View Full Version : SWJ is Hot? Yep. So Says Rolling Stone...
SWJED
05-29-2009, 12:45 AM
What do Lady Gaga and Small Wars Journal have in common? One is on the cover of the Rolling Stone and one isn’t – but sure enough both made the Rolling Stone 2009 “Hot List” (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/28455332/the_rolling_stone_2009_hot_list) – go figure.
Stocks may tumble and fortunes may fall, but hotness, it seems, is eternal.
There was some concern about compiling our latest Rolling Stone Hot List during an ice-cold era. But it seems that in these uncertain, gray days, we need what our Managing Editor Will Dana called "the sparkly and the sexy, the perfectly shaped diversions America leads the world in creating."
... Since we launched the Hot List in 1986, we've had our share of hits and misses (check our cover gallery to revisit all out past Hot Issues, from Angelina to Giselle to Britney). In 1988, we profiled "Hot Character Actor" Kevin Spacey, and we're particularly proud that in 1990, we introduced readers to a 23-year-old screenwriter named Jeffrey Abrams (you might know him now as Lost and Star Trek visionary J.J. Abrams). Of course, we've also missed the mark — in 1990, we thought Renny Harlin's hot streak would last, and the same issue that featured Abrams also declared Tevin Campbell "Hot Prodigy."
This time, we're banking on an assortment of movers, shakers and muckrakers that runs the gamut from the warfare digest "Small Wars Journal" to Hot Issue cover girl Lady Gaga…
Rolling Stone’s 2009 Hot List (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/28455332/the_rolling_stone_2009_hot_list) - as soon as we grab a hard copy of RS we'll post the SWJ entry - anyone seen it yet and care to share below? This issue has not hit the news stands as yet.
William F. Owen
05-29-2009, 05:05 AM
So does that mean we, the community are hot?
I know the Post modern COIN avant-garde want to be "hot" as any group pushing an agenda does, but I no longer see them here on SWJ?
What I see, and why I am still here 2 years later, is a mostly a bunch of hard nosed pragmatists, pretty un-interested in silly "new war" ideas or much of the silly language that goes with it.
In fact, I am far from the only Clausewitian here and you don't get less "hot" than CvC.
Happy being "cool" though. :D
slapout9
05-29-2009, 05:08 AM
Wilf, it was the Conspiracy thread that did it....nobody noticed us before:D:D:D
SWJED
05-29-2009, 05:30 AM
So does that mean we, the community are hot?
... Happy being "cool" though. :D
Of course "we" - as I said - go figure :wry:.
Tom Odom
05-29-2009, 05:48 AM
So is Lady Gaga gonna join SWJ? Maybe host a non-virtual? :D
Maybe a centerfold in the Journal? :cool:
Old Eagle
05-29-2009, 12:28 PM
First, I'm TIME's Person of the Year (The American Solsier) and now I make RS's Hot List. Gonna really round out my otherwise pedantic resume!:D
Old Eagle
05-29-2009, 12:29 PM
Wonder if we can "get our picture on the cover of the Rolling Stone"!
OK so most of you are to young to remember that.
Tom Odom
05-29-2009, 12:31 PM
Wonder if we can "get our picture on the cover of the Rolling Stone"!
OK so most of you are to young to remember that.
Oh wow man...Rock and Roll!
