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11-12-2016
OUTLAW 09

Bill....if you recall a number of my comments pertaining to Trump well before the actual election I was seriously warning of his lies and deceptions and his model that he was pushing which is neo nationalistic built on a healthy dose of racism driven by the KKK and the alt Right ....AND the 270 armed militias.

For concrete proof for what I just said check Trump's very last campaign ad and then count ...yes literally count the number of anti Semitic dog whistles being blared at his followers.....AND YES I use the term fellow travelers very accurately here....

I reside in the land of the living history of a man called Hitler who used a weak and splintered democracy to move his agenda forward USING the same exact dog whistles that Trump and company have used....SO I saw long before many saw in the US just where he was heading and tried to warn.

OUR democracy is a shell of what it use to be....WHY

26.6% of those that voted voted for Clinton
26.4% of those that voted voted for Trump
Actually the Clinton general election votes are still steadily climbing

BUT here is the kicker....over 49% of those that could have DID NOT VOTE

So in effect we now have a minority elected President and a minority splintered Republican Party claiming a MANDATE to rule the majority of the rest of the country.....THAT is a plan that goes over with them like a lead balloon.....look at the term "legitimacy".....and tell me Trump has "legitimacy" to represent the majority of Americans who actually did not vote for him......

We have a minority who voted for Trump trying to turn back the historical clock to a "better time"....WHEN both you and I from a vast amount of experience simply knows that will never work...WHY because we are educated...maybe speak a foreign language ...have travelled this world of ours...have fought and lost close friends in the name of defending this country and on and on......

WHY do you now think we are having the pop up demos across the country as the minority that won the election vote feel robbed....and I predict this movement will both grow and get more radical if in fact Trump follows through....there is actually a great resemblance of the peaceful start of Syrian demos and the reaction of Assad against them we are seeing ever so subtly develop out of this election.

WHAT those Trumpers do not fully understand yet is that their great leader STATED 141 times 141 different comments to them at rallies on 23 different topics......

THINK about that for a moment....WHY did he do that....BECAUSE now he can do what he wants and then claim that is exactly what he stated he was going to do....does one see yet a well planned demagogue hard at work...

WHAT concerns me is the following...

Trump if one has followed him over the years was basically for years a Democrat in belief and statements.....

BUT then suddenly he appears in the birther movement well actually he drove the birther movement only appearing lately to back away from his statements WHICH he really did not...he just wanted black votes...

WHAT I love about social media is the ability to pull back the past and relook at what individuals posted and then did...and there is much on Trump if the US MSM had taken the time to research and fact find.....

CHECK his tweets and statements stating with the 2012 reelection of Obama....especially when he gets on a particular twitter rant....he voiced hatred for the electoral college...hatred for the election process and between the lines he fully indicates that he a full blown racist at heart...BUT that never came up in the US MSM ....

Simply but Trump is a racist...a bigot...a sexual predator who used and abuses his power over women and people and he is at heart a deeply committed con artist who has floated a ponzi scheme called property management....WITH currently 630M USDs of debt that has to be serviced yearly and that debt burden is climbing not sinking...SO will he put his businesses health before the Republic's health if a FP decision damages his personal investments?

IT is a Ponzi scheme when one goes bankrupt six times.....no wonder the US banks have refused to deal with him ...BUT again never fully explored by MSM during the election was it???

NOW we have a new President that evidently very quickly settled a fraud and racketeering federal court case so he would not have to personally testify personally in a court of law arguing up to Thursday that as President elect he did not have "time to testify"....THAT is his "respect for the rule of law" full in your face and the Trumpers who voted for him fully understood that...

NOW we have a new President that instead of truly placing his businesses into a true blind trust which means management by a outside company not picked by him and overseen by a not picked by him law firm WE get his definition of a blind trust...."my family is going to run it".....

NOW convince me his sons and daughter will not utter...speak...write a single word about his businesses inside that blind trust....to him over dinner??

