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OUTLAW 09
01-15-2017, 05:54 PM
Carter Page Dec '16 Moscow visit & Zvezda TV breaking news on US lifting Russian sanctions is play-book confirmation of Caribbean Crisis.

OUTLAW 09
01-15-2017, 06:19 PM
Russian TV's Kiselev likens the US intelligence report on alleged Russian hacking to "a mouse excreting something, it's pathetic"

OUTLAW 09
01-15-2017, 06:22 PM
Kiselev on Obama's presidency: "a disgrace...destructive...bloody... catastrophic". Kiselev on Trump: "plain-talking...a man of his word".

On Russian TV Kiselev's take is mirror image of Western media: portrays Obama admin as immoral/corrupt, Trump as upstanding/victim of "lies"

Tonight Russian state TV anchor Dmitry Kiselev quoted a UK newspaper article. But left a bit out.

OUTLAW 09
01-15-2017, 06:34 PM
Kremlin spokesman about #Trump meeting with #Putin:
"The sooner, the better."

Chris Wallace asks Pence if he can deny any contact between Trump associates & Russian operatives re: hacking of Dems. Pence deflects twice.

Chris Wallace gets a direct answer from @mike_pence re: communication b/t Trump campaign/Russians.

PENCE: "Of course not."

OUTLAW 09
01-15-2017, 06:43 PM
Interesting Trump project....on the social media open source analysis side...

Big new project: TrumpWorld, a vast dataset of people & firms around Trump. Help us build it out!
https://www.buzzfeed.com/johntemplon/help-us-map-trumpworld#

BuzzFeed News spent two months mapping Trump's personal and business connections — and found more than 1,500 in all and adding more each day...

WHAT would be extremely interesting would be to feed all of this data into a network analysis tool called Palantir........currently in heavy use as a threat finance tool for chasing jihadi money globally.....


Identify novel patterns of fraud by intuitively analyzing data at massive scale
Palantir Anti-Fraud allows human experts to look across their entire universe of data to find novel patterns of suspicious activity. Investigators at commercial enterprises have the contextual knowledge to know where to look for unique strains of fraud, such as money laundering, check kiting, or complex, synthetic identity fraud across lines of business. Tax authorities have the experience and domain expertise to develop hypotheses about new forms of tax fraud, illegal transfer pricing, and other forms of tax evasion. Palantir Anti-Fraud’s extensible analytical applications enable these domain experts to interact with the data in ways explicitly designed for fighting fraud. With transactions, weblogs, network traffic, and other dense, low-signal, disparate data from across the enterprise fused into a coherent object model, analysts can ask questions in the language of entities, events, and relationships, not data primitives.

Might in fact surprise Trump and his transition team what the Russian connections are....

OUTLAW 09
01-15-2017, 06:49 PM
Trump spokesperson Spicer stated the UK article about Trump meeting Putin was 100% lies....

BUT WAIT.....now comes Russian state TV media and their comments....

Interesting, since #Russia's state-sponsored TV says #Trump & #Putin are getting ready for a meeting.
@FoxNews @seanspicer @realDonaldTrump

Russian TV on Putin/Trump meeting: "Preparations already began...global problems so serious it's unlikely meeting will be delayed for long"

OUTLAW 09
01-15-2017, 07:08 PM
David Frum
Verified account
‏@davidfrum
“... the most subversive figure ever elected to high public office in a major free country.” -Charles Moore on Trump

It would be a terrible mistake to underestimate the dangers of Donald Trump's Russophilia#
Charles Moore

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/14/would-terrible-mistake-underestimate-dangers-donald-trumps-russophilia/

OUTLAW 09
01-15-2017, 07:15 PM
Kellyanne Conway: Details of Russia investigation should be kept secret ‘to protect the public’
http://ow.ly/5REr3081dSh

Because maybe the truth might be to unsettling to realize an elected US President might in fact be a traitor under US Criminal Code

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

BUT WAIT...Conway is totally wrong...normally a classified document is not intended to "protect the public"...BUT to protect sources and methods...


Donald Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway on Sunday expressed disappointment that intelligence officials and lawmakers are leaking information on the Russian hacking of the election to help the president-elect and insisted it should be kept secret to “protect the public.”
Appearing on Fox & Friends, Conway was asked by co-host Clayton Morris about Trump’s planned meeting with embattled FBI Director James Comey, only to have Conway lash out at leaks coming from U.S. intelligence agencies.
“I’m always disappointed how public and sometimes political some of these figures can seem to be,” she responded. “I’m very concerned, very concerned. You realize it is the Trump team, only us at this time, that is not divulging what occurred in a classified briefing.”
“Ladies and gentlemen,” she continued with her voice rising. “It’s called a classified briefing for a reason. You had the vice president of the United States making a comment about it the other day. You have intelligence officials confirming or denying. This classified information, it’s top secret. Why is it top secret? It’s not top secret to keep it from the public, but to protect the public.”

OUTLAW 09
01-15-2017, 07:29 PM
CIA director: "What I do find outrageous is [president-elect] equating intelligence community w/ Nazi Germany."

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 05:18 AM
NOT exactly sure WHY Trump does not understand the Chinese language......

They are getting a tad more direct with him YET he cruises along as if he does not get the not so subtle warnings....

Beijing will 'take off the gloves', if Trump continues on Taiwan- China Daily
http://reut.rs/2jmZApa

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 05:25 AM
ANOTHER perfect example of exactly WHY Trump is now dangerous for both NATO and the US.....

This depicts just how poorly informed he is and or the poor quality of advice he is getting....

NATO not fighting terror.....ASK how many NATO soldiers and civilians have been killed and wounded helping the US in both Iraq and AFG....AND how many NATO aircraft are flying over Iraq and Syria....

OR which NATO countries are providing SOF troops into Iraq...Syria...and AFG....

Trump says NATO is obsolete but still 'very important to me'


U.S. President-elect Donald Trump said NATO was obsolete because it had not defended against terror attacks, but that the military alliance was still very important to him, The Times of London reported.
“I took such heat, when I said NATO was obsolete," Trump told the newspaper in an interview. "It’s obsolete because it wasn’t taking care of terror. I took a lot of heat for two days. And then they started saying Trump is right."
Trump added that many NATO members were not paying their fair share for U.S. protection.
“A lot of these countries aren’t paying what they’re supposed to be paying, which I think is very unfair to the United States," Trump said. "With that being said, NATO is very important to me. There’s five countries that are paying what they’re supposed to. Five. It’s not much."

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 05:38 AM
BBC News - Donald Trump says Merkel made 'catastrophic mistake' on migrants
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38632485#

WHY does Trump think he can determine what is right and or wrong with Merkel and Germany WHEN he himself stands under strong suspicion of being compromised by Russia...

NOTE...there are a number of comments here that in fact prove what the US EU Ambassador recently stated when he assumed Trump wants to destroy EU......

1. Smart decision for UK...does not kick in until 2020 if UK pulls the article 50 trigger and right now UK politics around Brexit is in chaos to say the least

2. US/UK trade deals...APPEARS both Trump and UK does not realize that NO EU member can do separate trade deals without EU approval..UK is the earliest able to do this is 2021-2022....before leads to massive fines placed on UK by EU which UK must pay

3. WHY does Trump feel that what Merkel does can be critiqued BUT what he says and tweets he gets anagry when one disagrees with him

4. Have already commented on NATO is obsolete because it does not fight terror?????

5..He creates a number of lies with his Tweets and YET does not seem to realize this....

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 05:46 AM
Interesting that Trump wants to trade nuclear weapons reductions for lifting of sanctions....SO Putin will state in the public he will reduce....THEN Trump will automatically lift sanctions WITHOUT a clear and verifiable reduction treaty in place....

WHY will he do that...because he wants the immediate gratification of success WITHOUT the hard diplomatic treaty work...AND because he has promised via his advisor in their Russian contacts he will lift all sanctions....

Trump Slams NATO, Floats Russia Nuke Deal in European Interview
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-15/trump-calls-nato-obsolete-and-dismisses-eu-in-german-interview#

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 05:52 AM
TRUMP threatens German auto manufacturers...with 35% tariffs on their cars exported into the US.....

THIS is another perfect example of what will not work....the last time I checked German manufacturers adhere to WTO and EU export regulations and tariffs AND are already producing cars in the US...

TRUMP with this move might in fact trigger a massive trade war with EU THAT his agricultural voters might not appreciate.....A large amount of US trade with EU is in fact agricultural in nature and EU can and would slap a 35% equally tariff on US exports...THUS hurting again WU workers...AND then try to sell US beef ...chicken and grain somehow else in competition with Ukraine and EU producers who produce at a far lower cost range than the US....

THEN Germany would march to WTO and file a court case which they will win automatically as the 355 violated even WTO regs...AND with heavy fines on the US....

SO I am not so sure Trump fully and completely understands world trade and trade regualtions/agreements.....

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 05:56 AM
Worrying: sanctions on #Russia for invading #Ukraine wd be lifted w/o Ru withdrawal, in return for nuclear arms deal that US doesn't need?

MORE prove what the current CIA director stated yesterday...Trump does not fully understand Russian actions and capabilities...Georgia.....Moldaiva....Crimea...ea stern Ukraine....Syria....

The Times of London

@thetimes
"We should be ready to trust Putin", says @realDonaldTrump in his first UK #interview as president-elect
http://thetim.es/2jmjjFB

Trust Putin to do what..ever Russian ceasefire has been violated immediately by Russia and that is why we should trust him....

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 05:57 AM
Michael McFaul

@McFaul
Merkel has been America's most important ally for many years. Putin has not.

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 06:02 AM
Report: CIA set up task-force in 2016 to investigate possible Russian funding of Trump's campaign
http://read.bi/2iTFlvI

BUT WAIT...Trump states no contact with anyone and anything in Russia and no money from Russia...REALLY......???

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 07:00 AM
Let us see just what this Trump knows abut international trade these days...not much actually and why should he..he dealth largely with licensing name deals and real estate and money laundering along the way....

"there are more German cars on US roads than US cars in Germany..that has to end....."

BUT WAIT if we use the Trump motto of producing German cars in the US...THEN EU could equally demand US produce cars inside EU or face a 35% tariff.....

All is fair in love and trade these days......

Secondly...Trump is no thinking through that there are already US auto companies in Europe....Ford....Fiat/C....GM.....producing cars for Europe and contributing to the overall profit margins of those US companies....the problem for them is how to bring back their profits with virtually no US taxes....OH forgot Trump has a plan for that....and it will cost the US taxpayer as the last time under Obama that US companies were allowed to bring back their overseas profits estimated in the 1.5T USD range...it all went towards stock buybacks and shareholder value in the form of dividends of Class A shares....

RIGHT now one of the main problems with US car sales in Europe is the US pricing of those export vehicles...you can get a quality VW/MB/BMW at a lower price than the equal US model....WHY is that..US manufacturers want to make a killing on each vehicle as they cannot mass export a particular model and must potentially build a factory in EU in order to do that.

BTW...Trump seems to forget that US produced cars and exported to EU do not reach EU safely standards and must be altered at the import harbor before entering legally into EU...adding more to the vehicle price.....same requirements for Japanese and or Korean produced vehicles BTW...

AND oh by the way...all those German cars on US roads were largely produced inside the US..why the same problem US cars coming into Germany...Germans have coming into the US adding additional cost to a vehicle....example....US headlight standards have not changed for over 75 years and EU light technologies are now world class and yet cannot be sent into the US ....or let's look at bumper safety differences between EU/US....

BUT WAIT...Trump knows this already as he is "smart"....

SO is Trump going to tell US auto companies to export cheaper????

US auto companies are in the profit business not loss business....

WHAT Trump in his "down on EU comments in the interview" also forgets in international trade is the simple fact that the EU market is 800Mstrong vs the US market of 300M...add in the association and say CETA then the EU trading zone has over 1.2B consumers AND Trump wants to do a trade war with who again...1.2B consumers?????

Trump is also against the TTP trade deal...but by not holding to it...Trump literally allows china to dominate the Asian markets by setting product standards...financial standard s and trades services.....AND the US is on the outside looking in...

AND that makes sense in Trump's calculations of expanding US jobs and exports.....???

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 07:16 AM
Trump getting into his DEFLECTION...DISTORTION propaganda mode again with twitter....

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 11h
11 hours ago

Thank you to Bob Woodward who said, "That is a garbage document...it never should have been presented...Trump's right to be upset (angry)...

BUT WAIT....that is not what many European intel types are now saying and that is the reason the CIA has setup a project to check Russian money flows to Trump....

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 11h
11 hours ago

about that...Those Intelligence chiefs made a mistake here, & when people make mistakes, they should APOLOGIZE." Media should also apologize

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 8h
8 hours ago

.@NBCNews is bad but Saturday Night Live is the worst of NBC. Not funny, cast is terrible, always a complete hit job. Really bad television!

COMMENT:...Trump and his advisors have never trusted US MSM journalism and is trying hard to discredit US MSM....

I had posted a research project on statements taken from Trump rallies..Trumps own comments and Trump tweets as to where he gets his information and it is definitely not US MSM...mainly Brietbart.com...Infowars...and above all FOX...

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 07:18 AM
Trump getting into his DEFLECTION...DISTORTION propaganda mode again with twitter....

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 11h
11 hours ago

Thank you to Bob Woodward who said, "That is a garbage document...it never should have been presented...Trump's right to be upset (angry)...

BUT WAIT....that is not what many European intel types are now saying and that is the reason the CIA has setup a project to check Russian money flows to Trump....

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 11h
11 hours ago

about that...Those Intelligence chiefs made a mistake here, & when people make mistakes, they should APOLOGIZE." Media should also apologize

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 8h
8 hours ago

.@NBCNews is bad but Saturday Night Live is the worst of NBC. Not funny, cast is terrible, always a complete hit job. Really bad television!

COMMENT:...Trump and his advisors have never trusted US MSM journalism and is trying hard to discredit US MSM....

I had posted a research project on statements taken from Trump rallies..Trumps own comments and Trump tweets as to where he gets his information and it is definitely not US MSM...mainly Brietbart.com...Infowars...and above all FOX...

You would think the of all people Woodward with "deep throat" would be saying something else in the face of comments coming out of Europe about the article by Steele....

But Woodward sold out long ago to the Republican Party...

IF Woodward cannot see the Trump similarities to Nixon then Woodward has a major problem....

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 07:34 AM
Trump predicts breakup of EU, says Europeans will need visas, and offers Russia a deal to lift sanctions. Also attacks Merkel.

AGAIN trump does not know international relations..foreign policy nor international trade....

Requiring EU citizens to have visas to enter the US would be immediately answered by requiring US citizens to have EU visas for all countries visited...WHY the EU grants a US citizen up to 90 days visa free and then that was followed by US side....IF Us removes then EU removes....

Try to convince an American businessman doing export business in say Holland ...then onto Belgium and finally landing in Germany for his return trip he will need THREE separate visas all coupled with visa fees....

AND then ask him if he is going to vote for Trump the next time around????

BY THE WAY...I had posted to this thread that the outgoing US EU ambassador stated that the Trump transition team was sending him questions concerning who was leaving the EU and how long could the EU survive...ALL questions indicated to him that the Trump transition team had a great interest in the EU failing.....

WHY Trump dislike the second largest trading block and he feels it is anti US focused....

Someone needs to point out to Trump that up through the mid to late 70s 96% of all US consumer needs were met by Made in the US...THEN the US suffered a number of recessions and job loses and then the Us turned to export focused business and suddenly jobs were created and now the US exports well these days....

WHY did that occur...because the US consumer just as EU consumers are...totally focused on price and without exports US products were simply to expensive and not well made...make things again in the US and the common man who voted for Trump will see an increase in their cost of living above what they earn in pay raises....that is the effect of global trade these days...

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 07:47 AM
Trump's comments that he trusts Merkel & Putin both equally & that NATO is "obsolete" should alarm everyone in Europe. This is a big deal.

Trump wants to lift Russia sanctions in exchange for nuclear reductions. Muddled thinking. Sanctions are over aggression against Ukraine.

Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg zum #Trump-Interview: „Er scheint von der @NATO nicht viel Ahnung zu haben.“

Well at least Putin has his own personal biker gang so why not Trump....
What planet is this? Trump's inauguration will be protected by a biker "Wall of Meat". OK, I'm officially afraid.

This is prior restraint of free speech. FoxNews spreads propaganda of 200k strong Bikers 4 Trump to suppress Inauguration protest.

WTH country am I in?? BIKERS 4 TRUMP will "prevent protests" at Inauguration & take part in "1/2time show":https://twitter.com/Deplorable_Left/status/820814108119285760/video/1


Wonder if Trump knows about this...common event for many rich Russians who voice anti American/EU/NATO/Germany statements but then shop in EU....

Pro-Putin firebrand MP @Alexey_Pushkov who daily lambasts Europe and decadent West on Twitter spotted shopping in Spain because of course it is cheaper and better than in Russia...and he uses black money

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 07:52 AM
Strong German and EU comments coming out of Europe after Trump interview...

.@ischinger
„Donald Trump hat die EU bisher überhaupt nicht verstanden.“
Auch zu Trumps Einschätzungen zur NATO und Russland starke Kritik.

1. Trump does not understand EU
2. Trump estimate of NATO and Russia are totally wrong....

IF the Russian controllers of Trump want the destruction of EU and NATO...Trump is the way forward....and there is no Russian connections????

APPEARS he ignored the CIA Directors' comments yesterday aimed straight at him....

European integration is profoundly in the interest of the peace and prosperity of all European nations. If it doesn't suit Trump, so be it.

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 07:56 AM
APPEARS Trump is now channeling Sanders and the European health insurance model...of single payer and state determining medicine prices...

BTW..WHAT many demanded during the ACA/Obamacare debate which the Republicans rejected...

Trump vows 'insurance for everybody' in replacing Obamacare
http://reut.rs/2jngO5R

BUT in the end the average Trump voter will end up paying far more than currently paying...for less coverage and less quality care...

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 08:02 AM
This is what happens when intel chief tells @realDonaldTrump something he doesn't want to hear. He doesn't listen; just shoots the messenger

Trump is now officially at war with the entire US Intelligence Community...a war he cannot possibly win and it will be one of a death by a thousand cuts as they sit on information over his last 30 years of Russian activities and his money laundering days with his casino's....and they will leak it...

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 8h
8 hours ago

.@FoxNews "Outgoing CIA Chief, John Brennan, blasts Pres-Elect Trump on Russia threat. Does not fully understand." Oh really, couldn't do...

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 8h
8 hours ago

much worse - just look at Syria (red line), Crimea, Ukraine and the build-up of Russian nukes. Not good! Was this the leaker of Fake News?

Trump is a great user of the Russian propaganda SIX Ds.....which are being used here.....DEFLECT...DISMISS....DISTORT...

Azor
01-16-2017, 08:05 AM
From Post 483 by Outlaw09 in part:

Yes Mr Steele is a British national, who served in MI6 / SIS, an intelligence agency that like the other British agencies has exceptionally close links to it's American "cousins" (although GCHQ is reportedly even closer to the NSA it's "cousin"). Could his loyalties and networking in the private sector serve more than one paymaster and other "interested parties"? Yes, quite clearly.

Secondly until July 2015 the FT newspaper and other electronic options were owned by the UK-based Pearson Group, but it was then sold to Nikkei, a Japanese media company. A compnay that has a mixed reputation according to this, almost funny now, Russian author:https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-07-24/why-the-financial-times-has-a-new-owner

Pearson Group also sold its 50% share in The Economist to the Agnelli family, from Italy where their interests include Fiat. The Pearson Group has largely UK-based corporate owners.

It is a moot point if in 2017 the FT reflects a distinct British flavour, let alone reports in the UK's national interest. More likely the international corporate financiers IMHO.

From Post 485 by Outlaow09 cited in part:

That is quite simply "spin" and may originate from within the agencies or Whitehall-Westminster. There is IMHO the widely held belief that any spy (HUMINT source), would not, except when jointly run, reveal the true identity of a spy anywhere. The information reports gained, well that is quite different and we know that sometimes the "jigsaw" can be assembled to identify a spy.

David, isn’t it rather curious that a Russian intelligence operation to insert a Russian agent into the heart of American politics and even the White House, which began 5-8 years ago, and which is so secret and so sensitive that it is controlled directly from the Putin’s PA rather than the SVR or GRU, was revealed to various Russian businessmen and then to a former SIS officer? How is it that the tentacles of this elaborate plot are all to be found by way of open-source intelligence?

Does it not surprise you to learn that the SIS has outstanding human intelligence in Russia, in marked contrast to SIS penetration during the Cold War?

Does it also not surprise you that this network of British agents was unable to alert London about Russian intentions regarding Georgia, Ukraine and Syria?

Given that Mr. Steele’s agents include senior FSB officers and members of the PA, would the process of elimination – pliers plus blowtorch plus bullet – be very difficult for Putin?

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 08:05 AM
This is what happens when intel chief tells @realDonaldTrump something he doesn't want to hear. He doesn't listen; just shoots the messenger

Trump is now officially at war with the entire US Intelligence Community...a war he cannot possibly win and it will be one of a death by a thousand cuts as they sit on information over his last 30 years of Russian activities and his money laundering days with his casino's....and they will leak it...

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 8h
8 hours ago

.@FoxNews "Outgoing CIA Chief, John Brennan, blasts Pres-Elect Trump on Russia threat. Does not fully understand." Oh really, couldn't do...

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 8h
8 hours ago

much worse - just look at Syria (red line), Crimea, Ukraine and the build-up of Russian nukes. Not good! Was this the leaker of Fake News?

Trump is a great user of the Russian propaganda SIX Ds.....which are being used here.....DEFLECT...DISMISS....DISTORT...

Does Trump really think Dir CIA had the power to unilaterally decide US policy on Syria, Ukraine or could've reduced Russian arsenal!?

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 08:08 AM
PEOTUS @realDonaldTrump tells @KaiDiekmann that he would have preferred safe zones in Syria. Full interview @BILD:
http://m.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/ausland/donald-trump/das-grosse-bild-interview-49790140,la=de.bildMobile.html#…

Trump says Putin's intervention in Syria is very bad, US should have enforced red line back then, Aleppo was awful.

All the Putin and Assad fanboys who were cheering on Trump won't like this

Is Trump saying he would have bombed Syria after the August 21st 2013 attacks and stopped Russia's invasion of Ukraine?

Noting that Trump is more critical of Angela Merkel, the leader of a treaty ally, than he has ever been of Vladimir Putin.
#

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 08:12 AM
openDemocracy @openDemocracy
Kakistocracy is a term meaning a state or country run by the worst, least qualified, and most unscrupulous citizens.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/democraciaabierta/manuel-nunes-ramires-serrano/road-from-democracy-to-kakistocracy-and-back#

Azor
01-16-2017, 08:29 AM
I'm baaaackkkk ;)


Here is now Trump's problem...he has been largely delegitimized by the whole discussion around the Russian hacking…

Which has nothing to do with bitterness on the part of Clinton, her supporters and the Democrats in general, of course. Which has nothing to do with the interventionists in the military and intelligence communities who were champing at the bit to be set loose by Clinton.


AND now the Buzzfeed raw intel reports which are now being slowly seen to be more than accurate...even the sex tape/tapes are open for debate...

So you’re basically at the stage where affirmation will serve for confirmation. The sex tape was the core of the Dossier. The rest was filler that I had already read from various sources, you included.



Ex-MI6 agent's frustration as FBI sat on Trump file for months…NOW the actual question is WHY did the FBI not respond...exactly the question the DOJ Inspector General is asking actually AND Trump cannot block the DoJ IG investigation...

Again, you’re conflating investigations here. So what was Comey paid by the Russians then? What compromising materials do they have on him?

No comment on the AG’s meeting with Bubba? No comment on her interference in an ongoing FBI investigation? No comment on bipartisan support for Comey’s ethics until after the election?


Azor....as someone who has worked the dark side and HUMINT/HUMINTER sides Steele was sitting on solid reporting sources and that for a long while if he was pointing to this already...

More affirmations, like a woman's Facebook photo album or collection of fridge magnets.


1. the key to Steele and his abilities is who he handled as a field agent....and that is massive if you understand the individual poisoned on Putin's orders

3. you have to separate the sex from the rest of the 17 reports and the rest is the critical point....WHY....IMHO you cannot even begin to blackmail Trump with sex...sex tapes and or 500 women all claiming sexual assault...we saw just how elegant he moved around the 2005 video footage and then the outcry....he has built this image around sex and YES even his very own voters will tell you it is not an issue for them as he is this great businessman and sometimes they bend the rules/laws....that is why he cannot be blackmailed just with sex...BUT his financial empire built on Russian money is a totally different ballgame...

4. BUT tying him to Russian black money and or that his so called slef made great empire was on the back of money laundering WELL that is a totally different subject matter for Trump and he will fight like crazy to protect that image...WHICH BTW he is doing very well on...

And what intelligence did Litvinenko provide of material value? Obviously, it was only worth GBP 24,000 per year. He played politics with Berezovsky and got the sack, although his murder was atrocious. If that made Steele into a spymaster, then why did he leave the SIS?

Again, you are asserting financial linkages that the Dossier denies. You’re cherry-picking the allegations to suit a narrative that you have pushed throughout the entire election.


Azor...as always in HUMINT and Steele is no different "follow the money"...now tell me Steele was "wrong in his HUMINT reports"...he was as the Brits say..."spot on"...NO wonder he truly doubted the FBI when he was providing this much detail...

Yet I could have written that report with Google, my laptop and some whiskey to keep my mind lubricated. At face value the Dossier makes little sense.


Azor...NOW tell me the Trump interview yesterday and his comments concerning the lifting of sanctions DOES NOT tie into the above??????

Are you asking me to be shocked that people and firms will benefit from the lifting of sanctions? What of all of the firms in Europe clamoring for this? If anything, Trump’s remarks on sanctions have become more measured, with their lifting seeming increasingly conditional.


Brit Christopher Steele is an American hero: worked w/o pay, tried to get US to investigate Trump-Russia. But FBI was on crusade vs Clinton

WHY is that? ESPECIALLY when the FBI is tasked to defend the US from enemies near and far INSIDE the US...it must be impartial BUT the NYC FBI office is a known anti Clinton hot bed or activity when this all came from to begin with.....tied to a Giuliani who was in that center for a number of years and who first leaked that something was going to happen in the next few days but he did not say what it was...now we know...the question is who did he hear it from????

Again, so this is a “vast right-wing conspiracy” plus the FBI plus Russia? All to de-legitimize Trump and to distract from Clinton’s stunning loss. And the Russians benefit, because they want to sow division and to weaken the US government. Unfortunately, by buying into these smears and conspiracy theories, you are playing right into Putin’s hands. As usual, nothing to say about Galeotti’s view of Russian intentions because you disagree with it.

If you are the superior Kremlinogist, then why are you quoting amateurs from the mainstream media? Why quote at all, to be honest?

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 08:31 AM
I'm baaaackkkk ;)



Which has nothing to do with bitterness on the part of Clinton, her supporters and the Democrats in general, of course. Which has nothing to do with the interventionists in the military and intelligence communities who were champing at the bit to be set loose by Clinton.



So you’re basically at the stage where affirmation will serve for confirmation. The sex tape was the core of the Dossier. The rest was filler that I had already read from various sources, you included.




Again, you’re conflating investigations here. So what was Comey paid by the Russians then? What compromising materials do they have on him?

No comment on the AG’s meeting with Bubba? No comment on her interference in an ongoing FBI investigation? No comment on bipartisan support for Comey’s ethics until after the election?



More affirmations, like a woman's Facebook photo album or collection of fridge magnets.



And what intelligence did Litvinenko provide of material value? Obviously, it was only worth GBP 24,000 per year. He played politics with Berezovsky and got the sack, although his murder was atrocious. If that made Steele into a spymaster, then why did he leave the SIS?

Again, you are asserting financial linkages that the Dossier denies. You’re cherry-picking the allegations to suit a narrative that you have pushed throughout the entire election.



Yet I could have written that report with Google, my laptop and some whiskey to keep my mind lubricated. At face value the Dossier makes little sense.



Are you asking me to be shocked that people and firms will benefit from the lifting of sanctions? What of all of the firms in Europe clamoring for this? If anything, Trump’s remarks on sanctions have become more measured, with their lifting seeming increasingly conditional.



Again, so this is a “vast right-wing conspiracy” plus the FBI plus Russia? All to de-legitimize Trump and to distract from Clinton’s stunning loss. And the Russians benefit, because they want to sow division and to weaken the US government. Unfortunately, by buying into these smears and conspiracy theories, you are playing right into Putin’s hands. As usual, nothing to say about Galeotti’s view of Russian intentions because you disagree with it.

If you are the superior Kremlinogist, then why are you quoting amateurs from the mainstream media? Why quote at all, to be honest?

What is good for the goose is not via Trump and his transition team good for the gander is it????


