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slapout9
12-01-2007, 04:07 PM
Nice Las Vegas PD Takedown.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FSG5I6fL_Q

selil
12-01-2007, 04:40 PM
"Take your hands out of your pockets and step to the police car...."

---> Key phrase "You are making me nervous"...

I've told you "Take your hands...."

Do not resist.

Do not resists or you're going to get the Taser...

TOUCHDOWN!!!! You're right good police work. Though the "Amped" up comment could suggest he already had decided to whack on the guy, and the police officer that was already there should have been contact rather than the guy rolling up second (who should have been cover).

slapout9
12-01-2007, 04:45 PM
Hi selil, I didn't really try to analyze it that much I just thought it was a cool takedown.:) Your analysis of the overall situation is probably correct.

PS. I really like your post on another thread about writing the guy a ticket over the dog barking incident.:)

selil
12-01-2007, 04:57 PM
It's been a long time since I worked on the street, but I had fun when I did. I never took myself or the job to seriously. When I worked inside the Jail and in the Courts I figured out I liked being inside where it is warm and it didn't rain.

carl
12-01-2007, 05:05 PM
Cool Takedown!

That is much better than a leg sweep because it is much more of a shocking surprise.

I am not sure we could have gotten away with that though because it looks a lot like a blow to the throat.

davidbfpo
12-01-2007, 07:57 PM
What would have happened if the white male's head had hit the pavement and split open? The way that move works it is dangerous and appears to rely on the victim naturally keeping the head off the floor. If their co-ordination is reduced by drink or drugs - messy.

davidbfpo

Ken White
12-01-2007, 08:45 PM
brain damage, I suspect. Given the knee on the back of his neck, I imagine he got a skinned nose at a minimum to add to his sore larnyx.

Our Police are not generally as polite or tolerant as yours -- though my perception is that our hooligans are not nearly as prevalent or rough as yours. Cause and effect? Dunno.

What I do know from a brief stint as a Cop, US variety, is that the most common crime in the US is P.O.P. - Pissing Off the Police. Generally wise to avoid that. Also been my observation that when confronted with two armed and healthy males, discretion is almost always the better part of stupidity. There are some here in the US who might sympathize with the young man and rail about Police brutality but most folks won't.

We do speak an approximately similar language but the mores and standards are a bit different. Neither's wrong, they're just different.

selil
12-01-2007, 09:41 PM
Police officer responding to scence of a fight between two adult males has three things on his mind. First protect himself and bystanders, secure the individuals involved, and secure the scene. The key phrase from the officers lips was "You are making me nervous" that is code language and two steps up the ladder of force from presence. The first step would be holding his hands up in front of him. The officer gave the obligatory three warnings. He could have waited but hands in the pockets (and he forced his left hand deeper after being warned) is the last thing a perpetrator should do. I've sat on sevral internal affairs reviews (one of the reasons I'm no longer a cop), and this case I'd have smacked the officer for grand standing in front of the cameras and gave him a "go ahead" on the use of force. Listen to what he says once he has the guy down. Talking the suspect "cleanly" through the take down is excellent technique yet force was maintained and the guy was even warned a fourth time of possible escalation (don't make me get the taser out). As I said earlier taking over contact as a second responding officer instead of taking cover would have me whack him in a review board. Though I would piss in a police chiefs cheerios if he brought something this silly to a review board. Dang three posts about the police and I'm devolving already....

RTK
12-01-2007, 10:35 PM
Looked a lot like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uUT1OCKMs0).

Do you smell what I'm cookin'? :D

selil
12-01-2007, 11:31 PM
Rotflmao...

LawVol
12-02-2007, 02:41 AM
There should be a "sportscenter" for cops and that would definitely make it on the highlights!! The guy had his chance... Guns and badges tend to put me in obey mode.

carl
12-02-2007, 03:43 AM
What would have happened if the white male's head had hit the pavement and split open?

davidbfpo

His posture, facial expression and refusal to take his hands out of his pockets meant that guy was going down to the pavement in any event. The technique worked well. Everybody went home that night, the young gentleman to a new home, but home never-the-less.

Ron Humphrey
12-02-2007, 07:08 AM
What would have happened if the white male's head had hit the pavement and split open? The way that move works it is dangerous and appears to rely on the victim naturally keeping the head off the floor. If their co-ordination is reduced by drink or drugs - messy.

davidbfpo

I think this is probably why the tact chosen was best. The fact that he did not know what might be in the pocket lent to the wisdom of a surprise move. This in turn would bring the suspect's natural reaction to try and catch himself dis-allowing the use of any weapon which might be hidden.

I say good call.

RTK
12-02-2007, 12:00 PM
There should be a "sportscenter" for cops and that would definitely make it on the highlights!! The guy had his chance... Guns and badges tend to put me in obey mode.

