The Conspiracy Thread

[slapout9]

We have needed this for a long time. I have been searching for a good one to start with. Instead of the beginning, in good Army Strategy fashion we will start with END....as in 2012. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbBmlHGgsgc

[selil]

of course in an obscured method nobody would divine a current day general in 1992 wrote about the coup of 2012 http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/research_pubs/p087.pdf

Coincidence <raised eyebrow> I think not....

[Ken White]

with gravel... :D

[jmm99]

meeting at a point none could foresee; but in which all have some interest. How's that for an inscrutable statement.

Comes about from having downloaded two articles by Charles J. Dunlap, Jr., within the hour: Sam's link and a non-scifi piece, Law and Military Interventions (http://www.duke.edu/~pfeaver/dunlap.pdf)(2001), which deals with Lawfare.

How I got to Lawfare came from reading Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, Unrestricted Warfare (http://www.terrorism.com/documents/TRC-Analysis/unrestricted.pdf) (1999) - about 1/2 way through - which has a brief discussion of Lawfare. Briefly, Lawfare is the use of I Law to weaken the position of a stronger opponent (negative use vs the US), or to strengthen an already strong position (positive use if employed by the US, which has not done well at it).

Use of Lawfare vs the US (and its Western allies) is not really new. The 1959 JAG Treatise (http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/pdf/treatise.pdf) on irregular combatants predicted its use (pp.5-6):


Finally, any estimate of the use of irregulars in the future must consider two key tenets of Communism; the inevitability of class warfare, and the command to turn ordinary wars into class wars. Irregular combatants are the means by which a class war is begun and carried out. A Russian publicist has advanced a theory of the legality of irregular warfare based upon a just-unjust war dichotomy, which is partly based upon Marxian theory. The theory seems peculiarly suited to application in class warfare. Therefore, in the future large numbers of irregular combatants may oppose conventional armies. If so, the problem of the legal status of the irregular combatant will be posed in a more acute form than heretofore.

Not a bad crystal ball for 1959 - and a concept equally applicable to Islamic violent actors where the Western regular war laws are ignored.

In fact, adoption of 1977 Additional Protocal I to the GCs seems the earliest example of Lawfare at its highest level. See Rex A. Childers (http://www.ohiolink.edu/etd/send-pdf.cgi/Childers%20Rex%20A.pdf?acc_num=bgsu1214247432), THE RATIONALITY OF NONCONFORMITY: THE UNITED STATES DECISION TO REFUSE RATIFICATION OF PROTOCOL I ADDITIONAL TO THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS OF 1949 (2008), which discusses this example of Lawfare from the standpoint of national strategies.

Things on this board seem to come around to Small Wars regardless of where they start. Now, on to reading the Dunlop articles & finishing the Chinese piece, which is more up Sam's alley - but also is generally of interest to the question of how much will war be "civilianized" in the future.

[selil]

Unrestricted Warfare is really interesting. The authors I believe were at Infowarcon earlier this year. I read it a couple years back for the first time and was mystified that nobody else had seemed to read it. Talk about the end of the world as we know it.

I have to say though I don't agree with Gen. Dunlap, though I have attempted to persuade him to my views, and found my arguments not swaying him. I like the guy. In my two discussions with him he was personable intelligent and wholly wrong. But, I liked the guy. And, yes he reads Small Wars Council/Journal I asked him last time we spoke.

By August I should have built up enough evidence to persuade anybody to the end of the world via little tiny bits and bytes. How do eat an elephant? 64 bits at a time.....

[slapout9]

Watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3zhdRErYT8


Unrestricted Warfare is close to General Deptula's idea of EBO.:eek:

[jmm99]

those two gals could be weaponized to achieve the ultimate ends of unrestricted warfare.

Only dial up at home, so I had to wait until today to enjoy the youtubes.

[slapout9]

jmm99, wait until you see the ones about magic!!! Marct will have a field day with those:)

[jmm99]

your magic girls; but, if they are black magic girls, they have to beat my personal favorite from the 1980s in that genre, Elvira, Mistress of the Dark - less well known as Cassandra Peterson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra_Peterson), who has aged OK - 57 in this 2005 shot (attached).