A top aide to President-elect Donald Trump urged President Obama on Sunday to tell fellow Democrats to stop questioning Trump’s legitimacy — and rejected comparisons to Trump’s own well-publicized doubts about#Obama’s eligibility to serve.
The remarks from incoming White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus came after a prominent lawmaker and civil rights activist, Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), said Trump was not a “legitimate president” and more than a dozen fellow Democratic lawmakers announced that they would not attend Trump’s inauguration.
Speaking on ABC’s “This Week,” Priebus#acknowledged Lewis’s “historic contribution to civil rights and voting rights” but said his doubts about Trump’s legitimacy#are#“insanity” and “incredibly disappointing.”
“I think President Obama should step up,” he said,#praising the cooperation from the White House#on other transition issues. “I think the administration can do a lot of good by telling folks that are on the Republican side of the aisle: Look, we may have lost the election on the Democratic side, but it’s time to come together.”
Vice President-elect Mike Pence separately criticized Lewis on Sunday for questioning Trump’s legitimacy in interviews on Fox and CBS, calling his remarks “deeply disappointing.” He also defended Trump’s recent tweets attacking Lewis, saying Trump “has the right to defend himself.”
“I truly do believe this is a time when the American people should be celebrating the peaceful transition of power,” Pence said in a “Fox News Sunday” interview. “I hope that John Lewis, and some others who have joined his plans to take a pass on the inauguration, will rethink that.”
Many Democrats have bristled at the GOP calls to quietly accept Trump’s presidency, pointing to the president-elect’s prominent role in promoting the false “birther” movement to question whether Obama was born in the United States. Trump refused to unequivocally accept Obama’s status as a natural-born#U.S. citizen until September — less than two months before Election Day — and#has never apologized for his role in spreading doubts.
“What [Democrats]#are right about is to talk about the racist past of Donald Trump,” Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Sunday, also on ABC. “We all remember that Trump was one of the leaders of so-called ‘birther’ movement trying to delegitimize the presidency of our first African#American#president, Barack Obama, which is an outrage.”
Priebus said Sunday that questions about Obama’s birth have “been resolved for at least two years in Donald Trump’s mind” and drew a distinction between questioning Obama’s citizenship and accepting the results of the elections that he won.
“This Week” host George Stephanopoulos corrected Priebus, noting that Trump continued to raise questions about Obama’s eligibility to serve#well into his own presidential campaign.
The Daily 202 newsletter
“But look, George, that’s not the point,” he replied. “The point is not where Barack Obama was born. The point is is that we’ve got congressmen on the Democratic side of the aisle that are questioning the legitimacy of President-elect Trump, who won in an electoral landslide. That’s the issue. That’s where the outrage should be, not old news, but the fact that we are preparing for the transfer of power and we have been working with President Obama hand in glove. And I think that they, including the president, should step up and get his people in line and tell them to grow up and accept the fact that they lost the election.”
Denis McDonough, Obama’s chief of staff, noted in a CNN interview Sunday that Obama called Trump the “freely elected” president in his farewell speech Tuesday; McDonough used that terminology several times to refer to Trump.
“He called him the freely elected president of the United States, so that’s the charge that we have taken,” he said. “By the same token, these Democrats and others have pointed out that they have got significant concerns. … The intelligence shows that the Russians did intervene. They did intervene with the purpose of helping one candidate and hurting the other. So these are by no means trivial concerns.”
Asked about the birther movement by CNN host Jake Tapper, McDonough said Obama is “not going to get in the middle of this right now.”
“The president has made very clear that he believes that [Trump]#is the freely elected president,” he said. “He will be inaugurated on Friday. And he will come into office hopefully strengthened by the kind of transition that we have tried to run in this White House.”

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 08:40 AM
I'm baaaackkkk ;)



Which has nothing to do with bitterness on the part of Clinton, her supporters and the Democrats in general, of course. Which has nothing to do with the interventionists in the military and intelligence communities who were champing at the bit to be set loose by Clinton.



So you’re basically at the stage where affirmation will serve for confirmation. The sex tape was the core of the Dossier. The rest was filler that I had already read from various sources, you included.




Again, you’re conflating investigations here. So what was Comey paid by the Russians then? What compromising materials do they have on him?

No comment on the AG’s meeting with Bubba? No comment on her interference in an ongoing FBI investigation? No comment on bipartisan support for Comey’s ethics until after the election?



More affirmations, like a woman's Facebook photo album or collection of fridge magnets.



And what intelligence did Litvinenko provide of material value? Obviously, it was only worth GBP 24,000 per year. He played politics with Berezovsky and got the sack, although his murder was atrocious. If that made Steele into a spymaster, then why did he leave the SIS?

Again, you are asserting financial linkages that the Dossier denies. You’re cherry-picking the allegations to suit a narrative that you have pushed throughout the entire election.



Yet I could have written that report with Google, my laptop and some whiskey to keep my mind lubricated. At face value the Dossier makes little sense.



Are you asking me to be shocked that people and firms will benefit from the lifting of sanctions? What of all of the firms in Europe clamoring for this? If anything, Trump’s remarks on sanctions have become more measured, with their lifting seeming increasingly conditional.



Again, so this is a “vast right-wing conspiracy” plus the FBI plus Russia? All to de-legitimize Trump and to distract from Clinton’s stunning loss. And the Russians benefit, because they want to sow division and to weaken the US government. Unfortunately, by buying into these smears and conspiracy theories, you are playing right into Putin’s hands. As usual, nothing to say about Galeotti’s view of Russian intentions because you disagree with it.

If you are the superior Kremlinogist, then why are you quoting amateurs from the mainstream media? Why quote at all, to be honest?

Azor...sat down this weekend with one of my best IT hacking research teams and we feed the all available open source social media articles....over 2000 names and over 400 Trump companies in both US/Russia/Europe/Asia and ME together with his estimated 80 or so Deleware LLCs and a large number of his real estate deals that are in the public domain....

INTO Palantir...the standard network link analysis tool used by JSOC...the CIA...DIA and the Treasury Department for chasing threat finance.....

Took roughly 18 hours but all was inputted just as they do in CIA..DIA and Treasury...

THEN let Palantir do it's thing in building the linkages and collating the events...places...individuals and countries...AND money flows...all open source by the way...

I am holding the final product and waiting to see what leaks in the coming weeks.....

The few plain civilian efforts at link analysis that I have previously posted here are headed in the correct direction...but without Palantir they have only scratched the surface....

The key to the entire Russian money flows and Trump are in the interconnections of two Trump companies based in Malta ...two Russian banks..also located there and in Cyprus..and the SOHO real estate deal.........the SOHO deal is the cornerstone...

Therein lies the core Trump ties to Russian black money and there is indeed a linkage to be clearly seen...BUT that is the problem...when so much is out there and one is not able to use such a tool as Palantir then you miss it all.

BTW Palantir was R&D'd with start up funds from In-Q-tel a CIA start up fund for advanced/interesting technologies ....and is heavily used inside the government to chase threat finances and fraud.....

BTW once Palantir is fed then it searches the net for additional info...and a lot has not been yet revealed on Trump and his connections and monies.

We then fed those results into a very good visualization tool and it takes your breath away with the connections inside Russia ...banks and individuals....that have not been seen nor heard of before this....Steele had a great source BTW....the sex tape was just a distraction from the core info....

So I am awaiting the final leakage and then will publish it .......am afraid Trump will regret his calling and or equating US IC with Nazi Germany.....

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 10:50 AM
Azor...secondly we this weekend went through the metadata taken from the conversations between the email server in the Trump Tower and the email server in Alfa bank Moscow....

You do remember that set of servers that Trump and his team stated did not exist...well they did exist and along with them tons of metadata..that was the data we also worked through also this weekend.

REMEMBER the FBI did get one FISA warrant for this same data that Trump and company denied existed.....and it is being looked at as I write here.

I do know who was talking to whom and it is definitely inside the Trump transition team and we now know who was on the other end at Alfa Bank as we have seen his IP address in other locations inside and outside Russia....

We know the leak will come and are holding our research back until it occurs out of law safety sake.....

So when Trump states he and his team are not connected to Russia he is basically lying like a Persian rug.....

Also rumors exist that the NSA was also privy to the email server exchange.....as it crossed into the international internet thus open for monitoring..

So when you think Steele did not get it right.....sit back and wait it out....more to come....

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 10:51 AM
Putin spokesman gives Trump interview a thumbs-up: "NATO really is a relic, we agree with that."
https://ria.ru/world/20170116/1485770321.html#


BUT WAIT...Trump said nothing about Russian aggression in eastern Ukraine nor about their military annexation of Crimea did he.....

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 10:58 AM
Azor...this man is the main advisor to Trump and we expect something smart to come out of him and Trump....??

Uplifting reminder: the guy who approved this headline will soon be Chief Strategist to the most powerful man alive.

REMEMBER this is the Trump view of EU...also pushed by Bannon BTW.....
Trump : "EU is only there to harm American trade." (Interview Bild editor Diekmann).
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/medien/kai-diekmann-im-gespraech-trump-legt-gerade-eine-steile-lernkurve-hin-14658728-p2.html#

Trump desperately needs to go to night school and catch up with modern international trade and tariffs...we are not back in 1965...
The Economist

@TheEconomist
Donald Trump gravely underestimates the complexity of messing with tariffs
http://econ.st/2jVF67x

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 11:22 AM
Azor...here is a history lesson someone needs to conduct with Trump...Bannon and Flynn......

QUOTE
In interview, Trump says it's unfair that US buys Mercedes but Germany buys no Chevrolets.

GM purchased a German auto manufacturer in the early 30s using devalued dollars due to the depression....a company called Opel.....

GM then earned massive war time earnings for building trucks and cars for the German Wehrmacht during WW2 AND at the end of WW2....charged the US government for bombing damages to their factories which were making war equipment for the Nazi's.....

JUMP forward.....to the 2008 period and you will read about constant German union statements from the German union IG Metall that GM was draining out of Opel all the profits and not investing in new equipment and laying off workers.

THEN suddenly GM decided to build the Chevy Cruze and reduce production of all other German Opel models and further reductions of workers and attempting to sell off all the land and factories to increase the US profit line....

German unions forced the issue about the total lack of GM involvement outside of taking out profits to the detriment of German workers...and the German government stepped in and basically told GM to either repay all of their tax breaks and leave Germany or invest in the company.

GM not wanting to lose the EU market decided to invest...pulled in a new creative design team...came out with really well designed and KEY well produced quality wise cars and now are rolling again after basically all most crashing the company....

AND pulled the GM Chevy name back out of EU....

By The Way....check this book from 1950 written by US trust busters working during WW2 to break up German cartels.....I spent years trying to find a single copy as it disappeared from bookstores almost instantly when released. Found one in a used book store....

All Honorable Men: The Story of the Men on Both Sides of the Atlantic Who Successfully Thwarted Plans to Dismantle the Nazi Cartel System


A scathing attack on Wall Street’s illegal ties to Nazi Germany before WWII—and the postwar whitewashing of Nazi business leaders by the US government

https://www.amazon.com/All-Honorable-Men-Successfully-Dismantle-ebook/dp/B01DOU85YU


Prior to World War II, German industry was controlled by an elite group who had used their money and influence to help bring the Nazi Party to power. After the Allies had successfully occupied Germany and removed the Third Reich, the process of reconstructing the devastated nation’s economy began under supervision of the US government. James Stewart Martin, who had assisted the Allied forces in targeting key areas of German industry for aerial bombardment, returned to Germany as the director of the Division for Investigation of Cartels and External Assets in American Military Government, a position he held until 1947. Martin was to break up the industrial machine these cartels controlled and investigate their ties to Wall Street. What he discovered was shocking.

Many American corporations had done business with German corporations who helped fund the Nazi Party, despite knowing what their money was supporting. Effectively, Wall Street’s greed had led them to aid Hitler and hinder the Allied effort. Martin’s efforts at decartelization were unsuccessful though, largely due to hindrance from his superior officer, an investment banker in peacetime. In conclusion, he said, “We had not been stopped in Germany by German business. We had been stopped in Germany by American business.”

This exposé on economic warfare, Wall Street, and America’s military industrial complex includes a new introduction by Christopher Simpson, author of Blowback:America’s Recruitment of Nazis and Its Destructive Impact on Our Domestic and Foreign Policy, and a new foreword from investigative journalist Hank Albarelli.

davidbfpo
01-16-2017, 11:23 AM
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David, isn’t it rather curious that a Russian intelligence operation to insert a Russian agent into the heart of American politics and even the White House, which began 5-8 years ago, and which is so secret and so sensitive that it is controlled directly from the Putin’s PA rather than the SVR or GRU, was revealed to various Russian businessmen and then to a former SIS officer?

Yes, very curious and contrary to how HUMINT works. Unless one considers it is a very clever "smoke & mirrors" ploy to undermine Trump's credibility - which it certainly is for some.

Then there is the "old boys" network in Russia, with ex-KGB & GRU etc being in the "private" sector and mixing with their still-serving friends. I recall there was a big exodus after the USSR fell, but have many returned to state service? Or can we still talk about a separation of interests between the state, a private sector and business?


How is it that the tentacles of this elaborate plot are all to be found by way of open-source intelligence?Advocates of open source claim IIRC 90% of information is open. Notably Robert Steele. See:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_David_Steele

That aside. I have my doubts the tentacles have been discovered. Cash still has power and greed remains a powerful desire.


Does it not surprise you to learn that the SIS has outstanding human intelligence in Russia, in marked contrast to SIS penetration during the Cold War?SIS undoubtedly aspires to have HUMINT from Russia, I doubt anyone considers it has an 'outstanding' performance. I recall the success of the two best known SIS sources in the Cold War, Oleg Penkovsky (caught) and Oleg Gordievsky (escaped). The later it is stated was convinced by a briefcase of foreign cash; his account is different.

Now does SIS learn much from all the Russian wealthy exiles and resident who live in London, who continue to have links back home. The murder of Alexander Litvinenko, using polonium as a poison may fit in here.


Does it also not surprise you that this network of British agents was unable to alert London about Russian intentions regarding Georgia, Ukraine and Syria?[quote]

Gauging intentions has always been hard, even more so when decisions are made within a small circle, or even one person. I cannot recall the detail of each episode, but capabilities were either moved or upgraded beforehand - some of which was detected and warnings given.

[quote]Given that Mr. Steele’s agents include senior FSB officers and members of the PA, would the process of elimination – pliers plus blowtorch plus bullet – be very difficult for Putin?No, not very difficult I suspect. So that recent death in Moscow makes me wonder. Hardly time in Putin ruled Russia to have open criminal trials of traitors.

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 11:31 AM
UPDATE: Trump no longer to visit National African American Museum on MLK Day due to scheduling issues, transition officials tell

MAYBE because he tweeted to much and directly attacked a still living icon of the civil rights movement and MLK WHEN he Trump dodged the VN war draft FOUR times!!!!!! Trump dodged the draft FOUR times...Lewis went to jail 47 times fighting for civil/voting rights.....

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump Jan 14
Congressman John Lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district, which is in horrible shape and falling apart (not to......


Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump Jan 14
mention crime infested) rather than falsely complaining about the election results. All talk, talk, talk - no action or results. Sad!

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump Jan 14
Congressman John Lewis should finally focus on the burning and crime infested inner-cities of the U.S. I can use all the help I can get!

Trump realizes the photo ops of him in front of pictures of John Lewis would make his "no action" tweet look INCREDIBLY IGNORANT

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 11:45 AM
Azor....something for you....

.@realDonaldTrump invents fake news as he talks about fake news.

Ever truly notice Trump cannot carry a complete thought to the end..he gets sidetracked after 4 or 5 words and repeats things over and over ....

Trump has no earthly idea what "fake news" really is....
Episode number 116 of the StopFake project hosted by @PaulNiland - a must watch
#StopFakeNews #Russia #RuFakeNews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78uV3t9ORLU#

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 11:54 AM
Is this the usual word salad, or has he (been given a) pre-coordinated "detente" with Putin?

WHAT is extremely interesting Azor....is the comment that Russia is really hurting under the sanctions...THIS faces in the face of repeated Russian FM and Putin statements to the contrary....SO just how does Trump know it is "hurting".....

The actual US trade sanctions are not hurting Russia as the US trade with Russia is extremely low..the EU sanctions on the other hand are hurting and hurting badly....

SO WHY is he going to drop US sanctions for a nuclear deal when the bulk of the Russian sanctions are in place until JUN 2017/DEC 2017 BY EU and cannot be lifted by a US President.....?

BUT WHAT Trump is not saying is the US sanctions are on USD transfers from individuals/banks...that Russia has to flow over the NYC Federal Bank for clearing as all USDs must clear the US federal Banking system at some point....and this impacts greatly those oligarchs and Russian individuals who have been hit as well as those Russian banks named in the sanctions....

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 12:07 PM
Azor....something for you....

.@realDonaldTrump invents fake news as he talks about fake news.

Ever truly notice Trump cannot carry a complete thought to the end..he gets sidetracked after 4 or 5 words and repeats things over and over ....

Trump has no earthly idea what "fake news" really is....
Episode number 116 of the StopFake project hosted by @PaulNiland - a must watch
#StopFakeNews #Russia #RuFakeNews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78uV3t9ORLU#


Trump needs to have his very own fact checker sitting next to him.....

"I wasn't even there..got up and left" << Fact check: arrived in Moscow Nov 8.
This photo was taken Nov 11, 4 am

Azor....if he lies here he has lied in the past.....this is referencing the Hungarian model statements that you wiped away as fake.....NOTICE his witnesses are "rich people".....BUT not a single name does he name does he???

NOTICE he refers to Steele as an UK diplomat not a MI6 field agent speaking Russian and working in Moscow...


BTW...still have not seen that letter he is referring to here......

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 12:16 PM
Russian statement concerning their reduction of nuclear weapons in exchange for lifting of sanctions as so stated by Trump.......

Kremlin spokesman says reduction of nuclear arsenal not under discussion. Of course not: it's the cornerstone of Russia's national defense.

So just how does explain a possible meeting if no weapons reduction ...fighting IS...well Russia is not helping there at all in Syria....

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 12:17 PM
Schuble on Trump: Protectionism can afford short-term advantages but is almost always damaging in the long term.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/german-finance-minister-wolfgang-schauble-warns-trump-administration-on-free-trade-russia-1484565184?tesla=y

Trump sides with Le Pen, Wilders, Farage & seeks overthrow of European peace & security, according to Putin's wishes
https://www.ft.com/content/1f7c6746-db75-11e6-9d7c-be108f1c1dce

"Iran maintaining #Assad Regime is empowering al-Qaeda's narrative". Agree. #Iran (and #Russia) have made AQ stronger.
BUT WAIT...Trump thinks working with Assad and Putin will defeat AQ....

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 12:48 PM
AGAIN another example of the uninformed/uneducated Trump on NATO...BTW..UK has not fulfilled either their 2% and are actually still cutting their forces....

What an utterly sinister non sequitur.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/full-transcript-of-interview-with-donald-trump-5d39sr09d#…

PLEASE read this response and then tell me what he actually said...????

BTW...his number of NATO members is basically wrong.....

davidbfpo
01-16-2017, 01:13 PM
Some historical perspective by a British academic:https://theconversation.com/whether-or-not-trump-claims-are-true-russia-is-still-using-sex-for-spying-71293? (https://theconversation.com/whether-or-not-trump-claims-are-true-russia-is-still-using-sex-for-spying-71293?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20 for%20January%2013%202017%20-%206500&utm_content=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20f or%20January%2013%202017%20-%206500+CID_51b5aab451d7ee352e10ed88f7be611a&utm_source=campaign_monitor_uk&utm_term=Whether%20or%20not%20Trump%20claims%20are %20true%20Russia%20is%20still%20using%20sex%20for% 20spying)

Which ends with:
The claims in the dossier are lurid and unproven, but they draw on very real precedents.

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 01:26 PM
Casually threaten close US allies. That's the ticket to a successful presidency.

Can someone truly explain this to me....German auto manufacturers making cars in the US for US consumption and exporting up to 65% from the US.....if you think about it...next to Mexico the US is a cheap labor country....if 65% of a particular manufacturer is actually exported...does that improve the actual worker earnings not really as these plants ae non union and in lower cost of living states...usually the South....

BTW...the higher end cars produced by German companies inside the US cannot be largely afforded by many Americans to begin with thus being exported to areas who can afford them....BUT Trump does not see that small issue....

So by slapping a 35% tariff on German cars will lead to more and or less German investment into their US plants?

So German investments into Mexico are to be simply written off because a US President turns to being a bully and attempting to damage their brands and stock prices....sure.....

SO WHY did GM attempt to drive their plants in Germany straight into the ground due to poor management....poor quality and faulted designs????


U.S President-elect Donald Trump warned German car companies he would impose a border tax of 35 percent on vehicles imported to the U.S. market, a plan that drew sharp rebukes from Berlin and hit the automakers' shares.
In an interview with German newspaper Bild, published on Monday, Trump criticized German carmakers such as BMW (BMWG.DE), Daimler (DAIGn.DE) and Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE) for failing to produce more cars on U.S. soil.

"If you want to build cars in the world, then I wish you all the best. You can build cars for the United States, but for every car that comes to the USA, you will pay 35 percent tax," Trump said in remarks translated into German.

"I would tell BMW that if you are building a factory in Mexico and plan to sell cars to the USA, without a 35 percent tax, then you can forget that," Trump said.
At 1155 GMT (6:55 a.m. ET), BMW shares were down 2.2 percent, while Volkswagen's (VW) and Daimler's were both down 2 percent.

Under pressure to deliver on campaign promises to revive U.S. industrial jobs, Trump has turned his fire on carmakers that use low-cost Mexican plants to serve the U.S. market.

He has also warned Japan's Toyota (7203.T) it could be subject to a "big border tax" if it builds its Corolla cars for the U.S. market at a planned factory in Mexico.

All three German carmakers have invested heavily in Mexico, but also pointed out on Monday that they manufacturer in the United States as well.
BMW executive Peter Schwarzenbauer told reporters the company was sticking to plans to invest around $1 billion in a new plant in Mexico, which is due to go into production in 2019 and create at least 1,500 jobs.

SERIOUS WARNING
"The president's powers are considerable. He can legally impose tariffs of up to 15 percent for 150 days. Trump is not constrained by Congress," said Simon Evenett, professor of international trade at Switzerland's University of St Gallen.

"Even if foreign companies object and seek to challenge the legality of tariffs, it will take at least 18 months to get decided. Corporate strategies will be disrupted by then."

While investing in Mexico, German carmakers have quadrupled light vehicle production in the United States over the past seven years to 850,000 units, more than half of which are exported from there, Germany's VDA automotive industry association said.

"In the long term, the United States would be shooting itself in the foot by imposing tariffs or other trade barriers," VDA President Matthias Wissmann said in a statement.

German carmakers employ about 33,000 workers in the United States and German automotive suppliers about 77,000 more, the VDA said.

Speaking in tabloid newspaper Bild, German Economy Minister Sigmar Gabriel said that rather than trying to penalise German carmakers, the United States should instead respond by building better and more desirable cars.

Norbert Roettgen, head of Germany's foreign affairs committee, said Berlin needed to take Trump's comments seriously. "He seems to be absolutely focused on short-term job interests and security interests ... not that he is looking for free trade so much, but more for protection," he told Reuters.

MEXICAN PLANS
Daimler's Mercedes-Benz and BMW already have sizeable factories in the United States where they build higher-margin sports utility vehicles (SUVs) for export to Asia and Europe.

Around 65 percent of BMW's production from its factory in Spartanburg, South Carolina is exported overseas. BMW builds the X3, X4, X5 and X6 models in the United States.
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"It is surprising that Trump singles out the carmaker that exports more vehicles from the United States than any other manufacturer," Evercore ISI analysts said.

A BMW spokeswoman said the planned plant in the central Mexican city of San Luis Potosi would build the BMW 3 Series from 2019, with the output intended for the world market. The plant would be an addition to existing 3 Series production facilities in Germany and China.

In June last year, BMW broke ground on the plant, pledging to invest $2.2 billion in Mexico by 2019 for annual production of 150,000 cars.
Daimler has said it plans to begin assembling Mercedes-Benz vehicles in 2018 from a $1 billion facility shared with Renault-Nissan (RENA.PA) (7201.T) in Aguascalientes in Mexico. A spokesman for Daimler declined to comment on Trump's remarks.

Last year, VW's Audi division inaugurated a $1.3 billion production facility with 150,000 vehicle production capacity near Puebla, Mexico. Audi said it would build electric and petrol Q5 SUVs in Mexico.

Audi declined to comment on Monday. [B]VW also declined to comment on Chevrolet sales have fallen sharply in Europe since parent company General Motors (GM.N) in 2013 said it would drop the Chevrolet brand in Europe by the end of 2015. Since then, GM has focused instead on promoting its Opel and Vauxhall marques..

Trump called Germany a great car producer, saying Mercedes-Benz cars were a frequent sight in New York, but claimed there was not enough reciprocity. Germans were not buying Chevrolets at the same rate, he said, calling the business relationship an unfair one-way street.#

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 05:43 PM
Russian government spokesman says Russia agrees with U.S. President-elect Donald Trump that NATO is obsolete.

Let's spell this out: the United States President-elect is actively working to increase the risk of military escalation and war in Europe.

Not a partisan comment: no politician who has ever held a history book in their hands—Rep or Dem—should consider such behavior acceptable.

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 05:46 PM
SHOT:
http://observer.com/2017/01/trump-administration-monica-crowley-what-the-bleep-just-happened-harpercollins-plagiarism/ …

CHASER:


TOP foreign policy adviser Monica Crowley said Monday she will relinquish the senior job she’d been poised to take in the Trump White House.

Ms. Crowley, who had been tapped to be senior director of strategic communications at the National Security Council, had been dogged in recent weeks by questions about whether she lifted portions of her past written work from other writers. Her move seemed designed to keep that from becoming a distraction as the Trump team prepares to take office.

“After much reflection I have decided to remain in New York to pursue other opportunities and will not be taking a position in the incoming administration,” she said in a statement. “I greatly appreciate being asked to be part of President-elect Trump’s team and I will continue to enthusiastically support him and his agenda for American renewal.”

She was to have worked for National Security Adviser Michael T. Flynn, a retired Army lieutenant general.

“The NSC will miss the opportunity to have Monica Crowley as part of our team. We wish her all the best in her future,” Gen. Flynn said in a statement.

A report by CNN earlier this month found passages in Ms. Crowley’s 2012 book “What the (Bleep) Just Happened” closely tracked with others’ work. A separate story by Politico, a website for political insiders, said it found more than a dozen instances of what it deemed plagiarism or insufficient attribution in her 2000 dissertation.

HarperCollins, the publisher of the 2012 book, withdrew the digital version of the book from circulation last week amid the accusations.

Ms. Crowley was also formerly a columnist and online opinion editor for The Washington Times. Executive Editor Christopher Dolan said the paper would review her work, though no charges of plagiarism were lodged against her during her time at the paper.

Ms. Crowley was an assistant to former President Nixon from 1990 to 1994.

The job she was slated for in the White House is held in the current administration by Ben Rhodes, a speechwriter and long-time close adviser to President Obama. Mr. Rhodes was instrumental in brokering restoration of diplomatic relations with the Castro dictatorship in Cuba.

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 05:50 PM
GERMANY: Responding to Trump's comments that there are no Chevrolets in Germany, Vice Chancellor says the US should 'build better cars'

Painful because true

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 05:55 PM
Azor...here we go again...AND BTW he is front and center inside the Palantir link analysis.....

Former Putin aide, Mikhail Lesin found dead in a DC hotel room had a falling out with "Putin's banker" Yuri Kovalchuk

SMALL SIDE NOTE
Former Gen. Michael Flynn worked for Lesin at Russia Today.

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 05:59 PM
WikiLeaks Verifizierter Account
‏@wikileaks

NOTE: No present WikiLeaks staff, including our editor, have medical, psychological or drug conditions which could lead to sudden death.

APPEARS WLs is getting a tad concerned with so many sudden deaths around the Steel reports....

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 06:02 PM
Dear Allies: If you're confused since new SECDEF AND SoS strongly backs NATO but new POTUS does not, so are all Americans with an above-room-temp IQ

Hard to say how Trump's talking points on NATO, EU & Russia would be different if they were actually written by the Kremlin.

They'd be in Russian. Otherwise identical. As in verbatim.

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 06:28 PM
NOTICE the last paragraphs referencing Trump's election......

THE TIMES
Vladimir Putin’s murky plot to cleave Balkans from West

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...c9f5efd3fc4bc0

Quote:

In the ill-lit back room of an Orthodox church richly decorated with bone-white marble, a burly priest poured another shot of homemade brandy as he railed against attempts by the Montenegrin government to throw in its lot with the West.

“NATO is nothing but an occupying force,” said Momcilo Krivokapic, 71, dressed in black robes and with a large silver crucifix dangling at his chest.

Krivokapic, a senior cleric, is one of a colourful cast of characters who have turned his Mediterranean homeland into the flashpoint of a dangerous new Cold War that pits a resurgent Kremlin against a weakening West.

It has emerged that the multiple tentacles of Russian interference, which also includes a plot to overthrow the Montenegrin government — and to prevent the country’s planned accession to NATO next year — extended into Krivokapic’s church of St Nicholas in the port city of Kotor.

In a curious ceremony the priest, who sports a long white beard, gave his blessing to a shadowy Russian-backed paramilitary organisation, the Balkan Cossack Army, as members of President Vladimir Putin’s favourite motorcycle gang and a self-styled Russian “general” looked on.

Kotor’s deepwater port, which was built for large battleships and is coveted by the Kremlin and NATO, is one of the reasons this picturesque Mediterranean nation of just 620,000 people is at the centre of a tug of war between Russia and the West.

The Kremlin’s interest in the country is part of wider Russian muscle-flexing across southeastern Europe where it is sponsoring political parties, staging military manoeuvres and developing a mysterious “humanitarian” centre in Serbia that NATO suspects is a cover for espionage. In a further boost for the Kremlin, pro-Russian candidates won presi#dential elections last month in Moldova and Bulgaria.

Western concerns at the Kremlin’s activities in the Balkans, long seen as Europe’s weak underbelly, have been highlighted by a confidential report adopted by NATO last week that sounded the alarm about Russia’s “destabilising” activities in the region.

The report accuses Russia of forging ties with elites in targeted countries, supporting anti-Western groups and buying its way into the energy and media sectors. “As part of Russia’s effort to reassert itself on the world stage, there’s been an increase in activities in the western Balkans, including destabilising behaviour,” the report states.

NATO, it argues, should work with the EU to counter “Russian disinformation” and help Balkan nations increase their “resilience” to the Kremlin’s malign influence.

With just 2000 men under arms, Montenegro — the smallest of the six republics that once made up the socialist former Yugoslavia — will contribute little to NATO, many of whose members are under pressure from US president-elect Donald Trump to increase military spending to 2 per cent of their gross domestic product.