If it was on NFL Prime Time, he definately would have made Tom Jackson's "Jacked Up"

slapout9
12-05-2007, 12:52 AM
New anti-theft device.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pFHmDvK3g0&feature=related

selil
12-05-2007, 02:10 AM
You sure this isn't a blackwater add?

Rifleman
12-05-2007, 08:06 PM
slapout9,

Great video. I'd seen it before, but it's always fun to watch again.

davidbfpo,

True, but sometimes a cop has seconds to make a decision that can be reviewed for years. I think the cop did good. I suspect the move would get your esteemed countryman W.E. Fairbairn's approval as well.

KenWhite,

P.O.P.? I thought it was C.O.C. - Contempt of Cop. :D I'm sure that's in our state statutes somewhere. Or at least our municipal code. ;)

slapout9
12-05-2007, 08:37 PM
Rifleman, great catch I was wondering if anybody was old enough to recognize the move. I worship at the alter of Fairbarn and Applegate every chance I get.:wry:


davidbfpo that's right you folks taught it to us.

Ken White
12-05-2007, 08:46 PM
...KenWhite,

P.O.P.? I thought it was C.O.C. - Contempt of Cop. :D I'm sure that's in our state statutes somewhere. Or at least our municipal code. ;)

That's a felony; the misdemeanor of P.O.P only gets you a ticket or minimal slammer time... :D

Slapout;

Fairbairn and Applegate??? Who dey??? (You ARE Old.... ;) )

Ron Humphrey
12-05-2007, 09:42 PM
:wry:
Rifleman, great catch I was wondering if anybody was old enough to recognize the move. I worship at the alter of Fairbarn and Applegate every chance I get

More names and history to research. :wry:

Norfolk
12-06-2007, 12:08 AM
:wry:

More names and history to research. :wry:

And don't forget Sykes!

Well, I'm not OLD:D (despite the fact that I'm mostly grey already:eek:) and I have at least a couple of Fairbairn's pieces. In the RCR our marksmanship and weapons handling training was still called the "Shoot to Live" Program.

I wonder if the Shanghai Municipal Police are anything like their 1930's forebears?

Rifleman
12-06-2007, 01:41 AM
:wry:

More names and history to research. :wry:

Ron,

Start your research here:

www.gutterfighting.org

When you've read everything on that site.....read it over again! Enjoy! :)

slapout9
12-06-2007, 01:51 AM
Here is how they do it in the UK:)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ri6XQPKhLDY&feature=related

Rifleman
12-06-2007, 01:59 AM
Good'un!

You can't fix stupid and stupid should hurt.

Norfolk
12-06-2007, 02:09 AM
Ya know, this all takes me back to POW handling training...aahhh, good times, good times.:)

And I just remembered, I've got one of Applegate's works too!

It's funny how just about everyone posting on this thread is either an infantryman, a police officer, or both. Hmmm.

selil
12-06-2007, 02:16 AM
It's funny how just about everyone posting on this thread is either an infantryman, a police officer, or both. Hmmm.

I'm a "wuzza" I wuzza law enforcement officer, I wuzza Marine, and at one time for a short time I wuzza in the Army NG. Now I'm a professor talking about what I wuzza.

slapout9
12-06-2007, 02:23 AM
Ya know, this all takes me back to POW handling training...aahhh, good times, good times.:)

And I just remembered, I've got one of Applegate's works too!

It's funny how just about everyone posting on this thread is either an infantryman, a police officer, or both. Hmmm.


cops make good Infantryman and Infantryman make good cops:)

Norfolk
12-06-2007, 02:53 AM
Yep, we're all one big, happy family.:D

Ken White
12-06-2007, 04:38 AM
with calloused knuckles... ;)

slapout9
12-23-2007, 12:43 AM
Hi Guys, check this out! Like Rifleman says stupid should hurt:)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGGLoCGDxZ8&feature=related

Rifleman
12-23-2007, 09:02 PM
I'm sure it was probably good but I couldn't open it without regestering at youtube. :(

slapout9
03-05-2008, 12:03 AM
Check this out a Polish SWAT team to the tune of Jan Hammer- Miami Vice 2006. This was supposed to be in the movie as the updated Crockett's theme but it was cut somehow. Anyway turn it up!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4hoqq2zi-M

Ken White
03-05-2008, 01:42 AM
LINK (http://blutube.policeone.com/Clip-fs.aspx?key=5E1E72EAE53841E3&overrideCF=FullScreen&playTime=0).