Looked better in her 1970s photo shoots for such as Playgirl; but then she was 30 years younger and so was I. The 70s shots are online (you can do the searching); maybe Stan has them archived. :D

Cassandra also added to American jurisprudence with her largely successful defense in Nurmi v. Peterson, the case in which Maila Nurmi ("Vampira") sued Cassandra, for copyright infringement: District Court, C.D. California, Nurmi v. Peterson (http://www.vampirathemovie.com/Nurmi-v-Peterson.php), No. CV 88-5436-WMB, Decided March 31, 1989.

[slapout9]

You have just crossed over into the Twilight Zone:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTSX91J6UtE

[slapout9]

The New World Order NWO for dummies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSVDM2LZhOs

[slapout9]

As promised Magic part 1. Marct, this seems to be your area of operation so let us know how accurate it is;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8T5tSBGYmw&feature=PlayList&p=BE566B632ED575F4&index=0&playnext=1

[J Wolfsberger]

We have needed this for a long time. I have been searching for a good one to start with. Instead of the beginning, in good Army Strategy fashion we will start with END....as in 2012. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbBmlHGgsgc

Karen, AKA "spricket24," is seriously cool.

Here's my theory of the next apocalypse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IJBbtkBMMs. Appropriate to SWC because it involves the possibility of a really scary insurgency.

Shouldn't this thread be in Kitakidogo Social Club?

[slapout9]

The Bush Family Tree:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ldZS9PL9KE

[slapout9]

magic part 2......got some 5 rings analysis going on here:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIiKHSmXM5k


Bet it works on Indians and Revolutionary war types.......

[Van]

Slap,
I'll stick with Musashi's five rings.

V

[slapout9]

Hi Van, good choice that whole book is magical;)

[slapout9]

Time for a little Drug War Conspiracy Stuff.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzNJd0Aw7zQ

[slapout9]

oh no, more impending doom:eek:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1n-7SGDOVo

[slapout9]

UFO's in Mexico last month...eye karumba!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8bptMpkkjc&feature=popular

[Backwards Observer]

Are the PLA developing a Red version of a well-known and venerable Council member? Odds bodkins!

Superior Training (http://wuxinghongqi.blogspot.com/2009/07/superior-training-of-pla-shooter.html)

(h/t War Is Boring)

[Zack]

so this worried me.

http://www.prosebeforehos.com/ask-a-shiite/05/31/ask-a-shiite-perceptions-of-america-in-the-middle-east/

Masonic conspiracies? Clearly the illumanati are behind everything and are bent on destroying Islam.

[davidbfpo]

so this worried me. http://www.prosebeforehos.com/ask-a-shiite/05/31/ask-a-shiite-perceptions-of-america-in-the-middle-east/ Masonic conspiracies? Clearly the illumanati are behind everything and are bent on destroying Islam.

Zack,

Yes, an odd site, but condemns AQ / Jihadist terror. Illuminates the schism within the Muslim faith.

davidbfpo

[George L. Singleton]

Illuminates the schism within the Muslim faith.

Absolutely correct.

And the topic of Masonry is completely absurd. I am a Mason, separate and apart from being a Christian of the Protestant persuasion. Masonry is not a religion but a good works society. Examples: There exist today several Masonic funded burn hospitals in the USA. Childrens orphanages. Free Masonic nursing home for the elderly survivors of past members of the Masonic Order. In Tennessee the Masonic Grand Lodge of all of Tennessee is jointly funding together with Habitat for Humanity construction of homes for the poor. Nothing there about a "New World Order." That topic comes under the subheading "Attempts using violence to recreate a Caliphate."

Religious groups likewise do similar good works as a spin off of their faiths. But Masonry is not a religion. Nor are the Taliban and al Qaida a religion, but they "pretend" to be one. The terrorists are heretics to the true spirit and name of Islam, which means peace.

[Zack]

Well this particular guy seems to be an Islamist, probably Iranian. I still think, if this guy's view is representative of Shia Muslims, that it betrays gross ignorance. Not the harmless kind.

[tequila]

Uh, what makes you think that site is particularly representative of Shia Islam?

Most prominent Shia ayatollahs have websites, you know. Here's Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani's (http://www.sistani.org/).