But the political and strategic significance of its accession — coupled with a parallel attempt to join the EU — is huge.

Montenegro is the only country on Europe’s Mediterranean coast outside NATO; a government source called it the “last piece” of “unclaimed real estate” left from Lisbon to the Syrian port of Latakia.

“The western Balkans could be Europe’s next conflict,” said Adam Thomson, until last month Britain’s ambassador to NATO and now director of the European Leadership Network, a think tank.

The importance to Russia of a friendly Mediterranean port became clear in October as its aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov struggled to find a berth to refuel en route from Russia to Syria.

It was against this background that the Balkan Cossack Army, made up of Russian paramilitaries and locals who fought in the Balkan civil wars of the 1990s and the present conflict in Ukraine, came to Krivokapic for a blessing.

The Night Wolves, a Russian motorcycle gang beloved of Putin, travelled almost 3000km from Moscow to attend the event, presided over by Viktor Zaplatin, a self-styled Russian general who fought in several murky conflicts instigated by the Kremlin.

He addressed the crowd in the name of Alexander Borodai, a suspected Russian war criminal targeted by international sanctions for his involvement in Ukraine.

Soon after the creation of the paramilitary outfit, which is now under investigation by authorities, Montenegro was shaken by claims of a Russian-backed plot to seize government institutions after parliamentary elections on October 16.

Two Russians, Eduard Shirokov and Vladimir Popov, who allegedly worked for GRU, Russia’s military intelligence, have been charged with plotting a coup.

Investigators claim the pair operated from Belgrade, capital of neighbouring Serbia, from where they are accused of masterminding a conspiracy to infiltrate fighters among Montenegrin police and security personnel on election night and cause bloodshed that would lead to a takeover by the pro-Russian opposition.

Their aim, it was alleged, was to capture or kill the then prime minister, Milo Djukanovic, who is credited with orchestrating Montenegro’s NATO application, and replace him with a Russian crony.

“We face an aggressive power which initiated this (plot) to stop the expansion of NATO,” thundered Djukanovic, who has since stepped down in favour of a close confidant, amid speculation he is contemplating a run for the presidency.

The Kremlin has warned Montenegro against joining the alliance but denies any involvement in the plot, which has led to the arrest of 20 people there and in Serbia.

Western officials, however, see the episode as a further sign of Putin’s determination to use a mixture of soft and hard power in Europe to weaken democratic governments and test Western resolve by expanding Moscow’s zone of influence.

A source in the Montenegrin cabinet claims the paramilitary groups and the attempted coup are part of an “unequivocal message” from the Kremlin that amounts to: “We are back and you belong to us.” The EU, he claims, has given up on integrating the Balkans because of concerns about migration, leaving a vacuum that Putin sees as an “open invitation”.

Montenegro’s prosecutors initially charged Aleksandar Sindjelic, a convicted criminal from Serbia who fought with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine, with leading the coup. He has since been declared a “protected witness” so he can testify against the Russians.

Sindjelic, who was deported from Serbia to Montenegro in dubious legal circumstances, told prosecutors of his links to the Russian defence ministry; he also recalled how the two Russian agents had hosted him in a luxury apartment in central Moscow and gave him €200,000 ($283,000) in cash to prepare logistics.

A cache of weapons was found in Serbia, from where the Russians operated, but Montenegro’s authorities failed to link it to the alleged coup. With no weapons yet found in Montenegro, prosecutors are being ridiculed by opposition and critics in the media who claim the plot was invented by Djukanovic.

The revelations have embarrassed Aleksandar Vucic, Serbia’s pro-Western Prime Minister, who is said to have known nothing about the plot, even though his secret service reportedly was aware of it.

Serbia, which maintains military neutrality but aspires to join the EU, has steered a pro-Western course since the fall of Slobodan Milosevic, its former leader and a staunch Moscow ally who died while on trial for war crimes in the conflicts that raged through the region in the 90s.

“The secret service monitored the Russians throughout their operation but Vucic was never told,” said a top Montenegrin government source who has been working with Serbian authorities. “When he found out he was furious … Serbia’s Prime Minister does not have his secret services under control.”

Asked about the plot during a visit to NATO headquarters in Brussels late last month, Vucic appeared to want to send a message to Russia. “Serbia will never be a stage for preparing criminal acts against other countries,” he said. During the visit Vucic sought help to combat the Kremlin’s “enormous pressure”, diplomats say.

Days after the story of the alleged coup attempt emerged, Nikolai Patrushev, secretary of Russia’s security council and a close aide of Putin, arrived on a sudden visit to Belgrade, offering an informal deal on security co-operation. Diplomats and local officials described the visit as “crisis management”.

NATO secretary-general Jens Stoltenberg has pledged not to accept “any interference” in Montenegro’s accession to NATO, which needs the ratification of all 28 member states.

“I welcome the open investigation both in Montenegro and Serbia related to the attempted … coup,” he said during Vucic’s visit last month, urging alliance members to speed up the ratification process.

NATO officials had hoped the process could be completed before Trump took office next month, but the US Senate failed to ratify it before its legislative session ended last week. Trump’s admiration for Putin has alarmed Western #officials but delighted pro-Russian activists in the Balkans.

“The election of Donald Trump was a blessing — as if God extended his hand over us,” said Krivokapic, voicing hopes the new president will strike a deal with Putin and abandon the Balkans to Russia.

Continued.....

WHY did the Republican controlled Senate fail to ratify.....??????

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 06:33 PM
The British spy behind the Trump dossier helped the FBI bust FIFA

By the foremost journalist covering the Russian security organs, @AndreiSoldatov
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/12/donald-trump-russia-dossier-frighteningly-true?CMP=share_btn_tw


The Kremlin has dismissed the stories about Donald Trump’s alleged dealings with Russia as “pulp fiction”. Even a superficial glance at the dossier on his relationship with Moscow supposedly compiled by a former M16 counter-intelligence officer and published by BuzzFeed reveals a confusion that raises questions about its credibility at the very least.
Donald Trump dossier: intelligence sources vouch for author's credibility
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For example, the FSB unit named as responsible for gathering material on Hillary Clinton – Department K – has nothing to do with eavesdropping or cyber investigations. It was, however, much in the Russian news recently because it was tasked with “supervising” the banking and financing system and its officers were involved in a major scandal that ended with an Interior Ministry official jumping out of a window during interrogation. There is another Department K in the Interior Ministry and it is this that is in charge of cyber investigations. The dossier names Igor Diveikin, a senior official in the political department of Putin’s office, as tasked to deal with the US election. He was indeed in charge of elections, but in Russia, not the US. Last October, a month before the US elections, he was moved to the apparatus of the state Duma.

Beyond the factual detail, there are problems too with the document’s analysis: as in a classic conspiracy, Putin’s decisions in 2016 to fire prominent officials, including the all-powerful Sergei Ivanov, a head of the presidential administration, are explained via the ups and downs of Russia’s interference in the American election.

But Putin had plenty of other reasons to start selective repressive acts against his elites – 2016 was also a year of the Duma elections and there is palpable anxiety in Moscow about the presidential elections in 2018. There are big questions too about the sources: high-placed Kremlin officials seem a little too keen to talk to a former British spy, and feed him damaging information about the most sensitive Kremlin operation in the 21st century – right in the middle of the operation.

Though many of the report’s elements appear hastily compiled, overall it reflects accurately the way decision-making in the Kremlin looks to close observers. There’s been much focus on the shakier elements but what is plausible about this episode? The leaked document paints a picture of groups of hackers all over the world hired to attack western targets. And that sounds about right. I have been covering the Russian secret services since 1999 and have spent the last five years researching Russian cyber activities. Outsourcing sensitive offensive operations is the Kremlin’s way to lower risk and create deniable responsibility. It was used in Crimea, Ukraine and Syria with Russian “volunteers” and private military companies, while in cyberspace it has been the Kremlin tactic since the mid-2000s.

The dossier suggests that Putin personally supervised the operation, with the Foreign Ministry playing only a minor role. This is exactly what has been observed since the annexation of Crimea – that the Foreign Ministry is no longer in charge of defining policy for Ukraine or Syria, so decision-making is likely to be more capricious. It also fits with the assessment of many experts that the hack of the US Democrats was prompted by the Panama Papers exposé, which was seen in the Kremlin as a personal attack on Putin.
Media and intelligence agencies attacked by Trump over Russia claims
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Finally, the dossier states that the Kremlin extensively borrowed its methods for dealing with Trump from the KGB playbook. For instance, it claims the Russian secret services were eager to collect dirt on Trump during his trips to Russia to explore whether a recruitment was feasible. The evidence is questionable, but the idea looks entirely plausible – after all, the KGB even had a special terminology for this kind of operation: it was called razvedka s territorii or “gathering intelligence from the territory”, meaning recruiting foreigners once they come to Russia. For that purpose every regional department of the KGB had a “first section” tasked to deal with foreigners once they get to the “territory” of the region, and Putin himself spent a few years in this section in St Petersburg.

The goal, the dossier states, was to create kompromat on Trump. And kompromat, meaning compromising material, as a tactic to smear one’s opponents in the media, came into use in Russia in the late 1990s. It was a mix of intercepted phone calls and analytical profiles prepared by the oligarchs’ shadowy security agencies and government security services. In the 2000s and 2010s, kompromat was redirected against Russian opposition leaders, as well as western diplomats. Videos with kompromat were aired on state television and posted on the websites of pro-Kremlin media outlets.

Unverifiable sensational details aside, the Trump dossier is a good reflection of how things are run in the Kremlin – the mess at the level of decision-making and increasingly the outsourcing of operations, combined with methods borrowed from the KGB and the secret services of the lawless 1990s. That is not the picture projected by the Kremlin externally – namely, that the Russian government is an effective bureaucracy, strategic in foreign policy planning and ruthless in execution. And that, whatever the truth of Putin’s connections with Trump, makes it all pretty scary.

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 06:58 PM
Trump's Russian friend Putin is hard at work.....

The Times of London ‏@thetimes

Russia will arm Libyan general Khalifa Hiftar who is fighting western-backed Tripoli government
http://thetim.es/2jQKDZ9

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 07:33 PM
CNN to Sean Spicer: Jim Acosta 'has our complete support'


The Trump transition team's calls for an apology from CNN correspondent Jim Acosta are being met by something else: a strong statement from CNN supporting Acosta.

"Being persistent and asking tough questions is his job, and he has our complete support," the network said Monday morning.

Acosta attracted President-elect Donald Trump's ire during a contentious press conference last Wednesday. After Trump criticized CNN from the podium, Acosta interjected and forcefully tried to ask a question.

"I felt it was only fair that if our news organization is going to be attacked, that we get a chance to ask a follow-up question about what Donald Trump was talking about," Acosta said on television afterward.

Incoming White House press secretary Sean Spicer has repeatedly said that Acosta should apologize.

Speaking on Fox News on Sunday, Spicer said, "The idea that he took no responsibility for his behavior was highly unacceptable and inappropriate, and he does owe us and his fellow members of the press corps an apology for his behavior."

Acosta and CNN have declined to apologize.

The dispute is partly about what happened afterward, when Spicer warned Acosta about his behavior.

Spicer claimed on Fox that Acosta mischaracterized the conversation.

CNN responded in its statement on Monday: "As we have learned many times, just because Sean Spicer says something doesn't make it true. Jim Acosta is a veteran reporter with the utmost integrity and extensive experience in covering both the White House and the President-elect."

What the two men agree on is that Spicer told Acosta, "If that happens again," at a future press conference, "I will have you removed."

Spicer's argument is that Acosta's behavior was "highly unacceptable." Trump's conservative media allies agree. Acosta disagrees.

The next day, he said on CNN's "New Day:" "I'm going to do the news. We're going to keep doing the news."


Team Trump: Deny, conflate, confuse

REMEMBER what the Russian SIX Ds of propasganda are......

DISTORT...DEFLECT...DISMISS...DISMAY...ALL designed to create DOUBT and DISTRUST

And Trump is really good at this......

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 07:36 PM
"Newly Created #trump Bikers" a site to behold #kremlin KGB script injected in #MAGA cult
https://youtu.be/SCq2v2Qkyxs

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 07:40 PM
Trump's attack on BMW was not only ill-advised but ignorant: BMW makes more cars in the US than it sells there. They deserve a medal.

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 07:44 PM
Priebus: Lewis wrong to question Trump's legitimacy Stephanopoulos: Trump questioned Obama for years

Priebus: "That's not the point"

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 07:48 PM
PERFECT EXAMPLE of the alt right FAKE NEWS......

JUST a side note...the German government has given social media gaints FB..Instrgram..Twitter and company a heads up that a new law is coming that they must remove fake news and or hate speech comments when they are identified...immediately and without delay under the penalty of strong fines.....

They all said yes they would but have not done a single thing since then and the German government is feed up with their delays...especially with the massive increase in Russian info warfare coming via social media aimed at Germany

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 08:01 PM
Trump lied to FEC about debt to foreign banks–why? Was his business a front to launder foreign $ into his campaign?

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 08:03 PM
Trump uses 96 LLCs, shell companies-ideal to hide foreign influence-unprecedented nondisclosure for a POTUS

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 08:07 PM
Well look at that–Deutsche Bank, which loaned Trump hundreds of millions (incl $170M for his DC hotel) just got $14B fine slashed by half!

Stock price of Deutsche Bank, which loaned Trump $300+ million, jumped 28% since election, on expectations Trump will reduce $14B DOJ fine

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 08:13 PM
How did Trump get $1 billion+ in loans from foreign banks with this rating?

Trump got hundreds of millions from China with this rating, when US banks wouldn't loan

Great many Russian oligarchs whose assets are frozen bc sanctions stood to gain from Trump's win

REMEMBER in the Trump interview just released he stated...the sanctions are hurting Russia badly....NOTICE he did not state the Russian economy or the Russian government...SO who in Russia is being badly hit.......

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 08:18 PM
July 2016:
Sater visits Trump Tower
Page meets Putin aides
DNC leaks occur
DNC staffer Seth Rich killed

OUTLAW 09
01-16-2017, 08:29 PM
Eagle-eyed @AceInCharlotte snapped Rybolovlev and Trump planes in Concord on Nov 3–and tweets she tried to contact local news and CNN..they were not interested.....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 06:35 AM
What happened?????

Before presidential run, Trump called Russia the 'biggest problem' and geopolitical foe of U.S. @CNNPolitics
http://cnn.it/2j1WC61

In WSJ interview, CIA’s John Brennan rejects Trump’s criticism
http://www.wsj.com/articles/cia-director-john-brennan-rejects-donald-trumps-criticism-1484611514#

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 06:37 AM
Trump and conflict of interests will never stop until he releases his IRS records and sells everything into a true blind trust......

Trump team defends health pick Tom Price over ethics charge
http://reut.rs/2jEqbLK

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 06:39 AM
Wow, Michael Cohen's story went from "Never in my life" to "not since 2001" about being in Prague. So…lying now or then?


Great explainer from @PIIE on the truth about China's currency manipulation - ie, it's not doing what Trump thinks:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QjcDyYciyIg#

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 06:44 AM
THIS reinforces a previous Russian comment to Trump's offer to lift sanctions for nuclear weapons reductions.....that I posted yesterday....

Putin's spokesman says that even if Trump lifts sanctions, Russia may not want to talk nuclear disarmament.
http://www.newsru.com/russia/16jan2017/peskov.html#

Putin wants Trump to flatly lift the sanctions with no reciprocal move by Russia....

WHY does he feel that he can demand this?????

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 07:01 AM
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 17h
17 hours ago

Celebrate Martin Luther King Day and all of the many wonderful things that he stood for. Honor him for being the great man that he was!

AFTER he bashes via Twitter one of the core leaders of the civil rights movement Lewis who went to jail 45 times in the fight for civil rights BUT Trump dodged the VN draft 4 times.....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 07:03 AM
RAND Corporation

@RANDCorporation
Expert: The most persuasive thing is to hear something from someone like you. #Russia's propaganda exploits this.
http://r.rand.org/3d5l

Reading this reads like the current Trump tweet campaign and what we heard from the alt right and Breitbart.com...Infowars and Alex Jones during the campaign and now .....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 07:07 AM
Trump's Russian friends are yelling lately trying to get him to withdraw these troops as a "sign" that he wants to work with Putin.....

US tanks and troops in Poland a threat, Russia says. But big, snap Russian military exercises are not, apparently
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38592448#

BTW a majority of these large scale snap exercises requires Russia to register them with OSCE and allow foreign observers...BUT strangely Russia does neither....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 07:09 AM
"...if he is a clever man, then he will fully and quite quickly understand another level of responsibility"

-Putin on Trump, Dec 4 2016.

Garry Kasparov
Verified account
‏@Kasparov63
Every FP position Trump takes, starting from total ignorance around year ago, is on Putin's wish list. Brexit, Ukraine, NATO, EU, Merkel.

I'm still waiting for Trump to say something about global affairs that hasn't literally been said first by the Kremlin.

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 07:14 AM
Following the money on Manafort and his Russian ties. He is DJT's advisor.

Azor ...you would be surprised at just how much open source data there is on Trump and that is what was fed into Palantir....to create what we came out with for a link analysis all in open source mode...SO if we can do it on a 19 hour run so can the FBI and the US IC who has far more than we did have....

The core question becomes...does the FBI really want to do it as a bulk of say the NYC office is proTrump...anti Clinton....what is interesting is that FBI has not even alluded to the fact that they got FISA warrants for persons unnamed near Trump....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 09:48 AM
THIS reinforces a previous Russian comment to Trump's offer to lift sanctions for nuclear weapons reductions.....that I posted yesterday....

Putin's spokesman says that even if Trump lifts sanctions, Russia may not want to talk nuclear disarmament.
http://www.newsru.com/russia/16jan2017/peskov.html#

Putin wants Trump to flatly lift the sanctions with no reciprocal move by Russia....

WHY does he feel that he can demand this?????

SO now just how does Trump justify meeting utin who he expects to do "good things" in order to get the sanctions lifted WHEN one hears this from the Russian FM today....

Lavrov Sees No Linkage in Trump’s Offer to Lift Sanctions

SO Putin expects Trump to lift sanctions based on what exactly...Putin's "good looks"....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 09:58 AM
Interesting article actually and it comes from TASS the Russian media outlet which is one of their major global disinformation and propaganda players..

WHAT is more interesting is this particular so called Trump advisor who has not been mentioned at all in US press and or social media before this statement.....

http://tass.com/world/925367


DAVOS, Switzerland, January 17. /TASS/. U.S. President-Elect Donald Trump has big respect for the Russian people and Russian culture and he is signaling that whatever the current hostilities may be, there is a hope the two countries can improve the situation in the coming years, Anthony Scaramucci, Trump’s senior advisor for communications with business told TASS.

"What the new American president is saying is that he has an enormous respect for the Russian people and the legacy of the relationship that the US has with Russia, which dates back to the Second World War," Scaramucci said. "We were two nations in the heat of battle during the Cold War, yet there was enough mutuality of respect that we kept all of our citizens safe during that period of time."
"So I think he has a perspective, a stock of perspective, he’s a man of tremendous common sense and I think his position, his belief is there’s probably shared values or shared interests, that we can align ourselves with each other and this could be mutually beneficial," he said.
"At the same time, there may be antagonisms that either we have to fix," Scaramucci said. "Or we can still stay antagonistic with each other, but he [Trump] is a realist."
"He has enormous respect for the Russian people and Russian culture and so he is signaling that, hopefully, whatever the hostilities may be, perhaps we can improve them over the coming years," the advisor said.#
US sanctions#
Scaramucci said he believes the American sanctions against Russia have had an opposite effect and have rather consolidated the Russians around their president.
"You know the Russian people better than me," he said. "I think the sanctions had in some ways an opposite effect because of Russian culture. I think the Russians would eat snow if they had to. And so for me the sanctions probably galvanized the nation with the nation's president."

"Long-term sanctions could be painful had they been effective in other areas? In other nations the answer is yes, or otherwise they wouldn't be using them if they weren't effective, but what I think we have to do now is think outside the box."
"We have to make the world safer, we have to eliminate from the world the threat of radical Islamist#terrorism, and we have to figure out the ways to grow the wages for working-class families," Scaramucci said.
"Whether in Russia or in the US, I think there're a lot of common objectives," he indicated.
Scaramucci said some actions taken by the Russian government had been "met with some level of disapproval by the global community", but he added that "may be there will be an opportunity to sit down again" and to see if the sides could negotiate some of the things again.
President-elect is an 'optimist by nature'
Donald Trump sees enough common interests, proceeding from which the US and Russia could improve their relations, Scaramucci has noted.
"I’m an optimistic person by nature and so is#the president-elect," Scaramucci said when a reporters asked him if he thought if mutual understanding between the two countries could be better, especially in the economic segment.
"I think the president-elect has the vision to see enough common interests where, hopefully, in a year from now the relationship with the Russian people and the Russian government and the United States will be better than it is today. That’s our hope."

He said there could not no certainty about that "because who knows what circumstances or facts are gonna contribute to the relationship but we would like that to be the case, so I’m an optimist and I’d like to say yes."
Scaramucci also specified the kind of message he was going to make on behalf of the incoming Administration at Davos.
"I think it’s a fairly consistent basic message, which is that more economic commerce we have as a globe, the better the societies will be," he said. "I think we’re very focused - at least on the Administration’s side - on how we’re going to get middle class wages and working class families’ wages up in the US, but I think one of the ways we can do this is through the symmetry of trade agreements."
"You know we are for free trade but we want trade to be fair, we don’t want it to be unbalanced against the US anymore," Scaramucci said. "We’re big-time believers that more growth, more opportunity comes from trade, from commerce and we have no objections to the American multinationals investing anywhere in the world."



Interestingly there were also more Trump advisors being quoted as well as Trump in TASS press releases....

Trump says Putin’s thoughts on Russian-US relations are 'so correct'

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 10:01 AM
THOUGHT Trump was proUS jobs....EVEN his spokesperson at Devos stated as much today in the Russian TASS news agency interview....

BUT WAIT....then this contradicts his clearly stated intentions does it not...

Wilbur Ross, Trump's Commerce pick, offshored 2,700 jobs since 2004
http://reut.rs/2iHeJ3G

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 10:04 AM
Having posted hundreds of Russian comments both on eastern Ukraine and Syria....you positively know you hit oil when the Russian FM responds like this.....

It is kind of like the Russian drill of denying anything that is actually true and admitting things you know are fake.....

So one listens for Russian denials...and then you know it is the truth......

Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minster, calls Christopher Steele, author of Trump dossier “a fugitive swindler from MI6”.

BUT WAIT..the Russian FM is lying in a such short comment....Steele is not a "fugitive".....as he is not wanted for anything these days....he simply is avoiding Putin killer teams which have worked nicely and uninhibited in UK in the past....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 10:08 AM
THIS reinforces a previous Russian comment to Trump's offer to lift sanctions for nuclear weapons reductions.....that I posted yesterday....

Putin's spokesman says that even if Trump lifts sanctions, Russia may not want to talk nuclear disarmament.
http://www.newsru.com/russia/16jan2017/peskov.html#

Putin wants Trump to flatly lift the sanctions with no reciprocal move by Russia....

WHY does he feel that he can demand this?????

THIS is exactly what one assumes to see from Putin...ALL talk and talk and talk...but in the end nothing substantive....

MAYBE that is what Trump wants to then be able to state..see we get along fine and we are talking about nuclear weapons....SO I can lift sanctions...

WHAT Trump fails to see is that all Putin does is talk and when signs any agreement it is never held to.....

THAT is what the outgoing CIA Director was warning him about and Trump is nave enough to believe he is this great negotiator....BUT WAIT with SEVEN bankruptcies so I guess he is a great talker...

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 10:12 AM
#Lavrov tells German reporter it's not up to #Russia to prove it isn't hacking, but rather up to Germany to prove it is.

BUT WAIT...is this not exactly what Trump has been saying....

WHAT both Lavrov and Trump do not want to admit is that I am sitting on physical evidence of a major Russian sponsored hack and the Germans can in fact prove it.....as I can as well....

Russians are getting sloppy these days....WHAT amazes me is that they do not feel the West will cyber attack back....if I was a Russian bank I would be highly concerned as they are basically poorly defended....Russian banks spent a total of 25M USDs on internet security last year compared to say JP Morgan's 600M USDs...

Russian banks are under constant hacking attacks from the Russian mafia on an hourly basis these days..

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 10:31 AM
Interesting article actually and it comes from TASS the Russian media outlet which is one of their major global disinformation and propaganda players..

WHAT is more interesting is this particular so called Trump advisor who has not been mentioned at all in US press and or social media before this statement.....

http://tass.com/world/925367



Interestingly there were also more Trump advisors being quoted as well as Trump in TASS press releases....

Trump says Putin’s thoughts on Russian-US relations are 'so correct'

Interesting comments by this Trump pick for DoS position....

Trump Advisor Not Sold on Science Because Scientists Have Been Wrong 'Throughout the 5,500-Year History of Our Planet'
He later clarified that he was talking about “well-recorded human history”, not the age of planet Earth.


On 14 December 2016, Anthony Scaramucci —#an advisor to President-elect Donald Trump and an executive member of his transition team —#appeared on the CNN show "New Day" in an interview with anchor Chris Cuomo.
The primary topic of discussion was the transition team’s recent request for the names of DOE employees who have worked on Obama’s clean energy or climate change initiatives — a deeply controversial and completely unprecedented move with which the DOE has refused#to comply.
In that interview, Scaramucci tried to#pivot by making the (unsubstantiated) point that a scientific consensus does not exist around the topic of the anthropogenic contribution to global warming:
SCARAMUCCI: I know that the current president believes that the human beings are affecting the climate. There are scientists that believe that that's not happening. I think that for me personally --
CUOMO: The overwhelming consensus in the scientific community is that man's actions have an impact [...]
Scaramucci, who has stated on Twitter that he is#not a climate change denier, but “a pragmatist who wants market-driven solutions,” made it clear that his views, while potentially malleable, were not informed by science:
I'm not suggesting that we're not affecting the change. I honestly don't know, I'm not a scientist.
In a series of other comments in the six-minute interview, however, Scaramucci attempted to make the point that the views of scientists shouldn’t necessarily be taken at face value, because scientists have been wrong in the past:
There was an overwhelming science that the Earth was flat. And there was an overwhelming science that [...] we were the center of the world. A hundred percent, you know, we get a lot of things wrong in the scientific community. You and I both know that.
While it is obviously factually accurate that scientists have been wrong in the past (science is, of course, a process of building consensus amongst a heterogeneous group of individuals and not an infallible god making decrees), the examples Scaramucci used were not factual either, as Slate’s Phil Plait explained:
This is utterly wrong. No, there was not overwhelming science that the Earth is flat; the ancient Greeks knew we lived on a sphere more than 2,000 years ago.
And by “center of the world” I guess he means “center of the Universe,” but the best answer to that is precisely how Cuomo replied to these statements: “It’s called ignorance. You learn over time.”
In the final moments of the segment, Scaramucci reiterated his point about the fallibility of science in a way that seemed to suggest he believed that Earth was 5,500 years old:
CUOMO: You said you don't know. I'm saying the scientific community does.
SCARAMUCCI: But you're saying that you do, and you're saying the scientific community knows, and I'm saying people have gotten things wrong throughout the 5,500-year history of our planet.
In a longer cut of the video, however, it does appear that Scaramucci said "or I should say human history" to himself as#Cuomo was speaking.#In a later#tweet, Scaramucci said that he accepts 4.5 billion years for the age of the Earth. In a response for clarification on what Scaramucci meant by his 5,500 year comment, he provided us#with the following#response:
Was referring to well-recorded human history. Cuomo understood what I was saying but the segment was ending.
Many anthropologists and historians would agree with Scaramucci on this final point. The written historical record is generally thought to begin at around that time with advent of Sumerian cuneiform tablets, which is roughly in line with his assertion that 5,500 years referred to written human history.
It should also be noted, however, that historians have, from time to time, been wrong as well.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/12/16/trump-advisor-not-sold-on-science/

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 10:32 AM
Kremlin TV rejoicing over Trump's ostensible antagonism to Germany, the last pillar of the European order.
https://www.1tv.ru/news/2017/01/16/317915-a_schitannye_dni_do_inauguratsii_donald_tramp_dela et_gromkie_zayavleniya#


So, that idiot declared war on European Union & sets it in motion just because some trees got into his way somewhere in Northern-Ireland and the EU would not approve the destruction of an ancient for Ireland last forested area ...for his golf course....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 10:41 AM
THIS reinforces a previous Russian comment to Trump's offer to lift sanctions for nuclear weapons reductions.....that I posted yesterday....

Putin's spokesman says that even if Trump lifts sanctions, Russia may not want to talk nuclear disarmament.
http://www.newsru.com/russia/16jan2017/peskov.html#

Putin wants Trump to flatly lift the sanctions with no reciprocal move by Russia....

WHY does he feel that he can demand this?????

Russian parliament doesn't see why Russia should have to give up anything to get sanctions lifted. Leverage - gone.
https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20170116/1485791747.html#

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 10:56 AM
EU, including #Netherlands, #France & #Germany, are bracing themselves for #Russia|n "influence operations":
http://www.rferl.org/a/europe-russian-influence-operations/28236212.html#

BUT WAIT .....Trump denies this even happens especially in the US.....

BUT WAIT...does not Trump's close advisor Bannon via Breitbart.com have offices now in France/UK/Germany/Holland ...how can he work EU and then be a TS/SCI clearance holder in DC......conflict of interest...it sure is...if you are working two locations and earning salaries in two locations and if Trump is dealing with those same countries FP wise....

"Putin's friend" Le Pen to recognize Crimea Russian if she wins France elections
http://www.unian.info/politics/1727731-putins-friend-le-pen-to-recognize-crimea-russian-if-she-wins-france-elections.html#

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 11:04 AM
Brennan to Trump: Tell the families of dead CIA officers their loved ones were akin to Nazis
http://on.wsj.com/2jtIa9T

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 11:09 AM
APPEARS Flynn and his son WANT to overturn the 9/11 Commission's strong suggestion to create the ODNI.....

