No argument from me on any of that.
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...Ken, I have been reflecting upon your thesis expressed in this and other threads which I paraphrase here as 'an example had to be made'. I would agree that displaying weakness in the ME leads to greater issues, and because we have shown weakness in the past the seeds of this can be found in 9/11. I feel that energy policy played a significant role in the calculus, but like you I recognize at this point that the reasons are moot, we must win this one and everybody is expendable. What bothers me is the politicization of many positions within government when instead we need the apolitical experts who are mature enough to look beyond short-term gain. A coherent energy policy which allows us to prevent the funding of our enemies is long overdue. We also really need to tighten up our shot-group when it comes to using all elements of national power in order to obtain our objectives.
I've also long said (a) I wouldn't have done it that way (not that I was or will be in a position to do so :D ); and (b) The Admin fouled up in many, many ways once they did decide to do it that way. That early -- and dumb -- politicization by them is IMO directly responsible for much, not all, of the political babble today in opposition. Plenty of egg for a lot of faces in this one.
My sensing is that energy was a part of the rationale but that it was not a major driver -- other than to try to do it with minimal effect on the world oil supply; we really want China to have oil...:wry:
We've got all the classics; major Intel failure; leading to major policy decision flaw; leading to interference with the Combatant Commanders plan; leading to a thrown-out TPFDL; leading to a major political error in an attempt to help Blair -- and then on downhill from there. Immaterial at this time; like you said, we're there.
Army transformation/modularity and COIN
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And while the Army pretends that their BCTs will be all things to all people, I am not yet persuaded by that...
What do you mean by pretend and about what are you not persuaded?
Ken,
That's obviously a larger discussion, but, to simplify, what I had in mind when writing that is that to the best of my understanding the process of army transformation/"modularity" has been initiated to improve the army's conduct of high-tech ("network-centric") conventional warfare, but now it is also being sold as the solution for irregular warfare/COIN. It may be true, but I still wonder whether that's the case.
In particular, I wonder how much civil affairs/state-building expertise you can embed in a full-spectrum BCT (I think that's one of Nagl's arguments for the specialized training corps also), whether the number of BCTs that the army plans on having is large enough to sustain long-term COIN campaigns, and at a more fundemental level I wonder if stability and reconstruction operations really are on that spectrum that people talk about, or are just fundementally different and require an inter-agency centered approach in which something like the PRT would be the main "unit-of-action" and the military as a whole would have a limited role. I am far from having a definitive opinion on this last issue in particular, so I'm sorry if it sounds too vague or doesn't make much sense.
Best,
Ionut
I think the issue is far more complex than you seem
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ipopescu
That's obviously a larger discussion, but, to simplify, what I had in mind when writing that is that to the best of my understanding the process of army transformation/"modularity" has been initiated to improve the army's conduct of high-tech ("network-centric") conventional warfare, but now it is also being sold as the solution for irregular warfare/COIN. It may be true, but I still wonder whether that's the case.
to realize. At the same time, it's more simple than you say. Modularity is by nature a flexible approach to building things, thus, by design, the BCT approach was to allow for flexibility in the construction of force structures to tailor them for specific -- and different types of -- missions. All modules have a basic building block and that of the BCT is the Battalion / Squadron. The design goal is to allow a BCT to exercise command or control of from two to a half dozen Bn/Sqn size units; a way to assist in achieving that flattened control pyramid is the network centric bit -- which applies to any type of war; high or low tech.
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In particular, I wonder how much civil affairs/state-building expertise you can embed in a full-spectrum BCT (I think that's one of Nagl's arguments for the specialized training corps also)...
As much as you want. An Infantry BCT could have its Support Battalion, its Cavalry Sqn (A reconnaissance, sureveillance and target acquisition organization), its two organic or assigned Infantry Bns plus another temporarily attached. To that combat power could be added a Civil Affairs Company, a Military Police company and an Engineer company plus a Detachment from a Military Intelligence Brigade attached to the BCTs organic MI crew. The key thing to recall is that the BCT is the basic combat unit but all those supporting arms and services are being reorganized also to allow such tailoring to a BCT as needed. Obviously, the tailoring differs significantly for COIN ops versus full scale conventional combat (when the Infantry BCT might pick up an entire Artillery Battalion and a Tank Battalion). That's pretty simplistic but that's the essence.
The idea of an Advisory Corps is a non-starter, the Army cannot afford it. It would eat up the senior leadership of three to five BCTs and the rotational aspect would take a couple of more. It also is not necessary. What IS required is a permanent and structured series of courses to train those who get tasked for advisory duty -- and, ideally, an accelerated immersive language course.
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...whether the number of BCTs that the army plans on having is large enough to sustain long-term COIN campaigns, and at a more fundemental level I wonder if stability and reconstruction operations really are on that spectrum that people talk about, or are just fundementally different and require an inter-agency centered approach in which something like the PRT would be the main "unit-of-action" and the military as a whole would have a limited role...
That's way too open ended to address here. The standard 'military' answer is "It depends on the situation." That is NOT a fob-off, it is a very true statement; every war is different; pretty much the only thing they have in common is that somebody's going to get hurt. To fight a war, you have to tailor your effort for THAT war. The Army has been drug, kicking and screaming, objecting mightily to address that long standing shortfall. Whether the Army realizes it or not, it owes Pete Schoomaker a big debt. ;)
I'd also suggest that, after an admittedly slow start, Bush and Rice have drug or are dragging the rest of the Federal government into play and the nation will owe them for that.
Thank you for the detailed answer
Ken,
Your answer on the modularity issue was illuminating.
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That's way too open ended to address here. The standard 'military' answer is "It depends on the situation." That is NOT a fob-off, it is a very true statement; every war is different; pretty much the only thing they have in common is that somebody's going to get hurt. To fight a war, you have to tailor your effort for THAT war. The Army has been drug, kicking and screaming, objecting mightily to address that long standing shortfall. Whether the Army realizes it or not, it owes Pete Schoomaker a big debt.
I'd also suggest that, after an admittedly slow start, Bush and Rice have drug or are dragging the rest of the Federal government into play and the nation will owe them for that.
I fully agree, and I hope some of the efforts for adopting a "whole of government " approach to such missions on the civilian side will be continued by the next administration.
I hope so as well. However,
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ipopescu
...I fully agree, and I hope some of the efforts for adopting a "whole of government " approach to such missions on the civilian side will be continued by the next administration.
the trend for each new Administration to totally disavow the policies and practices of its predecessor, prevalent in all cases, exacerbated if there's a party change, don't bode well.
That may be particularly true if the new Admin believes in catering to the Unions; the AFGE and its clones are very much into turf battles and 'a better life' concerns for their members and are opposed to the government being able to order its employees to do much of anything -- much less go to a combat zone. We'll see.
Canadian Tanks Stomp Taliban
From Wired's Danger Room
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Last summer Dutch heavy artillery helped repel a major Taliban assault in southern Afghanistan. Now a Canadian officer is preaching that tanks -- once thought all but useless in Afghanistan -- are also a great weapon for counter-insurgency fights. Paul McLeary says that Major Tervor Cadieu's article in The Canadian Army Journal is "a full frontal assault against those who don’t think big guns and heavy weapons platforms have much of a place on the asymmetric battlefield":
It is a good article; however, I'm curious as to your rationale
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Excellent article. It's worth a read, especially if you think recruiting more Afghan soldiers is the answer. /// At the very least, we're going to need to recruit a significant number of Afghan tankers and of course, give them tanks.(emphasis and divider slashes added / kw)
for the two statements I placed in bold type?