Well we are big rock singers, we've got golden fingers
And we're loved everywhere we go
We sing about beauty and we sing about truth
At ten thousand dollars a show
We take all kind of pills to give us all kind of thrills
But the thrill we've never known
Is the thrill that'll get you when you get your picture
On the cover of the Rolling Stone
I've got a freaky old lady name o' Cocaine Katy
Who embroiders on my jeans
I've got my poor old gray-haired Daddy
Drivin' my limousine
Now it's all designed to blow our minds
But our minds won't really be blown
Like the blow that'll get you when you get your picture
On the cover of the Rolling Stone
{Refrain}
We got a lot of little teenage blue-eyed groupies
Who do anything we say
We got a genuine Indian guru
He's teachin' us a better way
We got all the friends that money can buy
So we never have to be alone
And we keep gettin' richer but we can't get our picture
On the cover of the Rolling Stone
{Refrain}
Rolling Stone
Wanna see my picture on the cover
Rolling Stone
Wanna buy five copies for my mother
Rolling Stone
Wanna see my smilin' face
On the cover of the Rolling Stone
Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show
John T. Fishel
05-29-2009, 12:35 PM
I didn't realize that I (we) was/were so "hot"/"cool".:cool:
Cheers
JohnT
J Wolfsberger
05-29-2009, 12:43 PM
First, I'm TIME's Person of the Year (The American Solsier) and now I make RS's Hot List. Gonna really round out my otherwise pedantic resume!:D
A little guidance here. Exactly how to we enter this on our resumes? :confused:
slapout9
05-29-2009, 01:50 PM
As Ken says for you young'ins Dr. Hook...Cover Of The Rolling Stone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ux3-a9RE1Q
George L. Singleton
05-29-2009, 02:23 PM
The Scottish Poet Robert (Bobby) Burns said it in plain simple English: "It takes no brains, no genius to criticize."
"Pedants will be able to cite exceptions, and thus undermine useful (insightful) theory. Their depredations must be firmly resisted by one simple test: does the theory generally aid understanding of useful military problems? If so, then exceptions are permissible."
J.P. Storr “Human Aspects of Command”
William F. Owen
05-29-2009, 02:34 PM
The Scottish Poet Robert (Bobby) Burns said it in plain simple English: "It takes no brains, no genius to criticize."
"Pedants will be able to cite exceptions, and thus undermine useful (insightful) theory. Their depredations must be firmly resisted by one simple test: does the theory generally aid understanding of useful military problems? If so, then exceptions are permissible."
J.P. Storr “Human Aspects of Command”
OK. You have my attention. What are you trying to say?
Rank amateur
05-29-2009, 02:57 PM
Should've banned amateurs when you had a chance. Now you're going to be owerrun with riff raff.
On a serious note, the most intelligent conversation on the net happens here.
Umar Al-Mokhtār
05-29-2009, 02:57 PM
Wilf that's even better than "pop-centric COIN"! I can even picture a few of them sitting at a cafe wearing jaunty berets, sipping Absinthe and Pernod, and drawing on their delicately held Gauloises. ;)
Where did they go? Well, having stepped off into the limelight to now revel in their new pop stardome they seem to have left we of the pragmatic and weathered hoi-polloi to continue to march on.
Tom Odom
05-29-2009, 03:16 PM
Wilf that's even better than "pop-centric COIN"! I can even picture a few of them sitting at a cafe wearing jaunty berets, sipping Absinthe and Pernod, and drawing on their delicately held Gauloises. ;)
Don't forget the safety belts, gotta have the safety belts :wry:
Umar Al-Mokhtār
05-29-2009, 03:20 PM
I love it!
slapout9
05-29-2009, 03:21 PM
Speaking of COINS the contest I won for the SWC coin motto...how many years ago??? Boots on the ground...Eyes on the People.....Mind on the Mission;)
Where is the COIN?? that is what should be on the cover of RS.
MattC86
05-29-2009, 03:24 PM
A little guidance here. Exactly how to we enter this on our resumes? :confused:
One of my idiot friends put "Time's Person of the Year" under Awards and Distinctions, because Time's Person of the Year a couple years ago was "You" (Facebook, YouTube, etc.)
So a bunch of y'all can say you were person of the year TWICE and now are on RS' Hot List!
Matt
William F. Owen
05-29-2009, 03:25 PM
Wilf that's even better than "pop-centric COIN"! I can even picture a few of them sitting at a cafe wearing jaunty berets, sipping Absinthe and Pernod, and drawing on their delicately held Gauloises. ;)
Where did they go? Well, having stepped off into the limelight to now revel in their new pop stardome they seem to have left we of the pragmatic and weathered hoi-polloi to continue to march on.