Flynn's son posts article saying Flynn should take control of 16 intel agencies now reporting to dni https://twitter.com/mflynnjr/status/821203123033219072#…

SHOULD we forget that Flynn was fired "for cause" from the DIA director position as he failed to provide adequate leadership there.....

SHOULD we forget Flynn deliberately leaked CIA TS/SCI operational intel to the Pakistani Intelligence Service THUS causing the deaths of THREE Americans one a COL...

SHOULD we forget that Flynn is a massive user of "conspiracy theories"..NOT to mention is anti Muslim rants the past several years.....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 11:11 AM
We need some humor when the topic is Trump.....Syria and eastern Ukraine....

"What do you mean, vet’s office? YOU SAID WE WERE GOING TO THE PHILHARMONIC!"

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 11:18 AM
So, this happened.

Hey Don - if you could lay off the crazy tweets about the PRC for a while, that would be super.

BREAKING: Chinese state-media editorial says Trump showing "strategic arrogance" and China must prepare for a "head-on confrontation"

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 11:23 AM
What Trump said on healthcare is like, "We're going to Mars without fuel, for the price of a popsicle stick -- NASA is figuring out details"

Refers to his statement..."we are throwing out Obamacare and everyone will have insurance coverage....they are almost finished with the plan...you will find out more later".....

HOW much later he did not specify....typical....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 11:27 AM
Mariachi bands and GRU are basically the same thing.

Large chunks of the #GOP have lost their mind thanks to Trump

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2017/01/12/texas-rep-mike-conawayrussian-hacking-like-mexican-singers-campaigning-clinton



WASHINGTON — A Texas lawmaker#on the#House intelligence committee says it wasn't just the Russians who interfered in last year's election.
Rep. Mike Conaway, R-Midland, is comparing the#use of Mexican entertainers to energize Democratic voters to the email hacking that officials say was orchestrated#by#Vladimir Putin's government.
“Harry Reid and the Democrats brought in Mexican soap opera stars, singers and entertainers who had immense influence in those communities into Las Vegas, to entertain, get out the vote and so forth,” Conaway told The Dallas Morning News this week. “Those are foreign actors, foreign people, influencing the vote in Nevada. You don’t hear the Democrats screaming and saying one word about that.”
Asked whether he considers that on par with Russian cyber-intrusions that aimed to damage Hillary Clinton’s campaign, Conaway said: “Sure it is, it’s foreign influence. If we’re worried about foreign influence, let’s have the whole story.”
Vicente Fernández, a famous Mexican singer and entertainer, recorded a song during the campaign supporting Clinton. After the third presidential debate, Fernández joined California-based band Los Tigres del Norte and American-born Mexican actress Angélica María at a post-debate “fiesta” in Las Vegas.
Clinton came to the event and thanked Fernández backstage for his song, noting that it had gone viral online. Democratic Senate candidate Catherine Cortez Masto, who won the race to replace Reid, also attended the event.
“It worked really well in Nevada, as you see,” Conaway said, pointing out that Democrats performed strongly in the state on Election Day. “Those folks are monster in the Hispanic community. They hold great sway.”
Texas Democratic Rep. Joaquin Castro, a fellow member of the House intelligence panel and vice chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, laughed when told of Conaway's comments#and said he assumes Conaway must have been joking.
“He knows there’s a big difference between Vicente Fernandez performing at a Hillary Clinton event and Vladimir Putin ordering interference with our elections,” Castro said. “The intelligence community has indicated that Vladimir Putin essentially ordered cyberwarfare, and nothing else compares to that.”
Cortez Masto, who became the nation's first Latina senator when she was sworn#in this month, responded to Conaway's claim in a tweet late Thursday, describing it#as "a pathetic and offensive attempt to try to diminish the consensus that Russia meddled in the 2016 election to boost Donald Trump."

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 11:33 AM
In FOUR long years unless we have impeachment....we will need a Trump dictionary

Can anyone understand where his brain is rambling with this direct question???? It is almost like he has these massive pieces of information floating around in his head in no logical order and then he just rambles anything together and in his head it makes sense to those listening they think he is crazy with a nuclear trigger finger and no control....

THAT is why he does not do press conferences as we have seen even those results....chaos....

THE TIMES: Do you care about other countries?
TRUMP: I'm told there's some sort of trouble in Afghanistan.

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 11:41 AM
Eagle-eyed @AceInCharlotte snapped Rybolovlev and Trump planes in Concord on Nov 3–and tweets she tried to contact local news and CNN..they were not interested.....

Azor...this goes to the hear to what I have been saying to you since Steele released his reports.....in the HUMINT world if you react on "sole source" HUMINT then you have verified something that leads you to fully accept this report and believe me the US IC has verified some items that depict Trump Russian money ties thus compromised....

I have done it and I am not the US IC and I sit in Berlin but link analysis I can do well......BTW....will post more on the 19% Rosneft 12B USD deal that Page was involved with.....key fact buried in the Steele report that is turning out to be very valid....

NOTICE in this statement the words....."on that dossier's findings"......something in those "findings" hit oil and hard.....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 04:23 PM
Azor...notice the Putin use of the word "prostitutes" ........in Russian this word actually has a double meaning....means actually someone who sells themselves or information for a cause/goal.....notice this is the plural use of the word....

And Steele was wrong with his report......?????
Putin Compares Those Behind Trump Dossier to 'Prostitutes'; US Official Says Poor Relations Are Russia's Fault
http://www.interpretermag.com/russia-update-january-17-2017/#15955#

Hope Putin is not alluding anything to Trump with this video.....
Here's Putin bragging about Russian prostitutes, "undoubtedly the best in the world." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OGObyWz1fg#

MORE being piled onto Trump as it get's closer to his taking power.....

There's more than one source, more than one tape & more than one date of allegations in the 'credible' Trump intel dossier: CIA to the BBC.
US MSM missed this from Putin himself on Russia today last month.....

Putin hints that #Russia did have a hand in Trump's unexpected victory in the US presidential election, despite predictable Kremlin denial.
Last month, at a press conference on Russian state fake news channel, Russia Today.

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 04:28 PM
Interesting article actually and it comes from TASS the Russian media outlet which is one of their major global disinformation and propaganda players..

WHAT is more interesting is this particular so called Trump advisor who has not been mentioned at all in US press and or social media before this statement.....

http://tass.com/world/925367



Interestingly there were also more Trump advisors being quoted as well as Trump in TASS press releases....

Trump says Putin’s thoughts on Russian-US relations are 'so correct'

"Scaramucci said, adding the focus should now be on finding common cause with Russia."
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1511RM#

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 04:53 PM
Donald J. Trump
Verified account
‏@realDonaldTrump
With all of the jobs I am bringing back into the U.S. (even before taking office), with all of the new auto plants coming back into our.....

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h
2 hours ago

country and with the massive cost reductions I have negotiated on military purchases and more, I believe the people are seeing "big stuff."

Ever notice Trump takes credit for things he never really fulfilled...

"massive cost reductions I negotiated on military purchases" is a blatant lie.....

He is talking about for example the F35...which is a Federal defense contract and only the government purchasing agencies have the authority to redo defense contracts...WHICH naturally Trump seems to not understand.....

NOTICE that the LM CEO stated it would be possible to maybe lower individual plane cost...BUT it was not discussed per se in his meeting with Trump as he knows full well that only the government contracting agencies can change defense contracts....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 04:55 PM
Trump nominee faces multiple allegations of insider trading
http://thkpr.gs/114bf5e50b0f

WAS it not Trump who shouted at each of his rallies...."drain the swamp".....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 05:02 PM
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump Jan 13
The "Unaffordable" Care Act will soon be history!


The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) on Tuesday released dire estimates on how repealing parts of the Affordable Care Act, without a proper replacement, would affect Americans’ health-insurance coverage. According to the study, repealing the law’s mandate penalties and subsidies would result in 18 million more uninsured people in the first new plan year following repeal. “Later, after the elimination of the ACA’s expansion of Medicaid eligibility and of subsidies for insurance purchased through the ACA marketplaces, that number would increase to 27 million, and then to 32 million in 2026,” the study continued. Additionally, health-care premiums for all U.S. customers would increase by 20 percent to 25 percent in the first year, with the increase reaching about 50 percent after the elimination of the Medicaid expansion and the subsidies. The estimates were based on the 2015 ACA repeal bill proposed by Republicans, as the GOP has yet to introduce new legislation for the current Congress. President-elect Donald Trump has demanded a repeal of Obamacare and the introduction of a replacement “quickly,” despite hesitance from party leaders over the speed at which such a feat can be accomplished.

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 05:07 PM
Putin says Moscow prostitutes are the best in the world. Seriously, what is it with Putin today? One misstep after another. He's in a tizzy.

VVP sends a not-so-subtle hint that the kompromat is real, and can be deployed any time it suits him

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 05:21 PM
Wonder if Trump knows this....before he pulls all US sanctions on Russia.....

Really worth reading the long article....


Why Vladimir Putin Hates Us
Western inability to grasp what motivates our enemies is nothing new

http://observer.com/2016/11/why-vladimir-putin-hates-us/#.WH4h7DGPZb4.tw...


He’s done it again. The honey badger in the Kremlin just moved more advanced missiles into position on Russia’s most westerly fringe to own the Baltic Sea. This week Moscow admitted it has deployed cutting-edge Bastion anti-ship missiles to the Kaliningrad exclave, north of Poland, plus equally advanced S-400 air defense systems to shoot down aircraft and missiles as far as 250 miles out.

With this move, the Kremlin has established control over the Baltic Sea, most of Poland and the Baltic republics—NATO members all. Russia now can exert anti-access and area denial—what the Pentagon calls A2AD for short—at will, meaning that any NATO aircraft or ships entering the region can be hit long before they get close to Kaliningrad. For Western military planners, this is nothing short of a nightmare, since Moscow can now block NATO reinforcements headed east to counter, say, Russian military moves on the vulnerable Baltic republics.

That scenario, wherein Moscow’s forces overrun a Baltic republic or two before NATO can meaningfully respond, is judged alarmingly plausible by Alliance planners, yet nobody should be surprised that Vladimir Putin has done this. One month ago, when he moved nuclear-capable Iskander-M ballistic missiles into Kaliningrad last month, initiating a Baltic version of the Cuban Missile Crisis, President Obama’s response was…nothing.

The outgoing commander-in-chief decided that he needed to appease the Kremlin one more time before leaving the White House, to the horror of our allies who live close to Russia. “We’re on our own until January 20, and maybe much longer,” was how a senior Alliance defense official in that neighborhood explained the reality of what Obama has done through his inaction.

For good measure, this week the Russian defense ministry indicated that the deployment of Iskander-M systems to Kaliningrad, which Moscow has said was merely part of a military exercise, will be staying there permanently. Since those missiles can launch nuclear or conventional warheads as far as 300 miles with stunning accuracy, Russia now holds a powerful military advantage over NATO in the Baltic region.

Predictably, the Kremlin maintains that moving state-of-the art missiles into Kaliningrad is a response to American ballistic missile defenses which have been deployed in Eastern Europe. As usual, Moscow depicts all its military moves, even ones which are destabilizing to regional security, as cosmically defensive, so great is the Western threat to Russia.

Russian remains an existential threat to the United States in a manner that jihadists simply are not, no matter what Islam-alarmists say.
Such brazen chessboard moves with cutting-edge weaponry are hardly surprising, since Putin has been challenging Western—especially American—power all around the world of late. The Kremlin cares so little about our reactions to its provocations that it’s admitted it played clandestine spy-games with our elections, conceding that Wikileaks is a Russian pawn. Simply put, President Obama’s consistent unwillingness to confront Putin’s bad behavior on the global stage has predictably led to more—and worse—of it.

Of course, why Putin is doing all this, playing dangerous games which could provoke a major war, looms as a big question here, albeit one that Western foreign policy gurus have trouble answering. Our academic international relations experts, who indulge in silliness like game-theory or realist fantasies to explain Putin’s increasingly aggressive policies, have difficulty explaining why the Kremlin—which after all in military or economic terms is vastly weaker than NATO—is acting so brazenly.

Western inability to grasp what motivates our enemies is nothing new. Fifteen years ago, in the aftermath of al-Qa’ida’s attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, everybody wanted to know “why they hate us.” President George W. Bush spoke the received Beltway wisdom when he explained that jihadists and Islamists hate us because of our “freedoms.”

Such escapism, while flattering to American self-perceptions, was completely wrong. The answer was right there since jihadists talk nonstop (especially online) about their worldview. Their hatred for Americans and the West has nothing to do with our freedoms, which radical Muslims care nothing about. It has everything to do with our policies—especially our support for Israel and our military presence in Muslim countries—plus our decadent way of life, particularly Western post-modern sexual mores, which jihadists see as literally invading their countries through media and entertainment.

Misunderstanding what makes our enemies tick is old hat in Washington. During the Cold War, our academic mavens, highly paid by the Pentagon to prognosticate about the Kremlin’s inner workings, paid little attention to Soviet public statements. Such aggressively anti-Western Marxist-Leninist pronouncements, often threatening nuclear war, were dismissed by our experts, academics plus Intelligence Community eggheads, who insisted that these ravings were just for show: in private, Soviet political and military leaders were calm and rational men just like us.

Of course, after the Cold War we learned that the Kremlin leadership said the same nutty things in private, dripping with Communist hatred for the capitalist West, that they yelled in Red Square. It’s tough enough for any person to maintain a completely different public persona than his private one, while for a whole regime it’s impossible. Therefore, pay attention to what your enemies state openly—there’s a good chance they believe it.

It’s not like Putin and his minions have been hiding what they believe. Putin himself is very much a KGB man—what Russians call a Chekist—cunningly conspiratorial to his bones. Yet over the last decade, he has become an open Russian nationalist with strong religious overtones. Regime outlets pontificate nonstop about the evils of the West, castigating our decadence and depravity, reflecting a nationalism that is deeply grounded in Orthodox Christianity.

Putin has talked warmly about what he calls “spiritual security“—which means keeping versions of Christianity other than Russian Orthodoxy out of the country—even stating that Russia’s “spiritual shield”#is as important to her security as its nuclear shield. His inspiration for this comes from Orthodox thinkers, above all Ivan Ilyin, who hated the West with vigor and passion. This anti-Western worldview seems strange and even incomprehensible to most Americans, its reference points are utterly foreign to us, yet is grounded in centuries of Russian history and spiritual experience.

In this viewpoint, which I have termed Orthodox Jihadism, the West is an implacable foe of Holy Russia with whom there can be no lasting peace. For centuries—whether led by the Catholic Church, Napoleon, Hitler or the United States—the West has tried to subjugate Russia and thereby crush Orthodoxy, the one true faith. This is the Third Rome myth, which became very popular in 19th century Imperial Russia, postulating that it is Russia’s holy mission to resist the Devil and his work on earth.

Putin has reinvigorated such throwback thinking, making the Russian Orthodox Church—the de facto state religion—the ideological centerpiece of his regime. After Communism fell, the country needed a new ideological anchor, and Putinism found it in a potent amalgam of religion and nationalism which has far greater historical resonance with Russians than Communism ever did.

Western skeptics invariably note that Putin’s can’t really be an Orthodox believer and, besides, most Russians don’t bother to attend church regularly anyway. I have no idea what Putin actually believes—unlike Dubya I can’t see into his soul—but he certainly knows how to look like a real Orthodox, while the fact that regular church attendance in Russia isn’t particularly high doesn’t change that three-quarters of Russians claim to be Orthodox. The political reality is that Putinism has successfully convinced most Russians to go along with the official ideology, at least tacitly.

To get a flavor of what Putinism’s worldview looks like, simply listen to what Moscow says. It’s easy to find fire-breathing clerics castigating the West and its pushing of feminism and gay rights, which they openly term Satanic. The Russian “think tank” (in reality it’s just a website) Katehon is a Kremlin-approved outlet which offers heavy doses of geopolitics suffused with militant Orthodox nationalism. Significantly, its name comes from the Greek term for “he who resists the Antichrist”—and Katehon makes perfectly clear that the decadent, post-modern West is what they mean.

Then there’s Tsargrad TV, which is Russia’s version of Fox News, if Fox News were run by hardline Russian Orthodox believers. It’s the project of Konstantin Malofeev, a Kremlin-connected hedge funder-turned-religious crusader who wanted to give the country a news outlet that reflected traditional values. Its name is the traditional Slavic term for Constantinople—the Second Rome in Russian Orthodox formulation. A few months back, when Putin visited Mount Athos in Greece, one of Orthodox’s holiest sites, accompanied by Patriarch Kirill, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Tsargrad TV gave it wall-to-wall live coverage.

Continued...

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 05:25 PM
John Bolton calls for rethinking One China policy, and stationing US military soldiers and assets in Taiwan!!!

Seems he missed also the latest Chinese warnings....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 05:31 PM
Le Pen Claims Crimea Was "Never Ukrainian" And Joins Trump In Bashing Berlin
http://www.interpretermag.com/day-1065/#15954

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 06:00 PM
Disturbing report on Trump’s National Security Adviser emerges on pro-Putin website
http://thkpr.gs/494c57cbe831

BTW...this particular website is Russian funded....


On Monday night, Michael Flynn Jr. — son of and former chief of staff for President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn — tweeted out a story published on Voltaire Network entitled, “General Flynn’s Proposals to Reform Intelligence.”

The story, published last month with a Damascus dateline and authored by Thierry Meyssan — a 9/11 truther who published a book in 2002 entitled, “The Big Lie” — previews how Flynn plans to rollback “the big reforms that took place during the Bush and Obama years.”

Perhaps most significantly, the story says the “radical overhaul” Flynn is planning involves the elimination of the office of the Director of National Intelligence, an office created by President Bush in 2004, with power centralized under Flynn instead.

“The 16 agencies should no longer be accountable to the National Intelligence Director but only to the National Security Adviser,” Meyssan writes. “In other words, they will be accountable to General Flynn personally.”
The story cites anonymous sources, which some informed observers believe include Flynn Jr. himself. Last month, CNN broke news that Flynn Jr. was working in an official capacity for the Trump transition team, but the Trump team quickly distanced themselves from him after Flynn Jr.’s social media posts amplifying unfounded conspiracy theories and racist memes came under scrutiny.

Flynn Sr. is an open Islamophobe who has close ties with Russia. In December 2015, he sat at the same table with Russian President Vladimir Putin at an event commemorating the 10th anniversary of Russia’s state-owned RT television network, an outlet described in the recently unclassified intelligence report about Russia’s manipulation of the presidential election as “the Kremlin’s principal international propaganda outlet.” Flynn gave remarks blasting President Obama and said he didn’t know whether the 2013 sarin gas attack in Syria widely thought to have been the responsibility of the Russia-backed Assad regime was a “false flag.”

Last week, the Washington Post’s David Ignatius, citing an unnamed “senior U.S. government official,” reported that on December 29 — the same day the Obama administration announced retaliatory measures in response to the election meddling — Flynn “phoned Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak several times.”

Subsequent reports indicate Flynn and Kislyak talked on the phone five times that day. By contrast, the Obama transition team didn’t talk to Kislyak a single time before Obama was sworn in.
C-SPAN coverage mysteriously overtaken by Russia state televisionIn his most recent post on Gab, a social media platform that caters to white nationalists, Flynn Jr. struck a similarly anti-mainstream media tone, writing, “Im sick of these fake news media a$$holes pulling at strings, trying to pit Trumps cabinet against each other. Piece of advice, good number of his cabinet sat across from (in @GenFlynn case interrogated) members of Al Qaeda so nothing LSM can OR WILL EVER do to shake these TRUE PATRIOTS!!”

Voltaire Network has published a number of articles alleging the U.S. government was complicit in 9/11 and speculating about possible Israeli involvement as well. The site is also staunchly pro-Putin.

In October, Meyssan authored an article asserting that “Vladimir Putin is responsible for the rise and recovery of Russia” and conjectured that the Obama administration “imagines… that if Putin is eliminated, it may be possible to force Russia back down to the place it occupied 20 years ago.”

In recent weeks, Trump has repeatedly bashed reputable outlets like CNN as “FAKE NEWS” while linking to content from staunchly pro-Trump sites like One America News and LifeZette.

Flynn Jr...lies as much as his father does....


“Im sick of these fake news media a$$holes pulling at strings, trying to pit Trumps cabinet against each other. Piece of advice, good number of his cabinet sat across from (in @GenFlynn case interrogated) members of Al Qaeda so nothing LSM can OR WILL EVER do to shake these TRUE PATRIOTS!!”


IF Flynn ever conducted a single interrogation as a US General THEN he is in full violation of all Army guidance issued to only Army trained interrogators...civilian interrogators were also allowed but were usually previous military interrogators......

If he did conduct interrogations then he is liable for criminal charges...he should have known this after the Abu Ghraib problems....WHICH he did not participate in the "required training" in order to continue as an interrogator any where on Iraq and or AFG....

Tactical questioning he could in fact conduct and I think this what the son is talking about...BUT again restricted to a key set of questions and again AFTER specific training....AND yes Generals would if they were interrogators and or tactical questioners have to had taken the Army mandatory training...

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 06:25 PM
Three work days till inauguration and still no DOD or State appointments below cabinet level.

Sign of behind-scenes infighting & gridlock?

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 06:29 PM
EU Mythbusters

@EUvsDisinfo
Pro-Kremlin outlets spread disinformation that #NATO is preparing for war with Russia. #DisinfoReview:
https://euvsdisinfo.eu/a-masterclass-in-disinformation/#

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 06:36 PM
Azor...this goes to the hear to what I have been saying to you since Steele released his reports.....in the HUMINT world if you react on "sole source" HUMINT then you have verified something that leads you to fully accept this report and believe me the US IC has verified some items that depict Trump Russian money ties thus compromised....

I have done it and I am not the US IC and I sit in Berlin but link analysis I can do well......BTW....will post more on the 19% Rosneft 12B USD deal that Page was involved with.....key fact buried in the Steele report that is turning out to be very valid....

NOTICE in this statement the words....."on that dossier's findings"......something in those "findings" hit oil and hard.....

Forget dodgy dossier, ask yourself this: why would a Russian president go out of his way to defend honour/integrity of new US president?

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 07:08 PM
National security scholars have called Donald #Trump the most pro-Russian candidate in modern American history.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/9-things-trump-has-said-election-might-make-putin-smile-n707566#

NOTICE the Trump reliance on Breitbart.com for his news yet he attacks CNN...WaPO...NYTs....and just about any US MSM that critiques him....
Note the Breitbart link..."big journalism"...insecurity at every level.

Donald J. Trump
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"How Trump Won--And How The Media Missed It"

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/01/16/media-covered-trump-without-listening-voters/

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 07:19 PM
Sputnik
Verified account
‏@SputnikInt
BREAKING: #Putin sees 'Maidan-style' attempts in US to delegitimize @realDonaldTrump
http://sptnkne.ws/dreH#

So wait...If it's maidan style, is it also sponsored by foreign powers? Because if so...We're in agreement

This headline: "Putin does not believe @realDonaldTrump engaged with young women of inferior responsibility"

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 07:19 PM
Question to WH PressSec: "Putin likened US IC to prostitutes. How'd react?"
Josh Earnest: "Interesting metaphor he chose..[pause for effect]

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 07:28 PM
What Trump said on healthcare is like, "We're going to Mars without fuel, for the price of a popsicle stick -- NASA is figuring out details"

Refers to his statement..."we are throwing out Obamacare and everyone will have insurance coverage....they are almost finished with the plan...you will find out more later".....

HOW much later he did not specify....typical....

Something's Missing from Republican Obamacare Replacement Plan–The Plan. Colbert on GOP's deadly "Repeal and Erase"
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/videos/a52324/colbert-the-werd-obamacare-repeal/#

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 07:35 PM
A telling tweet from an ardent Trump supporter......that she then deleted...

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 07:37 PM
BUT Trump knows this already ........

Putin can end sanctions and end the war instantly: withdraw invading Russian troops from Crimea and Donbas. This has been true for 3 years.

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 07:44 PM
Nixon's lawyer John Dean on Trump: "He is going to test our democracy as it has never been tested."

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/john-dean-interview/513215/?utm_source=polfb



Sometime early last fall, John Dean says he began having nightmares about a Trump presidency. He would wake in the middle of the night, agitated and alarmed, struggling to calm his nerves. “I’m not somebody who remembers the details of dreams,” he told me in a recent phone call from his home in Los Angeles. “I just know that they were so bad that I’d force myself awake and out of bed just to get away from them.”
Few people are more intimately acquainted than Dean with the consequences of an American presidency gone awry. As White House counsel under President Richard Nixon from 1970 to 1973, he was a key figure in the Watergate saga—participating in, and then helping to expose, the most iconic political scandal in modern U.S. history. In the decades since then, Dean has parlayed that resume line into something of a franchise, penning several books and countless columns on the theme of presidential abuses of power.

These days, he’s finding his subject matter more distressing than usual.
“The American presidency has never been at the whims of an authoritarian personality like Donald Trump,” Dean, who is now 78, told me. “He is going to test our democracy as it has never been tested.”
With Trump preparing to take the oath of office this week, some of his more imaginative critics foresee a Nixonian demise on the horizon—the corrupt commander-in-chief felled by his own hubris, forced out of office. But if prophesies of impeachment seem a tad dramatic, Dean’s own forecast for the next four years is arguably much grimmer. He is not only convinced that Trump will be worse than Nixon in virtually every way—he thinks he’ll probably get away with it.
“I don’t think Richard Nixon even comes to close to the level of corruption we already know about Trump.”
Dean’s near-panicked take on the incoming president is shaped in large part by his years in the Nixon White House. In Trump, Dean says he has observed many of his former boss’s most dangerous traits—obsessive vengefulness, reflexive dishonesty, all-consuming ambition—but none of Nixon’s redeeming qualities.
“I used to have one-on-one conversations with [Nixon] where I’d see him checking his more authoritarian tendencies,” Dean recalled. “He’d say, ‘This is something I can’t say out loud...’ or, ‘That is something the president can’t do.’” To Dean, these moments suggested a functioning sense of shame in Nixon, something he was forced to wrestle with in his quest for power. Trump, by contrast, appears to Dean unmolested by any such struggle.

Unchecked, Dean worries, these neo-Nixonian instincts will only grow stronger once Trump enters the Oval Office—a place where every occupant since Nixon has found new ways to expand his authority and further his reach. “Barack Obama, like most presidents, did not dispose of any of the executive powers he inherited,” Dean said. “Hang on when Trump and his crew fully appreciate the extraordinary powers they will have—it is not only going to be thrilling, but dangerous.” (Dean, who now considers himself an independent, was also strongly critical of George W. Bush’s presidency.)
Those hoping Trump’s presidency will end in a Watergate-style meltdown point to the litany of scandals-in-waiting that will follow him into office—from his alleged ties to Russia, to the potential conflicts of interest lurking in his vast business network. Dean agrees that “he’s carrying loads of potential problems into the White House with him,” and goes even further in his assessment: “I don’t think Richard Nixon even comes to close to the level of corruption we already know about Trump.”
Yet, he’s profoundly pessimistic about the prospect of Trump facing any true accountability while in office. In the four decades since Nixon resigned, Dean says, the institutions that are meant to keep a president’s power in check—the press, Congress, even the courts—have been rendered increasingly weak and ineffectual by a sort of creeping partisan paralysis. (Imagine, if you dare, the Breitbart headlines that would follow Woodward and Bernstein’s first scoop if they were breaking their story today.)
More broadly, Dean believes the American electorate has become desensitized to political scandal. In the years immediately following Watergate, he said, #politicians were on high alert, and so was the public. But since then, that culture of vigilance has so eroded that it’s nearly impossible now to envision a sin so grave, or a revelation so explosive, that it would lead to the ouster of a sitting president. “The Trump campaign is an interesting measure of how high the tolerance has gotten for a public figure’s misbehavior,” he said, citing the candidate’s now-infamous comments on the leaked Access Hollywood tape as just one example.

Continued....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 07:49 PM
BREAKING AUDIO:Savage:Have u met Putin? Trump:Yes-1 time-a long time ago-Got along w/him great
http://clyp.it/ijpsirbw


BREAKING - Gloria Allred: Accuser Will Sue Trump
http://thebea.st/2iKAJub#

This was the result of the Trump sex comments video from 2005.....

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 07:51 PM
Breaking:Michael Cohen was main Trump contact for MMA fight in NYC w/Russian fighter/Putin's friend

OUTLAW 09
01-17-2017, 08:00 PM
Trump needs to have his very own fact checker sitting next to him.....

"I wasn't even there..got up and left" << Fact check: arrived in Moscow Nov 8.
This photo was taken Nov 11, 4 am

Azor....if he lies here he has lied in the past.....this is referencing the Hungarian model statements that you wiped away as fake.....NOTICE his witnesses are "rich people".....BUT not a single name does he name does he???

NOTICE he refers to Steele as an UK diplomat not a MI6 field agent speaking Russian and working in Moscow...
BTW...still have not seen that letter he is referring to here......

NOTICE the same individual...in both photos...

Photos:M-1 Global is also listed w/Michael Cohen-Owner pictured w/Putin in 1 and Trump

davidbfpo
01-17-2017, 08:18 PM
This thread is now way beyond the Forum's ToR. We are not a politics forum, that is covered by others. We are a Forum where members choose to engage in debate and exchanging information. This thread has developed way beyond that.

This part of the Forum is concerned with:
National will and developments back home for the intervening nations.I have no doubt the allegations and more about the President-Elect may affect 'national will and developments'. Time will tell.

A number of recent posts with photos and black boxes do not help.

I have therefore closed this thread. Posts of a similar theme that appear elsewhere will be deleted.

