The Trump impact on US policy (July 2017 on) [Archive]

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 05:35 AM

Moderator's Note

This is a new thread for July 2017 onwards.

The previous thread covering January-June 2017 had 2,127 posts and 89k posts. It has now been closed:The Trump impact on US policy (http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/The%20Trump%20impact%20on%20US%20policy) (ends).

For those that took the time to read thoroughly through and between the lines of the Washington Post article on the Obama response to the Russian hacking and the Russian hacking itself you will notice a referral to the fact that Putin was on tape ordering the hacking and a subtle reference to someone else being on tape....

APPEARS to be that Wapo has one tape and this journalist has heard and been privy to a second tape BOTH confirm and expand on each other...

Paul Ryan Taped With Russian Ambassador On GOP Money#Laundering
https://patribotics.blog/2017/06/09/paul-ryan-taped-with-russian-ambassador-on-gop-money-laundering/

Exclusive: Sources with links to the intelligence community now confirm that a tape exists of Paul Ryan, the Speaker of the House, discussing how Russian money could be funneled without detection to target GOP campaigns, including Ryan’s.
These sources report that Mr. Ryan is also on tape discussing how he can best use and disseminate Wikileaks material that was hacked from the DNC by Russia in order to win both his own election and election for Trump.
Further, sources say, the tape of Mr. Ryan discussing his knowledge of Russia funding the GOP that has previously been published in the Washington Post is in fact a small fragment of a much more damaging tape.
Patribotics exclusively broke the news of that tape #one week before it was released in the mainstream media. In this story of May 11th I reported:
On Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House, normally third in the line of succession, I can report as fact that sources say that Ryan has been legally intercepted, and is on tape, admitting that he knew Russian money was being laundered into the Republican party. Without co-operation pending resignation Ryan may find himself swept up into a RICO prosecution involving the apparatus of the Republican party who accepted laundered Russian money.
A week later Adam Entous at the Washington Post printed his exclusive report on the partial content of that tape.
My sources had clarified, at the time, that this tape was not the same as I had heard previously, namely, that Paul Ryan was directly on tape at the GOP convention discussing money laundering with the Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak. Reince Priebus was on tape doing so, these sources said.

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 05:37 AM

Azor...notice that American Greatness seems to have deliberately not commented on this....if in fact FAKE news.....

For those that took the time to read thoroughly through and between the lines of the Washington Post article on the Obama response to the Russian hacking and the Russian hacking itself you will notice a referral to the fact that Putin was on tape ordering the hacking and a subtle reference to someone else being on tape....

APPEARS to be that Wapo has one tape and this journalist has heard and been privy to a second tape BOTH confirm and expand on each other...

Paul Ryan Taped With Russian Ambassador On GOP Money Laundering
https://patribotics.blog/2017/06/09/paul-ryan-taped-with-russian-ambassador-on-gop-money-laundering/

Exclusive: Sources with links to the intelligence community now confirm that a tape exists of Paul Ryan, the Speaker of the House, discussing how Russian money could be funneled without detection to target GOP campaigns, including Ryan’s.
These sources report that Mr. Ryan is also on tape discussing how he can best use and disseminate Wikileaks material that was hacked from the DNC by Russia in order to win both his own election and election for Trump.
Further, sources say, the tape of Mr. Ryan discussing his knowledge of Russia funding the GOP that has previously been published in the Washington Post is in fact a small fragment of a much more damaging tape.
Patribotics exclusively broke the news of that tape #one week before it was released in the mainstream media. In this story of May 11th I reported:
On Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House, normally third in the line of succession, I can report as fact that sources say that Ryan has been legally intercepted, and is on tape, admitting that he knew Russian money was being laundered into the Republican party. Without co-operation pending resignation Ryan may find himself swept up into a RICO prosecution involving the apparatus of the Republican party who accepted laundered Russian money.
A week later Adam Entous at the Washington Post printed his exclusive report on the partial content of that tape.
My sources had clarified, at the time, that this tape was not the same as I had heard previously, namely, that Paul Ryan was directly on tape at the GOP convention discussing money laundering with the Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak. Reince Priebus was on tape doing so, these sources said.

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 05:46 AM

Wall Street Journal‏
@WSJ

GOP activist Peter Smith, who sought Clinton emails, cited Bannon, Conway in a document

https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-activist-who-sought-clinton-emails-cited-trump-campaign-officials-1498872923?tesla=y&mod=e2tw

AND thoroughly read this article as it ties into the above article

The Time I Got Recruited to Collude with the Russians

By Matt Tait Friday,
June 30, 2017, 10:50 PM
https://lawfareblog.com/time-i-got-recruited-collude-russians

I read the Wall Street Journal’s article yesterday on attempts by a GOP operative to recover missing Hillary Clinton emails with more than usual interest. I was involved in the events that reporter Shane Harris described, and I was an unnamed source for the initial story. What’s more, I was named in, and provided the documents to Harris that formed the basis of, this evening’s follow-up story, which reported that “A longtime Republican activist who led an operation hoping to obtain Hillary Clinton emails from hackers listed senior members of the Trump campaign, including some who now serve as top aides in the White House, in a recruitment document for his effort”:

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 06:15 AM

Azor......Notice also no comment on this either.....and the American Greatness response...

Wall Street Journal‏
@WSJ

GOP activist Peter Smith, who sought Clinton emails, cited Bannon, Conway in a document

https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-activist-who-sought-clinton-emails-cited-trump-campaign-officials-1498872923?tesla=y&mod=e2tw

AND thoroughly read this article as it ties into the above article

The Time I Got Recruited to Collude with the Russians

By Matt Tait Friday,
June 30, 2017, 10:50 PM
https://lawfareblog.com/time-i-got-recruited-collude-russians

I read the Wall Street Journal’s article yesterday on attempts by a GOP operative to recover missing Hillary Clinton emails with more than usual interest. I was involved in the events that reporter Shane Harris described, and I was an unnamed source for the initial story. What’s more, I was named in, and provided the documents to Harris that formed the basis of, this evening’s follow-up story, which reported that “A longtime Republican activist who led an operation hoping to obtain Hillary Clinton emails from hackers listed senior members of the Trump campaign, including some who now serve as top aides in the White House, in a recruitment document for his effort”

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 06:20 AM

Abuse of power..is in fact an impeachment offense....

A source w/ knowledge of NBC/MSNBC legal says that Joe Scarborough has been contacted by Mueller team-it is their intention to interview him

Trump just digs himself even deeper with his own tweets....how can that be from a supposedly "smart" businessman??

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 06:21 AM

WHAT started as a Russian investigation....now it includes obstruction, conspiracy and all manner of things related to Trump WH.

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 06:29 AM

THIS audio recording is EXACTLY WHY Trump did not want anyone from the press to attend his 35,000 USD per seat PRIVATE re-election campaign this week.... (41 mins)

https://soundcloud.com/the-intercept/donald-trump-fundraiser

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 06:35 AM

Rolling Stone's look at Kobach's past work for national disenfranchisement: The GOP's Stealth War Against Voters http://rol.st/2bEYYGb

Kris Kobach Is Leading the Most Insidious Dimension of Trump's Assault on Democracy http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a56056/kris-kobach-election-commission/#

I'm now counting 18 states opposed to Kobach voter data request: CA, CT, IN, KY, MA, MN, NC, NM, NV, NY, OH, OK, RI, TN, UT, VA, VT, WA

Trump's commission on non-existent voter fraud contacted all 50 state AG's. Not one AG has been contacted re. Russian election interference.

REMEMBER Trump publicly told the US he would have a plan to protect the US from cyber attacks in 90 days....well we are now 160 plus days and still no cyber plan.....

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 06:37 AM

Russian Orthodox Jihad: "We have lots of nuclear and bacteriologic weapon. If they corner us, we will open a valve like in Chernobyl".

SO was the Chernobyl an accident and the second hacking this week..."an accident".....

THIS is an interesting statement from the ROC...."bio weapons" are both banned and where to be totally destroyed....so maybe the ROC knows more that the Trump NSC....

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 06:41 AM

U.S. warns businesses of hacking campaign against nuclear, energy firms
http://reut.rs/2tuvrsY

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 06:54 AM

Senate GOP is attempting to either impede the Russian investigation and or smear the acting FBI Director McCabe...

Acting FBI boss McCabe referred to Justice watchdog for new investigation over potential conflicts in Russia case.

https://www.circa.com/story/2017/06/30/sen-grassley-is-asking-the-doj-inspector-general-to-investigate-numerous-federal-probes-into-acting-fbi-director-mccabes-alleged-political-conflicts-of-interest-in-russia-probe

The Chairman is also asking the Inspector General to investigate the ongoing sexual discrimination lawsuit filed by former FBI Special Agent Robyn Gritz, which named McCabe and other FBI officials, who she accused of impeding her work within the bureau.
Gritz's complaint was supported by then former Defense Intelligence Agency director Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn. Flynn, who went on to become President Trump's National Security Advisor, was subsequently fired after highly classified information regarding a conversation he had with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak was leaked to the media.
Flynn's name was captured by federal law enforcement during his phone conversations with Kislyac, but those conversations are considered classified as part of the then ongoing Russia investigation.
Grassley said he was concerned that McCabe would preside over an investigation about Flynn when Flynn was a potentially hostile witnesses against McCabe and the FBI in an unrelated case.

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 11:13 AM

So you need urgently an ally in your quest to throttle NK...BUT THEN you turn around and bash it for trading under agreements already in place with US...

Make sense to anyone other than Trump????

Trump calls for firm response to North Korea, targets Seoul on trade
http://reut.rs/2tvy1Ps

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 11:15 AM

US Intelligence Fear Trump’s First Meeting With Putin

http://thebea.st/2s7xJdM?source=twitter&via=desktop#

Moscow believes its leader, ex-spy master Vladimir Putin, can extract major concessions from President Donald Trump when the two meet for the first time next week, European officials tell The Daily Beast.
The officials say their intelligence indicates Putin thinks he can outmaneuver Trump at the G-20 summit, playing on promises of cooperation on areas like counterterrorism to win concessions like a reduction in the raft of sanctions against Russia.
“When you meet Russia, don’t give anything away for free,” one Western official warned, echoing the fears of many European diplomats ahead of next week’s Trump-Putin meeting on the fringes of the G-20 in Germany.

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 06:49 PM

Fox News‏
@FoxNews

.@KellyannePolls: The president is conveying his ideas through social media "because the middle man can't be trusted."

This is backwards. Twitter reaches only ~ 15pct of population. For a tweet to reach the general population the MSM has to report on it.

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 06:58 PM

FBI SC Mueller JUST keeps adding prosecutor fire power....why is that???

U.S. prosecutor of Sheldon Silver to join special counsel Robert Mueller's probe Into Russian Meddling in Election

Was chief of the corruption unit in Manhattan and who knows Trumps criminal tie ins...........

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/30/business/dealbook/trump-inquiry-russian-election.html

Trump still thinks it is just all a "hoax".....BUT you do not waste the firepower of 14 of the best and brightest in the federal prosecution offices for just a "hoax".....

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 07:06 PM

Conway: Media coverage of Trump ‘neither productive nor patriotic’
http://politi.co/2sr7mUw

“I like the fact that the president uses social media platforms to connect directly with Americans and in this case, what [White House spokeswoman] Sarah Sanders said yesterday is true, that the president normally does not draw first blood. He is a counterpuncher as he said on the campaign trail,” Conway said. “There are personal attacks about his physicalities, about his fitness for office. He’s called a goon, thug, mentally ill, talking about dementia, armchair psychologists all over television every day.
“It doesn’t help the American people to have a president covered in this light,” she continued. “I’m sorry. It’s neither productive nor patriotic. The toxicity is over the top.”

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 07:27 PM

Trump is on a twitter rant again...does he not realize he just digs himself into an ever deepening hole....

Donald J. Trump‏
#@realDonaldTrump

I am extremely pleased to see that @CNN has finally been exposed as #FakeNews and garbage journalism. It's about time!

NOT exactly sure what Trump means by this as CNN is doing great the last time I checked....

Donald J. Trump‏
@realDonaldTrump

Numerous states are refusing to give information to the very distinguished VOTER FRAUD PANEL. What are they trying to hide?

"VERY distinguished panel"??...the panel members are known voter fraud conspiracy theorists about voter fraud and have been for years....believe Trump was

THIS panel as does Trump...ALL believe that 6M votes was fraud and thus Trump did not win the general election.....WHICH he lost by 3M plus votes....

Donald J. Trump‏
@realDonaldTrump

Word is that @Greta Van Susteren was let go by her out of control bosses at @NBC & @Comcast because she refused to go along w/ 'Trump hate!'

NOTE...Trump is now attempting to create the illusion that the entire MSM "hates Trump"....

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 07:32 PM

The full text of Russian foreign minister Lavrov's speech in which he admits Russia is at war in Ukraine http://www.mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/2804842?p_p_id=101_INSTANCE_cKNonkJE02Bw&_101_INSTANCE_cKNonkJE02Bw_languageId=en_GB#…

Russia's foreign minister admits his country is a party to the war in Ukraine. This is from the foreign ministry website.

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 07:39 PM

Amazing: Lavrov admits Russia is a combatant in Eastern Ukraine, despite years of pretending otherwise

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 07:45 PM

WITHOUT this data Trump cannot prove 6M votes were fraud and that he "won" the general election voting NOT Clinton"....

Trump blasts states for refusing to give voter data:
http://reut.rs/2sdvS7o

Kentucky Secretary of State: "Not enough bourbon in Kentucky" to make me give Trump commission voter data
http://hill.cm/nCHuMmM

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 07:57 PM

AND he cannot seem to drop his attack on this MSM program.....

Donald J. Trump‏
#@realDonaldTrump

Crazy Joe Scarborough and dumb as a rock Mika are not bad people, but their low rated show is dominated by their NBC bosses. Too bad!

NOTE...Trump is now going into abuse and bullying mode AGAIN .......AND his wife stated she wanted to work in the area of cyber bullying...maybe she needs to talk to Trump first....

BTW..their viewing numbers are actually high .......

