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davidbfpo
06-26-2013, 02:25 PM
Has the exodus from Afghanistan begun? We know for example ANA SF have a 20% attrition rate per year, so a 95% refusal by diplomats to return to Kabul is, well, of note!


A total of 105 Afghan diplomats were meant to report for duty at the Foreign Ministry in Kabul on Saturday. They were being rotated out of their foreign postings as scheduled, and it was time to return to headquarters. Yet just five of them have resurfaced..... staff members have said they would apply for asylum in their respective host countries or at least apply for an extension of their service until the presidential election in spring 2014....Many Afghan diplomats are the sons and daughters of high-ranking politicians..

Link:http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/diplomats-defect-as-western-withdrawal-from-afghanistan-nears-a-907601.html

In the same report a comment by a German NGO in Kabul:
In recent months some of our most qualified contacts have left the country. The refugees are above all "the highly educated, who were much more optimistic about the future a year ago".... Government ministers, lawmakers and senior military officials are also attempting to get their families out of the country.

The best comment is the last, by a Presidential official on the West's optimism:
This story has just one catch: Most Afghans don't believe it.

omarali50
06-26-2013, 03:09 PM
well, one of the reasons they dont believe it is because the US itself does not believe it and has made it abundantly clear that they dont believe it.
But that does not mean the Taliban will just roll in. Factions will fight. Others have grown powerful too...

omarali50
06-26-2013, 04:24 PM
In fact, I still believe that the current Afghan state (as set up by NATO) CAN survive. NATO's own loss of confidence notwithstanding.
This state is the best hope for stability in the region. IF Pakistan can be convinced to help out and NATO agrees to continue support and a hundred other things go right, there can be a better future for the entire region.
The alternative will not necessarily be horrible for the US (mostly a propaganda loss). But it will be horrendous for the people of the region.
http://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2011/10/what-if-we-win.html

jcustis
06-27-2013, 04:07 AM
How could we possible convince Pakistan to help? And what sort of help is needed?