OUTLAW 09
05-10-2017, 08:28 AM
Azor..even you cannot state this has nothing to do with Russian non linear warfare against the US.....

CNN confirms Trump-Russia Grand Jury in Virginia. Comey hinted it at last week, that's why Trump fired him.

Why VA..there is the single FBI SCIF where classified materials can be read and listened to.....by a Federal Grand Jury....

You will notice in the Comey firing letter Trump mentions THREE times I thank you for telling me I am not being investigated.....

In fact a blatant lie as of last week Comey did not state such and indicated there was in fact an ongoing invesitgation of the Trump WH for Russian collusion.

SO really what is Trump trying to coverup??

IN all my years of watching US politics I have never seen such a statement by a former USG AG....Trump thinks the previous leaks have been bad..what comes now will be nasty and brutal.....

Eric Holder‏
Verified account

@EricHolder

To the career men and women at DOJ/FBI: you know what the job entails and how to do it. Be strong and unafraid. Duty. Honor. Country.

And now DC law firms are lining up to offer FBI/DOJ personnel any assistance if they whistleblow......

And if you are inclined to blow the whistle, come to my law firm and we will make sure you do so legally and with protection

NOW Azor try to convince Gerasimov is not "winning"......BTW...this is what in the end "killed Nixon"....cannot believe Trump never read this...

OUTLAW 09
05-10-2017, 09:05 AM
This is what non linear warfare as a driving force behind an effective political war is all about......again Gerasimov is "winning" and smiling all the way to the bank....



This is a tense and uncertain time in the nation’s history. The president of the United States, who is no more above the law than any other citizen, has now decisively crippled the F.B.I.’s ability to carry out an investigation of him and his associates. There is no guarantee that Mr. Comey’s replacement, who will be chosen by Mr. Trump, will continue that investigation; in fact, there are already hints to the contrary.

The obvious historical parallel to Mr. Trump’s action was the so-called Saturday Night Massacre in October 1973, when President Richard Nixon ordered the firing of the special prosecutor investigating Watergate, prompting the principled resignations of the attorney general and his deputy. But now, there is no special prosecutor in place to determine whether the public trust has been violated, and whether the presidency was effectively stolen by a hostile foreign power. For that reason, the country has reached an even more perilous moment.


This is exactly why anything this President states even his FP is nothing but lies and more lies.....

This statement released by the Trump WH does not reflect that both his son's in a golfing article in 2014 and again in 2015 BOTH stated that they did not need any US bank loans for their golf course expansions as they had more than enough Russian investments flowing into the golf course businesses....and one son stated in 2014 that they had over 100M USDs in Russian purchases in the Trump Towers...so no Russian business..notice Trump stated nothing about Russian money.....


President Donald Trump has hired a Washington law firm to send a letter to a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee saying he has no connections to Russia, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Tuesday.
Spicer's revelation was in response to a question from reporters on a briefing about committee member Sen. Lindsey Graham's remarks that he wants to look into whether Trump has any business dealings with Russia.
"The president, obviously, was aware of Senator Graham's suggestion after he made it today and he's fine with that. He has no business in Russia. He has no connections to Russia. So he welcomes that," Spicer said.
"In fact, he is already charged a leading law firm in Washington, D.C., to send a certified letter to Senator Graham to that point that he has no connections to Russia," Spicer said.

So is in fact Trump calling both of his son's lairs???????

This is from a MSM source that is normally quiet.... well mannered and reports factually......


Many observers would agree with at least some of Rosenstein’s points about the Clinton investigation—but so what? Are we seriously being asked to countenance the idea that Trump fired Comey because he didn’t treat Hillary Clinton fairly? The same Trump who seized upon Comey’s press conference last July and used it to buttress his claims that Clinton should be jailed. The same Trump who, on October 31st, said, “It took guts for Director Comey to make the move that he made in light of the kind of opposition he had.”
Until the White House comes up with a less ludicrous rationalization for its actions, we can only assume that Trump fired Comey because the Russia investigation is closing in on him and his associates, and he knew that he didn’t have much sway over the F.B.I. director. That is the simplest theory that fits the facts. And it is a cause for great alarm.
Ever since Trump took office, many people have worried about his commitment to democratic norms, the Constitution, and the rule of law. From the hasty promulgation of his anti-Muslim travel ban onward, he has done little to salve these concerns. Now he has acted like one of the authoritarian leaders he so admires—a Putin, an Erdoğan, or an el-Sisi.
Congress must restrain him and reassert the principles of American democracy by appointing an independent special prosecutor to take over the Russian investigation.#If the legislature won’t act unprompted—and the initial signs are that most of the G.O.P. intends to yield to the President’s abuse of his power—it will be incumbent on the American people to register their protests forcefully, and to put pressure on their elected officials.#Trump is a menace. He must be stopped.

To be stated that they view this as an actual attack on US democracy....means one thing and one thing only....Russia and their non linear war have won a major political war victory.....simple as that...

OUTLAW 09
05-10-2017, 09:47 AM
Maybe we all need to go back and thoroughly understand political warfare....

http://calhoun.nps.edu/bitstream/handle/10945/45838/15Jun_Dickey_Everett_Galvach_Mesko_Soltis.pdf?sequ ence=1


In May 1948, in the context of the early days of the Cold War, the State Department’s director of policy planning, George Kennan, defined political warfare as: The employment of all the means at a nation’s command, short of war, to achieve its national objectives. Such operations are both overt and covert. They range from such overt actions as political alliances, economic measures (as ERP [Economic Recovery Plan i.e. the Marshall Plan], and “white” propaganda, to such covert operations as clandestine support of “friendly” foreign elements, “black” psychological warfare and even encouragement of underground resistance in hostile states. Kennan’s reference to “all of the means at a nation’s command” mirrors the current understanding of grand strategy.

Van de Velde categorized all the means at a nation’s disposal into four instruments of statecraft: diplomatic, economic, military, and psychological. This concept has been adopted by the U.S. military and the psychological tool changed to the informational tool. Throughout this report, references to the instruments, levers, or tools of national power refer to diplomatic, informational, military, and economic means, abbreviated as DIME. Kennan’s understanding of PW was not an original concept.

His formative years as a Foreign Service Officer in Moscow, Prague, and Berlin had inculcated an intimate understanding of both the Nazi and Soviet methods for blurring the lines of conflict. In response, he drafted the memorandum—“The Inauguration of Organized Political Warfare”—containing the above definition, which proposed the establishment of a PW directorate within the U.S. government. In it, Kennan cited Clausewitz, Marx, and Lenin as teachers of PW.

Gerasimov just updated PW......Putin and the FSB/GRU are delivering it.....

Journalist is arrested for simply trying to ask a question of Trump Cabinet member and his WH Staff.....


In a day of truly cinematic developments from the executive branch, one nearly slipped by. Journalist Dan Heyman, a producer for Public News Service, approached Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price and his colleague Kellyanne Conway at the capitol building in West Virginia to ask them a question about the American Health Care Act. A few minutes later, he was arrested.

Preliminary eye-witness reports suggest that capitol police were unaware Heyman was a member of the press. He was reportedly detained after getting too close to Price and Conway. Heyman was charged with "willful destruction of state government processes" by the capitol police and held in a regional jail for several hours. He was released on $5,000 bond.

ACLU-WV legal director Jamie Lynn Crofts addressed reporters on the steps of the West Virginia capitol building around 8:45pm. "Our First Amendment rights are under attack every day, particularly from the Trump administration. And it's not surprising to me that an incident like this would happen when a reporter tried to ask a question of a member of the Trump administration," Crofts said. "They have shown us every day since Donald Trump took office that they don't care about the First Amendment, or the free press. Today was just another example of that. It's horrifying."
Upon his release around10:30pm, Heyman and his lawyer Tim DiPiero spoke to reporters. "I think it's dreadful. This is my job!" Heyman said.

OUTLAW 09
05-10-2017, 02:57 PM
This is a response by the current US CINC Trump when he is being critiqued for his firing of an investigator who is investigating him for Russian connections....

FOUR time VN draft-dodger who said avoiding STDs was "his Vietnam" attacks honorably discharged USMCR veteran.

For a alleged bone spur which he could not recall several months ago during an interview ...which foot it was....

AND this same CINC is to make and carry out FP??


Donald J. Trump‏
Verified account
#
@realDonaldTrump
Watching Senator Richard Blumenthal speak of Comey is a joke. "Richie" devised one of the greatest military frauds in U.S. history. For....

Donald J. Trump‏
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years, as a pol in Connecticut, Blumenthal would talk of his great bravery and conquests in Vietnam - except he was never there. When....

BUT WAIT...this is now a Trump pattern.....

Bharara investigated Kremlin money-laundering...fired.

Yates warned about Flynn's Moscow ties...fired

Comey oversaw investigation into Trump-Russia...fired.

OUTLAW 09
05-11-2017, 05:07 AM
Azor...read this link and then tell me that this President is capable for formulating a single FP outside of his stated "Russian friendship"...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/inside-trump%E2%80%99s-anger-and-impatience-%E2%80%94-and-his-sudden-decision-to-fire-comey/ar-BBAZWM9?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

OUTLAW 09
05-11-2017, 06:10 AM
Then Moscow risks losing leverage over them. Beijing is faced with a similar dilemma with regard to Pyongyang. Look at what happens when the "Armed Forces of Novorossiya" are ignored as Putin attends to other more pressing concerns...



Agreed. This dastardly plot is being directed by Stalin, whose brain is alive and well in a machine interface within Mount Yamantau.

But I thought that Comey was part of the “vast right-wing conspiracy” against Hillary that has existed since at least 1996, originated in Arkansas, and has come to include Comey and Putin? Why would Trump terminate his employment, and risk Comey revealing the conspiracy that Hillary warned us about decades ago?

Not engaging here. Feel free to use your EurRail pass to visit Hyde Park…



Source for this particular incident? Of the list of terrorist attacks in West Germany and reunified Germany, I have not seen a single incident attributed to the PKK, although ethnic Turks in Germany have been killed by racist and ethnic German terrorists.

Germany inherited the Turkish-Kurdish conflict due to its immigration policies. The PKK uses Germany as a base, but so does the MIT, which has developed an illegal network of 6,000 informers in Germany or roughly half the number of estimated PKK members residing there. This brazen intelligence activity on German soil puts the NSA's snooping in perspective...



U.S. foreign policy has little to do with the Syrian Civil War. Russian, Lebanese, Iraqi, Iranian, Turkish and finally Syrian internal politics, would be more relevant.

Azor...sorry that you still do not get it....the failure of any strategic strategy addressing the ME under the Obama WH...just reread the Obama and Rhodes long interviews....IS IN FACT largely responswible for the entire mess in the ME....even agree with Trump on that...

BUT the person that is now US President is in fact far more dangerous in the end for US ME FP as he has never read a book, does not listen well, thinks he is the smartest apple on the tree and actually he is none of that....yet he will be in theory driving US FP...

Read this and then tell me this President is actually "sane"....

Trump angered by Comey's refusal to back Trump's claims that Obama wiretapped him: report
http://hill.cm/WVtUWsM

WHEN everyone is telling him it did not happen and this man drives US FP??

REMEMBER this is the same person that still today refuses to accept the fact that it was Russian GRU/FSB that hacked the US and drove a major influence operation into the heart of US elections...

First it was that famous 400lb kid on a bed with a laptop and lately it has changed to maybe the "Chinese did it"...

Azor..this is what you must finally accept and yes you did from the beginning push back that Trump had ties to Russian money black money....

John Schindler‏
Verified account
#
@20committee
I've received a briefing from a senior intel official who's worked #KremlinGate from the beginning. I'll share the findings ASAP. Big stuff.

Right now there are three key social media journalists that are breaking Russian/Trump revelations and then MSM confirm them days later....

Right now this is a summation of what we can see as a coming true Constitutional crisis......

1. There have been confirmed THREE Federal Grand Juries..two have finished with a total of SIX sealed indictments and 16 more coming... RICO is at the core and the last one is the FISA investigation using highly classified US/European SIGINT AS well as a NY RICO investigation into the entire Trump business organization referring to money laundering...there is now a total of SIX FISA Warrants allowing surveillance of virtually everything that have been issued and renewed which means SIX individuals are under some serious surrveillance.

THAT is exactly the reason Comey asked the US DoJ for more money and agents to help...AND even when two individuals who were with Comey at that DoJ request for funding/personnel meeting...DoJ denies the meeting ever happened.

2. We know as of yesterday that ALL of the Flynn associates have been called in front of a FISA Grand Jury AND we know that Flynn as a retired general officer is under US military Inspector General investigations

3. We know that the Trump WH attempted to use Congressional individuals to influence and or shift the Russian investigations to the debate they themselves started on "unmasking" to deflect from the Russian connections

4- We know that the WH has been in the last months putting strong pressure on the FBI to divert from their Russin investigations to investigating so called leaks a number of which did not involve classified information...

5. "FinCEN has assisted in the ongoing FBI CI investigation into Trump admin ties with Russia"

SO if we know all of this and coupled with the FBI Director firing which was indeed focused on stopping the Russian investigation JUST how in the heck is Trump suppose to focus on FP...any FP....pray tell??

BUT WAIT...we saw him in his Russian mode yesterday when he deliberately provided Putin great PR and cut out a US press photo op....

BTW...I find this comment far more interesting actually...


Germany inherited the Turkish-Kurdish conflict due to its immigration policies. The PKK uses Germany as a base, but so does the MIT, which has developed an illegal network of 6,000 informers in Germany or roughly half the number of estimated PKK members residing there. This brazen intelligence activity on German soil puts the NSA's snooping in perspective...

You somehow failed to fully understand the "Gastarbeiter program" from the 60s that Germany used during their great industrial leap forward and mix it up with today's Syrian immigrant problem which can simply be resolved by stopping the bombings and tossing out Assad and removing Russian troops from Syrian soil....

BTW MIT does not use Kurds but rather Turkish members of the Grey Wolf...and the German BND/NKA and BfV has actively warned MIT directly that they will be arrested and deported after sentencing for spying.....MIT has signalled them they will back off....BUT German agencies are maintaining a tight surveillance on their known German agents.

Reference NSA snooping......the mission set of NSA and say the BND/BfV they all "watch" whoever they want to....this goes back to the Cold War days when they cross shared facilities and info....the strain began when the Wall fell and NSA was placed under binding German legal constraints as German was no longer "occupied"....

The strain between say NSA and BND/BfV has been that Germany is not a member of the Anglo Saxon spy info exchange program called FVEYs.....and is often excluded by the NSA in some types of info exchange forcing the BND-BfV to gather on their own...AND it still goes to the core problem that the US simply does not like to share much intel with the Germans..has been that way for years.....

This is the core reason the BND through extremely roundabout not so legal ways ways acquired the NSA PRISM lawful monitoring software program....when NSA would not share the technology with them yet claiming all of NATO must fight terrorism...

OUTLAW 09
05-11-2017, 06:59 AM
Azor...sorry that you still do not get it....the failure of any strategic strategy addressing the ME under the Obama WH...just reread the Obama and Rhodes long interviews....IS IN FACT largely responswible for the entire mess in the ME....even agree with Trump on that...

BUT the person that is now US President is in fact far more dangerous in the end for US ME FP as he has never read a book, does not listen well, thinks he is the smartest apple on the tree and actually he is none of that....yet he will be in theory driving US FP...

Read this and then tell me this President is actually "sane"....

Trump angered by Comey's refusal to back Trump's claims that Obama wiretapped him: report
http://hill.cm/WVtUWsM

WHEN everyone is telling him it did not happen and this man drives US FP??

REMEMBER this is the same person that still today refuses to accept the fact that it was Russian GRU/FSB that hacked the US and drove a major influence operation into the heart of US elections...

First it was that famous 400lb kid on a bed with a laptop and lately it has changed to maybe the "Chinese did it"...

Azor..this is what you must finally accept and yes you did from the beginning push back that Trump had ties to Russian money black money....

John Schindler‏
Verified account
#
@20committee
I've received a briefing from a senior intel official who's worked #KremlinGate from the beginning. I'll share the findings ASAP. Big stuff.

Right now there are three key social media journalists that are breaking Russian/Trump revelations and then MSM confirm them days later....

Right now this is a summation of what we can see as a coming true Constitutional crisis......

1. There have been confirmed THREE Federal Grand Juries..two have finished with a total of SIX sealed indictments and 16 more coming... RICO is at the core and the last one is the FISA investigation using highly classified US/European SIGINT AS well as a NY RICO investigation into the entire Trump business organization referring to money laundering...there is now a total of SIX FISA Warrants allowing surveillance of virtually everything that have been issued and renewed which means SIX individuals are under some serious surrveillance.

THAT is exactly the reason Comey asked the US DoJ for more money and agents to help...AND even when two individuals who were with Comey at that DoJ request for funding/personnel meeting...DoJ denies the meeting ever happened.

2. We know as of yesterday that ALL of the Flynn associates have been called in front of a FISA Grand Jury AND we know that Flynn as a retired general officer is under US military Inspector General investigations

3. We know that the Trump WH attempted to use Congressional individuals to influence and or shift the Russian investigations to the debate they themselves started on "unmasking" to deflect from the Russian connections

4- We know that the WH has been in the last months putting strong pressure on the FBI to divert from their Russin investigations to investigating so called leaks a number of which did not involve classified information...

5. "FinCEN has assisted in the ongoing FBI CI investigation into Trump admin ties with Russia"

SO if we know all of this and coupled with the FBI Director firing which was indeed focused on stopping the Russian investigation JUST how in the heck is Trump suppose to focus on FP...any FP....pray tell??

BUT WAIT...we saw him in his Russian mode yesterday when he deliberately provided Putin great PR and cut out a US press photo op....

BTW...I find this comment far more interesting actually...

You somehow failed to fully understand the "Gastarbeiter program" from the 60s that Germany used during their great industrial leap forward and mix it up with today's Syrian immigrant problem which can simply be resolved by stopping the bombings and tossing out Assad and removing Russian troops from Syrian soil....

BTW MIT does not use Kurds but rather Turkish members of the Grey Wolf...and the German BND/NKA and BfV has actively warned MIT directly that they will be arrested and deported after sentencing for spying.....MIT has signalled them they will back off....BUT German agencies are maintaining a tight surveillance on their known German agents.

Reference NSA snooping......the mission set of NSA and say the BND/BfV they all "watch" whoever they want to....this goes back to the Cold War days when they cross shared facilities and info....the strain began when the Wall fell and NSA was placed under binding German legal constraints as German was no longer "occupied"....

The strain between say NSA and BND/BfV has been that Germany is not a member of the Anglo Saxon spy info exchange program called FVEYs.....and is often excluded by the NSA in some types of info exchange forcing the BND-BfV to gather on their own...AND it still goes to the core problem that the US simply does not like to share much intel with the Germans..has been that way for years.....

This is the core reason the BND through extremely roundabout not so legal ways ways acquired the NSA PRISM lawful monitoring software program....when NSA would not share the technology with them yet claiming all of NATO must fight terrorism...

Azor...this interesting tidbit WENT fully under the Trump rants about Comey AND Trump used the letter from the Acting AG as a main reason to fire Comey....

Some journalists were puzzled by the fact the letter from Rosenstein appeared to be a collection of negative op ed reporting and second hand press comments by former proTrump FBI agents...some mentioned it but moved on in the chatter yesterday...

This now explains it...

Rosenstein was only asked to write outline of negatives re: Comey NOT letter of termination. Not on board w firing. That was all Trump/Sessions. PLAYED.

RUMINT is indicating that he is one angry individual as he has a solid reputation for being a great former FBI agent and investigator...

REMEMBER this AG ...Sessions was in fact suppose to be recused from anything touching the Russian investigation as he had also lied to Congress about his ties to the US Russian Ambassador...SO what was he doing in the firing meeting about a FBI director who was in the middle of the Russian investigation that Sessions was supposedly recused from?????

SO again the core question..just how in the heck is Trump ever to get a strategic thought through FP strategy in place for anything in the midst now of a solid chatter wall...24 X 7 X 365????

REMEMBER .....NK...now all is quiet as a mouse...remember that MOAB...IS/Taliban are still on the move...and even those TLAMs...did not impress for a second Assad and or Putin.....and that has been about it for the Trump FP efforts....

THERE is an old Syrian saying..."when a man pokes a honets nest looking for honey that man will get stung"....

Source close to investigation, cannot confirm/deny arrests as early as tomorrow...but..."Comey dismissal is a catalyst for action".

OUTLAW 09
05-13-2017, 07:23 PM
Russia's state media says "some" in #Russia view Comey's firing as a "sacrifice" for the sake of normalization of Russo-American relations.

OUTLAW 09
05-13-2017, 08:36 PM
Chertoff was mentioned on the PBS NewsHour as a possible successor to Comey. Very bad idea with his connections to corrupt Firtash.

Firtash, Ukrainian oligarch who could tie Trump to Putin/Russian intel, hired former DHS chief Michael Chertoff to help fight extradition

Chertoff, a Clinton nemesis since Whitewater, is a Republican, and now part of Firtash's high-powered legal team

Firtash's–he was also Manafort's biz partner–extradition is being fought in earnest he is out on a 174M USDs bail....

Firtash could reveal Putin/Trump/Manafort money laundering/transfer scheme–and more-of course his extradition will be fought

Firtash's Spanish arrest re: laundering $10.5mm thru companies based in CYPRUS/Virgin Islands

OUTLAW 09
05-13-2017, 08:47 PM
FBI Agents Association recommends Rep Mike Rogers to replace Comey....

The FBI Agents Association was born in the NY Field Office. Rudy Giuliani's law firm provides legal counsel...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/03/meet-donald-trump-s-top-fbi-fanboy?source=Snapzu#…

The FBI investigation spans the time during which Rep Mike Rogers was on Trump's transition team. How would that work w/him as FBI director

Rogers was fired from Trump transition team + replaced by Devin Nunes. His comm issued a report clearing Clinton of wrongdoing in Benghazi

OUTLAW 09
05-14-2017, 07:11 AM
I keep posting these two bloggers as they have repeatedly with a large R repeatedly posted "sourced" information that has been repeatedly then in fact verified by MSM....that sort of track record into the Russian Trump connection is hard to match..... first with the FISA warrant and their actual numbers, then onto the Grand Jury meetings, then to the FBI raid on a major GOP Consulting Company with ties to Page and Manafort

Claude Taylor‏#
@TrueFactsStated
@LouiseMensch and I are reporting that a sealed indictment has been issued against Trump by FISA court to serve as the basis of Impeachment.

Wanted to get initial information out-we understand that Grand Jury under auspices of FISA court has issued the sealed indictment.

This is referring to the very first FISA warrant issued to investigate the two email servers...one in Alfa Bank Moscow and one in Trump Tower...which then led to other FISA warrants on individuals who might have had any connections to Russian's or their black money...

This is exactly a clear and concise 96 word statement that both journalists wrote and then gone over by their two different sources prior to releasing it just to make sure their sources agreed with the statement.

Read exactly the words...do not try to interpret.....take the words at face value.


By Louise Mensch and Claude Taylor
EXCLUSIVE Sealed Indictment Granted Against Trump
Separate sources with links to the intelligence and justice communities have stated that a sealed indictment has been granted against Donald Trump.
While it is understood that the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution means that, until Mr. Trump is impeached, he cannot be prosecuted, sources say that the indictment is intended by the FBI and prosecutors in the Justice Department to form the basis of Mr. Trump’s impeachment. The indictment is, perhaps uniquely, not intended or expected to be used for prosecution, sources say, because of the constitutional position of the President.They vote true bill which means indict. FISA material is used all the time by GJ to indict including ones dealing w natsec. GJ may have been convened elsewhere yet acted under FISC

Louise Mensch‏
Verifizierter Account
#@LouiseMensch 5 Std.
My own, and not necessarily @TrueFactsStated, sources, suggest indictment can be unsealed and the Sgt at Arms Senate used before any pros.

OUTLAW 09
05-14-2017, 11:29 AM
Appears that when the Trump WH stated they were angry the Russians lied to them about who was going to take official photos....Trump WH still did not answer just why US Press Corp was not involved BUT the Russian TASS was....

NOW comes the Russian answer......

Russia: "@WhiteHouse received full info on RU press @ Lavrov meeting, never told us it didn't want photos published; not true it's unhappy"

SO is the Trump WH bascially lying to the US MSM just to cover what they really wanted a true photo op with Russian FM signalling an intent to "warm up" Russian relations as Trump promised?????

OUTLAW 09
05-14-2017, 12:34 PM
Richard Spencer, who has links to Russian fascists, retweets "Russia is our friend" - chanted at white supremacy event in Charlottesville.

Massive proTrump supporter on Twitter....

This was organized by neo-Nazis Richard Spencer & Nathan Damigo, practicing their Hitler-style speeches
(10:30)

https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/8ultra right party...63424848726556674#

Torch-wielding white supremacists & neo-Nazis at confederate statue in Charlottesville chant "Blood and soil" and "Russia is our friend"

He had been extremely active in the right before the French election in #marconleaks Wikileak email dump in support to Le Pen of the Front National

OUTLAW 09
05-14-2017, 01:52 PM
.@mashagessen makes a powerful plea to *call things what they are.*

All of us in journos should read and heed it.

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/05/13/the-autocrats-language/#

OUTLAW 09
05-14-2017, 04:14 PM
Richard Spencer, who has links to Russian fascists, retweets "Russia is our friend" - chanted at white supremacy event in Charlottesville.

Massive proTrump supporter on Twitter....

This was organized by neo-Nazis Richard Spencer & Nathan Damigo, practicing their Hitler-style speeches
(10:30)

https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/8ultra right party...63424848726556674#

Torch-wielding white supremacists & neo-Nazis at confederate statue in Charlottesville chant "Blood and soil" and "Russia is our friend"

He had been extremely active in the right before the French election in #marconleaks Wikileak email dump in support to Le Pen of the Front National

"What brings us together is we are white," he said at one of two protests Saturday in Charlottesville over plans to remove the Confederate monument.

OUTLAW 09
05-15-2017, 04:38 AM
Russian non linear warfare just continues onward and upward......

Clapper: Comey firing 'another victory' for Russia
http://politi.co/2rg4rtd

Some thoughts on the real winner of the Comey debacle. "Trump Fires Comey and Putin Smiles"
https://nyti.ms/2qaX7RH

OUTLAW 09
05-15-2017, 04:49 AM
To understand this particular thread one must understand Russian political warfare...

Political warfare
From Wikipedia



Russian political warfare is driven and supported by the doctrine "non linear warfare" WHICH has inherently TWO key cornerstones......

1. information warfare
2. cyber warfare

BUT the Russians have an additional spinn on it...the heavy use of black money via international wash machines.......SO....one can summarize the Russian political warfare as a propaganda, disinformation driven project supported by key use of cyber warfare using black money to pay for it as well as a form of corruption to buy influence OFTEN using Russian gangs as "cut outs"......

The current defined Putin/Lavrov geo political goals are....

1. damage and discredit NATO
2. damage and discredit EU
3. totally disconnect US from Europe and ME

Anyone that posts here is free to dispute this summation.





[/B]Putin defines the US democracy as being neo liberalism and all it's evils.....ie gay rights......women's rights....globalization...sanctions.....free and open elections.....competing political parties....and human rights...AND he then bundles this all up is his projection that the US is using this to drive a "regime change in Russia"....THUS the constant stream of comments coming from Russia and Putin that the US is at war with Russia and Russia is simply defending itself with all means....

NOW this is the staging for the ongoing US political debate around Russian connections to Trump and a large number of his associates in a major FBI CI investigation....

MEANING IS Russia via Putin actually conducting a full blown political war against the US using all the available means of non linear warfare....

YES he is and that is why suddenly all actions involving Trump and his associates can in fact be linked into this thread as the use of propaganda, disinformation, fake news, cyber attacks....AND money in the accusations against Trump and his associates TAKE on a new light....especially since the FBI has defined that investigation as a CI investigation...

In light of the above then this takes on far more significance for Americans and shows just how deeply Russia have gone to subvert US democracy....

Sealed indictments out of Eastern District of Virginia-under Dana Boente. Trump, Manafort and Flynn-among others under sealed indictment.

EDVA under Boente = Federal criminal court. Indictment = probable cause (low bar). Sealed = targets haven't been officially notified yet.

Next steps for Manafort/Flynn would be arrest and federal prosecution.

Possible next steps for Trump = DOJ recomends impeachment to Senate/House Committees. House drafts & votes on articles of Impeachment.

Summed up by the former DNI Director.....
State of the Union‏
Verifizierter Account
#@CNNSotu 20 Min.
On #CNNSOTU w/ @jaketapper Fmr. DNI Clapper says "our institutions are under assault." 'The Constitutional checks and balances are being eroded"....

Fmr. Dir. of National National Intelligence James Clapper: "Our institutions are under assault internally" From the president? "Exactly."

BTW...now Newsweek is picking up the thread that there are sealed indictments being held by a Federal Court....first MSM in picking this up.....

Update: I previously had reported that according to a source close to investigation, 28-42 individuals were targeted for indictment

That same source has just confirmed that number is now signicantlly higher-with upwards of 70 individuals/entities targeted

An Israeli twitter account associated with Israeli intel is stating 160 to 180 possible indictments when all is said and done.....

OUTLAW 09
05-15-2017, 06:32 AM
To understand this particular thread one must understand Russian political warfare...

Political warfare
From Wikipedia



Russian political warfare is driven and supported by the doctrine "non linear warfare" WHICH has inherently TWO key cornerstones......

1. information warfare
2. cyber warfare

BUT the Russians have an additional spinn on it...the heavy use of black money via international wash machines.......SO....one can summarize the Russian political warfare as a propaganda, disinformation driven project supported by key use of cyber warfare using black money to pay for it as well as a form of corruption to buy influence OFTEN using Russian gangs as "cut outs"......

The current defined Putin/Lavrov geo political goals are....