Here's a prominent Shia Islamist's (http://www.leader.ir/langs/en/).

Here's some major Shia (http://amontazeri.com/farsi/f1.asp)reformists (http://www.saanei.org/index.php?lang=en).

[Zack]

I didn't mean the site in general just the guy they asked in their "Ask a Shia" series of posts. Also I am not saying it is representative just that it would be disturbing if it were.

[slapout9]

Tequila, who's got the US Bonds?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfWbgDu3vLg

[Van]

And the topic of Masonry is completely absurd. I am a Mason... Nothing there about a "New World Order".

But that's exactly what They want us to think!

<dons tin foil hat and sits in corner trembling at keyboard>
:D

Within the Catholic Church, you have a multitude of opinions and interpretations, despite having (doctrinally) a single, definative authority; the Pope.
Even limiting the discussion to Shi'a, there is no definative authority, and the culture appears to value divisive and contrarian behavior. Any site claiming Shi'a religious authority doesn't impress me much, anymore.

[slapout9]

Here is a good update on the Federal Reseve "The Black Hole of Democracy"


http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=3994&updaterx=2009-07-10+12%3A27%3A24

[slapout9]

The Great Cheese Conspiracy. It's not really cheese:eek:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiZ9SDMmzkg&feature=sub

[slapout9]

Series of clips from the Movie Collapse. Mike Ruppert was a former LAPD detective turned Investigative Journalist.

http://www.youtube.com/user/CollapseMovie#p/c/3F4ACCD1B64AF177

[omarali50]

check this out:

http://www.rawilson.com/undercontrol.html

Robert Anton Wilson (my he rest in peace).

[slapout9]

check this out:

http://www.rawilson.com/undercontrol.html

Robert Anton Wilson (my he rest in peace).

I did check it out....... James Angleton head of CIA Counter-Intelligence killed President Kennedy.......hadn't heard that one before:rolleyes:

[bourbon]

I did check it out....... James Angleton head of CIA Counter-Intelligence killed President Kennedy.......hadn't heard that one before:rolleyes:

I heard Detective Munch on Bill Maher argue the Federal Reserve killed JFK. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCrVDL4J3tM)

Speaking of Federal Reserve assassination conspiracy theories, here’s the next chapter:

Mark Pittman, 52; reporter who foresaw subprime crisis (http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/obituaries/articles/2009/11/28/mark_pittman_52_reporter_who_foresaw_subprime_cris is/), by Bob Ivry. Bloomberg News, November 28, 2009.

Mr. Pittman’s fight to make the Fed more accountable resulted in an Aug. 24 victory in Manhattan Federal Court affirming the public’s right to know about the central bank’s more than $2 trillion in loans to financial firms. Mr. Pittman drew the attention of filmmakers Andrew and Leslie Cockburn, who gave him a prominent role in their documentary about subprime mortgages, “American Casino,’’ which was shown at New York City’s Tribeca Film Festival in May.

“Who sues the Fed? One reporter on the planet,’’ said Emma Moody, a Wall Street Journal editor who worked with Pittman at Bloomberg.

[slapout9]

Jesse Venture premires tonight on his own TV show called.......Conspiracy Theory;). Check your local listings for time and station.



http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread519689/pg1

[M-A Lagrange]

No one knows but my secret objective nb 3 is to be the master of the world.
still have to figure out what nb 1 and 2 could be. Probably too secret for me to know...
Chilling isn't it!:D

[Tom Odom]

No one knows but my secret objective nb 3 is to be the master of the world.
still have to figure out what nb 1 and 2 could be. Probably too secret for me to know...
Chilling isn't it!:D

Sounds like an American politician

[slapout9]

Good conspiracies are getting harder to find now a days they are everywhere, but this is good one. The Taliban are training Monkeys to attack NATO forces in Afghanistan.:eek:



http://www.theatlanticwire.com/features/view/feature/Taliban-Training-Monkey-Soldiers-for-Jihad-1580

[slapout9]

Video of Taliban Monkeys....I think it is Chinese:confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntn3QRn4_Iw

[Rex Brynen]

Good conspiracies are getting harder to find now a days they are everywhere, but this is good one. The Taliban are training Monkeys to attack NATO forces in Afghanistan.:eek:

Being rather fond of the old Bren gun, I'm pleased to see that the monkeys will be using them.