slapout9
03-19-2008, 04:16 PM
I have watched this show a couple of times and it seems pretty good. Tonight the episode is going to deal with the generations of gangs. I saw a short promo about a banger that was bragging about how his grandfather was in the gang,his father was in the gang and now he is in the gang. :eek:
link for local listings.
http://www.history.com/minisite.do?content_type=Minisite_Episodes&content_type_id=57344&display_order=2&mini_id=56143

slapout9
04-16-2008, 02:21 AM
Link to Strategy page about how reserve Police officers are in demand by Army and Marines.



http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htintel/articles/20080415.aspx

selil
04-16-2008, 02:48 AM
Link to Strategy page about how reserve Police officers are in demand by Army and Marines.



http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htintel/articles/20080415.aspx

Slap, I know its been a long time since I worked the booking counter and longer since I did anything remotely looking like police work, but dang isn't this a "duh!" kind of moment? Of course PGW1 (err Persian Gulf War 1) found me working lots of extra hours as those reserve officers all got snatched up for normal duty. Target them for call up? Interesting.

slapout9
04-26-2008, 01:12 AM
Some Police Humor:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl8rtpnE5O4

davidbfpo
04-26-2008, 10:32 AM
Slap,

I am not sure who needs the counselling, the wife, girlfriend or singer? Salutary reminder domestic violence is not always male upon female.

davidbfpo

slapout9
04-26-2008, 03:16 PM
david, all three in my opinion.

slapout9
06-21-2008, 11:23 PM
Whiskey For My Men, Beer For My Horses;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKDMVy3taCw&feature=related

davidbfpo
06-22-2008, 10:20 AM
Very good, an inspiration to all those analysts; how long is the induction course for them?

davidbfpo

Ron Humphrey
06-22-2008, 06:30 PM
Very good, an inspiration to all those analysts; how long is the induction course for them?

davidbfpo

It's just too bad it often takes so long or cost so much for many of them to learn that simple lesson.

Sergeant T
06-25-2008, 08:45 PM
Shot Philadelphia Officer Chases Down His Gunman (http://www.officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=42000)


His left elbow was pierced and bleeding from a .38-caliber slug fired by a suspected robber, but Officer Mark S. Uffelman, 52 - a trophy-winning long-distance runner - wasn't about to lose.

slapout9
06-25-2008, 10:36 PM
That guy looks like Paul Newman!

davidbfpo
04-04-2009, 12:36 PM
Seems appropriate to drop this footage here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhfNQBNrp9Y

Refers to a bank robbery in Alicante, Spain in 2007 and some direct action taken. The footgae clip has been around awhile, but has a new lease of life in 2009 - according to a swift Google check.

davidbfpo

slapout9
04-06-2009, 07:46 AM
Seems appropriate to drop this footage here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhfNQBNrp9Y

Refers to a bank robbery in Alicante, Spain in 2007 and some direct action taken. The footgae clip has been around awhile, but has a new lease of life in 2009 - according to a swift Google check.

davidbfpo


A masterpiece of Police Work;)

Rifleman
04-10-2009, 02:17 AM
And then there's the brachial stun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5eLpEKC_TQ

Like I said, you can't fix stupid but at least stupid should hurt.

Rifleman
04-10-2009, 02:27 AM
And who said straight up boxing isn't a real martial art?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RavVAM7f_M

He does a little flailing initially until he settles in and finds his range but all things considered he doesn't do too bad, now does he?: stays on his feet; sticks and moves.

Hacksaw
04-10-2009, 08:08 PM
I'd say he acquited himelf real well

Schmedlap
04-10-2009, 09:02 PM
Seems appropriate to drop this footage here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhfNQBNrp9Y

Refers to a bank robbery in Alicante, Spain in 2007 and some direct action taken.

A related film popped up after viewing that. It's "How to drive a Hummer in Iraq" (If we actually have Hummer's in Iraq, then Fraud, Waste, and Abuse has been taken to a new level, but I guess that's for a new thread)

At first, I thought that this was some cocky, poorly supervised individual who thought he was some kind of tough guy. But, after a minute or so, seeing that he's not really bumping these cars too hard, and seeing the traffic congestion, I thought it was a good example of good driving. That is, until he went into oncoming traffic...

I directed my driver into oncoming traffic several times - but never when traffic was as congested as it was in the video, in both directions - and certainly not in an area where the traffic pattern is that complex. Usually it was on a straight road, when traffic ahead of us was backed up, but traffic in the oncoming direction was relatively clear.

I think it could be a good instructional video, had it continued on for another few minutes. I'm not sure what happens after the tape stops. My reaction, while viewing, was that these guys got way too far to the left and were only going to make traffic worse, portray a very poor image of American Soldiers, not get to where ever they were going much sooner, and not doing a whole lot to mitigate the threat of an attack while moving slowly or temporarily halted.