I'm not sure they ever existed or went anywhere! They might still be here! Some dinosaurs became birds. They mostly come at night... mostly
The men who made the US Army understand that war is not just formation level combat operations, against other formations, deserve praise and credit. They are cool.
The "War is changing" and "Clausewitz doesn't apply any more" are the folks I worry about.
Steve Blair
05-29-2009, 03:28 PM
we still have to compete with this (http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/gallery/28419077/daisy_lowe_up_close_with_the_mode). And I, for one, ain't gonna even attempt it.
However, this (http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/gallery/28376545/the_2009_hot_list_the_rockers_mo/photo/9) could be something of an "in action" shot for the wild kingdom portion of the council....
JMG1093
05-29-2009, 05:13 PM
It appears as a column on the right side of page 85 with a pic of Somali Pirates.
Hot Intelligence: 'Small Wars Journal'
The Military's New Must Read
Want to know how Obama is going to fight the war in Afghanistan? Then check out Small Wars Journal, an online magazine that provides a crash course on asymmetric warfare. Get schooled in fighting Somali pirates. Find out what Malcolm Nance, a former Navy interrogation instructor, thinks about waterboarding ("a torture technique, Period"). When David Kilcullen, special adviser to Gen. Petraeus, live-blogged the Iraq surge, he did it for SWJ.
Contributions include who's who of the sharpest minds in uniform, regardless of rank. "You're judged purely on the strength of your intellectual argument," says John Nagl, a retired lieutenant colonel who helped write the Army's Counterinsurgency Field Manual. Run by two former Marines, the site is a must-read for military insiders. "We must be doing something right," says co-founder Dave Dilegge, "because we get people calling us Attila the Hun warmongers one day and counterinsurgency-loving tree-huggers the next."
Hacksaw
05-29-2009, 05:52 PM
what happened to the photo shoot of Ken and Tom in the speedos??:D
Steve Blair
05-29-2009, 05:58 PM
what happened to the photo shoot of Ken and Tom in the speedos??:D
I think they were either banned or confiscated....:D
Uboat509
05-29-2009, 06:08 PM
what happened to the photo shoot of Ken and Tom in the speedos??:D
I believe that they were banned under a number of non-proliferation treaties.
SFC W
Hacksaw
05-29-2009, 06:22 PM
Just more examples of the "MAN" trying to keep Ken and Tom down
SWJED
05-29-2009, 06:30 PM
It appears as a column on the right side of page 85 with a pic of Somali Pirates.
Hot Intelligence: 'Small Wars Journal'
The Military's New Must Read
Want to know how Obama is going to fight the war in Afghanistan? Then check out Small Wars Journal, an online magazine that provides a crash course on asymmetric warfare. Get schooled in fighting Somali pirates. Find out what Malcolm Nance, a former Navy interrogation instructor, thinks about waterboarding ("a torture technique, Period"). When David Kilcullen, special adviser to Gen. Petraeus, live-blogged the Iraq surge, he did it for SWJ.
Contributions include who's who of the sharpest minds in uniform, regardless of rank. "You're judged purely on the strength of your intellectual argument," says John Nagl, a retired lieutenant colonel who helped write the Army's Counterinsurgency Field Manual. Run by two former Marines, the site is a must-read for military insiders. "We must be doing something right," says co-founder Dave Dilegge, "because we get people calling us Attila the Hun warmongers one day and counterinsurgency-loving tree-huggers the next."
Thanks JMG - I was wondering what was said...
Ken White
05-29-2009, 07:00 PM
I believe that they were banned under a number of non-proliferation treaties.Something about containment being inadequate. Sounded like discrimination to me but Tom said to just drop it so I did and they yanked the pics...
How was I to know what he meant...
SWCAdmin
05-29-2009, 07:54 PM
Phil Spector jailed for 19 years (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8074685.stm).
