View Full Version : Transition

04-09-2007, 09:15 PM
I'm looking for some information regarding the problems incurred during transition to stability operations. Specifically, I'm looking for something on the problems faced by combat units refocusing on maintaining law and order.

Basically, I've seen references to the idea that infantry do not make good cops given the nature of their training. I need some meat on that bone. Thanks in advance.

04-09-2007, 09:54 PM
Do you have room in your PM box for about a ream of electronic paper? :D

I think Tom is going to point you to a number of CALL products (or maybe not) straight away.

I can offer personal insight from a snapshot of time between 4-11 April, when my battalion was outside Baghdad, observing the insanity, but that's just my own point of view.

04-09-2007, 11:56 PM
... has some reference material. the Transition - Post-Conflict - End-State - Exit Strategy (http://smallwarsjournal.com/reference/transition.php) page and the Security / Stability / Humanitarian Operations (http://smallwarsjournal.com/reference/security.php) page have the most.

04-10-2007, 12:44 AM
There are several Congressional Research Service (CRS) documents that look at this topic too.

John T. Fishel
04-10-2007, 11:35 AM
Joe Napoli's article, Capacity Building for Peacekeeping in Latin America and the Caribbean: The Case of Haiti is one of a series of articles published in the on-line journal of the Center for Hemispheric Defense Stidies, "Security & Defense Studies Review" Vol.5, No. 1 Spring 2005 http://www.ndu.edu/chds/journal/indexarcspring05.htm. Although about half the articles are in Spanish and (1) Portuguese, there are English abstracts of all of them. In addition, it is coming out as a book in English (scheduled publication is July) by NDU Press/Potomac Press and will be available on line at the NDU Press site under the title Capacity Building for Peacekeeping: The Case of Haiti, edited by John T. Fishel and Andres Saenz.
Since I am blowing my own horn, I recommend my SSI pubs from 1992, The Fog of Peace: Planning and Executing the Reconstruction of Panama and Liberation, Occupation, and Rescue: War Termination and Desert Storm. both of these also make up the major part of my book, Civil-Military Operations in the New World, Praeger, 1997. Although the price is outrageous, it is available in most university libraries and military academic libraries.

Tom Odom
04-10-2007, 01:20 PM
For some military history on the subject go to the Combat Studies Institute Press (http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/csi/csi.asp)and browse. There are any number of relevant books and papers there to fit the bill.

Some specifics include:

LP # 3 on 1958 Lebanon; Look also at the Research Survey # 3 on Rapid Deployment Logistics in Lebanon as well as Gary Wade's Interviews with MG Gray on Lebanon under CSI Reprints
LP #15 on Dom Rep
Special Study on Somalia by Baumann, Yates, and Washington
Certain Victory by Scales, Johnson, and Odom
Intervasion (haiti) by Baumann and Kretchik
OP #16
OP # 7 (this one is on transition)
OP #14
OP # 12
OP # 21
OP # 15

As for CALL just go to the web site and burrow in using the search mechanism. Be sure and look at On Point which covers OIF 1.


04-10-2007, 03:39 PM
Thanks for the tips. I'm basically trying to look into the argument that infantry is ill-fitted for constabulary type duties since they're trained to use firepower rather than the soft approach used by law enforcement.

I am unfamiliar with CALL. Can someone enlighten me?

Tom Odom
04-10-2007, 03:52 PM
CALL is the Center for Army Lessons Learned (http://call.army.mil/)

You should be able to log on or at least request a password. CALL serves as a repository on lessons learned and a publisher of current TTPs for virtually all forms of military operations and theaters of operation.

I are a CALLite and a AGGIE


Look at Mobility, Vigilance, and justice: the US Army Constabulary in Germany, 1946-1953, Kendall D. Gott. CSI OP Paper #11. (http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/csi/csi.asp#global)


04-10-2007, 08:46 PM
During the Northern Ireland "Troubles", starting in 1969 till the ceasefire now four years ago, the British Army deployed a large force, mainly infantry units to both rural and urban areas. Most of the army units were on short tours (from memory four months), and a smaller number were garrison units (on three year tours, i.e with families).

The Army developed a training system for pre-deployment, based in Germany and the U.K. with mock-up streets etc.

I do not recall criticism of the inability of infantry units to change role, although non-infantry units, e.g artillery, were deployed on short tours.

Remember at the start the Army took responsibility for policing (say 1969-1975). At one point around 30,000 troops were deployed; draining the main British Army in Germany.

Much was made of the impact of the training for junior officers and NCO's, including speaking to the press. Plus the adaptability of the British soldier.

Within the Army were two large regiments of military police, engineers (for searching), human and non-human intelligence gathering and small undercover units (SAS and recce).

On my bookshelf are a few tiltles (now dated):

Frank Kitson's Low Intensity Operations (1971) & Bunch of FIve (1977)
Mark Urban's Bog Boys Rules (1992)
Mark Hamill's Pig in the Middle (1985)
Tony Geraghty's The Irish War (1998)

Infantry unsuitable, rubbish! It is not the soldiers at fault, but the strategy used.


04-10-2007, 11:30 PM
davidbfpo, agree with you 100%. modern police departments have only been around for a little over 100 years, before then it was soldiers.