When traffic is that congested, I always thought it more prudent to either
a) dismount and help to unscrew traffic
- and/or
b) dismount to augment security provided by the turret gunners

slapout9
04-11-2009, 02:37 AM
And who said straight up boxing isn't a real martial art?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RavVAM7f_M

He does a little flailing initially until he settles in and finds his range but all things considered he doesn't do too bad, now does he?: stays on his feet; sticks and moves.

Not only that he is outnumbered 3..4..5 to one? as far as people and what 2 or 3 cars he has worry about also:eek: He did goooood:wry:

slapout9
10-16-2009, 02:23 PM
Advice on how to avoid being a murder victim......well maybe:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGvRnExK_qM&feature=sub

slapout9
12-23-2009, 12:42 AM
They tried to rob the bank in Slapout:D didn't work out so well for the bad guy.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20091222/NEWS01/912220329/Elmore+County+man+arrested+for+robbery

slapout9
06-12-2010, 05:57 AM
Reporter decides to take a bite out of crime.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIAHSbyl0bw

slapout9
08-24-2010, 11:27 PM
Link to DEA story on hiring Ebonics translators:eek:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20014574-504083.html

slapout9
11-24-2010, 12:28 AM
This is really good.:D


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=118_1290452447

slapout9
12-16-2010, 01:08 PM
Americans fight terrorism the old fashioned way....with Moral courage....don't need know Bio-metric,X-ray,laser beam,digital whatever,TSA scanners. Just be willing to fight for what is right!


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=40689056&#40689056

davidbfpo
01-12-2011, 10:36 PM
What? I can here SWC saying.


On December 11, a group of 15-year-old schoolboys found themselves in the middle of a several thousand strong race riot in central Moscow. The boys, already badly beaten, were rescued by four unarmed OMON [special police force] officers. In contrast to their assailants, the boys and police officers demonstrated heartwarming values of togetherness and camaraderie. Theirs is the real Russia, argue Andrei Loshak and Svetlana Reiter.

Maybe an over-long article, so you can skip to the video link.

Link (missed when posted):http://www.opendemocracy.net/od-russia/andrei-loshak-svetlana-reiter/decency-hope-friendship-real-story-from-moscows-race-riots?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzEmail&utm_content=201210&utm_campaign=0

By one of the four officers:
We had not brought our guns. We had just gone on the beat and never expected things to take such a turn. And to go out on the beat with a shield, in a helmet, with a truncheon and a Jetta is to provoke people. Even if we had had guns we would most probably not have used them.

I was struck by the youth of the officers and relatively short service.

AdamG
01-14-2011, 05:22 PM
Reading music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGoEcIEv3_Y


Federal agents are embedding with homicide investigators in Prince George's County starting this week in a rare move as authorities scramble to react to a string of 13 killings that have occurred already in 2011.

"It is very unusual for us to bring in agents and embed them in our homicide division," said police spokesman Maj. Andy Ellis. "I can't remember us doing that since probably the mid-to-late '90s."

The county has been rocked by news of a homicide spike since New Year's Day. The county's 13 killings exceed the 12 U.S. military deaths that have occurred this year in Afghanistan as of Friday morning.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/maryland/2011/01/feds-go-pg-help-county-investigate-homicides#ixzz1B1ylLf4k

davidbfpo
09-30-2011, 07:08 PM
A Belgian couple on holiday in Spain spotted the armed criminals who had carjacked them at gunpoint a month previously in Liege, 1,200 miles away.

Link:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/8799442/Carjacked-couple-spot-criminals-on-holiday-1200-miles-away.html

slapout9
07-18-2012, 05:15 AM
Check out this video of a Chinese Police Woman and a hostage situation, happens around the 2:20 mark on the video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xM_PiWZN-E&feature=related

bourbon
02-06-2013, 08:48 PM
A terrible little situation resolved down in Alabama:

Alabama Hostage Taker Jimmy Lee Dykes Exchanged Gunfire With Agents, Planted Homemade Bombs in Bunker (http://abcnews.go.com/US/alabama-hostage-taker-jimmy-lee-dykes-exchanged-gunfire/story?id=18416387), ABC News, Feb. 6, 2013.

Jimmy Lee Dykes, the man who held a 5-year-old boy hostage for nearly a week in an underground bunker in Alabama, had two homemade explosive devices on his property and engaged in a firefight with SWAT agents before they stormed the bunker and killed him, according to the FBI.

One explosive device was found inside the bunker and another was located in the PVC pipe negotiators used to communicate with Dykes, the FBI said Tuesday night. Both devices were "disrupted," according to the FBI. The search for hazards is expected to continue through today.

Preliminary investigation reports indicate that Dykes engaged in a firefight with the SWAT agents who made entry, according to the FBI.

SOFREP.com is reporting (http://sofrep.com/16948/hrt-conducts-successful-hostage-rescue-in-alabama-spec-ops-breakdown/)that FBI's Hostage Rescue Team conducted the operation.