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 07:58 PM

Science division of White House office left empty as last staffers depart
http://cbsn.ws/2scy2ns

WHO needs science WHEN there is not verified climate change....??

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 08:00 PM

Amazing: Lavrov admits Russia is a combatant in Eastern Ukraine, despite years of pretending otherwise

Rus. The original words were "we chose to meddle in the conflict", but "join the fight" is the official traslation into english

Slight change in meaning is it not?????

OUTLAW 09

07-01-2017, 08:31 PM

Rex Tillerson berates White House aide over blocked State Department staffing nominees:

http://washex.am/2s3GSUK

davidbfpo

07-01-2017, 09:21 PM

This is a new thread for July 2017 onwards.

The previous thread covering January-June 2017 had 2,127 posts and 89k posts. It has now been closed:The Trump impact on US policy (http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/The Trump impact on US policy)

A number of posts added today will be moved here in a moment, so this post will not be the first for long.

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 06:48 AM

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 06:52 AM

WHY is this build up of non human bots important....?????

Trump is now claiming to be this master full user of social media and this strong increase of 1.2M "Followers" is being used as his proof....

Someone is paying big bucks to create and control this 1.2M bot network in order to provide "proof" that Trump is what he is claiming to be doing....

"Using social media" to go around MSM and or spamming MSM in his open war on the 1st Amendment...free speech and a free press....

BTW his twitter rants of today and the past days on MSM.....and journalists.......are an attempt to DEFLECT and DISTORT and DISTRACT from a ever increasing reporting on his Russian connections and those of his family and close associates...

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 08:45 AM

Someone on the latest rants and raging using twitter and having 18.5M non human "Followers".....I would not call a "Hemingway".....I would call him something else..."not of sound mind....."

Lewandowski: Trump is the "Hemingway of Twitter"

http://hill.cm/ybDpdyZ

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 08:50 AM

Trump Twitter Wars Continue: New Attack on MSNBC for Firing Greta Van Susteren

President Donald Trump has again lashed out at NBC, this time accusing the network of firing a conservative television personality he felt was more sympathetic to his views.

For the third day in a row, the president launched Twitter attacks Saturday against liberal news station MSNBC, calling out its parent companies NBC and Comcast for letting go former Fox News anchor Greta Van Susteren after less than six months on air.Trump claimed he had heard reports that Susteren was fired for refusing what he believes is a concerted effort by the network to smear his image and discredit his presidency.REMEMBER Trump really only listens to FOX News, Infowars, Breitbart.com and Drudge Reports..by his own statements....

OR to quote Trump......

‘I’m President and They’re Not’: Trump Attacks the Media

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/01/us/politics/trump-tweets-stoke-voter-fraud-claim-and-attack-news-media.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

The fake media is trying to silence us....But we will not let them. Because the people know the truth. The fake media tried to stop us from going to the White House. But I’m president and they’re not.

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 09:14 AM

I am posting this Trump twitter rant series as they are the most perfect form of Russian propaganda use of the Russian 6Ds of propaganda I have seen him tweet in the last weeks...

Russian propaganda uses the concept of setting a "narrative" in this case FAKE NEWS MSM and FRAUD NEWS MSM.....

It is commonly known that if the "narrative" is repeated often enough then even well educated individuals will start to actually "believe" that it is the "truth"......

WATCH Trump use his latest rallies...he is speaking to his base...NOT the entire US for which he is the President of in theory.....

It is that base he so urgently needs to hold together as the results of the coming Russian investigation and or collusion, obstruction, money laundering and cover up might in fact be actually all confirmed and for him to then fight those charges he needs his base voters to believe "his truth"....

WATCH the Trump use of the key words...FRAUD...FAKE....FAKE and FRAUDULENT...not Presidential.....ALL designed to condition his voters to merge their beliefs to those that he Trump is pushing....Trump is basically creating in his voters minds that ALL MSM lies and is FAKE news...

Russian Propaganda 6Ds Principle

Distract....Distort.....Deflect....Dismiss...ALL designed to create Doubt and Distrust.....

WHAT is Trump using from these Russian 6Ds...???

ALL of them....

Donald J. Trump‏
#@realDonaldTrump

My use of social media is not Presidential - it’s MODERN DAY PRESIDENTIAL. Make America Great Again!

Donald J. Trump‏
#@realDonaldTrump

I am thinking about changing the name #FakeNews CNN to #FraudNewsCNN!

Donald J. Trump‏
@realDonaldTrump

The FAKE & FRAUDULENT NEWS MEDIA is working hard to convince Republicans and others I should not use social media - but remember, I won....

....the 2016 election with interviews, speeches and social media. I had to beat #FakeNews, and did. We will continue to WIN!

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 09:46 AM

In understanding Trump's addiction to social media especially Twitter and the need to hold his base of 30% supporters together....they basically really are a unified group of "junkies" if you read slowly this article by National Review a right wing media outlet which I rarely pay much attention to....

BUT with this article which surprises me greatly I totally support the NR on..

ACTUALLY I am rather amazed with the bluntness of the article and for calling a "spade a spade".....

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449145/donald-trump-media-mika-brzezinski-tweet

Junkie Running Dry

Of course Trump needs the media. Some people simply cannot handle the fact that Donald Trump was elected president.

One of those people is Donald Trump. Trump has shown himself intellectually and emotionally incapable of making the transition from minor entertainment figure to major political figure. He is in the strange position of being a B-list celebrity who is also the most famous man in the world.

His recent Twitter attack on Mika Brzezinski of MSNBC’s Morning Joe exemplifies that as much as it does the president’s other by-now-familiar pathologies, notably his strange psychological need to verbally abuse women in physical terms.

Trump may have his problems with women, but it is his unrequited love of the media that is undoing him. “I always tell the president, ‘You don’t need them,’” says Sean Hannity, the self-abasing monkey-butler of the Trump regime. The president, Hannity says, can reach more Americans via Twitter than he could through the conventional media. That isn’t true, of course: Only about one in five Americans uses Twitter. Hannity might be forgiven for not knowing this, a consequence of his much more general habit of not knowing things. But he actually does know the president.

How could he possibly believe that this man — this man — does not need them?

He needs them the way a junkie needs his junk.
NOTE......just a side comment...actually NR was sounding the alarm over the possible election of Trump OVER a year ago and warned what might happen if he was in fact elected for the GOP and the right wing in general as they felt that if Trump was elected and did poorly the GOP and right would take the hit for decades after Trump...

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 09:55 AM

Former House intel staffer: The Trump-Russia probe is the 'successor to Watergate'

http://read.bi/2t40ATc

Actually a number of Trump associates under investigation were members of the Nixon "dirty tricks group" when they were far younger...strange they all of a sudden landed with Trump...

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 09:58 AM

Trumpoganda watch: Marginalization of professional journalism and politics is how Putin began the overhaul of Russian political system.

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 10:00 AM

@realDonaldTrump It's really scary that someone with nuclear weapons is not adult enough to cope with being criticized on a time-wasting TV show.

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 10:02 AM

Trump twitter account has added another 100,000 "Followers" in two days..a research check on those accounts INDICATE they are ALL non human bots...many belong to an identified bot army being paid for by someone with money to burn and they are under control from two servers..one located inside Russia the second one has not been identified as of yet...

This is an example of the automated Twitter bot trolls working in Germany and it is exactly the same way in US even using English...

Wow!
This really works.
An automated #Kremlin troll network reacts to certain terms on @twitter with propaganda replies.

BUT the Russian AI is not working as well as they planned it would..as there have been some examples of automated bots replying to an automated bot....

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 10:20 AM

One of the major blogsites that Trump gets his information from is the Alex Jones run "Infowars".....BTW Jones during a divorce hearing when asked if his profession is a "journalist"...stated no he was not a journalist but rather a "performance artist".....

WELL one of the FAKE stories he has been pushing lately is....

Is NASA Hiding Children on Mars.....seriously.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/07/01/no-alex-jones-nasa-is-not-hiding-kidnapped-children-on-mars-nasa-says/?utm_term=.3cf453d43668

SO WHILE Trump bashes MSM as being FAKE and FRADULENT THEN he watches reports such as this?????

Make sense to anyone.....

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 10:25 AM

Several casualties aftermath #SAA terrorists carried out the 3rd Chemical Attack on #Zamalka
July 2

WELL so much for the US warning to not use CWs.....Trump WH claimed success in supposedly stopping attacks such as this one....

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 10:32 AM

Bill Clinton eloquent on Europe, Germany, Kohl, the West. Reminder of what US presidents used to sound like.

Well worth listening to when we see exactly how Trump acts today as a US President...how in this speech Clinton uses the words of "tear down"....NOTICE Clinton spoke complete sentences...Trump cannot...
https://youtu.be/Bses9QRRyIk

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 10:47 AM

AND that Trump FP is again exactly what...????

Russia wage political war against the West.
Is anybody fighting back or even defending themselves?

http://www.nato.int/docu/review/20

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 10:50 AM

This is an example of the automated Twitter bot trolls working in Germany and it is exactly the same way in US even using English...

Wow!
This really works.
An automated #Kremlin troll network reacts to certain terms on @twitter with propaganda replies.

BUT the Russian AI is not working as well as they planned it would..as there have been some examples of automated bots replying to an automated bot....

Such campaigns are regular, just open the timeline of any bot and you will see all their previous campaigns :D

It's just one of the hundred of automated bot pools currently working Twitter as well as FB....

There is an increasing number now supporting Trump and the US alt right ie white nationalists...

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 11:04 AM

Trump's speech yesterday to specifically invited proTrump veterans....

"We will not allow the government to censor sermons," Trump tells veterans in D.C.

...ummm, that's not a thing that was happening.

BUT WAIT.....

Trump wants to abolish the Johnson Amendment and let churches become super PACs:
http://www.newsweek.com/house-republicans-johnson-amendment-630668#…

"As long as I'm president, no one is going to stop you* from practicing your faith," Trump tells veterans in D.C.
*you = Christians

Next sentence: Trump says "radical Islamic terrorism" is the single greatest threat to religious liberty.

"We need to make sure people who enter this country share our values," Trump says 2 seconds later.

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 11:05 AM

@realDonaldTrump should pay attention when he goes to Arlington. There are many different headstones representing varying religions and ethnic groups.

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 11:06 AM

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 11:13 AM

Well worth reading this as Trump is being sued in Federal Court over exactly that topic by three different groups....

Reading the Office of Legal Counsel on Emoluments: Do Super-Rich Presidents Get a Pass?
http://www.lawfareblog.com/reading-office-legal-counsel-emoluments-do-super-rich-presidents-get-pass#…

Jane Chong via @lawfareblog

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 12:21 PM

The White House is playing a game of chicken with the media

The president and his aides do not want to be the ones to pull the plug on press briefings. So the administration is making the situation so untenable that reporters just might stop covering them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/02/the-white-house-is-playing-a-game-of-chicken-with-the-media/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_fix-media-815am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.61d5e8be6372

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 12:42 PM

Russia's state TV: Perhaps Washington, using informal channels, is telling terrorists in Syria to fake chem attack, so Assad cld be targeted

AND the Trump FP towards Russia is again what exactly....

WAIT Trump is busy on twitter attacking US MSM....

Russia's state TV: Trump is targeting #Syria, based on fake info.
His only evidence in the past—fake photos brought in by sniveling Ivanka.

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 12:48 PM

Little known fact that Trump voters have not really heard about.....

Trump received his first intel briefing about Russia hacking/meddling ON AUGUST 17, but he continued to DENY it throughout the election.

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 12:50 PM

Andrew Cuomo‏
@NYGovCuomo

NY refuses to perpetuate the myth voter fraud played a role in our election. We will not comply with this Trump request.

BUT WAIT.....

Not even Congress could empower Kobach to compel them: Printz v. U.S.(1997) forbids such federal commandeering of states.

President who won't release his tax returns wants to publish every registered voter's social security number, DOB, and party affiliation and number of times voting...

OUTLAW 09

07-02-2017, 03:42 PM

HAS the President of the Us finally and completely reverted to a true THREE year old...???

President Trump shared a video Sunday on Twitter of himself slamming WWE President Vince McMahon to the ground and punching him with the CNN logo superimposed over McMahon’s head, escalating his recent attacks aimed at the news media.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tweets-video-slamming-punching-cnn-145733032.html

The footage, taken from “WrestleMania 23” in 2007, shows Trump approaching McMahon outside of the ring, using a clothesline move to knock him down, and punching him in the head before turning to walk away. The altered clip mocking CNN recently appeared on a Reddit.com message board.
The president’s tweet included a pair of disparaging hashtags: “#FraudNewsCNN” and “#FNN.”“It is a sad day when the president of the United States encourages violence against reporters,” the network said in a statement. “Clearly, [White House press secretary] Sarah Huckabee Sanders lied when she said the president had never done so.

The network added: “Instead of preparing for his overseas trip, his first meeting with Vladimir Putin, ‎dealing with North Korea and working on his health care bill, he is involved in juvenile behavior far below the dignity of his office. We will keep doing our jobs. He should start doing his.”
Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
#FraudNewsCNN #FNN

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07-02-2017, 03:48 PM

ON THIS DAY THESE EVENTS OCCURRED.......

On this day in 1776, Continental Congress resolves "these United Colonies are & of right ought to be Free & Independent States"

On this day in 1862, President Lincoln signs act granting land for state agricultural colleges.

On this day in 1890, Congress passes Sherman Antitrust Act, a landmark federal statute in U.S. antitrust law.

On this day in 1921, President Warren G. Harding signed a joint congressional resolution declaring the end of war with Germany.

On this day in 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson signs Civil Rights Act & Voting Rights Act into law.

On this day in 2017, President Donald Trump posts a meme about his wrestling and CNN on Twitter.

AND this is the President of the US?????

Maybe actually just the President of a third world country

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07-02-2017, 03:51 PM

Donald J. Trump‏
@realDonaldTrump

My use of social media is not Presidential - it’s MODERN DAY PRESIDENTIAL. Make America Great Again!

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07-02-2017, 03:58 PM

Response from US Congressman...

Ted Lieu
✔
@tedlieu
Dear dumb as a rock @realDonaldTrump: The news media LOVES that you use social media. It jacks up their ratings & helps Special Counsel.