1. damage and discredit NATO
2. damage and discredit EU
3. totally disconnect US from Europe and ME

Anyone that posts here is free to dispute this summation.





[/B]Putin defines the US democracy as being neo liberalism and all it's evils.....ie gay rights......women's rights....globalization...sanctions.....free and open elections.....competing political parties....and human rights...AND he then bundles this all up is his projection that the US is using this to drive a "regime change in Russia"....THUS the constant stream of comments coming from Russia and Putin that the US is at war with Russia and Russia is simply defending itself with all means....

NOW this is the staging for the ongoing US political debate around Russian connections to Trump and a large number of his associates in a major FBI CI investigation....

MEANING IS Russia via Putin actually conducting a full blown political war against the US using all the available means of non linear warfare....

YES he is and that is why suddenly all actions involving Trump and his associates can in fact be linked into this thread as the use of propaganda, disinformation, fake news, cyber attacks....AND money in the accusations against Trump and his associates TAKE on a new light....especially since the FBI has defined that investigation as a CI investigation...

In light of the above then this takes on far more significance for Americans and shows just how deeply Russia have gone to subvert US democracy....

Sealed indictments out of Eastern District of Virginia-under Dana Boente. Trump, Manafort and Flynn-among others under sealed indictment.

EDVA under Boente = Federal criminal court. Indictment = probable cause (low bar). Sealed = targets haven't been officially notified yet.

Next steps for Manafort/Flynn would be arrest and federal prosecution.

Possible next steps for Trump = DOJ recomends impeachment to Senate/House Committees. House drafts & votes on articles of Impeachment.

Summed up by the former DNI Director.....
State of the Union‏
Verifizierter Account
#@CNNSotu 20 Min.
On #CNNSOTU w/ @jaketapper Fmr. DNI Clapper says "our institutions are under assault." 'The Constitutional checks and balances are being eroded"....

Fmr. Dir. of National National Intelligence James Clapper: "Our institutions are under assault internally" From the president? "Exactly."

From an article in Wapo.com this morning actually tends to support the simple fact that Russia is driving a political war straight at the US for a number of reasons...lifting sanctions is one of them as the sanctions are in fact seriously impacting the Russian economy....

Political chaos in Washington is a return on investment for Moscow

President Trump’s decision to fire James Comey as FBI director was the latest in a series of destabilizing jolts to core institutions of the U.S. government, actions that, although driven by the president, have in some ways amplified the effect Russia sought to achieve with its effort to undermine the 2016 presidential race. And while the Kremlin may have hoped for sanctions relief from the Trump administration, the tumult in the United States is a welcome alternative.


In the article you will find no reference to the terms political warfare and or non linear warfare...why is that when it is literally slapping you in the face....??

Has MSM forgotten how to state facts and correct terms to describe actual events, there is nothing that says you must be politically correct when you are under a new form of attack??

IMHO what we are actually seeing in the daily news cvcle is a not so subtle non linear war being fought around the Russian connections FBI CI investigation...if we take all the recent posts/articles from both MSM and social media...there are three Grand Juries hard at work...there are sealed warrants issued by Federal Grand Juries and there has been a FBI RICO based raid of a main GOP Consulting Company and the US FinCen is providing financial records on unnamed individuals....and there has been a Cyprus investigation home of most of the black money washing Russian banks...AND now the Senate is asking for those "tapes" even Trump himself tweeted about...

It is an interesting shadow boxing non linear war conducted by the FBI/IC following criminal and CI issues...and a sitting US President that believes the Russians never engaged in a non linear war supporting their political war against the US...

Actually a new thesis of what non linear warfare really is and or is not...former FBI Director Comey once made a statement that caught little attention during Congressional hearings....paraphased it goes like this....."some people will be totally surprised when the story comes out that what they believed they had be told and or read was not the truth"... he then repeated that in far more detail a week later in an interview.

What is interesting is that we have seen a distinct drop off in Russian info warfare bots driving propaganda and or disinformation into the US social media scene...the drop off is noticeable....as the FBI/IC investigation has picked up the pace and with the firing of Comey...

BTW...there is an interesting saying....."intelligence has finished their jobs when it is moved to a judicial setting".....we are now at that stage of this non linear warfare game....

OUTLAW 09
05-15-2017, 07:28 AM
Reference the US non linear war being fought by some Americans..one has to wonder sometimes if it is possible to have a form of smiling fascism in the US...??

Trump has introduced the concept of "loyalty" to him as if we are back in the King Henry the 8th days.....EVEN Trump has forgotten that he gave an oath to defend the US Constitution and that all Federal employees have a similar oath but to also defend the Constitution from enemies domestic and foreign....

BTW that phase defend the Constitution from enemies domestic and foreign is not in the oath the US President takes.....

For years US white nationalist and white supremacists have remained largely in the shadows but with the election of Trump we have seen a sudden acceptance
of their beliefs and we have even seen their meddling in the democractic elections in other countries....ie France and Netherlands and now more recently in Germany...and not a warning word out of the US President...

OUTLAW 09
05-15-2017, 07:50 AM
.@PreetBharara, how are the American People getting justice? $6M on a $250M fraud case? No admission of wrongdoing?

What is interesting is that this was a Russian tax fraud case where the US had solid evidence and was already going to court on it after long Russian delays....

THEN DoJ under the Trump AG Sessions settled suddenly for 6M USD instead of the 250M USDs they would have been able to win in a full court hearing....

WHY did they settle so suddenly with a set of Russian charged clients and why settle for a 244M USD loss to the US Government....AND a normal American charged with tax fraud would have gone to jail and lost all their assets...

Preet Bharara was the Federal Prosecutor handling this case AND suddenly he was fired by Trump and Sessions.....and no new Federal Prosecutors have been named to replace the fired 48....

BTW...this case had close tie ins to the Trump Organization....

Make sense to anyone??

OUTLAW 09
05-15-2017, 08:02 AM
Flynn subpoena sets up battle between White House, Congress
http://hill.cm/DXKXJwv

OUTLAW 09
05-15-2017, 08:04 AM
Who is Mr.Cohen? Trump’s attorney received $350,000 for the Izmaylovskaya Criminal Group — Felshtinsky




U.S. President Donald Trump’s personal attorney Michael Cohen received a check for $350,000 in 1999 for one of the leaders of the Izmaylovskaya Organized Crime Group. It was reported in an exclusive material for "GORDON" by Yuri Felshtinsky, a Russian American historian and the author of the book “Blowing up Russia: Terror from Within”. Based on more than a hundred archival records of American courts, which are open to the public in the US, the expert maintains that the Russian hockey player Vladimir Malakhov was used in the scheme, and the whole story was revealed accidentally because of a check, which became the subject of litigation. All the supporting documents are available in the editorial office.

http://m.gordonua.com/english/news/exclusiveenglish/who-is-mrcohen-trumps-attorney-received-350000-for-the-izmaylovskaya-criminal-group-felshtinsky-181620.html

OUTLAW 09
05-15-2017, 08:51 AM
New York Attorney General investigating Manafort's real estate deals: report
http://hill.cm/

This goes to the 12M USDs he received in Ukrainian/Russian black money payments for his consulting work in Ukraine....

Part of an ongoing RICO investigation and ties to Russia....

OUTLAW 09
05-15-2017, 09:06 AM
Kissinger's firm doesn't disclose its client list–threatened to sue Congress when subpoenaed for it–did $ flow from Kremlin to Kissinger?

Kissinger Associates still has never filed FANA on any of their lobbying efforts...during the Russian military annexation of Crimea Kissinger led an unofficial delegation in Finland looking for a political solution and suggested that Russia pay a yearly "rental fee to Ukraine for Crimea".....shot down......

OUTLAW 09
05-16-2017, 08:23 AM
Reference the ongoing FBI CI/criminal investigation into Trump WH and Russians connections...

I'm told that hearings at the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA) unrelated to TrumpRussia are being postponed or rescheduled...so something important has pushed the standard planned court appointments aside for something else??

It was the EDVA that ordered the recent FBI raid on a GOP Consulting Company.

Claude Taylor‏#@TrueFactsStated
1. Followers know I've tried to avoid an exact timeline as to when to expect arrests. I'm now receiving word that it may be soon. Here's why
2. In order to avoid any possible misinterpretation, I'm going to give exact word for word quote of what I was told. "Rumor has it the AUSA
3. has signed off on the tactical & logistical plan to take numerous subjects into custody". That's it. Word for word.

OUTLAW 09
05-16-2017, 08:37 AM
First, Trump says it's "fake news". Minutes later, he confirms the info is coming from the intel community - thus verifying that it's true.

IMHO it is really hard to see who is running a better non linear war...Russia and or Trump???


Preet Bharara‏
Verified account
@PreetBharara
Citizens working together are more powerful than US Attorneys. And presidents.

Right now social media journalism is literally scooping MSM on the Russian non linear war and are actively as well pushing back on it when the government is not engaging...

OUTLAW 09
05-16-2017, 08:45 AM
Just saying......

WH is rebutting points that weren't in @washingtonpost report, which didn't allege prez revealed sources & methods. (USAToday)

Russian Propaganda 6Ds Principles....we should never forget them when reading anything these days in the "post truth era".....

Distract...Dismay...Distort.....Deflect...ALL designed to create Doubt and Distrust...

OUTLAW 09
05-16-2017, 08:50 AM
Russian senator on alleged Trump leak to Lavrov: "Sergei Viktorovich is a gifted person… but this is the first time I heard he’s a spy too."

OUTLAW 09
05-16-2017, 08:54 AM
Russian oligarch Deripaska sues @AP for their story of him having close ties with head of Trump campaign.
https://twitter.com/mediazzzona/status/864392619237015552#

Smokescreen as this has been proven to be in fact a valid point..there was contact and close contact to Flynn, Page, Manafort....

NOT so sure this Russian oligarch really wants the "discovery phase to apply to him" as then he must answer all questions and provide far more details than have been released and or available on open source....and all under oath....in a US court not a Russian court...

OUTLAW 09
05-16-2017, 09:06 AM
Wow is just about all I can say....

OUTLAW 09
05-16-2017, 01:12 PM
First, Trump says it's "fake news". Minutes later, he confirms the info is coming from the intel community - thus verifying that it's true.

IMHO it is really hard to see who is running a better non linear war...Russia and or Trump???


Preet Bharara‏
Verified account
@PreetBharara
Citizens working together are more powerful than US Attorneys. And presidents.

Right now social media journalism is literally scooping MSM on the Russian non linear war and are actively as well pushing back on it when the government is not engaging...

Russia's @mfa_russia spokes tells everyone not to read American newspapers, as they're "harmful and dangerous."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-zakharova-idUSKCN18C17Z?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Co ntent&utm_content=591af8ff04d30124151d8664&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter#

NOW Fox News in supporting Trumps right to disclose highly classified CODE WORD intel to Russia "quotes the spokesperson for the Russian FM"....

BREAKING: Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman denies reports that Trump revealed classified information to senior officials.

Trump and Putin really do need to get their tweets on the same sheet of music.....

Sr. German lawmaker: If Trump passes intel to others "Trump becomes a security risk for the entire western world."
http://apne.ws/2pGt7hs#

OUTLAW 09
05-16-2017, 01:34 PM
The upcoming NATO meeting will be all about the weather and where are the best places to eat and what tour one will take...ISIS what the heck is that...Syria not sure where that is exactly....Putin who......?

The Latest: Kremlin calls reports that Trump shared classified info "nonsense," Top German lawmaker expresses alarm.
http://apne.ws/2pG3EF3

realDonaldTrump
I have been asking Director Comey & others, from the beginning of my administration, to find the LEAKERS in the intelligence community.....

NOW this has just become a one heck of a major farce....
WH/NSC spokesman Mike Anton emphatically denies that Pres Trump's tweets today confirm disclosure of classified material to Russia.

WaPo reports Trump's team wanted "full transcript" of mtg w Russians ltd to small grp to contain intel leak. Sure sounds like there r tapes

SO who decided within the USG IC that determined this had happened and how did they know about the meeting....

Because it was a breach that could cost people who trust the United States their lives.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKCN18B2MX?il=0#…

NOW Fox News in supporting Trumps right to disclose highly classified CODE WORD intel to Russia "quotes the spokesperson for the Russian FM"....

BREAKING: Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman denies reports that Trump revealed classified information to senior officials.

Trump and Putin really do need to get their tweets on the same sheet of music.....

OUTLAW 09
05-16-2017, 01:52 PM
Sr. German lawmaker: If Trump passes intel to others "Trump becomes a security risk for the entire western world."
http://apne.ws/2pGt7hs#

Middle East allies at physical and political risk from Trump leak
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/16/middle-east-allies-at-physical-and-political-risk-from-trump-leak-russia?CMP=share_btn_tw#

OUTLAW 09
05-16-2017, 03:43 PM
Jordan most likely provided the intelligence (re: WaPo report). here's my Oct. 2014 @NRO -
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/390431/intelligence-and-islamic-state-tom-rogan#

Public support for impeaching Trump (48%) has now surpassed Nixon's impeachment #'s 16 mos. after Watergate break-in (10/73).
via @ppppolls

OUTLAW 09
05-16-2017, 03:48 PM
The Associated Press‏
BREAKING: European official to AP: Country might stop sharing intel with US if Trump gave classified info to Russian diplomats.

Azor
05-16-2017, 03:55 PM
Azor...so now will you finally stop defending Trump and his failed Syrian policies as there are none....+

Azor...now tell me that this US President does not have some serious issues..

Outlaw,

I am not defending Trump, nor have I identified any major differences in policy on Syria from Obama, other than perhaps more aggression.

Please stay on-topic and get off your soapbox.

The details of the alleged secret intelligence leak seem to revolve around Daesh plots to bring down airliners using laptops, which has already been a focus of various laptop bans. As usual with the Washington Post, we must rely upon anonymous diplomatic and intelligence sources (serving and not), from the same communities that endorsed Trump's rival and which have continued to attempt to de-legitimize his election victory.

You never questioned why Steele would burn his sources with the "Piss Dossier" and yet here you are rumor-mongering like a jealous villager at a witchcraft trial...Of course, the dossier has been forgotten and the conspiracy now centers upon Flynn and this, which are very, very different accusations.

By now, you should probably be aware that few here probably believe that you are merely a principled private citizen, whether of the US, EU or both.

You have shamelessly pitched every single initiative that the Trans-Atlantic establishment has come up with, whether to be more muscular in Ukraine and Syria, to more confrontational with Iran (conveniently avoiding the issue of the JCPOA), to keeping the EU together at all costs, to demanding more US commitment to Europe while conveniently ignoring the unpopular 2% target. Now that the establishment has decided to follow the anti-Obama playbook (smearing him as a crypto-Muslim foreign-born anti-American), you have jumped in with both feet.

I don't mind if you want to be a one-man botnet for the most vain and venal woman to go for power since Jiang Qing, just knock off the hot air.

We were told for more than a decade that the cyber-realm belonged to Russian and Chinese hackers, and that the Iranians, North Koreans and others were formidable as well. Then of course we learned that the NSA had hacked the planet, and was listening in at the Zhongnanhai; that the NSA could cause a centrifuge to self-destruct; and that no U.S. ally or neutral was immune from eavesdropping. But how else to keep secrets in an open and free society than to play down one's strengths, play up the enemy's strengths and otherwise disinform?

Quite frankly, I think the U.S. has as much catching-up to do in the cyber realm as it did with the Bomber and Missile Gaps, and your prolific commentary is attached to "Exhibit A".

OUTLAW 09
05-16-2017, 04:13 PM
This source has been highly accurate in the past reporting...


The U.S. Marshals Service presented a plan to a senior Justice Department official yesterday for the service of warrants in the Trump-Russia inquiry, separate sources with links to the intelligence and law enforcement communities report.

The extensive plan was approved yesterday by a senior Justice Department official who is closely involved in prosecuting the case.

Sources say that the extensive plan, multiple pages in length, covered not only the serving of warrants, but logistical arrangements such as the closure of streets, if necessary.

They further report that while timing is uncertain, such plans are normally only presented and approved when arrests are imminent.

Patribotics knows the identity of the senior justice official who approved the plan, and the court in which it was approved. We are redacting that information for now.

Edited:
I want to acknowledge the following tweets by Claude Taylor made last night. My sources support his sources (and go further). He has asked me to reproduce them exactly as written.
1. Followers know I’ve tried to avoid an exact timeline as to when to expect arrests. I’m now receiving word that it may be soon. Here’s why
2. In order to avoid any possible misinterpretation, I’m going to give exact word for word quote of what I was told. “Rumor has it the AUSA
3. has signed off on the tactical & logistical plan to take numerous subjects into custody”. That’s it. Word for word.


BREAKING: AP Source: CIA director to brief House intel committee Tuesday on Trump sharing classified information with Russians.

BUT is there more to this briefing as he did not offer to take it to the Senate????

OUTLAW 09
05-16-2017, 04:22 PM
If this is true and it comes from Trump's own NSA so it must be.....

McMaster said Trump wasn't aware of the source of the intelligence he gave to Russia. And he shared it unplanned, so winging it.

McMaster tap danced with the best of them just now.....he elegantly kept deflecting the main premise of the Wapo article...that in fact highly classified critical ally intel was given to the Russians with Trump not even understanding just how critical it was....

He kept going back and stating no methods and procedures were revealed.....BUT was never mentioned by the Wapo article....

Stunning comment by McMaster: Pay no attention to the sharing sensitive intelligence with the Russians; the scandal is the leaks.

THIS is a blatant lie on the part of the NSA...
McMaster says the information President Trump shared is “nothing you would not know from open-source reporting”

OSINT does not include CODE WORD TS/SCI/SAP information....

McMaster briefing appeared to be cut short after press aide entered room with note.

OUTLAW 09
05-16-2017, 04:38 PM
If this is true and it comes from Trump's own NSA so it must be.....

McMaster said Trump wasn't aware of the source of the intelligence he gave to Russia. And he shared it unplanned, so winging it.

McMaster tap danced with the best of them just now.....he elegantly kept deflecting the main premise of the Wapo article...that in fact highly classified critical ally intel was given to the Russians with Trump not even understanding just how critical it was....

He kept going back and stating no methods and procedures were revealed.....BUT was never mentioned by the Wapo article....

Stunning comment by McMaster: Pay no attention to the sharing sensitive intelligence with the Russians; the scandal is the leaks.

THIS is a blatant lie on the part of the NSA...
McMaster says the information President Trump shared is “nothing you would not know from open-source reporting”

OSINT does not include CODE WORD TS/SCI/SAP information....

McMaster briefing appeared to be cut short after press aide entered room with note.

There is a serious indication that the leak came from inside the Trump WH by a staunch proTrump supporter who felt the intel released had actually gone to far and he felt knew that in fact Trump knew that ......

OUTLAW 09
05-17-2017, 04:07 AM
Outlaw,

I am not defending Trump, nor have I identified any major differences in policy on Syria from Obama, other than perhaps more aggression.

Please stay on-topic and get off your soapbox.

The details of the alleged secret intelligence leak seem to revolve around Daesh plots to bring down airliners using laptops, which has already been a focus of various laptop bans. As usual with the Washington Post, we must rely upon anonymous diplomatic and intelligence sources (serving and not), from the same communities that endorsed Trump's rival and which have continued to attempt to de-legitimize his election victory.

You never questioned why Steele would burn his sources with the "Piss Dossier" and yet here you are rumor-mongering like a jealous villager at a witchcraft trial...Of course, the dossier has been forgotten and the conspiracy now centers upon Flynn and this, which are very, very different accusations.

By now, you should probably be aware that few here probably believe that you are merely a principled private citizen, whether of the US, EU or both.

You have shamelessly pitched every single initiative that the Trans-Atlantic establishment has come up with, whether to be more muscular in Ukraine and Syria, to more confrontational with Iran (conveniently avoiding the issue of the JCPOA), to keeping the EU together at all costs, to demanding more US commitment to Europe while conveniently ignoring the unpopular 2% target. Now that the establishment has decided to follow the anti-Obama playbook (smearing him as a crypto-Muslim foreign-born anti-American), you have jumped in with both feet.

I don't mind if you want to be a one-man botnet for the most vain and venal woman to go for power since Jiang Qing, just knock off the hot air.

We were told for more than a decade that the cyber-realm belonged to Russian and Chinese hackers, and that the Iranians, North Koreans and others were formidable as well. Then of course we learned that the NSA had hacked the planet, and was listening in at the Zhongnanhai; that the NSA could cause a centrifuge to self-destruct; and that no U.S. ally or neutral was immune from eavesdropping. But how else to keep secrets in an open and free society than to play down one's strengths, play up the enemy's strengths and otherwise disinform?

Quite frankly, I think the U.S. has as much catching-up to do in the cyber realm as it did with the Bomber and Missile Gaps, and your prolific commentary is attached to "Exhibit A".

1. Steele did not burn his sources

2. Trump burned critical intel provided by field agents of a intel agency friendly to the US

NO one has the right President or no President...NO right to reveal CODE WORD information as then you are explicitly putting that field agent in serious danger of being killed....

EXHIBIT A....

The New York Times‏
Verifizierter Account
#@nytimes 10 Std.
Breaking News: Israel provided the intelligence that President Trump shared with Russia, officials said

German intel types I spoke to yesterday are in fact now throttling back IS info to the US out of fear that Trump "leaks" it and it comes from their field agents as well...


You have shamelessly pitched every single initiative that the Trans-Atlantic establishment has come up with, whether to be more muscular in Ukraine and Syria, to more confrontational with Iran (conveniently avoiding the issue of the JCPOA), to keeping the EU together at all costs, to demanding more US commitment to Europe while conveniently ignoring the unpopular 2% target. Now that the establishment has decided to follow the anti-Obama playbook (smearing him as a crypto-Muslim foreign-born anti-American), you have jumped in with both feet.

Thank you for revealing your solid alt right opinions....have known they were there for awhile but you hide them nicely behind text book supported answers....looking like a true academic which you are not....

Sometimes accepting what others who in fact have true ground reality have to say which is not the standard publicly info flow should be listened to especially by those that do not have true ground reality...

OUTLAW 09
05-17-2017, 09:38 AM
Interesting in that social media journalists (2) have been reporting on this for over two weeks now and it is just now getting picked up by US MSM.....

NBC reporting federal subpoena issued related to Paul Manafort over $3.5 million loan he received the day after leaving Trump campaign.

PART of the FBI CI investigation into Russian ties between Trump WH advisors and Russia has been following a RICO money laundering trail....

Was used to purchase NYC real estate the favorite Russian way to hide money laundering....

OUTLAW 09
05-17-2017, 09:40 AM
Interesting chart.....

Azor
05-17-2017, 04:42 PM
1. Steele did not burn his sources

On the contrary, weren't you reporting that more than one had been assassinated or otherwise died in mysterious circumstances? The Russian kompromat story has quietly vanished from the news cycle despite its staggering importance if true. Now, it is about Flynn and obstruction of justice...


2. Trump burned critical intel provided by field agents of a intel agency friendly to the US...

EXHIBIT A....

The New York Times‏

Since when has the Gray Lady exhibited anything other than antipathy for Trump's candidacy and presidency? If the secret intelligence is so critical to inter-agency cooperation, how could the Times be given any evidence to verify this story, even if it chose not to publish all of the details?

Logic, mi amigo: logic.


German intel types I spoke to yesterday are in fact now throttling back IS info to the US out of fear that Trump "leaks" it and it comes from their field agents as well...

So if the Germans withhold intelligence on a Daesh operative who kills or injures U.S. citizens, they will blame Trump and hope that Berlin isn't leveled again? Is that it?

Aren't German intelligence officers busy in Iraq and Syria trying to determine which ex-Daesh members from liberated areas are trying to blend in with the migratory flows to Europe? The Iraqi courts admittedly are giving most young men a pass as there is little evidence to charge them.

You do realize that you're trying to act as a corroborating source for the report on the German lawmaker who suggested a moratorium on intelligence sharing, right? Between running a cyber-security firm, traipsing around Brandenburg, meeting with all manner of insiders and posting on SWC/SWJ, when do you sleep?

By the way, I have a question for your friends at German intelligence: do they still keep in touch with their adopted freedom fighters in Kosovo? Or are narcotics, human and organ trafficking not as interesting as national liberation? Between the ~10,000 PKK operatives in Germany and the ~10,000 MIT officers/Grey Wolves, whose side do they fall on? ;)


Thank you for revealing your solid alt right opinions....have known they were there for awhile but you hide them nicely behind text book supported answers....looking like a true academic which you are not....

Sometimes accepting what others who in fact have true ground reality have to say which is not the standard publicly info flow should be listened to especially by those that do not have true ground reality...

If writing in coherent sentences with proper punctuation, spelling and grammar count as "true academic", then the bar must have been lowered since I last stalked the halls of higher education.

So, any person that is not breathlessly in favor of your Progressivist and Supranational vision of the future is "sold alt right"?

You seem to share Putin's opinion that democracy should be managed. Between Brexit and the EU's tough road ahead, perhaps there is a case to be made for integration of the Anglosphere. It would be lovely to see those countries - where true liberal democracy is not a passing fashion, a means to a collective end, or imposed with strategic bombing - try their hand at an alternative bloc.

OUTLAW 09
05-17-2017, 05:22 PM
When chasing Russian info warfare...chase the money.....

Russian state-run bank financed deal involving Trump hotel partner
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-state-run-bank-financed-deal-involving-trump-hotel-partner-1495031708#

OUTLAW 09
05-17-2017, 05:35 PM
Vladimir Putin says he can give record of the conversation between Donald Trump and Sergei Lavrov to the U.S. senate and congress insists NO classified information was given to Lavrov.....

APPEARS Putin is lying again as normal......

Well this is a pretty startling detail
http://nbcnews.to/2pWTawg#

OUTLAW 09
05-17-2017, 05:39 PM
On the contrary, weren't you reporting that more than one had been assassinated or otherwise died in mysterious circumstances? The Russian kompromat story has quietly vanished from the news cycle despite its staggering importance if true. Now, it is about Flynn and obstruction of justice...



Since when has the Gray Lady exhibited anything other than antipathy for Trump's candidacy and presidency? If the secret intelligence is so critical to inter-agency cooperation, how could the Times be given any evidence to verify this story, even if it chose not to publish all of the details?

Logic, mi amigo: logic.



So if the Germans withhold intelligence on a Daesh operative who kills or injures U.S. citizens, they will blame Trump and hope that Berlin isn't leveled again? Is that it?

Aren't German intelligence officers busy in Iraq and Syria trying to determine which ex-Daesh members from liberated areas are trying to blend in with the migratory flows to Europe? The Iraqi courts admittedly are giving most young men a pass as there is little evidence to charge them.

You do realize that you're trying to act as a corroborating source for the report on the German lawmaker who suggested a moratorium on intelligence sharing, right? Between running a cyber-security firm, traipsing around Brandenburg, meeting with all manner of insiders and posting on SWC/SWJ, when do you sleep?

By the way, I have a question for your friends at German intelligence: do they still keep in touch with their adopted freedom fighters in Kosovo? Or are narcotics, human and organ trafficking not as interesting as national liberation? Between the ~10,000 PKK operatives in Germany and the ~10,000 MIT officers/Grey Wolves, whose side do they fall on? ;)



If writing in coherent sentences with proper punctuation, spelling and grammar count as "true academic", then the bar must have been lowered since I last stalked the halls of higher education.

So, any person that is not breathlessly in favor of your Progressivist and Supranational vision of the future is "sold alt right"?

You seem to share Putin's opinion that democracy should be managed. Between Brexit and the EU's tough road ahead, perhaps there is a case to be made for integration of the Anglosphere. It would be lovely to see those countries - where true liberal democracy is not a passing fashion, a means to a collective end, or imposed with strategic bombing - try their hand at an alternative bloc.

Vladimir Putin says he can give record of the conversation between Donald Trump and Sergei Lavrov to the U.S. senate and congress insists NO classified information was given to Lavrov.....

APPEARS Putin is lying again as normal......

Well this is a pretty startling detail
http://nbcnews.to/2pWTawg#

OUTLAW 09
05-17-2017, 05:51 PM
Azor...when you have alot of time as ones and zeros are working their magic on a test run...then you have time for this...beside it allows one alot of time to research social engineering in order to understand hackers or and Russian propaganda

You fail to realize just how many true "Grey Beards" are still in the game in this area....and one cannot dismiss years of ground reality experience in this field and related fields...


You do realize that you're trying to act as a corroborating source for the report on the German lawmaker who suggested a moratorium on intelligence sharing, right? Between running a cyber-security firm, traipsing around Brandenburg, meeting with all manner of insiders and posting on SWC/SWJ, when do you sleep?

Besides you might be surprised who these days are working cyber security...

Lastly if you are reading the Russian cyber thread you will see a number of posts on US proTrump alt right white nationalists who are openly supporting European white nationalists and or neo Nazi's.....AND tying into the Russian info war machine as well....

NOW drop back to the year 1986 when I was asked by German intelligence to check with US intelligence and see if they could assist the Germans in tracking 14M USDs that had been flowing into Germany and into neo Nazi bank accounts..FROM US banks.....they gave me the print out weighting in those days about two pounds of paper records...

And it was passed on....response from the USG IC...we cannot provide anything due to privacy issues....14M USDs....and that every six to nine months....AND all from US neo Nazi sources...THIS was 1986....

REMEMBER intel exchanges are sometimes built on trust and the willingness to share and the US is known even today to not be great "sharers".....

BTW in that same year approximately 6 TONS of Nazi propaganda had flowed into Germany and was seized and destroyed.....

ALL from Lincoln Nebraska.....home of who????

OUTLAW 09
05-17-2017, 05:57 PM
Israel as the source of the intelligence has been now confirmed ......
passed to NYTs....


Times‏
Since when has the Gray Lady exhibited anything other than antipathy for Trump's candidacy and presidency? If the secret intelligence is so critical to inter-agency cooperation, how could the Times be given any evidence to verify this story, even if it chose not to publish all of the details?