Not sure about this new crowd we're running with. :o
marct
05-29-2009, 08:19 PM
Something about containment being inadequate. Sounded like discrimination to me but Tom said to just drop it so I did and they yanked the pics...
You mean that's NOT Tom on the right :eek::D
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/3/3/4/6/28376433-28376434-large.jpg
Culpeper
05-30-2009, 04:27 AM
Excellent
Ken White
05-30-2009, 04:50 AM
You mean that's NOT Tom on the right :eek::D
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/3/3/4/6/28376433-28376434-large.jpgthe beaver? :D
Beelzebubalicious
05-30-2009, 06:04 AM
Ouch. The next thing will be Matt Lauer breaking the news about this hot new forum...and then SWC will be overrun with knuckleheads. Might as well start a new category for the Mall Ninjas...
By the way, I consider myself fairly intelligent, but I can't understand half of what Marc T writes. Does everyone else understand him or am I just dumb?
William F. Owen
05-30-2009, 06:26 AM
Ouch. The next thing will be Matt Lauer breaking the news about this hot new forum...and then SWC will be overrun with knuckleheads. Might as well start a new category for the Mall Ninjas...
Hey, it's how I got here!
By the way, I consider myself fairly intelligent, but I can't understand half of what Marc T writes. Does everyone else understand him or am I just dumb?
Damn man! Stop rocking the boat. I don't understand 50% of what I write and I don't think anyone else does either.
Umar Al-Mokhtār
05-30-2009, 10:39 PM
don't be so hard on the Beaver! :D
marct
05-31-2009, 05:25 PM
Ouch. The next thing will be Matt Lauer breaking the news about this hot new forum...and then SWC will be overrun with knuckleheads. Might as well start a new category for the Mall Ninjas...
I thought we had a thread for them already (http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/showthread.php?t=375)?
By the way, I consider myself fairly intelligent, but I can't understand half of what Marc T writes. Does everyone else understand him or am I just dumb?
Well, I'd guess I understand about 60% of what I write ;). BTW, from what Rob (and my wife :eek:!) say, it's much worse in person :D!
M Davis
05-31-2009, 06:19 PM
Ouch. The next thing will be Matt Lauer breaking the news about this hot new forum...and then SWC will be overrun with knuckleheads. Might as well start a new category for the Mall Ninjas...
As one of the new knuckleheads, I was wondering this myself. This is one of the few military-related forums I've found that didn't routinely devolve into "back in my day crabby crabby crabby" and "how can i get out of my contract..." I wonder how this place will weather the coming storm of "oh hay guys, I liek COIN too!"
Old Eagle
05-31-2009, 06:24 PM
To date, we owe our professionalism to Dave, Bill and the moderators. So no, we're not "edgy", like some blogs. Contrary to some accusations, we do have some readers younger than 40, although I'm not one of them.
Keep up the good work, guys.
jmm99
05-31-2009, 06:35 PM
from marct
Well, I'd guess I understand about 60% of what I write. BTW, from what Rob (and my wife !) say, it's much worse in person.
and now I have an explanation (subject to confirmation through intense historical research accompanied by pallets of high-test beer) for the outcome at the Windmill.
Your ancestor was designated PsyOps officer (with a voice of 10, nay 100 men) - and made his pitch to the Languedoc grenadiers. Not only did they not understand a word he said, his presentation put the rest of Murray's Highlanders to sleep. And, the rest is history as they say. :D
marct
05-31-2009, 07:12 PM
Your ancestor was designated PsyOps officer (with a voice of 10, nay 100 men) - and made his pitch to the Languedoc grenadiers. Not only did they not understand a word he said, his presentation put the rest of Murray's Highlanders to sleep. And, the rest is history as they say. :D
Ah yes, that's when we (as a family) gave up the direct action (http://www.new-forest-national-park.com/rufus-stone.html) business :D! Now, I will have to note that the Murray Highlanders were under strict orders to put cotton wool in their ears before the assault, however... :cool:
Ken White
05-31-2009, 07:30 PM
Highlanders, that is, re: The Murray Highlanders, it has been said to me that the cotton is likely overflow or outflow from the cranial cavity.
