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07-05-2006, 12:27 PM
5 July USA Today - Iraq Considers Arming Insurgents (http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20060705/1a_lede05.art.htm) by Rick Jervis.

Iraq's government is studying a request from some local insurgent leaders to supply them with weapons so they can turn on the heavily armed foreign fighters who were once their allies, according to two Iraqi lawmakers.

Leaders claiming to represent about 11 insurgent groups asked for weapons to fight foreign al-Qaeda elements in Iraq, said Haider al-Ibadi, a Shiite lawmaker and member of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's Dawa Party.

“They want to take part in the war against terrorists,” said al-Ibadi, who supports the proposal. “They claim they could wipe out the terrorists and work with the government.”

The insurgent request was confirmed by al-Ibadi and Mithal al-Alusi, another lawmaker. Al-Maliki was out of the country, and several officials in his office declined to comment.

The request came out of talks between people claiming to represent insurgent groups and the Iraqi government.

The U.S. military said insurgent talks are an Iraqi matter.

Coalition forces would “fully support the broad dialogue for reconciliation” but would not discuss details, military spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Johnson said in an e-mail...

07-05-2006, 01:50 PM
If this doesnt smell like someone trying to re-invent "an enemy of my enemy is my ally" type thinking, nothing will.

07-05-2006, 07:44 PM
If this is legitimate interest on behalf of the "former" insurgents, isn't this a replay of what happened in Bosnia once the war cooled down? The foreign Muslim "freedom" fighters were turned on by the indigenous population once their mission was accomplished. It seems as if people are using militant Muslims as a tool to be discarded once the job is over...

07-06-2006, 04:11 PM


The governor of Pattani wants to offer cash rewards of 50,000-100,000 baht to civilians who kill or injure insurgents in gun fights.

He says rewards would give people an incentive to fight back, but academics and law experts argue it would just encourage more extra-judicial killing.

However, caretaker Justice Minister Chidchai Wannasathit and army chief Sonthi Boonyaratglin appeared to second the idea yesterday.

Pattani governor Panu Uthairat said his proposal was a security measure aimed at protecting the lives of innocent people in the province. ''In some cases, people want to retaliate. Some have fired warning shots into the sky. Others clashed with insurgents who were killed or wounded in the process,'' he said.''Some wounded insurgents were caught.

In the past, we handed out 5,000 to 10,000 baht in cash to civilians to boost their morale so they will fight back in self-defence,'' he said.

A source said civilians would be given 50,000 baht each if their return fire hit any insurgents, leading to their capture. The amount would double if the insurgents were killed.

Mr Panu said the authorities could not provide security for people around the clock. People should learn to protect themselves. They should be permitted to carry guns but only use them in self-defence, he said.

Legal experts questioned the Pattani governor's authority to offer a cash reward. Outgoing Bangkok Senator Sak Kosaengruang, formerly president of the Lawyers Council, said the idea was dangerous and unlawful.

If the reward was offered to police, it would lead to extra-judicial killing by unscrupulous officers, he warned.

Mr Sak said the governor should tell people how he had conceived the idea and where he would find the money to pay the rewards.

''What I want to know is whether the Southern Border Peace-building Command is aware of this policy,'' Mr Sak said. The command is in charge of security administration in the deep South.

Pol Gen Chidchai, also a deputy prime minister, downplayed fears a reward-system would give rise to extra-judicial killings. He promised to consider both sides of the proposal.

Gen Sonthi said the reward offer was a strategy by the governor to stimulate people to be extra careful. People should trust the government's judgment in tailoring anti-insurgent strategies to the region.

Two soldiers were shot dead in Yala's Bannang Sata district yesterday. Sgt-Maj Charaewat Khamnoei and Pvt Mongkol Prasuk were ambushed while providing motorcycle escort for teachers. Assailants fired shots at them shortly after a bomb blast.

Caretaker Interior Minister Kongsak Wantana said the government would carefully study all aspects of the National Reconciliation Commission's proposal that the Yawi dialect should be introduced as the second official language in the deep South

What a concept:D

07-09-2006, 03:29 PM
Maybe if I didn’t think Iraq was already in the grey area between order and civil war I might be more inclined to go along with this idea. As it is I tend to think the last Iraq needs is another armed group. The idea makes me think a little about the paramilitaries in Columbia which have not always been so easy for the Columbian government to control.