THIS is an amazing statement as everyone knows literally all of the MSM never really questioned Trump on much of anything....social media was the only real investigating and publishing group pushing against Trump....

OUTLAW 09
05-17-2017, 05:59 PM
Old saying...when chasing Russian info warfare...chase the money....

Russian State-Run Bank Financed Deal Involving Trump Hotel Partner - WSJ
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-state-run-bank-financed-deal-involving-trump-hotel-partner-1495031708#

OUTLAW 09
05-17-2017, 06:05 PM
Azor.....

On the eve of his trip to Saudi, here is what POTUS had to say about it last year:

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 04:41 AM
I had previously posted a chain of comments on this ......

"Family of slain DNC staffer demands retractions from Fox News, local TV station" (Via @oliverdarcy)
http://cnnmon.ie/2pXytjF

Notice just how this fake news is supported by right wing blogsite....
David A. Clarke, Jr.‏
Verifizierter Account
#
@SheriffClarke

I admit I do not know all the facts here but as a former homicide detective, was he killed because he knew too much?

He was nominated by Trump as Asst Director to Homeland Security....

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 05:54 AM
On the contrary, weren't you reporting that more than one had been assassinated or otherwise died in mysterious circumstances? The Russian kompromat story has quietly vanished from the news cycle despite its staggering importance if true. Now, it is about Flynn and obstruction of justice...



Since when has the Gray Lady exhibited anything other than antipathy for Trump's candidacy and presidency? If the secret intelligence is so critical to inter-agency cooperation, how could the Times be given any evidence to verify this story, even if it chose not to publish all of the details?

Logic, mi amigo: logic.



So if the Germans withhold intelligence on a Daesh operative who kills or injures U.S. citizens, they will blame Trump and hope that Berlin isn't leveled again? Is that it?

Aren't German intelligence officers busy in Iraq and Syria trying to determine which ex-Daesh members from liberated areas are trying to blend in with the migratory flows to Europe? The Iraqi courts admittedly are giving most young men a pass as there is little evidence to charge them.

You do realize that you're trying to act as a corroborating source for the report on the German lawmaker who suggested a moratorium on intelligence sharing, right? Between running a cyber-security firm, traipsing around Brandenburg, meeting with all manner of insiders and posting on SWC/SWJ, when do you sleep?

By the way, I have a question for your friends at German intelligence: do they still keep in touch with their adopted freedom fighters in Kosovo? Or are narcotics, human and organ trafficking not as interesting as national liberation? Between the ~10,000 PKK operatives in Germany and the ~10,000 MIT officers/Grey Wolves, whose side do they fall on? ;)



If writing in coherent sentences with proper punctuation, spelling and grammar count as "true academic", then the bar must have been lowered since I last stalked the halls of higher education.

So, any person that is not breathlessly in favor of your Progressivist and Supranational vision of the future is "sold alt right"?

You seem to share Putin's opinion that democracy should be managed. Between Brexit and the EU's tough road ahead, perhaps there is a case to be made for integration of the Anglosphere. It would be lovely to see those countries - where true liberal democracy is not a passing fashion, a means to a collective end, or imposed with strategic bombing - try their hand at an alternative bloc.

Azor...you tend to forget that I have been in both the IT security and intel business for more than 51 years and when you have been ever strip searched by the GDR Stasi on a border crossing...then you tend to view the world not through rose colored glasses...and one knows how to balance the day to day....and when one works and lives overseas for more than 30 years you tend to have a far different view of the world than those living in the US.....my cat has her own pet passport and it has more country stamps in it than most Americans have ever visited as tourists...

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 06:12 AM
Aztor...so are you finally willing to admit that just maybe rump and a large number of his associates are either going to jail and or "fleeing to Moscow"????

]NBC News: Officials say multiple grand jury subpoenas & records requests have been issued in connection with the 2 men in the past 6 months

If the SWJ Moderator had not been removing my comments on these events you would have known that FINALLY MSM is picking up what social media has been reporting on for over FIVE months

Three Grand Juries....minimum of 24 max of 71 sealed indictments and one FBI raid already on a GOP Consulting Company with ties to Manafort Ukraine and Russia....

Arrest warrants have been issued and now a Special Prosecutor named...

So Steel was wrong???

IMHO I do not care who is elected..just do not be a traitor and collude with Russia regardless of how much money Putin throws at you....at least Obama did not do that....

Source with ties to Rosenstein says he has been planning to appoint Special Counsel but moved up anncment bc of Trump's actions this week.

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 06:18 AM
Actually well worth reading concerning "fake news".....

Pizzagate's roots in McCarthy, Birchers and JFK haters.

B.J. Bethel

A view of the world from Ohio
(Fake) News that kills:#PizzaGate scare only the#beginning

Posted by B.J. Bethel on December 5, 2016


John Kennedy became President in 1961, as the hangover buzz from the McCarthy hearings was starting to echo through the skull of American culture.
His predecessor, Dwight Eisenhower, was a military General, he led the Allies to war in Europe during World War II, and was the most knowledgable foreign policy president to hold office. He was also a Republican. And to some, a communist in sheep’s wool – yes, the Republican General who led the Americans to victory over fascism, and developed America’s nuclear deterrent.
This was the atmosphere that greeted Kennedy in office – the first Catholic elected president, a civil rights supporter, a war hero, and one loaded with personal and family baggage. The John Birch Society was at its peak, as was the crypto-right, and the conspiracy and rumor that surrounded his every step had parts of the nation gripped in paranoia, but a paranoia that looks comical next to the current state of affairs.
A month before Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, his UN Ambassador – Adlai Stevenson – was the center of a political riot that followed him from a speaking engagement in the city to the airport, with flags hung upside down as a sign of a country in distress. He was punched by a woman, and left wondering if the city suffered a psychotic episode.
Kennedy was shot a month later, after his advisors begged him not to go to Dallas. Wanted posters with his face were handed out. He wasn’t murdered#by a Bircher, but by a communist – Kennedy was the ultimate U.S. Cold Warrior at the moment.
The gas went out of the extremist movement when conspiracy became realization. Oswald was no right-winger (he tried to murder former General Edwin Walker in his own home, a staunch far-right figure). But the atmosphere soon died following y the site of a young and devastated Jackie Kennedy – with her husbands blood still on her hands and clothing – standing next to Lyndon Johnson as he was sworn in, of Kennedy’s son saluting his father’s casket. The Dallas fever kill John F. Kennedy, and his death killed it, along with efforts by conservatives to banish it from their movement.
It was during this period William Buckley – owner and publisher of the conservative National Review – former Democrat Norman Podhoretz and 1964 GOP Presidential nominee Barry Goldwater met and formulated a plan to cleanse the conservative movement of the extremists within it. Buckley would do the work in the magazine, Goldwater would avoid confronting them directly, and Podhoretz would provide intellectual fire power along with Buckley. Today such a repudiation of extremists on either side of the aisle would never happen – the price paid for political bravery isn’t known, because no one has tried it in so long.
Just months after Buckley died, the Great Recession was in absolute#thrall and Barack Obama was elected the first African-American president, Tea Party protests began. A grassroots middle class movement when it started, upset at bailouts for banks and a slap on the wrist given to bankers and politicians for destroying trillions in retirement funds, and millions of jobs, it was co-opted by the far right almost immediately. In Northwest Ohio, many of the Tea Party protests organized in rural areas were by local committees of the John Birch Society. The fever pitch was growing two decades before.
The Fairness Doctrine, which mandated equal time given to opposing views on radio and television, had been put to rest by Congress. Conservative radio followed, which provided a source of news for many who felt condescended to by the networks in their media capitals. But talk radio isn’t news, and quickly Rush Limbaugh began growing nationwide as Bill Clinton began his run as president. Soon followed conspiracy theories of the Clintons murdering confidante Vince Foster. The theme was carried to ridiculous ends during the 2016 campaign.
We’ve now reached the Dallas fever point#– Sunday, Dec. 4, 2016, when a man from North Carolina walked into a Washington DC pizza place carrying an assault rifle to investigate internet ‘claims’ of a pedophile ring. The fake story planted on Twitter, using the #PizzaGate hashtag, spread through the usual corridors of Reddit, and based on one fact – Clinton 2016 campaign chair John Podesta liked the pizza there.
During a post arrest interview, the suspect also revealed that he came to the establishment to self-investigate “Pizza Gate,” the MPD said in a statement.
As CBS affiliate WUSA reported previously, using the hashtag #PizzaGate, an imaginary story about the popular pizza shop was spread, accusing it to be the center of a child sex slave ring organized by Hillary Clinton and her former campaign manager.
As a result, the pizza place was hammered by thousands of threats, and bizarre, unsubstantiated tales about child sex trafficking.
WUSA reported that they found two women, who declined to give their names, banging on the patio at the pizza place in late November. The women were looking for the alleged tunnels used to traffic children.
Police arrested the man, no one was hurt, no one died – but it’s a near certainty someone will. Even as this story broke, the son of the would-be National Security Advisor continued to peddle the absurd and sick conspiracy theory on his own Twitter account. There are those with the moral authority like John Kasich and Mitt Romney to stand in the face of Nut Country and say, “No,” but they are out-numbered by the opportunists, and with Social Media, they wouldn’t stand a chance. When we need fact-checkers the most, our Fourth Estate is at its weakest.
When someone dies because someone else needed the ‘lulz,’ or Facebook liked its bottom line better than being a responsible company, there won’t be a Kennedy moment. The decency of the majority won’t stand a chance against the ravenous whims and sociopathy of the decadent minority, armed with “communication tools” the inventors of which don’t grasp or understand the consequences of.
Journalist and author Peter Hitchens mentioned in his book “The Rage Against God,” that Christianity, church and civic community began to disappear from England after World War I. After the war took every of-age male in some villages and towns, monuments were placed. A new religion took over in benighted worship of the military service.
This effect has reached the U.S. following the loss in Vietnam, of ill-treatment of veterans and the breakdown in faith of government institutions. To make up, the military is exalted in ways my Greatest Generation veteran relatives found extremely uncomfotable, but it hasn’t replaced religion in America, politics has. Maybe it was the Moral Majority, maybe it was the Reagan Coalition, maybe it was the abortion fight. Maybe it was the 60s left. But politics became everything, and as Goldwater once said, “Extremism, in defense of liberty, is no vice. And moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.”
Since that 1964 speech, extremism and vice have grown by multitudes, anarchy is in place of liberty and justice is no longer in fear of pursuit because the world is drowning in a sea of technology, ironic displacement, and the lies of the humanity’s worst.

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 06:27 AM
An interesting development which goes to the heart of the failure of US MSM in pushing back on Russian info warfare and fake news...

I kept commenting on a running development being tracked by social media especially two journalists that were breaking news on the Russian Trump connection and IC/FBI investigations and who have long ago already posted this BUT were being blasted by MSM for "fake news"....

THIS was reported on days ago and no one paid attention because it had not come from MSM...


NBC News: Officials say multiple grand jury subpoenas & records requests have been issued in connection with the 2 men in the past 6 months

THESE two journalists called it correctly for the following.

1. FISA Warrants numbers and when issued AND against who
2. number of Federal Grand Juries convened.....THREE
3. sealed indictments on 6 total of 19 more coming....NOW confirmed
4. confirmed a coming FBI raid involving RICO and Russia connections...OCCURRED....
5. have indicated that the EDVA Federal Courts have cleared their calendars of all cases...totally unusual.....not confirmed yet by MSM

Social media has become one of the most successful areas for accurately driven OSINT if done correctly and it is deep in the fight against Russian info warfare and fake news and Russian botnets...BUT nothing from MSM....

BUT what is sad is that everytime a MSM states...scoop and breaking news THEY overtly forget who actually broke the story and cannot seem to give due credit where it is due...

REMINDER of what they posted and which has not been picked up by MSM...

FBI or Federal Marshals plan to apprehend defendants has been approved by the court and their executing warrants when the sealed indictments are unsealed

This is what was posted yesterday and then take in the DoJ announcement of the Special Prosecutor being named and it is Mueller....not the best person for Trump ...as he has a high degree of respect for his professionalism...


Ok. Here's what I've learned. I'm pretty solid on most of this but please keep in mind I'm not a lawyer so if you can keep that in mind...

Shortly after 12pm in the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA) in a closed and secure courtroom colloquially known as a SCIF, a hearing was held. The Government argued before a 3 judge panel for a MOE (Marshall Order of Execution). The MOE was granted. A revised tactical and logistical plan was approved for Multiple Jurisdictions by the Court. This is a highly detailed plan using hundreds of United States Marshal Service targeting an unknown number of Trump associates. The operation commenced shortly after the Court's approved of the MOE at about 2pm. The MOE filing and number will remain under seal until the indictments are unsealed by the Court. End

REMEMBER there were social media reporting from these two about unusual court activity yesterday...NOT reported on by US MSM....

Hmmm. It appears that the EDVA is now closed to members of the public not having business before the court. That's. Highly. Unusual. All dockets cleared from their normal scheduled cases.....which is usually 11 per judge per day that is a total of 33 cases that were scheduled that were cleared off the dockets...

AND unreported by MSM BUT by these two...there was a major FBI arrest this week in San Francisco and that was rumored as being tied to the actual DNC hacking..who was then flown to the East Coast on the same arrest date....

These two have also been reporting that the VP Pence is also under investigation as well...

Glenn Thrush: Pence drove Comey firing; was in the room for Flynn talks in Jan

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 06:52 AM
NOW based on the track record of the previous comments posted here by these two social media journalists this takes on a serious tone and is a direct threat to the US...

EXCLUSIVE: James Comey's Computer Illegally Accessed, Data Passed to Russian Diplomats



Exclusive: Sources close to the intelligence community report that Director Comey’s#FBI computer was illegally accessed immediately after he was dismissed from his post. They further report that ‘removable media’ was used in the commission of this crime. ‘Removable media’ is a category describing physical devices that can be placed into a computer, either to download information or to upload it, such as a memory card, a USB stick, a removable hard drive, a thumb drive or similar items.

Sources further report that a person or persons allied to Donald Trump passed data accessed from Director Comey’s computer to Russian diplomats. It is not known when or how this took place. A piece of removable media containing all the data in question has been recovered from hostile actors, sources say, and is now in the possession of the Justice Department.

Director Comey is said to have known in advance that Mr. Trump would dismiss him. He took careful steps, these sources say, to leave not only a paper trail as we have seen in the story of the ‘Comey Memo’ but also a digital one. Director Comey’s own primary work#computer, and other computers in and around his former office, were fitted with sophisticated intelligence community software allowing the Justice Department to see precisely how and when they were attacked.

davidbfpo
05-18-2017, 06:58 AM
I have re-opened this thread to house the posts on the internal situation in the USA, primarily around President Trump's governance and the likely impact on US policies abroad.

The title was Donald Trump Becomes 45th President! but now becomes simply The Trump impact on US policy.

It is not a thread for one member's posting.

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 07:00 AM
Further proof that when social media was calling it out as being accurate...MSM was silent and even dissing their stories...

ESPECIALLY when they posted THREE Grand Juries were in full operation on the Russian Trump connections, RICO, money laundering.....

Remember when the grand juries were totes made up?

THEN days after social media posted this and was laughed at by MSM..from the New York Times....

US MSM must accept that social media journalism especially investigative journalism is alive and well and in direct competition with them...BUT this is exactly what is needed when pushing back on Russian info warfare...

The two must inherently work together as that is the only way forward against Russian political warfare.

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 07:10 AM
I have re-opened this thread to house the posts on the internal situation in the USA, primarily around President Trump's governance and the likely impact on US policies abroad.

The title was Donald Trump Becomes 45th President! but now becomes simply The Trump impact on US policy.

It is not a thread for one member's posting.

IMHO..I would love for all US voters for and against Trump or even non US readers to jump as it appears that right now we will be seeing something never seen before...a "political war win from Putin"....

This has confirmed for me as one fighting a good fight against Russian hacking/info warfare in Berlin and one who is contributing quietly in assisting Europeans in this fight....it has reached a point in the US that is extremely dangerous both for the US and for Europe....

Russia has a five year jump on the West in this particular political war and everyone must fully understand just what the heck is ongoing especially with internal US affairs as David is correct it directly affects US FP....

Everyone must now realize that the Russian non linear warfare being used to both drive and support Russia's political war against the US is serious and dangerous as we are on the verge of slightly losing that war unless the US finally pushes back...

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 07:17 AM
When you scoop @WashingtonPost AND @NYTimes in a single night on what the @FBI is considering against Ryan and Pence https://patribotics.blog/2017/05/11/sources-russia-probe-means-president-hatch-rico-case-against-gop/#…

IF these two social media investigative journalists are correct and their track record using inside sources is amazing actually...

THEN the US is headed to a serious Constitutional crisis .....in that every individual who could/would replace Trump in the line of constitutional secession is in fact under investigation and it could end up being the Senate ProTem who takes over Senator Hatch.......EIGTH in line.....

The @FBI do not take lightly @Mike_Pence's treasonous collusion against the President of the United States the day he expelled Russian spies...REMEMBER because of the Obama WH concerns already about Russian activities they did not inform the Trump transition team until two hours before the toss out announcement....

There's total confusion and panic in the WH tonight. Not just among Trump's staff but Pence's too. Real concern Pence will go down w/ Trump.

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 07:30 AM
Flynn stopped military plan Turkey opposed – after being paid as its agent
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article151149702.html#storylink=cpy

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 07:36 AM
I have been repeatedly pointing out over and over the connection between US proTrump alt right ie white nationalists and Russian propaganda efforts....ESPECIALLY on US Twitter and the US right blogsites...

Donald Trump-Vladimir Putin: Russia's information war meets the US election
http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election/trumpputin-russias-information-war-meets-the-us-election-20160609-gpf4sm.html#…

NOTICE the date of this article....


It's no secret that Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump like each other. But what's less known is how Russia is attempting to support Trump through social media, by helping galvanise and motivate extremists who in turn#support the controversial Republican candidate.

Alexandr Dugin's support for Trump filters through to extremists trying to influence the US election.#Photo: Youtube

A network of Russian-backed anti-Western websites are linked with American white supremacist, sovereign citizen, and conspiracy theory sites. Activists connected to those sites support the Trump campaign, often parroting Moscow's criticism of the US, NATO and the general ills of Western society.#
"There appears to be some kind of alignment across social media between these extremist#groups in the West and the Russian groups," said Peter Singer, US-based strategist at the New America Foundation. "The key is how much of it is fandom and shared interests (both support Trump, for example) and how much of it is direct inspiration and coordination."

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 07:40 AM
Former Israeli spymasters rip into Trump, say Israel must reassess intel sharing.



Former Israeli spymasters rip into Trump, say Israel must reassess intel sharing
Ex-Mossad head Shavit: US president is like a ‘bull in a china shop… If tomorrow I were asked to pass information to the CIA, I would do everything I could to not pass it to them’

http://www.timesofisrael.com/former-israeli-spymasters-rip-into-trump-say-israel-must-reassess-intel-sharing/

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 07:46 AM
House majority leader to colleagues in 2016: ‘I think Putin pays’ Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.74f5f8475527

He was referring to Trump and Rohrabacher..Rohabacher has been a very vocal proRussian spokesperson on his approval of Russian annexation of Crimea and their invading of Nazi Ukraine.....a number of his comments have been posted on the Ukrainian thread.....

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 07:50 AM
What goes around comes back around in ways you cannot foresee....

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He was referring to the Trump speech yesterday at the CGA graduation....

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 08:00 AM
Azor...warned you about the coming Turkish response if Trump/CENTCOM/SOF did not throttle back their blatant support for PKK and the very poor Trump meeting where Trump was not prepared for anything that Erdogan raised as issues...is what is coming out of Istanbul today...


Turkey calls for ouster of #US envoy who coordinates international coalition fighting against IS: foreign minister @AFP

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 08:00 AM
Senior FBI official says the bureau is “jubilant” about Mueller’s appointment
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/18/trumps-worst-nightmare-comes-true-215153#

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 08:16 AM
BREAKING: @WSJ: Israeli intelligence source compromised by Trump was the most important the West had inside #ISIS
https://www.wsj.com/articles/israeli-source-seen-as-key-to-countering-islamic-state-threat-1495068912?mod=e2tw#

BTW...IS is very good about rooting out spies if it is warned about them as Trump did for them.....

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 08:18 AM
Some in the Kremlin are wondering if Trump will be impeached as storm around White House grows
https://www.wsj.com/articles/putin-dismisses-accusation-that-trump-divulged-secrets-to-russian-officials-1495027549#

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 08:32 AM
Kellyanne Conway cancels Fox News appearance after special prosecutor announcement
http://hill.cm/SgbuUvN

Appears no one in the Trump WH wants to go public on this.....

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 08:33 AM
@FoxNews FoxNews using Kremlin catchphrase "Russia Hysteria" calls for new phrase. Now Putin uses "schizophrenia" to both mock & defend his man Trump

Putin trying hard to support Trump now....

Putin says he handed over "secret information" to the G7 leaders during his Sochi meeting with Italian PM.

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 08:34 AM
Breaking News: Trump aides knew Michael Flynn was under investigation before he became national security adviser
http://nyti.ms/2pVFyCk

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 12:56 PM
Wow...we have now officially left the Nixon Watergate era behind us and entered the "twilight zone"......

Flynn & Kislyak discussed establishing a back channel for comms between Trump & Putin to bypass the U.S. national security bureaucracy

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN18E106

Exclusive: Trump campaign had at least 18 undisclosed contacts with Russians: sources
8h ago | 02:19

Ned Parker, Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel | WASHINGTON


Michael Flynn and other advisers to Donald Trump’s campaign were in contact with Russian officials and others with Kremlin ties in at least 18 calls and emails during the last seven months of the 2016 presidential race, current and former U.S. officials familiar with the exchanges told Reuters.
The previously undisclosed interactions form part of the record now being reviewed by FBI and congressional investigators probing Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election and contacts between Trump’s campaign and Russia.
Six of the previously undisclosed contacts described to Reuters were phone calls between Sergei Kislyak, Russia's ambassador to the United States, and Trump advisers, including Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser, three current and former officials said.
Conversations between Flynn and Kislyak accelerated after the Nov. 8 vote as the two discussed establishing a back channel for communication between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin that could bypass the U.S. national security bureaucracy, which both sides considered hostile to improved relations, four current U.S. officials said.
In January, the Trump White House initially denied any contacts with Russian officials during the 2016 campaign. The White House and advisers to the campaign have since confirmed four meetings between Kislyak and Trump advisers during that time.
The people who described the contacts to Reuters said they had seen no evidence of wrongdoing or collusion between the campaign and Russia in the communications reviewed so far. But the disclosure could increase the pressure on Trump and his aides to provide the FBI and Congress with a full account of interactions with Russian officials and others with links to the Kremlin during and immediately after the 2016 election.
The White House did not respond to requests for comment. Flynn's lawyer declined to comment. In Moscow, a Russian foreign ministry official declined to comment on the contacts and referred Reuters to the Trump administration.
Separately, a spokesman for the Russian embassy in Washington said: “We do not comment on our daily contacts with the local interlocutors.”
The 18 calls and electronic messages took place between April and November 2016 as hackers engaged in what U.S. intelligence concluded in January was part of a Kremlin campaign to discredit the vote and influence the outcome of the election in favor of Trump over his Democratic challenger, former secretary of state Hillary Clinton.
Those discussions focused on mending U.S.-Russian economic relations strained by sanctions imposed on Moscow, cooperating in fighting Islamic State in Syria and containing a more assertive China, the sources said.
Members of the Senate and House intelligence committees have gone to the CIA and the National Security Agency to review transcripts and other documents related to contacts between Trump campaign advisers and associates and Russian officials and others with links to Putin, people with knowledge of those investigations told Reuters.
The U.S. Justice Department said on Wednesday it had appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel to investigate alleged Russian meddling in the U.S. presidential campaign and possible collusion between Trump’s campaign and Russia. Mueller will now take charge of the FBI investigation that began last July. Trump and his aides have repeatedly denied any collusion with Russia.

'IT'S RARE'
In addition to the six phone calls involving Kislyak, the communications described to Reuters involved another 12 calls, emails or text messages between Russian officials or people considered to be close to Putin and Trump campaign advisers.
One of those contacts was by Viktor Medvedchuk, a Ukrainian oligarch and politician, according to one person with detailed knowledge of the exchange and two others familiar with the issue.
It was not clear with whom Medvedchuk was in contact within the Trump campaign but the themes included U.S.-Russia cooperation, the sources said. Putin is godfather to Medvedchuk’s daughter.
Medvedchuk denied having any contact with anyone in the Trump campaign.
"I am not acquainted with any of Donald Trump's close associates, therefore no such conversation could have taken place," he said in an email to Reuters.
In the conversations during the campaign, Russian officials emphasized a pragmatic, business-style approach and stressed to Trump associates that they could make deals by focusing on common economic and other interests and leaving contentious issues aside, the sources said.
Republicans worry Trump scandals may doom legislative agenda
Veterans of previous election campaigns said some contact with foreign officials during a campaign was not unusual, but the number of interactions between Trump aides and Russian officials and others with links to Putin was exceptional.
“It’s rare to have that many phone calls to foreign officials, especially to a country we consider an adversary or a hostile power,” Richard Armitage, a Republican and former deputy secretary of state, told Reuters.

FLYNN FIRED
Beyond Medvedchuk and Kislyak, the identities of the other Putin-linked participants in the contacts remain classified and the names of Trump advisers other than Flynn have been “masked” in intelligence reports on the contacts because of legal protections on their privacy as American citizens. However, officials can request that they be revealed for intelligence purposes.
U.S. and allied intelligence and law enforcement agencies routinely monitor communications and movements of Russian officials.
After Vice President Mike Pence and others had denied in January that Trump campaign representatives had any contact with Russian officials, the White House later confirmed that Kislyak had met twice with then-Senator Jeff Sessions, who later became attorney general.
Kislyak also attended an event in April where Trump said he would seek better relations with Russia. Senior White House adviser Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law, also attended that event in Washington. In addition, Kislyak met with two other Trump campaign advisers in July on the sidelines of the Republican convention.
Trump fired Flynn in February after it became clear that he had falsely characterized the nature of phone conversations with Kislyak in late December - after the Nov. 8 election and just after the Obama administration announced new sanctions on Russia. Flynn offered to testify to Congress in return for immunity from prosecution but his offer was turned down by the House intelligence committee.

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 01:00 PM
It's good to have so many MSM reporters pick up their notebooks and join the hunt. I'm sure @LouiseMensch will join me in welcoming you.


Now if only they'd stop with their "exclusive" tag line on stories you broke days or weeks before them

MSM is gonna MSM

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 01:05 PM
Trump assumed that by firing the FBI Director he could side step any Russian CI investigation....EVEN President are not above the rule of law....

AND AGAIN he cannot spell in his tweets....

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With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed!

BUT WAIT There were over 1121 Congressional hearings about Bengahzi and Clinton emails...ZERO on Trump and Russian connections until a Special Prosecutor was named....

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This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 01:06 PM
Pence lied saying he didn't know #Flynn lobbied for foreign govt/paid by #Russia. Yet Rep Cummings told Pence about BOTH in NOVEMBER.

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 01:09 PM
I'm going to be blunt. Pence is starting his own PAC because he fully expects to be GOP nominee in 2020.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-05-17/pence-takes-steps-to-build-war-chest-as-white-house-stumbles?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

BUT some say even Pence has been under investigation .....

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 01:14 PM
Confirms previously posted comments above...

The MOE (Marshal Order of Execution) began yesterday afternoon (confirmed by NBC) is search and seizure in 10 physical locations in three jurisdictions.

Aimed at documents, servers, computers, hard drives, telephones etc.

EDVA, SDNY & and the NJ District Court.

AGAIN confirms these social media journalist articles over the last three weeks....THREE Grand Juries..issuing currently 12 sealed indictments and a max of 42 sealed indictments....

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 01:35 PM
Trump who admitted he does not read..really does need to start reading some history books before he makes such statements in front of Coast Guard officers.....

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 01:42 PM
Full quote from senior White House official on Trump threat to leave #NATO right here:

Based on precedent, expect bold POTUS move and threat to leave NATO, while visiting NATO, would certainly qualify even if never acted upon.

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 01:44 PM
Azor..have been trying to tell you that Europe is not matching to the Trump Syrian drumbeat as they have been already active in Syria...APPEARS Trump did not realize this...PLUS they honestly see "mission creep" on the part of the US...


France and Germany are resisting a plan by U.S. officials for NATO to take a bigger role in the fight against Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, in line with calls from President Donald Trump for the alliance to do more to combat terrorism.
Many alliance members hope the plan will be announced in Brussels next Thursday, when Trump attends his first NATO summit. But France and Germany have misgivings, allies involved in the discussions said.
Among the concerns: NATO might be caught up in another costly, Afghan-style deployment, irk some Arab countries or risk confrontation with Russia in Syria.
"They are not buying it," said a senior European NATO diplomat, who said some other nations including Greece and Italy were also wary of the plan.
"They want to know what difference would it make. All 28 NATO allies are already part of this effort," the diplomat said, referring to a 68-nation U.S.-led coalition against Islamic State that includes all NATO members.
French and German officials declined to comment, but German Chancellor Angela Merkel left open the possibility of NATO as an institution joining the coalition when she met NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg last week. Both ruled out any combat role for NATO in Syria and Iraq.
France's new President Emmanuel Macron will have lunch with Trump - who last month withdrew his earlier charge that NATO was 'obsolete' because it was not 'taking care of terror' - before the Brussels meeting next Thursday.
While Islamic State is on the verge of defeat in its Iraqi stronghold of Mosul, and bracing for an assault against its de facto capital in Raqqa, Syria, U.S. officials are concerned fleeing militants could leave a vacuum that could prompt Arab tribal fighters to turn on each other to gain control.
U.S. officials say the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation as an institution could contribute equipment, training and the expertise it gained leading a coalition against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. NATO military chiefs favor the move, said General Petr Pavel, chairman of the alliance's military committee.
Diplomats said this could mean NATO using its surveillance planes over Syria, running command-and-control operations and providing air-to-air refueling.