As @dlippman has reported in the past, some news orgs have quietly been ramping up security over past year. Trump tweet is partly why.

@SHSanders45 3 days ago: "The President in no way form or fashion has ever promoted or encouraged violence."

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07-02-2017, 04:06 PM

BUT WAIT.........appears it is OK for the President of the US to "act out"....this is the work of a juvenile...not even an adult.....

This Week‏
@ThisWeekABC

Homeland Security Adviser Thomas Bossert on Trump's CNN tweet: "No one would perceive that as a threat. I hope they don't."

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07-02-2017, 04:07 PM

Those of us journalists who live and work in Eastern Europe have a pretty good idea of where this is headed if it continues.

ABC News Politics
✔
@ABCPolitics
.@ananavarro on Trump's CNN tweet: "It is an incitement to violence. He is going to get someone killed in the media."

WELCOME to the new Trump world of dismantling US democracy and he is on the way of achieving this main goal in the name of Russian non linear war against the US...

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07-02-2017, 04:15 PM

"The speed with which we're recapitulating the decline and fall of Rome is impressive. What took Rome centuries we're achieving in months," tweeted Bill Kristol, a conservative commentator and editor-at-large of The Weekly Standard.

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07-02-2017, 04:40 PM

Russia was behind global cyber attack, Ukraine says

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-cyber-attack-ukraine-petya-telebots-blackenergy-sbu-cadbury-a7819501.html#

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07-02-2017, 04:40 PM

Ahead of the first Putin-Trump meeting, Russian State TV says this about Donald Trump:

"We don't know what he's thinking or preparing."

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07-02-2017, 04:56 PM

"Some WH advisers said that they were frustrated the Brzezinski feud overtook the president’s fight with CNN."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/why-some-inside-the-white-house-see-trumps-media-feud-as-winning/2017/06/30/3ee9ec72-5da5-11e7-a9f6-7c3296387341_story.html?utm_term=.c0e73d67af8b#…

Backdrop this against POTUS aides insisting he wants to talk about policy and media isn't interested

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07-02-2017, 05:04 PM

NOW Trump and his supporters are openly preaching "a social war".....

The head of the NRA said: "academic elites, political elites, and media elites. These are America’s greatest domestic threats"

BUT WAIT..I thought it was those "radical Islamic terrorists"....

1. Mao bragged, "Emperor Shih Huang of the China Dynasty.. had buried alive 460 scholars only, but we have buried alive 46,000 scholars."

2. The Khmer Rouge murdered anyone who wore eyeglasses on the assumption that they could read and were an intellectual

3. Franco was violently anti-intellectual, which is why your favorite writers were all off fighting the Spanish civil war.

4. The Night of the Long Batons where libraries were burnt, and academics ousted from housing ushered in Onganía's dictatorship in Argentina

5. "When I hear the word culture I reach for my revolver." (By Nazi playwright Hanns Johst.)

6. Lenin's regime began by exiling 220 prominent intellectuals on "philosopher's ships."

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07-02-2017, 05:11 PM

Russian TV still sympathetic to Donald Trump. Anchor Dmitry Kiselev says POTUS is suffering "ferocious pressure" & "unprecedented hounding".

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07-02-2017, 05:18 PM

A Foreign Service Officer just told me "Tillerson is tired, frustrated and very unhappy.

It's not a question of if he leaves but when".

WHY.....US FP is being driven by Bannon and Trump's son-in-law.......

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07-02-2017, 05:26 PM

Someone should do an analysis of American companies doing business in Russia, especially in energy, and donating to House GOP leadership and to the Trump campaign.

The list would be rather long and would surprise a lot of people as well as the sheer amounts of money beig passed around....

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07-02-2017, 06:45 PM

Trumps meme actually came from Reddit.....REALLY worth reading ..........

Trump's CNN body-slam video appears to have gained traction from a controversial Reddit user
http://www.businessinsider.de/trump-cnn-video-reddit-hanassholesolo-twitter-gif-rthedonald-2017-7?utm_content=buffercc7b3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer&r=US&IR=T

On Sunday morning, the Reddit user celebrated that Trump had tweeted out his meme: "Wow!! I never expected my meme to be retweeted by the God Emporer himself!!!"

Many in the subreddit, which has over 441,000 members, took it as validation that the president reads the pro-Trump community that has long promoted alt-right views attacking Islam, minorities, and immigrants. HanA--holeSolo is a frequent participant of such conversations.
In the past, r/The_Donald's have aggressively gamed Reddit's algorithms to see pro-Trump content rise to the top of the site, and have sometimes engaged in abusive behavior against the volunteer moderators and members of other communities on the site — causing significant disruption. In December, Reddit promised reforms to crack down on its most abusive members in the wake of attacks on its CEO.Reminder: 28 people were injured in a shooting at an Arkansas club.

POTUS has attacked the media again. He remains silent on the shooting.

This is the guy who created the meme Trump tweeted out today. Trump's making him a celebrity in his online circles.

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07-02-2017, 06:50 PM

BREAKING: Twitter declares Trump's tweet depicting him brutally assaulting "CNN" is within its Terms of Service. All journalists, take note.

Twitter lack of actions in the face of automated bots being used in information warfare and used by Russian trolls SOMEHOW never gets addressed.....

Maybe it is that Russian oligarch investment into Twitter of 800M USDs....

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07-02-2017, 07:12 PM

Opinion: "You can never be sure of anything that comes out of this White House. Except the cruelty."

Cruella de Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/01/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-cruelty-dowd.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

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07-02-2017, 07:30 PM

AND the Trump ME FP is again what......

BREAKING - Saudi government sources state there are internal demands to invade Qatar to "liberate it from the al-Thani family rule"

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07-02-2017, 07:37 PM

Trump has brilliantly changed the subject from “Is he a Russian intelligence asset” to “Is he a dangerously violent lunatic?"

davidbfpo

07-02-2017, 09:37 PM

Following a number of posts I have closed this thread to enable a review, which may take a couple of days.

What is the theme here, the arena clearly shows this:
Politics In the Rear National will and developments back home for the intervening nations.

SWJ's Forum is not for political discussion; there are I expect being on "this side of the pond" many places in the USA that cater for that and I exclude Twitter etc. That is one reason we have survived and have considerable value to the 'Small Wars' community.

We aim to be an 'online discussion board', not for individual(s) to dominate.

Posts that refer to 'national will' etc should be retained, pending re-opening. If they appear elsewhere on SWJ they will be deleted.

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07-03-2017, 05:28 AM

It seems that some at SWJ feel that the use by Russian info warfare is one discussion item BUT the use by the US President of the same tactics as the Russians and the intertwining of US al right ie white nationalist bots, and bot nets is not a discussion basis.....

The accusations of Russian collusion whole still being investigated and not commented on by FBI SC Mueller although there are now 140 FBI investigators and 16 top flight Federal prosecutors should say a lot more than it seems to say to many Americans.

BUT the threat and use of info warfare by Trump and his alt right supporters is just as dangerous as the use of Russian info warfare directed at the US.....

RMEMBER Russian info warfare is composed of two key cornerstones....

1. cyber warfare
2. info warfare

Here's an interesting thread - folks at /r/The_Donald discussing/helping one another with bot creation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5a2amd/botmakers_of_rthe_donald_i_need_your_help_getting/#…

NOTE...Trump twitter account "Followers" has increased 100,000 in under 24 hours...all automated bots created, paid for and managed not in the US....

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07-03-2017, 02:06 PM

Pro-Trump Twitter operatives market paid tweets

http://politi.co/2ug4ozs

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07-03-2017, 02:09 PM

In order to fully understand Russian non linear warfare which actually supports Russian political warfare in this case fully directed at the US you must understand the eight phases of Russian non linear warfare....

BUT the two key elements that support the eight phases we are seeing right now in the US.....and in Europe

1. cyber warfare
2. information warfare .....information warfare also has two parts
a. weaponizing information in general meaning...completely distorting the term "Truth".....to actually mean to people FAKE.....or "alternative truth"
b. weaponizing social media ie FB, Instrgram, Reddit, Twitter etc.

The Russian non linear warfare has eight distinct phases. The first and second phases consist of non-military asymmetric warfare. They include information warfare, psychological, ideological, diplomatic, and economic measures, but also special operations conducted to mislead political and military leaders. Coordinated measures are carried out by diplomatic channels, media, top government and military agencies; they include leaking false data, orders, directives, and instructions. The third phase’s objective is to consolidate the first two, by intimidating, deceiving, or bribing government and military officers, with the objective of making them abandon their duties. The fourth phase is the one including the “polite green men”. It encompasses destabilizing propaganda to increase discontent among the population, boosted by the arrival of bands of militants to escalate subversion. Only with the fifth phase military action per se begins, although still in an indirect way. It consists of establishing no-fly zones over the country to be attacked, imposing blockades, and extensively using private military companies in close cooperation with armed opposition units. This is as far as events have progressed in Ukraine at this moment.

The sixth phase is the beginning of employing direct military measures, with large-scale reconnaissance and subversive missions, including but not limited to special operations forces. The seventh phase is a combination of targeted information campaign, electronic warfare, and aerospace operations, combined with the use of high-precision weapons (long-range artillery, possibly weapons based on new physical principles, including microwaves, radiation/radiology, non-lethal biological weapons). The eighth phase’s aims are to roll over the remaining points of resistance and destroy surviving enemy units.

Only when one fully understands the above and is fully able to process that say the President of the US has roughly 18M non human "Followers"...then you understand Russian non linear warfare.....

If you fully understand and can actually see Trump and proTrump voters conducting info war even in the US against all those that do not support Trump......THEN you fully understand Russian non linear warfare.....THIs though requires one to jump over a shadow...the shadow that yes even Americans can be and are willingly controlled by Russian propaganda and misinformation....no questions asked.

And that is inherently dangerous for US democracy.......and the core question is how is that possible.....

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07-03-2017, 05:02 PM

To Make Your Conspiracy Theory Legit, Just Find an 'Expert'

https://www.wired.com/2017/05/conspiracy-theory-experts/

In some neighborhoods of the internet, all it takes to start a conspiracy theory is Photoshop, a webcam, and confidence. Susli—aka PartisanGirl—has thrived in that environment, parlaying a college chemistry degree and a series of conspiracy-minded YouTube videos into a new kind of internet authority. But when conspiratorial musings bubble up into the mainstream web or cable news, it’s not because Don Lemon or Ashleigh Banfield took PartisanGirl seriously. To make it in the major leagues, a conspiracy theory—or any other kind of hoax—has to find a voice with a mainstream claim to credibility. A voice like Postol's.

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07-03-2017, 05:04 PM

April Facebook review of how its website was used to sway the US election. Lucid on what "fake news" really is.

https://fbnewsroomus.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/facebook-and-information-operations-v1.pdf …

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07-03-2017, 05:12 PM

Cynthia Storer‏ @CindyStorer
The NRA is feeding an us vs them narrative of the kind that fuels all extremist movements. I should know.

NOTE
Cindy was a CIA terrorism analyst. She was the first to warn of Al-Qaeda in the early 90s. She developed the CIA's radicalization model.

The NRA recruitment video that is even upsetting gun owners

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/06/29/the-nra-recruitment-video-that-is-even-upsetting-gun-owners/?tid=ss_tw-amp&utm_term=.b2f0a8b3c573

But these are the opening lines of a new recruitment video by the National Rifle Association of America that is headlined by conservative television host Dana Loesch. The Blaze personality and NRA spokeswoman doesn’t hold back, painting a stark picture of the U.S. political climate that some have interpreted as an ad designed to provoke fear, if not incite violence.

“I’m an old white guy and a life member, but this BS is disgusting,” Facebook user Eric Eugene Rush commented under the post. “When you spew crap like this, you don’t speak for me anymore. I try to avoid doing things on the spur of the moment, but I’ll be thinking about canceling my membership.”

“Jeeeeesus … it almost looks like you’re encouraging violence against demonstrators,”

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07-03-2017, 05:20 PM

Reddit user behind Trump's anti-CNN video has history of anti-Semitism, Islamophobia
http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.799112 …

Russian propaganda uses the 6Ds Propaganda Principles

Distor...Distract...Deflect...Dismiss ALL designed to create Doubt and Distrust.....

NOTE..while all of the US MSM jumped on the Trump CNN video NO US MSM carried the background as to exactly where that vidoe first came from.....

Social media had it identified within 20 mminutes.....and pointed to the anti Semitic Reddit site carrying.....

NOTICE the first MSM mention of this anti Semitic blog site came from Israel not the US...why is that????

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07-03-2017, 05:34 PM

“It is beyond stupid." Experts warn Trump voter-fraud panel’s data request a gold mine for hackers

http://politi.co/2ufROjk

Is it not strange that a Republican contractor...SCL...located in UK and formerly owned by Bannon Trump's special advisor and then sold to the Mercer family that owns big data company Cambridge Analytica also parked in UK posted the voting data and personal data of 200M US voters unsecured on an Amazon cloud server for 21 days and then it got "stolen".......

BTW..no one and that includes SCL "knows" who stole the data......

AND not a single MSM loud cry .......nothing but silence BUT this voter data with far less persoanl information get massive MSM coverage?????

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07-03-2017, 06:47 PM

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07-03-2017, 06:58 PM

Can anyone explain just why it is that Trump tends to use the same tactics as Russian info warfare especially the Russian 6Ds Propaganda Principles.....

Distort...Deflect...Distract...Dismiss...ALL designed to create Doubt and Distrust.......

So in this set of Trump tweets.......how many of the 6Ds is Trump actually using?????

Why does a US President Resort to Russian info war tactics????

@CNN's ratings are at a five-year high in several key categories
http://bit.ly/2sFwpON

Donald J. Trump‏
@realDonaldTrump · 1. Juli

I am thinking about changing the name #FakeNews CNN to #FraudNewsCNN!

Donald J. Trump‏
@realDonaldTrump · 1. Juli

I am extremely pleased to see that @CNN has finally been exposed as #FakeNews and garbage journalism. It's about time!