WHAT concerns me far more that his sex problems or his financial problems is his inherent and slowly coming out deep ties to Russian money and oligarchs and yes Putin is a 40B USD oligarch...and Trump is in constant need of cash for his business empire....

WHAT concerns me is that server that was in the Trump Tower which conversed daily to someone in the Alpha Bank in Moscow AND that apparently was ongoing over months....what concerns me is the blatant lie by both his campaign management AND Trump himself TWICE inside four months...."we do not have ties to anything Russian and or Russians"...

The configuration of that server parallels exactly what the Russian SVR does to ensure confidential comms over the internet for their recruited agents and deep covers AND that was alluded to by some very serious internet geeks....

THEN one day after the election Russian officials under approval from Moscow openly crow about their constant ties during the election to Trump..well maybe a little MSM interest and Putin's personal spokesperson wants to fly immediately to NYC...before any other western leader visits him....come on people wake up and smell the roses....

As someone who thoroughly understand Stasi and KGB recruitment tactics find me someone inside the current US IC CI community that does not honestly feel with the track record of Trump in sex.... drugs..soft porn videos... and rock and roll the SVR did not attempt to either directly recruit him and or has compromising material on him....IMHO it is a given....

The Founding Fathers were inherently fearful of the "masses" thus we have the Electoral College that Trump hated in 2012 but loves now....what you say we have a SC...sorry it will be a 5/4 court and evidently a 6/4 right wing court for literally years to come even if the Republicans loss at some point .....you say we have the various splits inside the RP in Congress that will balance...him...We have 38 State Governors controlling 38 Red States with massive gerrymandering programs and some very slick voter suppression programs in place.....BTW all out so called "checks and balances are based on "traditions" not the rule of law if one paid close attention in the HS Civics class.

SO I see no checks and balances as you do...WHICH is exactly what Hitler had going forward in 33...

You say we have the great FBI to keep corruption out of the political marketplace BUT that same RP controlled FBI leaked very badly on Clinton and somehow missed all the proRussian adivsors around Trump...Manafort...Page.... and to a degree Woolsely....who never fired a single person inside the CIA for their failure to detect Ames and then he suddenly quit when there were demands to dig deeper inside the CIA as some stated there were more Ames in play as there always is just as we are seeing now inside the NSA.....

Taken all together....if you...I or anyone else that posted on SWJ had committed over 30 years what Trump has done and proven he has done we would never seen a single security clearance in our lifetimes...

Here is the kicker..if one has been to Moscow and has done business with foreign nationals THAT is reason alone to go far deeper into his history of those travels and contacts AND if there is suspicion on the Adjudicator's part about possible "influence" THAT alone is enough to deny a clearance these days after Snowdon...

As a former strategic debriefer/interrogator with over 17 years of field experience in Europe I learned to pay extreme attention to how someone uses words...the words themselves down to the reflextion in the use of those words....now you fully understand why I was warning on SWJ....

Trump is racist end of story....Trump has been compromised by Russia....and Trump is a ponzi scheme con artist who only cares about himself end of story....

How many Trump voters have seen in their lifetimes the Hitler execution chambers here in Berlin...the mass execution/concentration sites for Jews here in Germany and the Czech Republic and how many have seen the Saddam execution chambers...

I have and I hate them.....I have close Jewish (Israeli/Russian) friends here in Berlin that are telling me they see the second coming...of a new democratically elected by US citizens of a second Hitler....

I have seen the polling of the young German and French (20-35) who by a margin of 2/3rds stated openly Trump is a threat to world peace and world stability...NEVER have I ever seen that before on a US President...yes they laughed about our Cowboy President but in the end they respected him ...BUT this time there is something far different in play....they now basically inside one election results openly distrust the US....

I have never seen a German sitting government basically warn the US to follow the principles of the rule of law and good governance to protect civil and human rights...that coming from Europeans.....
11-12-2016
OUTLAW 09

Bill...this is what I mean those that voted for Trump did not stop to count the number of times he changed his narrative EXACTLY 141 times on 23 topics...THEY HEARD the underlying narrative and took it seriously.....whereas most of the MSM took what he was saying "literally"....not "seriously".....it was the dog whistles that his supporters/followers fully understood.....