SYMBOLIC STEP
One compromise would be for NATO as an institution to formally join the coalition at the dinner with Trump next week, but leave the details of any involvement to a later stage.
"If allies can be convinced that it is only a symbolic step, a deal should be possible," said a second NATO diplomat. "Trump goes home with a message that NATO is joining the coalition and NATO doesn't have to do anything extra, at least for now."
Also In Middle East & North Africa
U.N. says 200,000 more people could flee Mosul as fighting intensifies
World Court orders Pakistan to delay execution of alleged Indian spy
A broader hesitancy among European allies stems from the long mission that NATO has undertaken in Afghanistan, taking over the United States' bid to defeat militants in 2003 after the attacks on New York and Washington two years earlier.
Given Russia's concerns over NATO expansion in eastern Europe, and its role in Syria as the key military ally of President Bashar al-Assad, some allies also worry that deeper NATO involvement there could be taken by Moscow as a provocation.
But a stronger role in Iraq and Syria could also address concerns expressed by Mediterranean allies, such as Spain, Italy and Portugal, that NATO lacks a strategy for tackling the root causes of the migrant and refugee crisis.
Stoltenberg has talked about NATO's "untapped potential" in building up armed forces. Options include more NATO training of Iraqi troops and police, as well as strengthening government departments in areas taken back from Islamic State.
"NATO is the only security organization with the skills and breadth to take on this task," wrote Hans Binnendijk and David Gompert in a paper for the U.S. think-tank RAND Corporation.

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 03:23 PM
NOW we have truly surpassed Watergate.......

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BREAKING: Top Republican on Senate intelligence panel says Michael Flynn's lawyers say he won't honor subpoena.

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 03:41 PM
This was being reported by the two social media journalists THREE weeks ago and accurately predicted....now MSM breaks it a breaking news...they gave reasons for this BUT MSM in their breaking news never mentioned the WHY??

JASON CHAFFETZ expected to announce today he will step down from Congress early. Comes days after Comey subpoena.His office declines comment.

Some are alluding to the fact that he was also involved in the ongoing FBI investigation.

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 05:53 PM
Exclusive: Trump sends private message to embattled Flynn: "Stay strong"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/investigators-circled-flynn-got-message-trump-stay-strong-145442727.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

It is witness tampering/obstruction, but it's the way #dolt45 has always done business. New York knows...

Trump really, really shouldn't be sending messages to subjects of an investigation that might implicate them both. He's playing with fire.

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Let's ask @brhodes @AmbassadorRice @DenisMcDonough or @mwlippert how many times they talked to Russians during 2008 campaign?


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As for me, not once during 2008 campaign or transition.

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 06:20 PM
NOW we have truly surpassed Watergate.......

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BREAKING: Top Republican on Senate intelligence panel says Michael Flynn's lawyers say he won't honor subpoena.

BREAKING: Senate panel says it has not received response from Michael Flynn's lawyer, correcting earlier comments from chairman.

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 06:23 PM
The key in the Reuters revelations is Viktor Medvedchuk, who is Putin's man in Ukraine. This points at Manafort.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-contacts-idUSKCN18E106#

Medvedchuk is a Ukrainian oligarch and very close ally of Putin's....

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 06:28 PM
Interesting—Evan McMullin wrote an op-ed in Feb. abt same meeting where McCarthy joked Trump was being paid by Putin
http://nyti.ms/2pPHOix

OUTLAW 09
05-18-2017, 07:03 PM
CNN's @MichLKosinski's phone call with Secretary Rex Tillerson's advisor @rchammond at the State Department is disturbing.

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 04:13 AM
What many do not fully understand Pence is also under investigation for his part in funneling Russian money into the GOP....so is unusual to see such articles....

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Source close to Trump administration says Vice President Pence kept in the dark about Flynn's alleged wrongdoings
http://nbcnews.to/2pQXDFq

Fakes news attempting to put distance between him and Trump.....but ignore the fact that he is under investigation as well.....as there are now verified sources that he fully knew what was ongoing around Flynn....

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 07:50 AM
What many do not fully understand Pence is also under investigation for his part in funneling Russian money into the GOP....so is unusual to see such articles....

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Source close to Trump administration says Vice President Pence kept in the dark about Flynn's alleged wrongdoings
http://nbcnews.to/2pQXDFq

Fakes news attempting to put distance between him and Trump.....but ignore the fact that he is under investigation as well.....as there are now verified sources that he fully knew what was ongoing around Flynn....

NOTE.....

While NBC has been breaking news on three items that were reported by social media journalists weeks ago....they are seriously not fact checking their own stories...AND BTW not giving credits to those journalists in their articles for breaking information first.....

The same two social media journalist who have been amazingly accurate with their reports are now saying this about Pence.....

I have a source (not Olga's) in LE who told me "Pence came to the Russia party late but quickly got into the spirit of the thing".

There are in fact recordings of Pence and Russians in conversations about Russian money support to GOP at the national convention...

The Russia he was talking to was the US Russian Ambassador...

Pence-Flynn coverup no shock if you remember Pence's other national security negligence/coverup–his hacked AOL emails while Governor that got talked under the radar and largely forgotten by MSM......

Pence also at the State level was charged and fined as a young politician for using campaign money for his house mortgage....

With today's report that Flynn has turned on Pence, it looks like VP's staff has good reason to be worried after all
Jon Cooper

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 07:57 AM
Interesting that out of the Senate Rodenstein briefing a number of even Republican Senators had come to the conclusion that next to a Russia investigation there are a number of criminal investigations which has been reported by social media to be RICO and money laundering related....

We must also not forget the following which has been largely running under the radar.....

From NYTs 6 APR 2017

Kushner Omitted Meeting With Russians on Security Clearance Forms

On his security clearance SF86 form he totally "forgot" to include all his Russian travels, Russian contacts and any Russian business dealing under the SF86 Section on Foreign Contacts and Businesses....

THAT normally would be an automatic invitation to a repeat personal interview to explain WHY BUT it appears that was not done...WHY

If it had been me or you we would have been fired and the clearance pulled for life.....

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 08:00 AM
Interesting and overlooked fact....being reported out of FBI....

Comey fired by Trump on 9 MAY.....

On Wed, May 10th, Robert Mueller was at DOJ (he arrived at 7:18am) and began informally acting as Special Counsel until off. ancmnt on 5/17.

It is almost like Comey called Trumps moves before Trump knew what to do...

Not only did he leave a paper trail he left a chain of command to continue....

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 08:07 AM
NYT: Comey Is Said to Have Become Unsettled by Interactions With Trump
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/us/politics/james-comey-memo-fbi-trump.html


WASHINGTON — President Trump called the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, weeks after he took office and asked him when federal authorities were going to put out word that Mr. Trump was not personally under investigation, according to two people briefed on the call.
Mr. Comey told the president that if he wanted to know details about the bureau’s investigations, he should not contact him directly but instead follow the proper procedures and have the White House counsel send any inquiries to the Justice Department, according to those people.
After explaining to Mr. Trump how communications with the F.B.I. should work, Mr. Comey believed he had effectively drawn the line after a series of encounters he had with the president and other White House officials that he felt jeopardized the F.B.I.’s independence. At the time, Mr. Comey was overseeing the investigation into links between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia.
Those interactions included a dinner in which associates of Mr. Comey say Mr. Trump asked him to pledge his loyalty and a meeting in the Oval Office at which Mr. Trump told him he hoped Mr. Comey would shut down an investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn. Mr. Trump has denied making the request.
The day after the Flynn conversation, Reince Priebus, the White House chief of staff, asked Mr. Comey to help push back on reports in the news media that Mr. Trump’s associates had been in contact with Russian intelligence officials during the campaign.
Mr. Comey described all of his contacts with the president and the White House — including the phone call from Mr. Trump — in detailed memos he wrote at the time and gave to his aides. Congressional investigators have requested copies of the memos, which, according to two people who have read them, provide snapshots of a fraught relationship between a president trying to win over and influence an F.B.I. director and someone who had built his reputation on asserting his independence, sometimes in a dramatic way.
Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, said in a statement on Thursday that “the sworn testimony” of both Mr. Comey and Andrew G. McCabe, the F.B.I.’s acting director, “make clear that there was never any attempt to interfere in this investigation. As the president previously stated, he respects the ongoing investigations and will continue working to fulfill his promises to the American people.”
It is not clear whether in all their interactions Mr. Comey answered Mr. Trump’s question or if he ever told him whether he was under investigation. In the letter Mr. Trump sent to Mr. Comey last week in which he informed him that he had been fired, Mr. Trump told Mr. Comey, “I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation.”
The F.B.I.’s longest-serving director, J. Edgar Hoover, had close relationships with several presidents. But in the modern F.B.I., directors have sought an arm’s length relationship with the presidents they serve and have followed Justice Department guidelines outlining how the White House should have limited contact with the F.B.I.
Those guidelines, which also cover the F.B.I., prohibit conversations with the White House about active criminal investigations unless they are “important for the performance of the president’s duties and appropriate from a law enforcement perspective.” When such conversations are necessary, only the attorney general or the deputy attorney general can initiate those discussions.
Mr. Comey has spoken privately of his concerns that the contacts from Mr. Trump and his aides were inappropriate, and how he felt compelled to resist them.

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 08:10 AM
Trump announced that Joe Liebermann was on his list to become FBI Director....

BUT WAIT...Joe Liebermanns own law firm already represents both Trump and his Trump Organization....conflict of interest?......definitely...

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 08:16 AM
Some people in the US are resorting to the tried and proven Russian propaganda, disinformation and fake news tactics......

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AND then he went on to sate the following......

He ran the Seth Rich story again. Claimed he's the source of Podesta emails and that it can't be Russia bc "Assange said so."

This is the same Wikileaks that leaked Russian state sponsored hack emails of French President Marcon right before the French election..the same Wikileaks...

BUT WAIT...he cannot be the source of the Podesta emails as that would then place him working inconjunction with Russian GRU and FSB hackers

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 08:48 AM
Can someone explain to both the US AG and Representative Nunes exactly what the term "Recusal" means....

Nunes is under invesitagtion for ehtnic violations in revealing classified information.....

Sessions even though recused from the Russian investigation was participating directly in the firing of the FBI Director who was investigation Trump and possible Russian connections....

Nunes is also still reviewing Russian intelligence when he is supposed to be "recused".....


The former head of the House Russia investigation, Rep. Devin Nunes, is continuing to review intelligence relating to Russia, a move that has Democrats grumbling that he has violated the spirit of his recusal.
Nunes, a California Republican, took a trip to the CIA this week to review Russia intelligence, according to House intelligence committee sources. As word of Nunes trip trickled out among lawmakers this week, it angered Democrats who thought that they had moved past the chaos spurred by Nunes' coordination with the White House.

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 08:53 AM
READ the story behind the @TIME Mag Cover NOW
http://time.com/magazine/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam#…

Evidently the Russian influence operation was five years in the making....let that sink in....FIVE long years.....

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 08:59 AM
Trump campaign had at least 18 undisclosed contacts with Russians: sources | Reuters
http://pllqt.it/qCL8NF

There are now reports of upwards of a total of 30 times not the reported 18 times....and actually may in the end go higher.....

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 09:34 AM
”You cannot run a major power like this. & the damage it is doing to US leadership on the world stage is enormous.”

#25 John R Schindler: ”Trump has a childs understanding of American government”

http://blogg.mittmedia.se/podd72/2017/05/19/25-john-r-schindler-trump-childs-understanding-american-government/

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 09:38 AM
READ the story behind the @TIME Mag Cover NOW
http://time.com/magazine/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam#…

Evidently the Russian influence operation was five years in the making....let that sink in....FIVE long years.....

Among big items is this story - Russia bought ads to help Trump in 2016, acting essentially as vast IE.
http://time.com/magazine/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam#…

Critical to look at how RNC/Priebus/Spicer mainstreamed the Russian disinformation. Was essential to op's success.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2017-04-14/rnc-must-take-the-lead-preventing-future-russian-interference-in-elections

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 09:42 AM
The Trump WH has other major problems outside of the Russians....THEMSELVES......now we are seeing bribery and or outright blackmail.....

IS the Trump WH actively attempting to undercut existing US law...it certainly is......

Must-read from @NoamLevey on problems in ACA markets -- and the Trump Administration's role in them
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-obamacare-trump-mismanagement-20170518-story.html#…

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 01:37 PM
Rohrabacher was once warned by FBI that Russian spies were trying to recruit him, via NYT.

AND based on his constant positive support for Putin, Russian annexation of Crimea and his Nazi comments every time he refers to Ukraine they in fact must have recruited him...and his support to lift sanctions.

davidbfpo
05-19-2017, 01:38 PM
In a commentary on President Trump's overseas tour The Soufan Group say:
Bottom Line Up Front: • On May 19 President Trump will embark on his first trip abroad since taking office.
• The administration has billed it as an attempt to unite three of the world’s great religions in the fight against terrorism and ideological extremism.
• The effort to achieve a degree of unity in purpose among America’s allies in the Middle East comes at a critical time in the lifespan of bin Ladenism.
• Nothing has done more to preemptively undermine the success of the President’s first trip abroad than the endemic culture of scandal in U.S. domestic politics.

(They conclude with) As the ability of the U.S. government to craft and execute complex, long-term policies is increasingly called into doubt over domestic political turmoil, there is a real risk that the U.S. will come to be viewed as an unstable and unreliable partner, diminishing its influence abroad.
Link:http://www.soufangroup.com/tsg-intelbrief-the-challenge-of-trumps-first-trip-abroad/

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 01:39 PM
World

@ReutersWorld
Trump under pressure to assure NATO allies he has their back
http://reut.rs/

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 01:43 PM
It is amazing that when the Trump WH talks constantly about "leaks" most of the leaking is coming from actually inside the WH...

CBSNews

WASHINGTON#-- To the White House and its supporters, the big story in Washington isn't the investigation into possible Trump campaign ties to Russia. It's about leakers working to undermine the president.
"SABOTAGE," read the subject line of emails sent out by President Donald Trump's re-election campaign and the Republican Party, which pointed to "people within our own unelected bureaucracy that want to sabotage President Trump and our entire America First movement." Trump tweeted Thursday that he's facing "the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!"
The language reveals much about how Trump and his backers are explaining the seemingly never-ending blitz of bad news rocking the White House. As Democrats talk about possible obstruction of justice and dream of removing Trump from office, the president and his allies reject that he bears responsibility for his woes. They see a plot to undermine him at every turn, as evidenced by the anonymous sources disclosing the embarrassing and damaging information - some of it classified.
All administrations have to deal with leaks, from the release of the Pentagon Papers on Vietnam policy to Edward Snowden's dump of national security files. But the scope and frequency experienced by the Trump White House is remarkable.
In addition to an endless stream of gossip and internal squabbling, news outlets have been privy to everything from details of draft documents to the president's private phone conversations with foreign leaders. This week came reports that the president had shared highly classified information with Russian officials during an Oval Office meeting, revealed by those with knowledge of the conversation.
"This has all the markings of a coordinated, silent coup," said Michael Caputo, who worked on Trump's campaign and keeps in touch with administration officials.
Leaks are hardly the only cause of Trump's problems - the uproar over FBI Director James Comey's dismissal wasn't the result of a leak. But Trump-friendly talking heads see something that stretches the realms of believability. Far-right radio host Alex Jones warns of a plot by "deep-state" globalists to impeach Trump. On Fox News, Sean Hannity warned Wednesday of a "destroy Trump alliance" that is now "aligning to take down President Trump."
But even if some claims go too far, Trump clearly does face opposition from within his own government. Running on a pledge to tear apart Washington, Trump still depends to some extent on Obama administration holdovers and career government employees, many of whom oppose him.
Clashes among Trump aides also create an environment in which staff leak information to undercut rivals.
Ari Fleischer, who served as press secretary to President George W. Bush, blamed Trump for creating an environment that promotes leaks, saying that starts at the top.
"I do think there is a serious problem with leakers inside the administration and holdovers who can't stand the president and will do anything they can to hurt him. Leaks are a real problem," he said. "But Donald Trump created many of these problems for himself."
A sense of fatigue and despondence has set in as White House officials wait for new balls to drop. Again and again, they have tried to push forward with their agenda, only to see news reports dominated by near-daily leaks.
"Somebody is selectively leaking information and facts. And there's a reason it's selective," said White House press secretary Sean Spicer, who once demanded that staffers turn over their cell phones so he could inspect them for unauthorized communication. "It's because they're trying to create ... at least it appears as though somebody is trying to create a narrative or a problem."
"It's extremely troubling," he said.
The focus on leaks has also been embraced by Republicans in Congress, who have urged reporters to pay more attention to the source of their stories - a familiar strategy to deflect the conversation away from bad news.
In many cases, Trump aides have leaked gossip to cement their public standings or tried to communicate with the president through news stories, which he devours.
Erick Erickson, a conservative activist who has been critical of the president, recently wrote that because the notoriously thin-skinned president doesn't like internal criticism, some aides "are left with no other option but to go to the media, leak the story, and hope that the intense blowback gives the president a swift kick in the butt."
White House officials have not said whether there is a leak investigation going on. But they're not the first to rail against leaks and leakers - or try to root them out.
In 2013, for instance, the Obama Justice Department secretly obtained two months of phone records for reporters and editors of The Associated Press, which appeared to be linked to a criminal investigation into leaks about a foiled terrorist plot to bomb an airliner.

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 01:52 PM
Among big items is this story - Russia bought ads to help Trump in 2016, acting essentially as vast IE.
http://time.com/magazine/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam#…

Critical to look at how RNC/Priebus/Spicer mainstreamed the Russian disinformation. Was essential to op's success.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2017-04-14/rnc-must-take-the-lead-preventing-future-russian-interference-in-elections

Interesting that this social media story broke long before this Time article yet Time gives no credit that that journalist and her story is far more detailed than the Time article.....

https://patribotics.blog/2017/04/16/mike-flynns-treason-tour-global-russian-propaganda-coordinated-with-trump/

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 02:16 PM
A remarkable look at how foreign officials are preparing for the President of the United States
http://nyti.ms/2rlwAlT

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 02:53 PM
Rohrabacher was once warned by FBI that Russian spies were trying to recruit him, via NYT.

AND based on his constant positive support for Putin, Russian annexation of Crimea and his Nazi comments every time he refers to Ukraine they in fact must have recruited him...and his support to lift sanctions.

US Congressman talks Russian money laundering with alleged ex-Soviet spy in Berlin
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/05/04/politics/rohrabacher-prevezon/index.html#

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 02:59 PM
Russian Embassy, UK‏
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@RussianEmbassy
#WikiLeaks informer Seth Rich murdered in US but MSM was so busy accusing Russian hackers to take notice.

Russian diplomats buy into and promote largely discredited conspiracy pushed by US conservative media ESPECIALLY pushed by FOX News and Alex Jones of Infowars.....

MORE solid evidence of just how now US alt right ie white nationalists and Russian propaganda are working together....

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 05:09 PM
Rosenstein told Congress he knew DJT plan to fire Comey before writing memo—says it was not a justification for firing; blows apart WH story

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 05:22 PM
AP Politics‏
WH aides have worried that if Trump's 1st trip is difficult, he might turn foreign travel duties over to Mike Pence:

Remember when Trump said HRC didn't have the stamina to be POTUS? In her 4 yrs as Secretary of State Clinton#traveled#956,733 miles.

OUTLAW 09
05-19-2017, 05:24 PM
https://www.apnews.com/417c7e00c0274a3792e3262d22afaa8c/Trump-attorney-didn't-want-him-to-sign-financial-disclosure

Trump attorney didn’t want him to sign financial disclosure



]WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump’s attorneys originally wanted him to submit an updated financial disclosure without certifying the information as true, according to correspondence with the Office of Government Ethics.
Attorney Sheri Dillon said she saw no need for Trump to sign his 2016 personal financial disclosure because he is filing voluntarily this year. But OGE director Walter Shaub said his office would only work with Dillon if she agreed to follow the typical process of having Trump make the certification. That is standard practice for the thousands of financial disclosure forms OGE processes each year.
The Associated Press obtained the letters under a Freedom of Information Act request.
“As we discussed, OGE will provide this assistance on the condition that the President is committed to certifying that the contents of his report are true, complete and correct,” Shaub wrote in a May 10 letter. “When we met on April 27, 2017, you requested that he be excused from providing this certification.”
In her letter to Shaub, Dillon says the president will “sign and file” documents regarding his 2016 financials by mid-June — an indication that she agreed to the OGE requirement that the president certify the information as true to the best of his knowledge.
Dillon also stressed in her letter, dated May 9, that Trump is under no obligation to file a financial disclosure this year and is doing so voluntarily. “President Trump welcomes the opportunity to provide this optional disclosure to the public, and hopes to file it shortly,” she wrote.
Personal financial disclosures include an accounting of a person’s personal income, assets and liabilities. Trump’s 2016 form will span his general election candidacy, election and transition to power — potentially shedding light on the immediate impact his Republican nomination and election had on his Trump Organization.
Last May, then-candidate Trump’s disclosure form showed his business empire had grown in value while he was running for office. However, the information is no substitute for tax returns, which Trump has chosen not to release — breaking the long tradition of his predecessors. Tax documents would show his effective rate of income tax and detail the extent of his charitable giving.
Trump’s decision to file a personal financial disclosure puts him in the company of past Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush and others.
Shaub references that history in the first line of his letter to Dillon: “Thank you for your letter dated May 9, 2017, regarding the President’s decision to adhere to the longstanding tradition of voluntarily filing a public financial disclosure report in the first year after taking office.”

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 06:03 AM
NOW it is getting interesting.....and leaked just as Trump is leaving the country...

BTW...the WH answer to this breaking release was the standard Trump tweet response..."all officials have previously stated there is no collusion"...which basically is a lie as no FBI and or IC official has ever clearly and concisely stated that....this answer is just what Trump tweets nothing more nothing less

CNN Politics‏
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@CNNPolitics

First on CNN: Russian officials bragged they could use Michael Flynn to influence Donald Trump, sources say

On tape......

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 06:10 AM
Russian collusion...criminal investigation and now a coverup....investigation


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article151565947.html#storylink=cpy

Comey agrees to testify in public as Trump-Russia probe heats up

By Matthew Schofield and Lesley Clark
McClatchy Washington Bureau



WASHINGTON
Investigators into Russian meddling in the U.S. presidential elections are now authorized to probe whether White House officials have engaged in a cover-up, according to members of Congress who were briefed Friday by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.
A Justice Department official, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the topic, confirmed that Rosenstein told members of the House of Representatives that the special counsel in charge of the probe, former FBI Director Robert Mueller, “has been given the authority to investigate the possibility of a cover-up.”
But he denied that Rosenstein had told Congress such a probe was underway, noting that Rosenstein had declined to provide details of what is being explored. Where the investigation goes would be up to Mueller, the Justice Department official said.
Even as members of Congress were mulling the possible expansion of the case into a cover-up probe, and its reclassification from counterintelligence to criminal, the scandal appeared to grow.
The Washington Post reported Friday afternoon that federal investigators were looking at a senior White House official as a “significant person of interest.” The article did not identify the official, though it noted that the person was “someone close to the president.”
A person of interest is someone law enforcement identifies as relevant to an investigation but who has not been charged or arrested.
And The New York Times reported that Trump had told visiting Russian officials in the Oval Office that firing Comey had taken pressure off the Russia probe.
Meanwhile, Comey has agreed to testify publicly before the Senate Intelligence Committee, the committee’s senior members announced late Friday.
The announcement, issued jointly by the committee’s Republican chair, Sen. Richard Burr of North Carolina, and its senior Democrat, Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia, said Comey’s appearance would take place after Memorial Day.
Burr said that he hoped Comey “will clarify for the American people recent events that have been broadly reported in the media” – a reference to news reports that he wrote private memos detailing meetings in which, the reports say, Trump asked him to drop the FBI’s investigation of former national security adviser Michael Flynn.
Cover-ups have traditionally been a major part of investigations that have threatened previous administrations. Articles of impeachment levied against Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton included allegations of obstruction of justice, as they were suspected of trying to hide other wrongdoing. Special counsels are authorized to investigate any interference with their investigations.

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 06:16 AM
THAT FBI/DoJ "person of interest" is in fact the Trump son-in-law Jared Kuschner "Special Advisor to the President" WHO had lied on his SF86 security form about no Russian contacts...no Russian businesses and no Russian money....


Greg Miller‏
Verifizierter Account
#@gregpmiller
The FBI Russia investigation now reaching directly into White House. Trump adviser person of interest

The Independent‏
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@Independent
Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner 'person of interest in Russia investigation'
http://ind.pn/2qGulqu

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 06:25 AM
The New York Times‏
Verifizierter Account

@nytimes

What President Trump told Russian officials about firing James Comey
http://nyti.ms/2pTMns7#



"I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."

President Trump 10 May 2017 Oval Office

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 06:40 AM
This is the REAL question that must be answered after this is over. WHY did MSM cover "Clinton emails" instead of "Trump's Mob connections"?

WHY did US MSM sit on the Steele Dossier for literally months?? AND why did it take social media to break the story??

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 07:22 AM
Wikileaks: Inside the Farage-Assange-Trump Connection

How Donald Trump’s best friend in Britain—another big fan of Vladimir Putin—put his party at the service at Wikileaks’ Julian Assange.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/19/wikileaks-inside-the-farage-assange-trump-connection?via=twitter_page

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 07:24 AM
POLITICO Magazine‏
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@POLITICOMag
“The president of the United States has a 12-second attention span,” NATO’s Sec.-Gen. told a former senior official

People here think Trump is a laughingstock........and the coming trip is chaos and a circus....

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 07:33 AM
"Trump played down his personal concern about the fighting in Ukraine". If true, a fairly disastrous signal.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0#

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 09:52 AM
This particular proTrump Sheriff was in Moscow at the same time Flynn was and getting briefings from Russian officials as well....

David A. Clarke, Jr.‏
Verifizierter Account
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@SheriffClarke
Folgen

Red Square near the Kremlin with a Russian officer. Met earlier with Russian Foreign Minister who spoke on Mid East.

He has been offered the Asst Directors positon in Homeland Security by Trump WH....

BTW...he has a "thing" about uniforms..maybe because he was never in the military....

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 10:06 AM
Little know election fact..that now comes back to haunt the GOP Senate....

McConnell went high up on FBI's list when he threatened to Comey not to go public before election w/RU meddling op-ed.

Why would he stop something that the WH keeps saying never occurred....???

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 10:24 AM
Market is falling after WashPost scoop that current WH official is of interest in Russia probe -->

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 10:40 AM
Firing Comey had nothing to do with the Russia probe, except Trump told Lavrov that Russia-probe pressure was off.
http://bit.ly/2qCcGSM

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 10:48 AM
So there was no "blowback" on the Trump massive security failure????

REPORT: Israeli intelligence officials were shouting at U.S. counterparts in meetings over Trump's SNAFU
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/19/israeli-intelligence-furious-over-trumps-loose-lips-russia-iran-syria/#

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 10:50 AM
Hate to say this but it actually reflects what many Germans young and old think right now about Trump and his WH...they view him as a threat to Germany and EU.....

German magazine @DerSPIEGEL calls for #Trump to be removed in editorial
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/donald-trump-is-a-menace-to-the-world-opinion-a-1148471.html#…

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 11:08 AM
Asked if Trump's comments could be construed as intent to interfere in the FBI probe, a DOJ official told @dailybeast: “absolutely.”

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 11:17 AM
I'm guessing this was probably the intercept that inspired Yates to reach out to WH counsel

Some say Trump even after firing Flynn was trying to find a place for him somewhere in USG....

This is an utterly striking statement about the man who Trump appointed as his NSA --> Russian officials "regarded Flynn as an ally."

The Russians were right: Flynn's pro-Kremlin stance on allying w/Russia to "fight ISIS" (ie, prop up Assad) is still Trump's go-to position.

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 11:24 AM
WH lawyers believe Trump is safe from impeachment for now- not b/c he hasn't committed any impeachable acts, but b/c GOP still has his back.

This is actually true when one thinks about it.....
Subscribers of the NYT, WaPo, CNN & other social media publications are paying for the investigations and oversight that the U.S. Congress won't conduct.

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 11:56 AM
More than 500 of the 557 govt positions requiring Senate confirmation remain vacant (hard to govern with no staff)
http://reut.rs/2qAzpya

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 04:55 PM
Mueller's broad authority extends to Trump’s business empire, where Russian money & influence likely reside
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article151646582.html#storylink=cpy#

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 05:03 PM
Andrew S. Weiss‏#@andrewsweiss

Trump's "nut job" Comey comments shouldn't overshadow fact he also threw #Ukraine under bus in mtg w Russians
https://nyti.ms/2rAuDyn

Trump's saying he doesn't really care about Russian aggression in #Ukraine is staggering. Pulls rug out from under Western policy.

As I pointed out the other day: fact that Trump team was secretly talking to pro-Moscow Ukraine gray cardinal V.Medvedchuk explains a lot about why Trump's position on #Ukraine/Crimea have been so over the top and aligned with Kremlin talking points

You can re-read that thread and Reuters piece by @nedmparker1 abt secret contacts w Kremlin & judge for yourself

I've shied away from yelling "gotcha" re collusion but it's hard to find another term for Trump's comments abt #Ukraine to FM Lavrov

OUTLAW 09
05-20-2017, 05:09 PM
Here's something. Manafort received money from Ukrainian oligarchs Yanukovych and Firtash that was put into a Caymans offshore account. They used a Cyprus bank to launder it. That Caymans account is what made up the Trump Casino financial umbrella from 2008-2010 for $2.97 billion.

Yanukovych is the former president of Ukraine but I refer to him as an oligarch deliberately.