I didn't understand that but my Sassenach wife often says things I don't understand.. :eek: :confused:
jmm99
05-31-2009, 08:22 PM
1. The Highlanders' ears were blocked - so they couldn't hear orders; and
2. They couldn't shoot straight (e.g. genetic input from Walter Tyrrell )
But, keep right on digging -- China is only a short distance to go.
On that day,
a mill in the pays,
Languedoc was hot,
Highlanders were not.
------------------------
Further Genealogical Notes on the Tyrrell-Terrell Family of Virginia (760kb), which is here (http://books.google.com/books?id=AVETAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=Walter+Tyrrell+genealogy&source=bl&ots=TQGMY1sSwP&sig=VoQzIIED5jk9xRxNIuABK5-CWgA&hl=en&ei=3d4iSoeECY3cM__N2aUJ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#PPA1,M1).
What's more, the more I research this in dusty tomes (http://books.google.com/books?id=THwOAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA4-PA31&lpg=RA4-PA31&dq=windmill+highlanders+grenadiers&source=bl&ots=f_Xy5jNesM&sig=baPC6fNx3xuwUKoiTYlktO7YP8Y&hl=en&ei=A-QiSsS3PJLAM66ypbQJ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1), the odder things develop:
A carious hand to hand fight between the Highlanders and French Grenadiers took place on the 28th April, 1760, at Dumont's Mill, on the site adjoining Mr. Dunscomb's house, on the St. Foye Road.
"With this old windmill is associated one of the most thrilling episodes of the conflict. Some of the French Grenadiers and some of Fraser's Highlanders took, lost and re-took the Mill three times, their respective officers looking on in mute astonishment and admiration; whilst a Scotch piper, who had been under arrest for bad conduct, ever since the 13th Sept., 1759, was piping away within hearing ;—so says an old Chronicle— (Maple Leaves, 1873, p. 182)." [emphasis in original].
What - the worst sin of a Scottish regiment - to put wool in ears - and block out the sound of the regiment's piper. No wonder you lost after the third replay.
Ken White
05-31-2009, 08:51 PM
What - the worst sin of a Scottish regiment - to put wool in ears - and block out the sound of the regiment's piper. No wonder you lost after the third replay.Served 'em right. Yon Frazer's ae bollocks everythin'
BayonetBrant
06-01-2009, 12:54 PM
Contrary to some accusations, we do have some readers younger than 40
well... I'm one of them, but 40's getting closer every year, darnit... :o
Umar Al-Mokhtār
06-02-2009, 04:00 PM
As Rolling Stone said "an assortment of movers, shakers and muckrakers" I'm wondering where the editoral staff placed SWJ of those three.
Maybe the answer lies with Steve Miller:
Some people call me the COIN cowboy, yeah
Some call me the guerilla of blog
Some people call me Dave D…
Cause I speak, of the positives of grog.
People talk about me, baby
Say I'm doin' it wrong, doin' it wrong
Well, don't you worry baby, don't worry
Cause I'm bloggin, bloggin, bloggin,
right here at home
Cause I'm a rebel
I’m insurgent
I’m a blogger
And a COINdinista
I run the Journal just for fun
I'm a mover
I'm a shaker
I'm a keen muckraker
Rolling Stone says I’m the one. Wooo Woooo :D
Old Eagle
06-02-2009, 05:07 PM
Awesome!
or whatever the current terminology is.
SWJED
06-03-2009, 01:29 AM
Too much Umar Al-Mokhtār :cool:
Umar Al-Mokhtār
06-03-2009, 02:02 PM
I just seem to have skill sets that are both irrelevant and irreverent… :D
Ken White
06-03-2009, 04:44 PM
I say...:D
Umar Al-Mokhtār
06-03-2009, 06:58 PM
but also Dave, you can never have too much Umar Al-Mokhtār!
"I put the "grrrr" in swinger, baby! Yeah!" :p
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