However, I'm not sure how they'll compete with the man-eating badgers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_badger)that the modern British Army is known to deploy in COIN operations.

[slapout9]

Being rather fond of the old Bren gun, I'm pleased to see that the monkeys will be using them.

However, I'm not sure how they'll compete with the man-eating badgers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_badger)that the modern British Army is known to deploy in COIN operations.


I heard the British SAS had recruited Hornswoggle MacMann for the job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA9j15E12jw

[slapout9]

Here it is folks an 8 part series from 1968 on the Grand Design for a World Government. I saw this at a Hunting club back when I was in my teens...now it's on Utube. Most of what is on this thread is funny stuff but this is very serious. As I said this is from 1968 and take a look at how much has come to pass.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7CfJ8wxahA&feature=related

[Pete]

If the Confederacy had won would the CSA today be a member of the UN? :rolleyes:

[AdamG]

You want a good one?
http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2010/11/conspiracy-theories.html

Reading music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8ov-Cbpf4M

[slapout9]

If the Confederacy had won would the CSA today be a member of the UN? :rolleyes:

What do you mean IF we had won:wry:

[slapout9]

You want a good one?
http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2010/11/conspiracy-theories.html



We need to get our own SWC Bobby (davidbfpo) to look into this??

[davidbfpo]

Slap,

You got me, I confess. It had been a hard day at the office, there was this VDU and phone. Called Lord James up and he took the bait.:D

Now back to reality. There are many things happening in the UK that have evaded full media coverage as we ponder 2011 and I just think Lord James has taken as genuine an offer of mega-bucks or pounds by people who prefer standing in the shade. Odd. Perfect "smoke" IMHO.:wry:

Best of all my jurisdiction excludes within "the Met", i.e. London and somehow I doubt "the Met" will even listen, let alone investigate. ;)

[AdamG]

Meet the future King George VII. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros)
Don't worry, his people probably have a genetic link to the House of Hapsburg that'll make it all nice and Kosher.

[slapout9]

It is that time of year again another anniversary of one of Americas most dreadful events. Link to JFK assassination material of a different kind. Lancer was the code name the Secret Service used for JFK.

http://jfklancer.com/

So what is everyones opinion on this, was it or wasn't it a conspiracy.

[bourbon]

So what is everyones opinion on this, was it or wasn't it a conspiracy.
Conspiracy. Conceived and ordered by Santo Trafficante and Carlos Marcello. Coordinated by Sam Giancana and Johnny Roselli - both of whom were murdered after they were subpoenaed to testify before Congress; and the shooters were Cubans involved in previous mob/agency anti-Castro work.

The mob bought the Chicago vote to win JFK the election in 1960 (thanks Papa Joe!), and were rewarded by RFK's aggressive anti-mafia campaign (Marcello was deported).

RFK's assassination, now that's interesting.

[Presley Cannady]

Yeah...I'm still stuck on spricket24's massive talents.

[slapout9]

Yeah...I'm still stuck on spricket24's massive talents.

Did you see her post on Zombies...fantastic stuff!

[91bravojoe]

Not Proven, by design, and stuck there for eternity. When the soap opera watching alcoholics that comprise our Congress embargoed for decades the records in the JFK transfer-of-power-case, they condemned us to never actually knowing.

[slapout9]

Not Proven, by design, and stuck there for eternity. When the soap opera watching alcoholics that comprise our Congress embargoed for decades the records in the JFK transfer-of-power-case, they condemned us to never actually knowing.

I just saw a report that says there are still 51,000 documents to the JFK assassination that have still never been released.:confused:


My personal opinion is Oswald was definitely the shooter and the only shooter but that doesn't mean there wasn't a conspiracy, of course it doesn't mean there was either.

[Fuchs]

Just a thought (and it's probably fitting to this thread):


Should a component of official national defence policy be the defence against inappropriate foreign influence on the government?

A foreign power (be it a government, trade association, multinational corporation) can subvert a government with lobbyism, bribing and disinformation.
The result could be (especially in the case of small and poor nations) a form of indirect rule, at least in regard to certain policies.