Donald J. Trump‏
@realDonaldTrump

Fake News CNN is looking at big management changes now that they got caught falsely pushing their phony Russian stories. Ratings way down!

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07-03-2017, 07:10 PM

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07-03-2017, 07:29 PM

Why is it important to understand the Russian non linear warfare...Putin has three strategic geo political goals in his political war with the US....

1. damage and discredit NATO
2. damage and discredit EU
3. completely disconnect the Us from ME and Europe........

A possible fourth goal...completely disconnect US from Germany....

With that in mind...does in fact Trump assist Putin in achieving these goals...????

Valid point in that he drives his tweets as a form of info warfare using the Russian 6Ds Propaganda Principles of ......

Distract......Distort...Deflect...Dismiss.......AL L designed to create Doubt and Distrust......

When reading his tweets always ask which of the 6Ds is Trump using and what is the "narrative" he is trying to establish.....

Facebook admits they were a vector for Putin's elect-Trump intelligence operation.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/facebook-for-the-first-time-acknowledges-election-manipulation/ …

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07-04-2017, 06:56 AM

I keep posting on the fundmental elements of the Russian non linear warfare and information warfare as the Russians truly believe that through cyber operations and info warfare they can actually shift the belief patterns of an entire society...

What was employed by the GOP using "big data2 was is referred to as "voting social engineering" and it was carried out by the Trump son-in-law via an IT company in San Antonio using input from two UK big data companies SCL and Cambridge Analytica...both owned to a degree by Trump special advisor Bannon before he sold them to the billionaire trump supporter Mercer...Bannon still sits on their boards....

WHY do I bring this up...even the WH chief of Staff admits this....

Reince Priebus‏
#@Reince
With a strong candidate in @POTUS & @GOP revolutionary data program, Republicans carried WI for 1st time in 30 years

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/republicans-say-data-operation-helped-trump-win-wisconsin-will-be/article_577fff25-e4b7-5457-a231-122a66af71cb.html

The data program was especially helpful in October, when the party noticed that Trump had lost ground in Wisconsin compared to the previous month#— and specifically targeted voters who had drifted away in an effort to bring them back, Parnitzke said.
That wouldn't have been possible without a "voter scores" data operation that has been built, expanded and refined over the course of each election since it was launched after Democratic President Barack Obama's re-election in 2012.

This GOP data concept involved the targeted use of specific social media narratives much in the Russian vain of using trolls and automated bots to push a propaganda narrative.....

REMEMBER....it was SCL that suddenly "lost 200M US voter datasets" on an unsecured Amazon could server..."lost to whom2 is not known at this time nor is SCL talking about it....

REMEMBER both SCL and CA are under FBI SC Mueller investigation reference the Russian hacking of the election and of 21 State voting databases......and the potential theft of information from a US healthcare company....

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07-04-2017, 07:24 AM

If Trump doesn't raise election interference with Putin, he's inviting more in 2018
http://wapo.st/2uDkhis?tid=ss_tw-bottom&utm_term=.b8ff146e0049#

Currently the US still has not seen the Trump promised within 90 days cyber defense plan.....NOR has Trump actually openly and publicly stated yes he knows Russia hacked the US election and voting databases in 21 states.....

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07-04-2017, 08:54 AM

Maine Secretary of State, who serves on Trump election commission, refuses to turn over voter data to Kris Kobach. 40+ states now resisting

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07-04-2017, 08:57 AM

AND from the current leader of the KKK who is totally peaceful and does not utter a single word of hate.....or racism...or is anti Muslim .......or anti immigrant....and this is not propaganda??

David Duke‏#
@DrDavidDuke

I have literally been the target of "Journalist" terrorism for 50yrs. The climate of hated/violence your profession has created is shameful.

The leader of the KKK critiquing journalists for attacking the KKK....

Information warfare comes in various colors and forms.....US or Russian and lately they are sharing the same goals for some strange reason....

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07-04-2017, 09:03 AM

CNN is reporting that Trump won’t raise Russia’s attempt to throw our election when he meets Putin, even though Russia will try again in ’18

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07-05-2017, 03:56 AM

This is interesting for a number of reasons and gives maybe some insight into why individuals tend to say go "alt right" in an attempt to impress and or in an existing group of like believers...

Actually an excellent example of why and how "propaganda and or disinformation" works via influence......

REMEMBER the Trump CNN video...it came from a sub Reddit account T_Donald which is a heavy proTrump account similar to many alt right ie white nationalist proTrump twitter accounts.....

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/redditor-apologizes-for-creating-cnn-takedown-video-tweeted-by-trump/ar-BBDLWxW?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Trump takes down CNN in mock fight video

Han***holeSolo, the Reddit user behind the now-famous video showing Trump body-slamming the CNN logo, apologized#Tuesday in a post on the website.

In a lengthy post on the popular social media site, Solo apologized for past anti-Semitic posts, and to CNN for the video.

"I would like to apologize to the members of the Reddit community for getting this site and this sub embroiled in a controversy that should never have happened," Solo wrote.
"I would also like to apologize for the posts made that were racist, bigoted, and anti-semitic. I am in no way this kind of person, I love and accept people of all walks of life and have done so for my entire life."

So exactly what affected this end user to go "alt right" in order to impress and join a so called like minded group.......

What were the series of bot tweets and or narratives that "spoke to him" to push him into this area that he claims he never was in????

That is why the Russian and now Trump influence operations are so effective....

NOW couple that with "big data" and the concept of "voting social engineering" and information operations that push such social media messaging and narratives....targeting end users such as above....

AND further.....

"The meme was created purely as#satire, it was not meant to be a call to violence against CNN or any other news affiliation," they wrote.#"I had no idea anyone would take it and put sound to it and then have it put up on the President's Twitter feed."
Solo went on, calling trolling an "addiction" and urging other Redditors to reject bullying.
"Trolling is nothing more than bullying a wide audience," they wrote. "Don't feed your own self-worth based upon inflicting suffering upon others online just because you are behind a keyboard."
"We as#redditors#and as Americans are better than this."
The Reddit user also wrote that despite the meme's content, they have respect for the First Amendment and reporters.
"Our first amendment protects the press from things like violence, and we as American citizens should respect that even if the opinions of the press are not in line with our own," Solo wrote.
"I have the highest respect for the journalist community and they put their lives on the line every day with the jobs that they do in reporting the news."

BUT here is where I seriously doubt what he is actually saying.....

WHY...this same individual immediately after it was known that Trump had used his meme.......he "boasted" on the same site "the Great Imperial Emperor2 had used his meme and he was honoured by that.....and was cheered on by those on this specific Reddit site.....

BTW he used the term trolling.....an interesting comment which I will comment on later...

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07-05-2017, 04:26 AM

MORE examples of just how Trump uses social media much as the Russian's use social media.....for propaganda and disinformation or in this case...just outright lies.....

Donald J. Trump‏
@realDonaldTrump

Gas prices are the lowest in the U.S. in over ten years! I would like to see them go even lower.

What is the "narrative" that he is trying to create..."see I as President have been in a short period able to lower your personal gase price to level never seen in the last ten years"....REMEMBER he keeps repeating over and over "I have achieved far more in a short period than any other President"...meant here is Obama....THUS Trump tweets like this are designed to re-enforce that "narrative".....

When "fake" is being used...the user attempts to use a tad bit of "truth"..in this case current gas prices to establish the tweet as "valid truth"...

The target audience then picks it up and uses it to justify their own world views as it "fits nicely" into that world view...

WHAT is though not told the target audience is actually the missing piece of information that would indicate what they are reading is in fact "fake and or a blatant lie"....

The user of this type of propaganda whether Russian and or Trump counts on the fact that the reader and or target audience will never see the counter balancing "truth"....

THUS we see an "alternative truth" being created and used in the place of straight simple facts that anyone can check and use....

NOW one can see how social media is being used as a form of "weaponized information" by both Russians and Trump......there is no difference between the two.....

Chart is taken from the government site EIA part of DoE.....

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07-05-2017, 05:12 AM

It is now interesting to see Wikileaks getting into this info warfare tussle on Reddit......and involving CNN...WHICH Assange immediately attacks...

REMEMBER the servers and Hostkey for those Wikileaks servers sit inside Russia under the control of a known Russian oligarch tied to RIS......and WL has constantly released hacked info from the Russian state sponsored hacking group APT 28....and "Shadowbrokers"......who hacked NSA......

From Wikileaks a now known Russian RIS media outlet and Russian hacking center......
Julian Assange‏#@JulianAssange
When Trump goes low CNN goes lower: threatens to dox artist behind "CNN head" video if he makes fun of them again
http://archive.is/o7izm#selection-1233.0-1233.73#…

NOTICE the WL term "artist" for creating a meme.....

Julian Assange‏#
@JulianAssange

CNN just committed a crime violating § 135.60 of the New York criminal code "coercion" http://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-135-60.html#…
https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/841825706720038913#…

WL with this single tweet has itself admitted to violating the NY law they accuse CNN of doing BUT this time 9,000 times with their release of hacked emails on just about anyone.....

NOTICE the CNN statement........they would "unmask" the name only if the individual violates his own apology....

WL "unmasks" names every time they release Russian hacked emails.....

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07-05-2017, 05:24 AM

When one does an analysis of Russian non linear warfare one tends to not focus on Russian crime groups and how they are intertwined into Russia non linear warfare and Russian cyber warfare...

CRIMINTERN: HOW THE KREMLIN USES RUSSIA’S CRIMINAL NETWORKS IN EUROPE
Mark Galeotti
http://www.ecfr.eu/page/-/ECFR208_-_CRIMINTERM_-_HOW_RUSSIAN_ORGANISED_CRIME_OPERATES_IN_EUROPE02. pdf

Quote in the article that one needs to fully understand.....

"In Russia we have power and protection...in Europe we have wealth and comfort"........

This quote also applies to the US....especially now in the Trump Russian connections investigation.....

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mueller-probe-could-draw-focus-to-russian-crime-operations/ar-BBDLoDX?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Something that is often overlooked in Russian non linear warfare is the key Russian "soft power"......money..."black money"....and plenty of it.....

IMPORTANT NOTE

One just needs to see how many Federal prosecutors on the SC Mueller Russian Trump investigation team have been directly involved in US Russian organized crime court cases and how many of these prosecutors speak Russian to understand one part of the SC Mueller investigation of Trump, his family and his associates....

It has always been...criminal meaning money laundering, collusion and cover up....

We are way way past anything that was conducted by Nixon during WaterGate....as it involves an outside foreign power....that is directly conducting a political war with the US using non linear warfare tactics....

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07-05-2017, 08:45 AM

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07-05-2017, 09:28 AM

NOW the proTrump alt right ie white nationalists swing into action.....

Mike Cernovich #
Verified account
@Cernovich

How brave of CNN, a multi-billion dollar corporation, to go after a private citizen.

NOTE
Cernovich is involved as well in the SC Mueller FBI Russian connection investigation as someone who has extremely close ties to the Russian botnet and troll networks that are pushing propaganda and disinformation into the US...ANd he was involved in disseminating the hashtag Marconleaks after WikiLeaks leaked the hacked email account of the French President Marcon.....

AND Cernovich has had extremely close ties to the Le Pen Front National during the French election....

andrew kaczynski #
Verified account
@KFILE

CNN specifically choose not to reveal this guy's identity and to say we threatened anyone is a total lie.

"HanAssholeSolo" posted his apology before we *ever* spoke him. He called us afterwards to apologize further.

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07-05-2017, 09:40 AM

Cernovich then started the twitter hashtag.....CNNBlackmail..........

The twitter hashtag CNNBlackmail when you conduct analysis of it is a bot pushed twitter trending event right now....this time bot meaning humans not automated computer controlled bot networks.....

The "outrage machine" is increasingly a literal term.

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07-05-2017, 09:43 AM

Example of just how a normal American Congressman also et "fooled2 by proTrump alt right ie white nationalists driving a twitter hashtag ......

AND he never even checked for the "truth"...just twittered away without thinking......

Scott Taylor‏
Verified account
#@Scotttaylorva

@CNN U basically coerce apology & threaten release of identity if something changes? Pretty sure a line is crossed here. #CNNBlackmail

This is a U.S. congressman accusing @CNN of blackmail, because they accepted the apology from the meme creator instead of filing a lawsuit.

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07-05-2017, 10:09 AM

SIDE NOTE:

Orchestrated efforts to discredit the US MSM media often precede bad news for Trump/assoc's

There is a serious rumint out there since yesterday that in fact Washington Post is sitting on a major breaking story tying Trump to Russia that they are holding back due to IS requests to not complicate the SC Mueller investigation then they will be allowed to publish the story....contains an audio tape of Trump and others....

Might actually explain the Trump twitter rage against MSM the last week or so as he knows he must swing his base into not believing a single thing published by MSM....

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07-05-2017, 10:44 AM

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND......

NRA just released a new ad....that is part authoritarian, part incitement to violence, part call for a physical civil war against liberals.

BUT no apology is being issued for this alleged call to violence.....

EVEN the NRA has it's "Russian connections".......

https://medium.com/@LaddEveritt/from-russia-with-love-for-the-nra-ffc69088fe41

From Russia with Love for the#NRA

It all started with a Russian mobster. Now the gun lobby is buddy-buddy with Moscow and attacking anyone who dares question the Trump-Putin nexus.

David Keene in 2011. Keene, the former ACU chair, is arguably the most powerful and politically influential president the NRA has ever#hard.
The National Rifle Association’s relationship with Russia dates back to 2011, when conservative Nashville lawyer G. Kline Preston IV introduced then-NRA President (and former American Conservative Union chair) David Keene to#
Alexander Torshin, a senator in Vladimir Putin’s United Russia party. Torshin was also known to have ties to the Federal Security Service (FSB), the Russian intelligence agency formerly known as the KGB. Preston is an expert on Russian law whose has a white porcelain bust of Putin in his office.
In 2012, Preston invited Torshin to observe voting in Nashville, Tennessee during the presidential election. Both men claimed that they saw violations of U.S. law — while holding that Russian elections, in contrast, are free and fair.

