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Jedburgh
07-15-2008, 01:11 PM
I'm looking for a relatively obscure text that I've caught several references to in more current publications. Its a 146-page report on tribal control policy/desert policing by General Henri Lapperine, submitted to the French War Ministry Africa Section on 27 July 1919. I believe it is simply titled Note du General Laperrine sur les territoires Sahariens.

A scan would be greatly appreciated - a hard copy would be fantastic.

marct
07-15-2008, 01:33 PM
I wouldn't mind a copy myself....

Ron Humphrey
07-15-2008, 01:55 PM
I'm looking for a relatively obscure text that I've caught several references to in more current publications. Its a 146-page report on tribal control policy/desert policing by General Henri Lapperine, submitted to the French War Ministry Africa Section on 27 July 1919. I believe it is simply titled Note du General Laperrine sur les territoires Sahariens.

A scan would be greatly appreciated - a hard copy would be fantastic.

Link (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22de+Foucauld%22+%22Lettres+in%C3%A9dites+*+g%C 3%A9n%C3%A9ral%22)

Jedburgh
07-15-2008, 02:01 PM
Link (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22de+Foucauld%22+%22Lettres+in%C3%A9dites+*+g%C 3%A9n%C3%A9ral%22)
Thanks; I tried that before I posted. Picked up more references to it, but couldn't turn up the actual document.

John T. Fishel
07-15-2008, 06:47 PM
to a good university library? Or a DOD research library (such as the CARL, NDU, or the Army War College)? If so, I would try getting the librarians to see if they can't scare up a copy through interlibrary loan or electronically. An official request to the French national archives might also work.

Cheers

JohnT

Jedburgh
07-15-2008, 07:22 PM
Do you have access to a good university library? Or a DOD research library (such as the CARL, NDU, or the Army War College)?
John, I'm in the Ozarks. Library access hell, I wish I was just within a reasonable distance of a decent bookstore. You've seen those TV commercials about I've just found the internet.. Well, its someplace like that - except you can find little trailer churches in places that you wonder where the congregation is living. Getting online works best sittin' next to the still, but it works.

I could probably drive up to Leavenworth - its only about 300 miles or so. I don't believe there's a good university library any closer than that. But looking for the easy alternative first, the straightforward searches having come up empty, I was hoping to find someone that would share a scan.

I guess I'm going to have to get more creative if I actually want to get my hands on a copy.

Ted

Hacksaw
07-15-2008, 08:21 PM
Did a quick search of CARL -- no joy, :(

Cavguy
07-15-2008, 08:59 PM
Recommend contacting the author of the below - Hacksaw or COL Gentile may be able to provide POC info from his USMA time. I read parts of it and to write it he dived deep into the French WWI military archives. Different subject, but perhaps could point to the right place.

http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/DOUPYR.html?show=reviews

Jedburgh
07-15-2008, 09:16 PM
Recommend contacting the author of the below - Hacksaw or COL Gentile may be able to provide POC info from his USMA time. I read parts of it and to write it he dived deep into the French WWI military archives. Different subject, but perhaps could point to the right place.

http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/DOUPYR.html?show=reviews
Thanks; I'm actually working along those lines trying to get in contact with another author (http://www.huss.ex.ac.uk/history/staff/thomas/) who has written specifically on the topic, and who has referred to that specific document in a couple of his pubs. No luck yet....

davidbfpo
07-15-2008, 09:48 PM
In the classic book on French colonial warfare, 'The Conquest of Morocco: A Savage Colonial War' by Douglas Porch (my edition pub. 1987), makes three slight references to General Laperrine. Perhaps Professor Porch knows where a copy is, maybe has one? His home page is: http://www.ccc.nps.navy.mil/people/porch.asp

davidbfpo

John T. Fishel
07-16-2008, 01:39 AM
sounds like you are closer to me than to Leavenworth.:D

Cheers

JohnT

Ron Humphrey
07-16-2008, 02:17 AM
I'm looking for a relatively obscure text that I've caught several references to in more current publications. Its a 146-page report on tribal control policy/desert policing by General Henri Lapperine, submitted to the French War Ministry Africa Section on 27 July 1919. I believe it is simply titled Note du General Laperrine sur les territoires Sahariens.

A scan would be greatly appreciated - a hard copy would be fantastic.

26 library search

about 77 copies of Lettre inedites du general Lapperrine au commandant Cauvet 1902-1920 Author: Lappererine, Henri

Also a recommendation that Faucold may be a good resource to look at as well as Perrien (I hope I remembered those right.

Will get you the links tomorrow morning. :D

Jedburgh
07-16-2008, 11:42 AM
Here's the answer I received:

...General Lapperine's report is in the French Mandate administrations archive in Nantes but has never been published. I'm afraid that I don't have a copy, having taken notes from it in situ. I'll be happy to provide the specific canton reference should you find yourself in the Nantes area....
Well then, next project. Who's going to go to Nantes, translate it into English and publish it over here? :wry:

marct
07-16-2008, 05:07 PM
Here's the answer I received:

Well then, next project. Who's going to go to Nantes, translate it into English and publish it over here? :wry:

Dominique Poirier (http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/member.php?u=1189) when we need him :wry:? I'll make you a deal... If you can get Dominique to get a copy for you, I'll meet up with him in Paris next summer and get it to you :D.