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Shamrock
04-03-2007, 11:17 PM
Do the British have a order or guidline similar to the US military's Code of Conduct. If anyone knows of such order could you provide a link or info on how to find it.

Thanks
R/
Shamrock

Culpeper
04-20-2007, 12:27 AM
Harry Morant: Shoot straight, you bastards - don't make a mess of it!

Lt. Harry "Breaker" Morant advising his own execution squad during the Boer War after his court martial and sentencing to death by firing squad.

tequila
04-20-2007, 07:58 AM
Awesome movie.

Mondor
04-20-2007, 12:46 PM
In the British Army publication Values and Standards of the British Army (http://www.army.mod.uk/linkedfiles/museums/v_s_soldiers_guide.pdf) and a Commanders' Guide (http://www.army.mod.uk/linkedfiles/museums/v_s_commanders_guide.pdf). Obedience for the law - civil, military and of armed conflict - and the avoidance of conduct that undermines trust, respect or professional ability are listed as "Standards of Conduct".

I have not been able to find anything for the naval forces but I get the impression that there is no formal "Code of Conduct" for anybody other than the US Military.

Values and Standards of the British Army (http://www.army.mod.uk/linkedfiles/museums/v_s_soldiers_guide.pdf) (Ministry of Defence, 2000; Army Code 63812).

RTK
04-20-2007, 12:59 PM
I have the pleasure of working with a British SGM in the Armor School.

I just asked him the same thing. While nothing is written like the US Code of Conduct, they are briefed before deployment as to what is expected of them in case of capture and what they are obligated to say (which is similar to ours: Name, serial, rank, nothing else).

More striking to me, you won't find a METL in a British Army unit either. I found that odd.

tequila
04-20-2007, 01:14 PM
From Rick Atkinson's CRUSADE (http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0395710839/ref=sib_dp_pt/104-5610957-7891905#reader-link), about Desert Storm:


In contrast to the Americans --- who churned out reams of plans, appendixes, annexes, contigencies, and timetables --- the British were almost as relaxed as the French. "I refused to make a plan," Smith later declared. Even as the 1st Division was plunging into the breach, he had not decided whether they would be followed initially by his 7th Brigade or the 4th. The proper course, Smith believed, would manifest itself as the battle unfolded. "Don't worry," he assured Franks, "I'll make it up when I see what the enemy is doing."

TROUFION
04-20-2007, 02:26 PM
Tequila I guess that explains why Gallipoli went so well...:wry:

Stan
04-20-2007, 03:03 PM
By Michelle Malkin
April 05, 2007 01:43 PM



Apropos of the British sailors and marines' release and their humiliation at the hands of Iran, an American officer in Iraq sent me this link to the DoD's code of conduct for US soldiers:

My Army friend writes that the release of the British servicemen "was no coincidence, and was Iran's response to the escalation of measures against its nuclear program." He urges that we open our eyes:

Reader A. e-mails about the code of conduct:

"We had to memorize it in basic. When I got to my unit, we had to recite it whenever we saw the Battalion Commander and he asked us to. I can still recite it to this day and I got out in 1992."


That's just about how I remember my BTC in the mid 70's.

More here:
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/007254.htm

wm
04-20-2007, 04:16 PM
Tequila I guess that explains why Gallipoli went so well...:wry:

Even the best plan in the world can get botched in its execution by poor leadership

Culpeper
04-21-2007, 04:55 AM
BUTCHERED TO MAKE A DUTCHMAN'S HOLIDAY by Harry ("Breaker") Morant




In prison cell I sadly sit,
A d__d crest-fallen chappie!
And own to you I feel a bit-
A little bit - unhappy!


It really ain't the place nor time
To reel off rhyming diction -
But yet we'll write a final rhyme
Whilst waiting cru-ci-fixion!


No matter what "end" they decide -
Quick-lime or "b'iling ile," sir?
We'll do our best when crucified
To finish off in style, sir!


But we bequeath a parting tip
For sound advice of such men,
Who come across in transport ship
To polish off the Dutchmen!


If you encounter any Boers
You really must not loot 'em!
And if you wish to leave these shores,
For pity's sake, DON'T SHOOT 'EM!!


And if you'd earn a D.S.O.,
Why every British sinner
Should know the proper way to go
Is: "ASK THE BOER TO DINNER!"


Let's toss a bumper down our throat, -
Before we pass to Heaven,
And toast: "The trim-set petticoat
We leave behind in Devon."