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07-05-2017, 04:02 PM

Senior CNN Executive "The fake news campaign has been remarkably effective. 1/3 of America had been brainwashed, and nothing will change their minds

Senior CNN: "We get 30 calls a day from Senior White House officials screaming at us for publishing stories that are irrefutably accurate.

Senior CNN Executive: "We used to get hate mail. Now we get death threats. Hundreds a day."

Senior CNN Executive: "We have seen and have copies of transcripts of calls between Kushner, Bannon and high level Russian officials".
"At the least, those two committed treason, and it's hard to believe Trump wasn't part of it".

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07-05-2017, 04:09 PM

There is an indication that Washington Post is sitting on far more information including audio tapes......than is CNN.......

THAT is the reason Trump has been bashing both Washington Post and CNN....

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07-05-2017, 04:14 PM

It is not just Russian we are having problems with now it seems Americans are totally loose cannons wherever they are seen......

WHAT the heck....??

ABC News‏
Verified account
#@ABC 13h

Auschwitz Memorial condemns Rep. Clay Higgins for filming homeland security video inside gas chamber at death camp: "It's not a stage"

http://abcn.ws/2unZY9M

Just in time for Independence Day, U.S. Rep. Clay Higgins, R-Port Barre, has a video message for America. But instead of visiting constituent cookouts, shooting off fireworks and waving the United States flag, Higgins delivers a stark dispatch from the Nazis' Auschwitz concentration camp at Oswiecim, Poland.
"A great sense of dread comes over you in this place," Higgins says, leading the viewer on a five-minute, nine-second tour of the site, with a dirge-like solo violin playing in the background. "Man's inhumanity to man can be quite shocking."
The Auschwitz Memorial's official Twitter account said there should be "mournful silence" inside the gas chamber, where Higgins recorded part of his five-minute video.
"This is why homeland security must be squared away, why our military must be invincible," says Higgins, a former law enforcement officer#who serves on the House Homeland Security Committee. "The world's a smaller place now than it was in World War II. The United States is more accessible to terror like this, horror like this.
"It's hard to walk away from the gas chambers and ovens without a very sober feeling of commitment -- unwavering commitment -- to make damn sure that the United States of America is protected from the evils of the world."

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07-05-2017, 04:22 PM

MORE so called "normal" people buying into the proTrump alt rightist pushed hashtag CNNBlackmail...........

Gov. Mike Huckabee‏
Verified account
#@GovMikeHuckabee

CNN-the "Corleone News Network". Make fun of them with a humorous gif and they threaten you. On 4th of July no less!

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07-05-2017, 04:38 PM

Investigators explore if Russia colluded with pro-Trump sites during US election
Questions raised as to whether Trump supports coordinated with Moscow to spread bogus stories aimed at discrediting Hillary Clinton

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/05/donald-trump-russia-investigation-fake-news-hillary-clinton

The spread of Russian-made fake news stories aimed at discrediting Hillary Clinton on social media is emerging as an important line of inquiry in multiple investigations into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow.
Investigators are looking into whether Trump supporters and far-right websites coordinated with Moscow over the release of fake news, including stories implicating Clinton in murder or paedophilia, or paid to boost those stories on Facebook.
The head of the Trump digital camp, Brad Parscale, has reportedly been summoned to appear before the House intelligence committee looking into Moscow’s interference in the 2016 US election. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee carrying out a parallel inquiry, has said that at least 1,000 “paid internet trolls working out of a facility in Russia” were pumping anti-Clinton fake news into social media sites during the campaign.

In a 30-day period, dozens of full-blown sites appeared overnight, running full level productions posts. It screamed out to me that something strange was going on,” Mattes said. Much of the material was untraceable, but he tracked 40% of the new postings back to eastern Europe.

Four of the Facebook members posting virulent and false stories about Clinton (suggesting, for example, that she had profited personally by arming Islamic State extremists) had the same name, Oliver Mitov. They all had a very small number of Facebook friends, including one which all four had in common. When Mattes tried to friend them and contact them there was no reply.

"The spread of fake news aimed @ discrediting HRC is emerging as an impt line of inquiry in multiple SC Mueller FBI investigations"

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07-05-2017, 04:40 PM

44 states have refused to give certain voter information to President Trump's election integrity commission

http://cnn.it/2tn3DEt

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07-05-2017, 04:47 PM

NOTICE just how the Twitter hashtag CNNBlackmail got started and notice how it is being picked up and spread into MSM....

Again. HanAssholeSolo is not 15 or anywhere close to it. This is POTUS' son spreading misinformation.

EVEN Trump family members play the info warfare game....

"The spread of fake news aimed @ discrediting HRC is emerging as an impt line of inquiry in multiple SC Mueller FBI investigations"

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07-05-2017, 04:53 PM

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07-05-2017, 05:46 PM

Will in fact Trump lift Russian sanctions as a "show of good faith" .....thus in fact allowing Russian hacking of US elections and continued info warfare operations against the US......without any penalty.....without any cost to Russia...

US Russian Ambassador Kislyak encourages POTUS to break w/ "Washington" on Russia, remove punitive measures for bad Kremlin behavior.

http://tass.com/politics/954827

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07-05-2017, 06:23 PM

Here are the top contributors under the #CNNBlackmail hashtag. Mostly the same crew involved in other bot-pushed pro-Trump hashtags.

These accounts often interact with tweets pushed onto Twitter from Russian bots...carrying most of the time the same exact wording .....and or use the Russian tweets to create a "large retwitter storm" to drive a particular hashtag....

NOTE:
The twitter account ELEVEN_GOP is a Russian controlled English language bot that was up to a few days ago titled TEN_GOP and was deeply involved in supporting Le Pen twitter accounts in pushing leaked Marcon hacked emails into France from the US...just before the French election.

APPEARS Twitter suspended TEN_GOP with no warning..... looks like @Support discovered it was a Russian controlled account appearing to be a US account....

BTW..the chart below is a good indicator of the "human2 driving a lot of the proTrump alt right ie white nationalist messaging and proTrump hashtags and in this case...driving the hashtag CNNBlackmail.....

BTW....Posobiec and Cernovich drove the hashtag Syrianhoax which was basically retweeting Russian statements that the sarin gas attack as a fake and if real it came from the rebels...they practically used Russian tweets word for word.....

NOTE:
Someone must have the twitter account for SoS Tillerson under their control ...cannot believe he would be retweeting CNNBlackmail....

IMPORTANT to watch this particular hashtag being driven by proTrump alt rightists ie white nationalists......

The Reddit user behind Trump’s CNN meme apologized. But #CNNBlackmail is the story taking hold.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/07/05/the-reddit-user-behind-trumps-cnn-meme-apologized-but-cnnblackmail-is-the-story-taking-hold/?utm_term=.a866be4679f9&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

Mike Cernovich #
Verified account
@Cernovich

CNN's @KFILE is extorting a private citizen, someone not famous, with threats of doxing.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html#…

Mike Cernovich #
Verified account
#@Cernovich

The Memes Wars have begun. #CNNBlackMail

Mark Dice
✔
@MarkDice
The history books will show that on #july4th2017 CNN blackmailed someone who made a joke gif about them. #CNNBlackmail
5:47 AM - 5 Jul 2017

NOTICE now the proTrump alt rightist ie white nationalist social media infrastructure kicks in.....

Overnight, the r/The_Donald board that once hosted the user’s apology and plea for peace was filled up with even more anti-CNN memes, and posts calling for a full-on war against the network. The Trump-supporting Redditors picked up an idea from 4chan’s /pol/ board, organizing mass calls and tweet-storms to a long list of companies, demanding they stop advertising on CNN. The story soon spread to Trump-friendly publications like Gateway Pundit and Infowars.

The reference to the Redditor’s age comes from#a tantalizing but extremely unconfirmed detail that began to attach itself to the meme as it spread. Was the user#a 15-year-old kid, as many posts on the #CNNBlackmail hashtag repeat as fact? Even though CNN, and screenshots of the user’s own Reddit history seem to contradict this, indicating that the user is significantly older, the notion that CNN had just threatened to doxx a minor was extremely shareable among Trump supporters, including one of the president’s own sons:

Donald Trump Jr.
✔
@DonaldJTrumpJr
So I guess they weren't effective threatening the admin so they go after & bully a 15 y/o? Seems in line w their "standards" #CNNBlackmail
https://twitter.com/politicalshort/status/882471276371099650#
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2:11 PM - 5 Jul 2017

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07-05-2017, 06:27 PM

CNN Politics‏
Verified account
#@CNNPolitics

The White House is staying silent about the possible anti-Semitic connection of President Trump’s anti-CNN video

http://cnn.it/2sGE92M

NOTE...the original poster of the Reddit meme was known for extensive anti- Semitic postings on the sub Reddit account....ALL now deleted immediately after his apology was posted on Reddit...WHICH is now unwilling to repost....

So glad Trump shut down the State Dept section that monitored anti-Semitism this week

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07-05-2017, 06:36 PM

Daily Stormer Troll Army Threatens CNN Staffers Over Reddit User Behind Trump/CNN GIF

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/07/05/daily-stormer-troll-army-threatens-cnn-staffers-over-reddit-user-behind-trumpcnn-gif#.WV0nGpVOkzQ.twitter

“Just like CNN tracked down this child and used media exposure as a bludgeon against him for posting (truthful and funny) things that they don’t like, we are going to begin tracking down their families as a bludgeon against them for publishing (seditiously fraudulent) things that we don’t like,” wrote Auernheimer. “CNN, this is your one singular chance to walk back this behavior of public blackmail. You have one week to fix this.”
Auernheimer’s list of demands includes the public firing of the KFile team, a denouncement of their alleged threats, a $50,000 college scholarship for HanAssholeSolo, and a public assurance that “he and his family will never be harmed by your organization.”
The only problem:#HanAssholeSolo is an adult,#according to CNN.

The only problem:#HanAssholeSolo is an adult, according to CNN

The 4chan message board /pol/, which is#dedicated to#politically incorrect discussion,#dubbed the campaign “Operation:Autism Storm” and posted a four part plan of attack that includes banding together with other far right sites, going after CNN’s advertisers, discrediting everyone at CNN, and forming a legal strategy for HanAssholeSolo should he later be doxed.

At least nine separate hashtags trended across far-right accounts Tuesday evening – including #cnnblackmail, #cnndoxing, and #fraudnewscnn – as the controversy erupted.

Within hours, personal information for multiple CNN staffers and their family members -- alongside images and gifs of individuals with CNN superimposed over their faces being shot in the head -- appeared in the comments of the posting.

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07-05-2017, 06:53 PM

REMEMBER there have been far more Americans recently killed in the US by the US ultra right than by jihadists.....

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07-05-2017, 07:00 PM

Trump fans so primed to attack trad'l media, they thought @NPR's Declaration of Independence tweets were propaganda
http://wapo.st/2uK5xi2?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.57fad2f0e9d4#

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07-05-2017, 07:10 PM

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07-06-2017, 06:43 AM

It is not just Russian we are having problems with now it seems Americans are totally loose cannons wherever they are seen......

WHAT the heck....??

ABC News‏
Verified account
#@ABC 13h

Auschwitz Memorial condemns Rep. Clay Higgins for filming homeland security video inside gas chamber at death camp: "It's not a stage"

http://abcn.ws/2unZY9M

NOW this same Congressman is apologizing for his video efforts....SO what the heck was he thinking in attempting to tie the Holocaust under Nazi's to the Muslim immigrant issue???

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/congressman-apologizes-for-making-video-at-auschwitz/ar-BBDNVvB?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Forgot...he was just parroting Trump and the entire alt right ie white nationalist movement....which is very strong in LA BTW....

SEEMS others fully understood what this LA Congressman fully meant with his video.....EVEN if he ignores it himself in his apology.....

WHY does it take Europeans to educate US Congressmen.....in of all things history????

"As a site for reflection, one that often evokes deep personal pain for survivors and their families, Auschwitz should never be politicized or used as a platform for giving personal views," ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt said in a statement to NBC News.

"The museum at Auschwitz-Birkenau lies on sacred ground. It is a burial site and a memorial to the estimated 1.1 million prisoners who were exterminated or tortured inside the camp's walls. It is a permanent testament to the brutality of the Nazi regime, and a reminder of why the world should never turn away when forces of hatred and prejudice lead to genocide," Greenblatt added.

HINT...look at what you the US are currently doing...sometimes looking at your reflection in a mirror is extremely helpful....

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07-06-2017, 06:53 AM

NOW Trump will actually experience first hand just how Russian non linear warfare is used within say Poland which is a reflection of how this tactic is used in Russia as well....latest polling indicates that JUST 6% of Poles have any interest in the Trump visit thus no one was actually going to come at all.....thus the bussing for PR effects...

"Trump Will Have Buses of Supporters To His Speech in Poland, Utilizing Communist Party Tactics."

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-poland-crowds-bus-communist-632124#
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07-06-2017, 06:55 AM

Actually a very valid assumption by NYTs.....

"Two people close to Mr. Trump said they expected [Trump and Putin] to bond over their disdain for 'fake news.'"
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/us/politics/trump-poland-germany-g20-putin.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0#

In general no authoritarian likes free press and free speech....

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07-06-2017, 07:00 AM

Fiona Hill is not "Kremlin Critic." She is the president's senior advisor on Russia. She must attend Putin mtg.
http://thebea.st/2sHPk02?source=twitter&via=desktop#

Watch to see if Trump allows her to be there...which BTW there should never be a discussion on...IF he allows her then one MIGHT have the view he is not connected to Russians....IF though she does not attend those meetings because Trump does not want her there as he did with the Russian FM meeting...THEN you have your evidence of Russian collusion.....

The White House’s best-known Russia hawk is already in Germany, in advance of Donald Trump’s high-stakes meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin and the G-20 summit. But whether Fiona Hill will be allowed in the room when the two presidents get together is still very much an open question.
According to two White House aides, senior Trump administration officials have pressed for Hill—the National Security Council’s senior director for Europe and Russia and the author of critical psychological biography of Putin—to be in the room during the president’s highly anticipated meeting with Putin.
If Hill is there, these officials believe, it will help the White House avoid the perception that the president is too eager to cozy up to the Kremlin. The hope is to avoid a repeat of Trump’s last meeting with top Russian officials, during which he disclosed classified intelligence to two of the country’s top diplomats—and was pictured by Russian state media looking particularly friendly with them.