Here are two (real world?) examples:

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/03/wikileaks-cables-rev.html

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/16/aipac_on_the_brink_and_not_one_word_in_msm/

I think we all know the 'questionable' effect of multinational corporations on many Third World governments as additional examples.


The National defence policy's purpose is to protect - not only people and property, but also sovereignty. The protection of sovereignty against subversion somehow sounds like a national defence policy task to me.

After all, it's pointless to defend against a foreign army if the foreign power doesn't need its military to take over your country!
(That would be an extreme example of the problem, of course.)

[Tukhachevskii]

I think we all know the 'questionable' effect of multinational corporations on many Third World governments as additional examples.

That's hardly something specific to "third world" countries. The "West" suffers as much if not more subtly. It would also help if "democratic" governments were representative of their citizens rather than foreign interests. The US Congress for instance is more responsive to "special" interest groups (foreign and domestic) than they are to the "greater good" or the "general will". Given that in the US since the sixties there are no longer, broadly speaking, Americans but now (in Arthur Schlesinger's words (http://www.amazon.com/Disuniting-America-Reflections-Multicultural-Enlarged/dp/0393318540/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top)) only hyphenated-Americans ("African", Italian, Arab, Latin, &c) it's unsurprising that they are pandered to and pander (or curry favour) to gain advnatgnes of whatever kind for their "home" countries (AIPAC is an example but NOT thet only one). The UK, or frmer UK government (does the UK still exist?) is going down that slippery slope too with "politics" in the "Westminster village" often trumping or even setting the agenda for parliament instead of what's good for all citizens (although we are now, I am relaibly informed, no longer citizens but consumers!). Fifth-columnists and other foreign nations who claim to be British and thus should obviously prioritise on our own people) now get to sway government opinion. For instance, peddling a "sanitised" Islam (http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/publications/publication.cgi?id=13) in order to creat a favourable political climate and opinion from those supposedly "in the know" so as to affect foreign policy in a way advantageous to foreigners.

G-d! Sounds like a conspiracy.....

[slapout9]

After all, it's pointless to defend against a foreign army if the foreign power doesn't need its military to take over your country!
(That would be an extreme example of the problem, of course.)

I am continually surprised at the number of people who do not understand that.

[slapout9]

Link to interview of the author. I have heard several interviews of this author and she may have finally solved the Rosewell mystery.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUL9LbFbZ_I&feature=related

[Backwards Observer]

Bad news for those hoping to avoid mind-numbing rays.


A group of MIT students decided to test the performance of different tinfoil beanies to see how various designs (the "classical," "fez" and "centurion") interacted with commonly used industrial radio applications. They found that all three designs actually amplified these {[mind control rays](selection under erasure)} radio waves, suggesting that the tinfoil hat meme might be a false-flag operation engineered to trick the wily and suspicious into making it easier to beam messages into their skulls

Tinfoil hats actually amplify mind control beams (http://boingboing.net/2012/10/01/tinfoil-hats-actually-amplify.html) - Boing Boing - 10.1.2012

...


Tinfoil hats actually make it easier for the government to track your thoughts (http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/09/tin-foil-hats-actually-make-it-easier-for-the-government-to-track-your-thoughts/262998/) - The Atlantic - 9.28.2012.

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AFDB (Aluminium Foil Deflector Beanie) Effectiveness (http://zapatopi.net/blog/?post=200511112730.afdb_effectiveness) - ZPi/Blog - 11.11.2005

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Unrelated bonus Slap content:

Persol 714 Sunglasses (http://boingboing.net/2012/10/02/persol-714-sunglasses.html) - Boing Boing - 10.2.2012.

[slapout9]

Link to the recent comments and the big bomb shell by RFK jr.on the JFK assassination. The big bomb shell is RFK sr. investigators supposedly had acquired telephone records between OSWALD and JACK RUBY!!!! If these turn out to be true this is some serious stuff.

http://www.dallasnews.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/headlines/20130114-robert-f.-kennedy-jr.-creates-a-story-with-legs-by-offering-pro-conspiracy-views-on-his-uncles-1963-assassination-in-dealey-plaza.ece

[Surferbeetle]

:D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2e/TXF_Unusual_Suspects.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_X-Files