NOTE...SAD when an adult must be in the room with a US President these days...

BTW...she is not considered to be a "Russian hawk".....

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07-06-2017, 07:08 AM

Interesting if actually true....so the core question....is the Trump WH really interested in defending US democracy built on the 1st Amendment...free speech and a free press????.....NOT really......

Is then the Trump WH to be seen as a developing authoritarian regime ie "smiling fascism"????

Maybe is the current answer....

More evidence of a pattern of abuse of power linked to Trump loyalty demands. WH is eyeing a_merger_as leverage in its war on @CNN!

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07-06-2017, 07:11 AM

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07-06-2017, 07:20 AM

AND the US alt right and ultra right is still shooting yesterday at CNN......what is it about free speech and free press that the right and ultra right seems to ignore but then get's seriously uptight when they are attacked????

Differences between Infowars and Breitbart.com .....none really.

REMEMBER Trump's special advisor Bannon has obtained an Ethnics Exemption to continuing working as a Director of Breitbart.com.....

Limbaugh: ‘It Is the End of CNN’

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/07/05/limbaugh-end-cnn/

Partial transcript as follows (courtesy of RushLimbaugh.com):
Hey, let me ask you a question, folks. How many people over the course of your life, over the course of the recent past, months, years, how many people do you know that constantly complain about the media? Everybody, right? Everybody’s always complaining about the media. So over this past weekend I had somebody say, “Do you believe what Trump is doing to CNN?”
I said, “What do you mean what Trump is doing to CNN? It’s not what Trump is doing to CNN. It’s what CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post are doing to Trump!”
So many people have complained to me about the media for all of my life, the entire portion of my life that I’ve been doing this program. “Something’s got to be done. We’ve got to do something. Why doesn’t somebody do something about the media?” And here comes Donald Trump doing something about the media and people are getting nervous. Not everybody. Some people are obviously very supportive and happy about this.

NOTICE...absolutely no mention for FAKE news and or propaganda being distributed from alt right ie white nationalist social media accounts and or blog sites AND OR anti Semitic comments also being posted on those sites.....

SO if I correctly understand this..he is demanding the elimination of the 1st Amendment??

BTW...CNN just had it's most watched second quarter in their history...so someone must be intently watching it.....MAYBE that is the problem...too many are listening and forming their opinions due to their reporting which on Trump has been exceptionally accurate of late....

OR maybe the fear from the right is that CNN does in fact sit on a massive explosive article complete with Trump and family audio recordings....

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07-06-2017, 07:33 AM

Russian Information Warfare is all about creating a "narrative perception"....if this occurs just what then is the "perception of the US in the ME".....especially in Sunni areas.....ie REMEMBER Aleppo and the Russian use of incendiary munitions against civilians, their bombing of hospitals, market places and mosques etc....

Their "perception will be" US is no different than Russia which has killed via bombing thousands of Sunni's...

U.S. would consider no-fly zone in Syria if Russia agrees
http://reut.rs/2tLlhod

Trump is desperately trying get together with Putin.....why is that especially when DoD under Obama basically waved off on this for the same reasons stated above..."perception"....

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07-06-2017, 07:41 AM

Why almost every state is partially or fully rebuffing Trump’s election commission
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/07/05/most-states-are-now-partially-or-fully-refusing-to-hand-over-data-to-trumps-voter-fraud-commission/#

45 states rejected giving Kris Kobach all of the voter data he asked for. Here are the facts
https://www.thenation.com/article/the-trump-administrations-voter-suppression-plans-are-backfiring-badly/#

Actually interesting in that this is a main Trump info warfare statement.....he was "robbed of 6M" votes via illegal voting by immigrants who voted at least twice.

Why is it that we see virtually no difference in Russian info warfare and Trump info warfare??

BUT REMEMBER Trump still has not published that US cyber defense plan he promised within 90 days....but "so called voter fraud"...off and running with a full commission....

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07-06-2017, 07:56 AM

NOW this same Congressman is apologizing for his video efforts....SO what the heck was he thinking in attempting to tie the Holocaust under Nazi's to the Muslim immigrant issue???

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/congressman-apologizes-for-making-video-at-auschwitz/ar-BBDNVvB?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Forgot...he was just parroting Trump and the entire alt right ie white nationalist movement....which is very strong in LA BTW....

SEEMS others fully understood what this LA Congressman fully meant with his video.....EVEN if he ignores it himself in his apology.....

WHY does it take Europeans to educate US Congressmen.....in of all things history????

HINT...look at what you the US are currently doing...sometimes looking at your reflection in a mirror is extremely helpful....

This may not be Trump 's "fault", but Trump has created a climate ripe for such ethical & moral transgressions.
http://tinyurl.com/yd95m7of

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07-06-2017, 08:45 AM

US President Donald Trump is to argue that the future of Western civilisation is at stake in a keynote speech in the Polish capital Warsaw.

Holding up Poland as an example of a country ready to defend civilisation, he will warn against the threats of "terrorism and extremism".
Poland's conservative government shares Mr Trump's hostile view of immigration and strong sense of sovereignty.
Mr Trump is in Poland ahead of a G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany.

"Because as the Polish experience reminds us - the defence of the West ultimately rests not only on means but also on the will of its people to prevail," Mr Trump will say, according to excerpts released from the speech.

"The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive."

The "fundmental question" that Trump has yet to answer...in his drive to appease and accommodate Putin......"does he fully and completely understand the inherent Russian infowar and cyber war threat directed at and which still continues against the US"??

THAT he Trump has yet to accept nor release his US cyber defense plan he promised within 90 days.....

That is the "fundamental question"....AND Trump will continue to not answer that "question"....

ACTIONS speak louder than words and right now Trump is all words.....in his response to the inherent Russian threat against the US which he must defend as part of his oath he must fulfil as President...

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07-06-2017, 08:48 AM

BUT WAIT...in this important Polish Us press conference Trump true to form does this.....

Trump starts attacking NBC & CNN in news conference in Warsaw

BUT NOTICE this.....

US Pres Donald Trump says in press conference in Warsaw:
"We are working with Poland against Russia's actions and destabilising behaviour"

Trump says absolutely nothing about Russian behaviour in the US elections as a destabilising behaviour does he?????

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07-06-2017, 05:10 PM

AND Trump still does not really admit to the same conclusions as do 17 USG ICs...that Russia both hacked and meddled in the 2016 US elections...

Before Putin talks, Trump plays down interference in U.S. election

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN19R2G7?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

One day before his first meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday that no one knows for sure whether Moscow intervened in the 2016 U.S. election but that he suspected Russian involvement.

Speaking to reporters in Poland, Trump played down the assessment of his own intelligence agencies that Russia meddled in the election by hacking Democrats' emails and distributing online propaganda.

“I think it was Russia, but I think it was probably other people and/or countries, and I see nothing wrong with that statement. Nobody really knows. Nobody really knows for sure,” Trump told a news conference.

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07-06-2017, 05:19 PM

As I have posted here a number of times....Russian use of "money" as a soft power feature in their non linear war against the US and West in general is something that has picked up the pace since 2008 and continues until this very day.....

Felix Sater agrees to co-operate in money-laundering probe
Russia-born dealmaker linked to Trump

Sater was a Russian OC member in New York before going to work for Trump in the Soho Trump Tower....then shifted to working for the FBI as an informant during this period.

https://www.ft.com/content/159eb2d8-6162-11e7-8814-0ac7eb84e5f1

Donald Trump faces renewed scrutiny of the riches that flowed into his real estate empire from the former Soviet Union after a fixer for a Kazakh family accused of pumping dirty money into US property agreed to assist an international investigation into his former business partners.Felix Sater, a Russian-born dealmaker with organised-crime connections who worked on property ventures including Trump Soho in Manhattan, has attracted attention in recent months as efforts continue to chart the links between the US president’s circle and moneymen from Russia and its neighbours.In October the Financial Times revealed Mr Sater had helped the family of Viktor Khrapunov, a former Kazakh minister now exiled in Switzerland, invest millions in US real estate through front companies. The Khrapunovs have spent heavily across the US, including, records indicate, buying apartments in Trump Soho.

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07-06-2017, 06:10 PM

I have been warned for being on a so called "soap box" and an entire series of tweets from proTrump alt right ie white nationalist tying into the Russian use of propaganda bot and trolls....especially around the CNN events have been removed as well as a posting on the anti Semitic ties to that CNN meme that the original poster had along with tens of anti Semitic postings...

WHAT was removed was probably one of the best documented tie ins between proTrump alt right social media trolls and bots and Russian connections even into the French election and the hacking of Marcon....

If one fully and completely understands that Russian non linear warfare uses both the right and ultra right and left and ultra left then the use of anti Semitic memes and postings is not unusual....it is actually common....for Russia propaganda and disinformation ie Soros....

So then this is not unusual to see referring then to Trump.....

Polish TV reported that Trump consulted far-right anti-semitic Polish-American historian to prepare Warsaw speech
http://hopenothate.org.uk/2017/07/05/trumps-visit-poland-ignites-controversy-far-right-links/#

In my work world I am 300% use to having to fend off Russian hacking attacks and working with customers that are having to do the same..what I am not use to is an interesting form of censorship......

REMEMBER right now US politics is in fact driving US FP and vice versa.....and that is not a soap box comment.....

If any SWJ commenter does not agree then post and state why.....but surprisingly no comments are ever posted...even though the read numbers are high.....

BLUF...am amazed that even SWJ accepts Russia meddling in all forms and in any media...

To defeat Russian info warfare you must be able to fully dissect that and then actively push back....all the time not just some of the time...

From the article....

Trump is going to speak at a public rally near the 1944 Warsaw Uprising monument. Right-wing groups are organising buses to transport people from all over Poland in order to provide a big crowd for the event. Apparently it is the first US President in many years whose visit to Poland does not include a tribute to the 1943 Warsaw Ghetto Uprising memorial that is a short walking distance from the other monument at a time when antisemitism has been reportedly on the rise in both USA and Poland

Chodakiewicz himself appeared in the report and commented on the speech’s contents. It has also been reported Chodakiewicz is to be a member of the presidential delegation flying to Warsaw.
The report raised eyebrows because of Chodakiewicz’s long record of far right links. He is mostly known as a denier of Polish responsibility for acts of antisemitism, including the infamous Jedwabne pogrom of 1941.
He has repeatedly claimed Jews themselves were chiefly responsible for the hostility of their Polish neighbours. Accusations of Jewish involvement with Communism have been present in many of Chodakiewicz’s writings.
A frequent contributor to Polish right-wing media, he has recently referred to Bernie Sanders as “a Jewish bolshevik”.

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07-06-2017, 06:15 PM

Hacker Who Aided #Russian Intelligence Sentenced to 2 Years
https://nyti.ms/2tQhjKz

Like other cybercriminals-turned-government hackers, Shaltai Boltai’s members are believed to have collaborated with Russian intelligence personnel, namely, those from the Federal Security Service.

That led to the arrest of Sergei Mikhailov, the deputy director of the service’s cybersecurity organ, and one of several individuals arrested around the same time as the members of Shaltai Boltai and charged with treason, though the authorities never publicly linked the two cases.

Mr. Mikhailov’s possible ties to Shaltai Boltai emerged in Russian news reports. Other Russian news outlets reported a competing theory for the intelligence officer’s arrest: that he had passed to the F.B.I. secrets about Russia’s government-backed hacking programs, helping in the investigation of Russian meddling in the presidential election.

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07-06-2017, 06:25 PM

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07-06-2017, 07:15 PM

12/31/16: Trump promises info on the real election hackers in a week.

7/6/17: Today in Poland in a press conference claims he has no idea whodunnit.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-promised-to-find-the-other-election-hackers-he-still-hasnt#

AND that promised 90 day US cyber defense plan...no where to be seen is it??

AND the 17 USG ICs stated exactly what about Russian interference....AND Trump simply does not believe them...why is that??

The famous Trump whodunnit...so US intelligence was wrong in 2002 and 2003 SO it is wrong in 2016.....typical Russian "whataboutism".......

Following the mantra......

"Anyone could've hacked the US election and Obama is to blame for not stopping the Russians from doing it"

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07-06-2017, 07:23 PM

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07-06-2017, 07:34 PM

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07-06-2017, 07:39 PM

Does anyone here at SWJ see a repeat of the Trump Russian FM meeting.....

Tillerson is working hard to get the sanctions lifted for a Exxon 500B USD oil deal and there is not a single NSC and or Hill a Russian expert in the room....

And this is really going to work out well for the US.....

The only extra people reportedly inside the Trump-Putin meeting will be Tillerson, Lavrov, and translators.
https://www.axios.com/coming-attractions-trump-putin-meeting-2454467032.html#

So outside of Trump himself and Tillerson who has been failing as SoS who will actually know what Trump says and or agrees to???

Normally the NSA and or a Russian expert has always been in such meetings in the past and now????

From a former US Ambassador to Russia.....under Obama

Michael McFaul
✔
@McFaul
Putin likes small meetings. If true, WH obviously letting Kremlin dictate the terms of the meeting. Not good. At minimum, HR must be there.

WHAT does Putin truly have over Trump???

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07-06-2017, 07:45 PM

Reference Americans actively working to push Russian propaganda into the US, France and Germany.....under the guise of proTrump social media accounts....

Trump supporter admits vandalizing an elementary school with anti-Trump graffiti hoping to frame liberals
http://hill.cm/9kF3GHd

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07-06-2017, 08:06 PM

Does anyone here at SWJ see a repeat of the Trump Russian FM meeting.....

Total government experience in the room?

Russia: 80+ years

US: Less than 12 months

1 KGB veteran case officer with field experience in recruitment, 1 veteran diplomat, 1 Order of Friendship recipient given by the KGB guy and just another guy.

Embassy CIA station chief all out of Kaopectate.

AND at the same time this is ongoing.......

Rex Tillerson is in the NY attorney general's crosshairs as the Exxon investigation heats up
http://read.bi/2tmoVny

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07-07-2017, 06:42 AM

Reference Americans actively working to push Russian propaganda into the US, France and Germany.....under the guise of proTrump social media accounts....

Investigators looking into possible Russia collusion with pro-Trump websites: report
http://hill.cm/C3TRlG7

Reference Brad Parscale...have previously posted a number of comments referencing his digital activities......using big data from SCL and Cambridge Analytica....

Let us see exactly what is currently known about Russian influence and hacking operations within the US currently and during the 2016 election and the European elections of Netherlands, France and now coming in Germany....

In order to look intensively at the thread one would in theory thoroughly need to understand the Russian non linear warfare doctrine released by the Russians shortly after their military annexation of Crimea...with the two key cornerstones...

1. cyber warfare
2. information warfare and a new one
3. softpower through the use on money...lots of money

But postings on this have been deleted....so I am assuming all fully understand non linear warfare....

1. there is an ongoing active social media war afoot in the US driven by an alliance between the ultra right in Russia and Russian trolls and bots supporting a similar ultra right and right wing US social media botnets and blogsites..it has now reached the level of actual death threats against accounts known to be releasing accurate reporting on the Trump collusion and against anyone supporting them as well as mobbing and stalking...

2. they share the same conspiracy theories and fake news and they push all Wikileaks hacked emails of western leaders and or Clinton

3. the FBI is now expanding their Russian connections to Trump into this area was well especially between alt right ie white nationalist blogsites such as Infowars and Breitbart.com

4. Fox News has taken on the leading voice for this movement much in the same way Russia Today does for the Russian government....

5. an approved Congressional 200M USDs to be used in fighting back against this info war has been largely not used by the Trump WH nor has it queried Congress on how to use that money

6. we have seen a tight group of 30 proTrump alt right social media accounts push a massive disinformation attack against CNN built around FAKE information in order to discredit CNN and silence a MSM outlet

7. we have seen the complete personal voting records and other personal data on 200M US voters complied by a GOP contractor SCL placed onto an unsecured Amazon cloud server which after 21 days was "stolen"..by whom is not known....AND yet the Trump WH says not a single word about this massive data theft of US voter information

8. the Trump created "Fraud voting commission2 has basically requested the same exact information and that information will not be secured by US government facilities and internet security ..rather it will be stored somewhere in the WH and is to be used by WH...

9. we have seen Russian APT 28 a state sponsored hacking group hack the email accounts of the now French President and then released them in the same fashion as with the Clinton and Podesta emails

10. we have seen and confirmed an ongoing Russian disinformation and influence operation ongoing in Germany due to the coming election

11. we have seen a deliberate cyber war unleashed as a practice session on the entire Ukraine economy and it bled over to other major businesses resulting in economic losses exceeding 1B USDs

12. we now see in a Trump interview he still does not accept the proven fact that Russia both hacked and meddled and meddled is a mild word in the 2016 election

13. we know that a total of 21 State voting databases were in fact hacked and in six cases voter data was exfiled out of those data bases

14. we now that two "big data" companies SCL and Cambridge Analytica used an "voting social engineering concept" to drive a digital media messaging directly into the US against potential Trump voters and in an attempt to suppress Democratic voting.....ARE now under FBI investigation for exactly this "social engineering"....

15. we know that these tow companies where initially owned by Bannon current special advisor to Trump who sold them shortly before the election and who still sits on their boards...

16. we know that now the FBI Russian Trump investigation has expanded from initially 15 field agents to now a rumoured 170

17. we know the number of top flight success proven Federal prosecutors has now climbed to 16 working with SC Mueller in the areas of organized crime, money laundering, Russian collusion and obstruction/cover up

18. so 170 plus 15 does not seem to indicate as Trump constantly states.....everything is a "FAKE"......

19. we now see a very active attempt to shut down the 1st Amendment of free speech and free press with open and massive attacks on virtually the entire MSM AND an attempt to shut down all live cameras in the daily WH press conferences

19. we see an active and open Trump and Trump supporter attacks on US Federal judiciary decision and judges

20. Trump has to yet released his much promised US cyber defense plan and probably never will as he rejects the idea that Russia hacked the US

So to argue that we can simply move on and ignore it is like walking into a dark tunnel with no light facing an oncoming freight train with no lights and saying to ourselves everything is going to be fine....

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07-07-2017, 06:53 AM

NOW this is what is interesting and ties right back into this thread....

If one has been tracking the increase in Trump twitter "Followers" you might have noticed that it has climbed 1.4M in less than 3.5 weeks...

Research conducted on samples of those 1.4M "Followers" is indicating they are all automated and foreign controlled "bots".......not human "Followers".Secondly, we have shut down yesterday a 120,000 automated botnet controlled by Russian control servers which were tied into pushing automated hashtags being also used by the proTrump alt right ie white nationalists twitter accounts which I had posted here but were deleted as well.....WE have solid evidence connecting this shut down Russian botnet tied to specific US proTrump alt right ie white nationalist twitter accounts.

German security contacts are indicating that there is an extremely close tie in between Russian controlled bot nets and US ultra right and alt right social media accounts...and they are taking this into account in the coming German election as they have seen a marked increase in tweets from this group aiming into German twitter conversations from right and ultra right German groups similar to what occurred in the French election when US peoTrump accounts supported Le Pen and her Front National.

BTW we were also able to identify a very sophisticated automated use of these bots and their automated responses to Ukrainian social media accounts...meaning they were keying automatic responses to key twitter words being used by Ukrainian accounts...response language used was Russian...meaning if the twitter account was using English key words the automated bots would respond in Russian....the Russian controlled bot net was making this their first trial run of this feature...

This was the first recorded use of automatic twitter responses against other twitter accounts controlled from Russia.....WITH this automated feature one can literally spam any twitter account of your choice into submission forcing them to withdraw from twitter due to this heavy and continued interesting form of twitter spamming....

We are watching to see if they take the next step...automated responding to English language tweets in English...

So again there is no tie in between internal US activities around US proTrump social media accounts and Russian propaganda and disinformation AND the same US proTrump alt right accounts being seen "meddling" in EU elections..... ??

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07-07-2017, 07:11 AM

I am getting tired of reposting this critical article done by one of the best Russian researchers....

Crimintern: How the Kremlin uses Russia’s criminal networks in Europe

By Mark Galeotti
18th April, 2017
http://www.ecfr.eu/publications/summary/crimintern_how_the_kremlin_uses_russias_criminal_n etworks_in_europe

In five recent US MSM articles there is finally the growing realization that Russia actively uses Russian overseas criminal gangs as hacking cut outs giving the Russian government a high degree of denialability when accused of being actively involved in hacking operations such as the election of 2016.

Currently under FBI arrest warrants in Prague and Barcelona are two of the top most Russian hackers that while charged under hacking and money laundering are being actively viewed as having been behind the DNC and Podesta hacks....both in paying for them and for running them....

The Russian hacker detained currently in Barcelona is being charged for running a major spam botnet behind the US influence operations.....

The Russian arrested under FBI warrant in Barcelona hacker was behind the Kelihos botnet alleged to have actually been the transfer system for the hacked DNC and Podesta email accounts...

FBI immediately took the entire botnet off line....

How the FBI Took Down Russia's Spam King—And His Massive Botnet

One of the world’s most notorious spammers appears to have been tripped up by a basic cybersecurity no-no, according to the FBI: He used the same log-in credentials to both run his criminal enterprise and also log into sites like iTunes.
The Justice Department announced Monday that it had successfully targeted a man prosecutors called “one of the world’s most notorious criminal spammers,” a Russian hacker known as Peter Yuryevich Levashov, also known as Peter Severa, or “Peter of the North.” Levashov had long run the Kelihos botnet, a global network of infected computers that collectively flooded email inboxes worldwide with spam, stole banking credentials from infected users, and spread malware across the internet.
Spanish authorities arrested Levashov, who normally resides in St. Petersburg, Russia, while he was on vacation with his family. Rumors had swirled over the weekend, sourced only to a vague report on the Russian propaganda network RT, that he’d been involved in that country’s meddling with the 2016 US presidential election, but there was no hint of that in Monday’s Justice Department complaint, which focused instead on Levashov’s role in developing and running one of the internet’s most pernicious and longest-running botnets. Levashov's operation had infected as many as 100,000 computers worldwide, roughly five to ten percent of which were inside the United States.

So to argue that Russia criminal gangs are not tied into Russian propaganda, disinformation and especially state sponsored Russia hacking is in fact rather strange...

It is again like standing in that dark tunnel waiting the train to hit you arguing all the while everything is going to be fine...it is not .....

For those that truly do not believe it....there is a true Russian cyber war....we have long ago left the realm of cyber attacks...ongoing in Europe and US and it came out of hiding shortly in the recent Ukraine cyber invasion as a warning to the West from Russia with love......

REMEMBER Putin's own words during his recent national press conference...quote "the US election attack could have been carried out by Russians who were dissatisfied by the way the West is treating Russia" end of quote.....

State sponsored angry Russians and or non state sponsored angry Russians...an interesting question....

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07-07-2017, 08:01 AM

Actually an unusual article for Wired.....

Why Trump says things like "the failing New York Times" and "believe me" over and over and over and over again
http://wrd.cm/2tr5F6K

In the old style days of foreign language training there is a theory that if you repeat a word seven times it is firmly locked into your brain and thus makes it easier to speak a foreign language....

In the concept of psychological warfare this is exactly what Trump and the proTrump alt right ie white nationalist social media is doing hourly 24 X 7 X 365.

THIS is also the concept behind Russian trolling and the use of bots carrying say a "fake news" narrative....by watching a single Russian troll tweet one will see how it is propagated....by the Twitter method known as "retweeting" ...to the point that at some point even MSM picks it up and then when they publish it ..it really does look like the "truth".....

The list of 20 top proTrump accounts that I previously posted and was deleted has been shown to when using a single tweet and their "retweeters" they are capable of driving a hashtag to the top twitter trending within one hour of it's release...

They fully understand how to play the Twitter algorithms....

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07-07-2017, 08:56 AM

I had posted yesterday an article indicating that before Trump gave his speech in Poland he had contacted a well known ultra right Polish American historian for his input...who also had deep contacts to other eastern European ultra rightists and who had a history of anti Semitic statements as well.

This article was deleted as being on a soap box...

But from a well known MSM outlet this was published....

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/532866/

The Racial and Religious Paranoia of Trump's Warsaw Speech

When the president says being Western is the essence of America’s identity, he’s in part defining America in opposition to some of its own people.

In his speech in Poland on Thursday, Donald Trump referred 10 times to “the West” and five times to “our civilization.” His white nationalist supporters will understand exactly what he means. It’s important that other Americans do, too.
The West is not a geographic term. Poland is further east than Morocco. France is further east than Haiti. Australia is further east than Egypt. Yet Poland, France, and Australia are all considered part of “The West.” Morocco, Haiti, and Egypt are not.
The West is not an ideological or economic term either. India is the world’s largest democracy. Japan is among its most economically advanced nations. No one considers them part of the West.
The West is a racial and religious term. To be considered Western, a country must be largely Christian (preferably Protestant or Catholic) and largely white. Where there is ambiguity about a country’s “Westernness,” it’s because there is ambiguity about, or tension between, these two characteristics. Is Latin America Western? Maybe. Most of its people are Christian, but by U.S. standards, they’re not clearly white. Are Albania and Bosnia Western? Maybe. By American standards, their people are white. But they are also mostly Muslim. #
Steve Bannon, who along with Stephen Miller has shaped much of Trump’s civilizational thinking, has been explicit about this. In a 2014 speech, he celebrated “the long history of the Judeo-Christian West struggle against Islam” and “our forefathers” who “bequeathed to use the great institution that is the church of the West.”

BLUF.....
The proTrump alt right ie white nationalists on social media immediately ran with their comments praising Trump's speech as they fully understood what he was saying....it is what is between the lines that is important or what some call "meta-messaging".....

So is there any difference between Russian disinformation, propaganda and fake news beig pushed by trolls and bots and the proTrump alt right social media trolls and bots.....

None......there is no difference in tactics and uses of disinformation, fake news and propaganda....

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07-07-2017, 12:38 PM

What the heck does this Trump tweet mean today..........????

Donald J. Trump‏
Verified account
#@realDonaldTrump 5h

Everyone here is talking about why John Podesta refused to give the DNC server to the FBI and the CIA. Disgraceful!

TOTALLY a massive Trump lie.....no sure just who he is talking to outside maybe himself....

THERE has never been a single German, French, Dutch, Japanese, Italian, UK newspaper articles concerning what Trump is stating here..."Everyone here is talking about Podesta DNC server".......

Am betting is one asked any person on the streets of the above countries their response would simply be ..."Podesta who and what server"......

Trump is now firmly in an "altered state of reality".......

BLUF...in his latest tweet it appears that Trump is realizing he will walk away from G20 with no trade deal and or anything in the way of supporting Trump's view on climate change .......

Especially with the announcement that EU and Japan have created a free trade zone larger than NAFTA and has effectively cut US agricultural exports out of Japan....

Donald J. Trump‏
Verified account
#@realDonaldTrump

I will represent our country well and fight for its interests! Fake News Media will never cover me accurately but who cares! We will #MAGA!

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07-07-2017, 02:06 PM

Had not a lot of posts concerning this individual been deleted one could then fully understand the role of the proTrump alt right ie white nationalist movement in their support to both Trump and their intertwining with Russian information warfare trolls and bots...

The Alt-Right Branding War Has Torn the Movement in Two

By Andrew Marantz
6 JUL 2017

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-alt-right-branding-war-has-torn-the-movement-in-two

Well worth reading as it is important to understand just how these two proTrump social media support systems are being pushed and played by Russian info warfare using Russian trolls and bots...on a daily basis...

The phrase “alternative right” has been critiqued on several grounds: that it’s too vague; that it obscures the extent to which the movement is coterminous with the rest of the Republican base; that it’s a euphemism for white supremacy. The definition has shifted over time, both inside and outside the movement, such that, for a while, it was impossible to tell whether any two people who referred to the alt-right were referring to the same thing. During the Presidential campaign, the term came to denote several intersecting phenomena: anti-feminism, opposition to political correctness, online abuse, belligerent nihilism, conspiracy theories, inflammatory Internet memes. Some pro-Trump activists adopted this big-tent definition, allowing any youthful, “edgy” critique of establishment conservatism to be considered alt-right. But a core within the movement always insisted on a narrower conception of the alt-right, one that was inextricably linked with white separatism, and with Spencer specifically.
Now the boundaries are set. Spencer and his allies have won the branding war. They own the alt-right label; their right-wing opponents are aligning themselves against it, working to establish a parallel brand. It has become increasingly clear that this is not a mere rhetorical ploy but a distinction with a difference.

During the Presidential campaign, the term alt right came to denote several intersecting phenomena: anti-feminism, opposition to political correctness, online abuse, belligerent nihilism, conspiracy theories, inflammatory Internet memes. Some pro-Trump activists adopted this big-tent definition, allowing any youthful, “edgy” critique of establishment conservatism to be considered alt-right. But a core within the movement always insisted on a narrower conception of the alt-right, one that was inextricably linked with white separatism, and with Spencer specifically.
Now the boundaries are set. Spencer and his allies have won the branding war. They own the alt-right label; their right-wing opponents are aligning themselves against it, working to establish a parallel brand. It has become increasingly clear that this is not a mere rhetorical ploy but a distinction with a difference.

It is now a battle between the white nationalists behind Mike Cernovich and white supremacist Spencer who is married to a Russian with former ties to Russian Today in Russia

Cernovich was behind the twitter campaigns using the hashtags CNNBlcakmail, Syrianhoax and Marconleaks...which got picked up by the US Nazi Party and Russian trolls and bots...

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07-07-2017, 02:11 PM

REMEMBER the goal of Russian propaganda, disinformation, fake news is based in their use of the 6Ds Principles....

Distort....Distract....Dismiss....Deflect.....ALL designed to create Doubt and Distrust....

Question now is are they succeeding??

Trump’s leaks crackdown sends chills through national security world

Agency officials say measures have been taken to isolate leakers, creating a culture of fear.

By Ali Watkins and Josh Dawsey
07/07/2017 05:11 AM EDT
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/07/trumps-leak-vendetta-sends-chills-240274

National security officials across the federal government say they are seeing new restrictions on who can access sensitive information, fueling fears in the intelligence and security community that the Trump administration has stepped up a stealthy operation to smoke out leakers.
Officials at various national security agencies also say they are becoming more concerned that the administration is carefully tracking what they’re doing and who they’re talking to — then plotting to use them as a scapegoat or accuse them of leaks.

One U.S. official voiced concern over even talking to their superiors about a benign call from a reporter. The agency this official works for had started limiting staff’s access to information, they said, and it would make it far easier to figure out who was talking to people in the media.
There was suspicion, the official said, that the agency was even tracking what they printed, to keep tabs on what information they were accessing.

BLUF....
the Trump WH leaks faster than most previous WHs.....they do not mind who leaks they just want to control it...

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07-07-2017, 02:50 PM

From former Acting AG who warned Trump about Flynn's problem with Russian connections.........

Sally Yates‏
Verified account
@SallyQYates

POTUS' inexplicable refusal to confirm Russian election interference insults career intel pros & hinders our ability to prevent in future.

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07-07-2017, 06:21 PM

Last time posting to anything on SWJ...not wanting to say I told you so I am...sad that many are not smelling the coffee right about now on the complete sell out of the US and it's democracy....

Lavrov: "Trump mentioned that in US certain circles still inflate subject of Russian meddling in elections, even though they have no proof."

RIA-Novosti: Putin told by @POTUS "some circles in the US are exaggerating the topic of Russian cyber meddling."
http://bit.ly/2tV8qPO

Tillerson says Russian approach to Syria - mass civilian casualties, displacement, total destruction - may be "more right" than US approach

Tillerson: "We want to build on commonality... maybe they've got the right approach and we've got the wrong approach." Jesus, Mary & Joseph

So Tillerson will accept Crimea, Donbass, Russian carpet bombing Syria, and undermining elections across the West. Let's move forward

Here we go. Munich conference all over again. Ukraine gets thrown under the bus without a seat at the meeting table.

BLUF......
Lavrov says Trump "accepted" Putin's assurances that Russia did not hack the U.S. election.

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07-07-2017, 06:23 PM

Now convince me that Trump is not colluding with Russia and that the FOUR key USG ICs got it totally wrong and that the massive FBI SC Mueller investigation is also getting it wrong.....

A US President truly believes a number of HoIS over the USG IC that swears an oath to "defend the US from enemies near and far"...

And some say I am on a soap box??

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07-07-2017, 06:25 PM

NOW we fully understand the Trump cyber security plan for the US...took him over 170 days and with the Russians but he now has one it seems.....

RU-US cybersecurity initiative supported by both Trump and Putin today...and they both agreed to set up a joint group to address it..

The fox literally stealing the chickens instead of a Trump guarding the chicken coop....instead he steals them with assistance of the US President...

No wonder Putin wants to see proof of RU hacking. Wants to find how our IC knows & shut the source...so in fact Trump "trusts FSB, SVR and GRU over his own USG ICs??

AND some say I have been on a "soap box"??

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07-07-2017, 08:26 PM

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07-08-2017, 04:20 AM

Probably one the best articles concerning the US President Trump siding with Putin against US interests and democracy.

Trump Handed Putin a Stunning Victory
From his speech in Poland to his two-hour summit in Hamburg, the president seemed determined to promote Russia’s dark and illiberal view of the world.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/07/trump-handed-putin-a-stunning-victory-215353

Former director of national intelligence James Clapper put the matter well this week: Russia is prepping the battlefield in the United States for what comes next. It is clear the president does not believe this—and it is increasingly clear that his definition of who and what we are as a nation is problematic and dark. If we choose to ignore these warnings—as a government and as a society—we all bear responsibility, and we will all pay the price.

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07-08-2017, 12:07 PM

So who now is actually lying....Tillerson and or Lavrov?????

Betting Tillerson unless he can actually release the official transcripts if any were written....

Tillerson: Trump "pressed" Putin on Russia meddling in US election

Lavrov: Trump said meddling was "exaggerated" & "accepts" Putin's denials

Fancy Trump and Tillerson foot work to avoid looking like they basically lied....

BUT WAIT...that is not the version being carried by Russian media and what is being quoted as being said by the Russian FM who was part of the meeting.....

Jim Acosta‏
Verified account
#@Acosta

Senior admin official tells me POTUS did not accept Putin claim of non-interference in last year's election.

So does this "senior admin official have name????..

REMEMBER Trump bashed the FAKE news media for reporting without using a name and yet they do it all the time....with such comments.

So using the Trump definition of what is not FAKE news this Trump WH comment is in fact FAKE news....

Lavrov: Trump said he heard Putin's statements that Russia didn't hack election and accepts them.

Lavrov: "Trump mentioned that in US certain circles still inflate subject of Russian meddling in elections, even though they have no proof."

So who is lying??

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07-08-2017, 06:59 PM

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07-09-2017, 09:50 AM

AND for those SWC readers and commenters that failed to notice this....REMEMBER Trump's number of public statements...he has had no Russian connections......

As US MSM investigative journalism is finally getting untracked we see suddenly this meeting that never was revealed by the Trump WH...why is that...BTW...this meeting has long been alluded to on social media reporting....four months ago.

And this is not a "back channel".....??

Two weeks after Donald J. Trump clinched the Republican presidential nomination last year, his eldest son arranged a meeting at Trump Tower in Manhattan with a Russian lawyer who has connections to the Kremlin, according to confidential government records described to The New York Times.
The previously undisclosed meeting was also attended by Mr. Trump’s campaign chairman at the time, Paul J. Manafort, as well as the president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, according to interviews and the documents, which were outlined by people familiar with them.
While President Trump has been dogged by revelations of undisclosed meetings between his associates and Russians, this episode at Trump Tower on June 9, 2016, is the first confirmed private meeting between a Russian national and members of Mr. Trump’s inner circle during the campaign. It is also the first time that his son Donald J. Trump Jr. is known to have been involved in such a meeting.

For those interested SWC readers...that unnamed in this article Russian lawyer "WAS a straight to Putin back channel" side stepping USG IC and DoS channels......

For those interested in Russian HoIS operations straight out of page 68 of their recruitment manual...."for clandestine off the books meetings".....

NOTICE Trump WH only admits to the meeting after being confronted by the report....

AND for those that do not understand US IC counterintelligence operations.......

This means the following....
"according to confidential government records"

USG IC CI viewed this Russian lawyer to be a member of HoIS and thus was under surveillance by USG CI......

So Trump....Russian hacking of US...Ukraine...Crimea and Syria are not part and parcel of an ongoing Russian political war against the West in general but specifically the US using Russian non linear warfare as the supporting mechanism??

Based on an ongoing SWC posting dispute...no SWC does not think that.

BUT WAIT......Even SWC posted a VOA article on apparent Russian hacking of US nuclear power plants......

BTW...this was actually proven by European Security Services.....they outright named APT 28.

The core problem is that SWC stove pipes threads and does not focus on those threads that are in fact intertwined with a certain shall we say "degree of complexity"....

Great for pushing a potential if it ever occurs "discussion" bad though for not being able to thoroughly understand the actual events as they unfold...

Russian non linear warfare is 24 X 7 X 365 with no breaks and or time outs taken....but apparently this is in the eyes of SWC..."soap box" posting...

SAD.....as I started in 2005 to read SWC because it was then far more open on comments...focused on the comments and loaded with a ton of tips....and a lot of commenters...now it is simply an echo chamber nothing more nothing less....

OUTLAW 09

07-09-2017, 10:13 AM

Mnuchin says Trump "handled brilliantly" the election mettling issue in Putin bilat.

Doesn't explain how, and Mnuchin wasn't in the meeting.

Reporters asked Trump aides 3x to clear up difference between Russia & U.S. account of Trump-Putin meeting. They didn't answer the ?s.

"The President will be happy to make statements himself," Mnuchin says, after Trump skipped town without holding a G-20 press conference.

NOTICE this comment got flagged for evidently not being in synch with the thread...

But is it not interesting that Russian confirmed hacking of the US election with USG IC holding evidence of Putin involvement....and the still ongoing hacking and influence operation is "supposedly discussed by Trump" for over 40 minutes......WITH as Putin publicly stating "Trump accepted Putin's statement "it ain't us"....

If there is in the world of international relations two different versions of a single meeting then in the past one side or the other releases a certified copy of the actual discussion for all the world to see...BUT here silence on both parties....

AND then we have two ...two separate interpretations of what was actually said and we have two known and verified liars as nation state leaders that no one can really say for sure which one is not lying???

At least the attempted hacking of US nuclear power plants should have motivated Trump to discuss the issue for more than 40 minutes.../

BTW confirmed by European Security Services...as Russian APT 28.

And also confirmed by my research here in Belin.....

OUTLAW 09

07-09-2017, 10:33 AM

My last posting for SWC as I as have other commenters are finding that there is a certain level of censorship in order to avoid "written conflict" or as SWC calls it "soap box"...

It is time to walk away as SWC is no longer even capable of seeing an ongoing actual Russian political war aimed directly at the US every single day using the President of the US as an entry point to destroy US democracy.....and that this particular political war involves, black money, corruption, Russian OC groups, Russian state sponsored hacking, RIS ongoing spy operations and Russian propaganda (info warfare) aimed straight at the proTrump alt right supporters who do not realize they are wrapped up in it against their own democracy...

But as former DNI stated yesterday in an interview....."USG IS always speaks truth to power"......and will continue "to speak truth to power whether that power wants to hear it or not"....

BUT sometimes when one cannot speak truth to power in a public domain...then it is time to leave that public domain...

Myself and few other former commenters will be launching in the coming month a blog site that tracks actual Russian hacking, disinformation and propaganda and the use of massive amounts of black money in their political war with the US......taken from multiple media sites and forums to show how this is being conducted and what success it is having...all with links, and full article postings making it simply easier to read instead of chasing links.

AND it will link straight back into the ongoing proTrump alt right ie white nationalist social media used in pushing Russian narratives both in the US and in Europe and pointing out along the way the massive Russian bot nets supporting this effort.

It will be initially focused on Europe but will expand to include everything ongoing in the US and both "Russian political war fronts" are heavily intertwined.....

Remember Putin has three geo political end states he wants to achieve against the US...in his political war.

1. damage and discredit NATO
2. damage and discredit EU
3. completely and totally disconnect US from Europe and ME, BUT especially from Germany....a 70 year old goal BTW....

Then ask yourself has Trump provided any support to Putin achieving these three geo political goals?....as some are now saying in Europe...Trump is actively supporting Putin....

Might be hard for Americans to accept this, but easy for Europeans as they match Trump's own words, tweets, public statements at rallies straight to actual on the ground actions...

We seem to forget that the WH has gone on the record as stating all Trump tweets are "official WH statements"....

OUTLAW 09

07-09-2017, 10:52 AM

AND for those SWC readers and commenters that failed to notice this....REMEMBER Trump's number of public statements...he has had no Russian connections......

BTW...for those that have been issued a USG security clearance and has filled out and or updated your SF 86......

Trump's son-in-law Kushner mentioned in this meeting with a USG IC thought to be potential HoIS DID NOT include this meeting on his SF 86...

"Completely forgot about it" JUST as he did two other Russian meetings...THIS is the third time he has under pressure been forced to potentially update his incorrectly filled out SF86....SEEMS he just does not understand the question....."Have you ever meet with and or had meetings with and or have any ongoing contacts or business dealings with any foreigner---if YES please list all details, names and addresses on a separate sheet if necessary"?

In the "normal world" this individual would have been fired, his clearance revoked and potentially sentenced to jail time and or a fine for lying outright to USG clearance investigators....MULTIPLE times....just once as a "simple mistake"....

BUT he seemingly gets a "pass".....why is that?

BTW....this is the Russian lawyer contact and meeting he failed to enter in his SF86....kind of an important item to simply "forget"...

The attorney, Natalia Veselnitskaya, isn't just "Kremlin-connected," she'a a well-known RU mob lawyer w/known and verified FSB links