In the world of Orwell he wrote a lot about the concept of "doublespeak" in fascism and I am afraid many Americans simply do not understand that concept....
11-12-2016
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11-12-2016
OUTLAW 09

Someone recently asked me to build a number of indicators that could/would indicate Trump is in "bed with Russia" ie under their "influence"...

I was up to five or six.........number SEVEN.......came fast and quick.....

Dizzy with success: Putin spokesman suggests Trump scale back NATO deployments to foster ties w Kremlin. #Baltics
http://bigstory.ap.org/295849a11d584a

IMHO.....hate to be in the current shoes of the "grey beards" in the US CI community.......THIS is a nightmare.....HOW do you reject a security clearance for the President of the US??????

A challenge to any reader here at SWJ who cares about CI....show me I am wrong on my assumptions......

HERE is an additional problem...if someone is in fact rejected from a clearance and or renewal of a clearance and has a good lawyer...they could in effect argue that Trump got his in spite of massive issues and actually win in court....the clearance community is setting a precedence for years to come...and that in the face of the Snowden affair where we know he was recruited by the SVR...
11-12-2016
OUTLAW 09

Perilous beyond words: Russian govt contacts w/Trump campaign is a "monumental story" demands investigating before swearing in...some outsiders seem to know what is happening before the voters of Trump know it....

Breitbart's expanding. Lotsa $$ in selling fear, hate, lies to delegitimize Obama & Clinton. Trump adviser Flynn spreads the same propaganda

While the media licks its wounds & soothes us with kinder gentler Trump, where the hell is the story of Wikileaks & Russia who helped him??
"So we're just going to forget WikiLeaks and Russia helped Trump?"
http://hill.cm/xGlKia5
11-12-2016
OUTLAW 09

Why isn't this thundering thru the news cycle? Why aren't 100s of natl-security reporters all over it??
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...mp-campaign/#… @ESQPolitics

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Maybe it's because I grew up at the tail end of the McCarthy Era and in the heart of the Cold War, and maybe because I spent 13 awful days in 1962 waiting for the missiles to fly, and maybe it's because I believe that, Tsarist or Communist or Kleptocracy, Russia behaves in pretty much the same way, but I honestly believe that this should be the only story dominating the news right now.

At least, I think it warrants as much space in our various media as was devoted to the BREAKING NEWS about what John Podesta had for lunch last year.

Per The Washington Post:
The statement came from Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov, who said in an interview with the state-run Interfax news agency that "there were contacts" with the Trump team. "Obviously, we know most of the people from his entourage," Ryabkov said. "We have just begun to consider ways of building dialogue with the future Donald Trump administration and channels we will be using for those purposes," Ryabkov was quoted as saying. Ryabkov provided no further details, and his remarks drew a swift denial from Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks, who said the campaign had "no contact with Russian officials" before Tuesday's election.

Why in Christ's sweet name isn't this thundering through the news cycle right now? Why aren't hundreds of national-security reporters all over it? We have elected a guy who may well have traded what little integrity he has to a vicious autocrat and his thieves-in-law.

(Note to anyone who takes exception: This is not "red-baiting" because these crooks are not Red.) We know he can't get a loan from most American banks, so he has to go overseas for a lot of his financing. What banks is he tied into, and are any of those banks tied into the Russian government? Whom does he owe and how much does he owe them? And how do they plan to collect?

This is a monumental story, and it deserves a full airing before we swear this guy in. And it's only part of the unprecedented tangle of shadowy business dealings that will follow him into office. The president-elect also is the defendant in 75 different lawsuits of assorted kinds. He plans to put his assets into a "blind trust" that will be overseen by…his children. I know a lot of people are charmed by his reluctance to abide by traditional political norms and customs, but this is far beyond that. This is a guy toting a huge amount of baggage into the Oval Office and each piece of it contains a ticking time-bomb.

The Russian business is perilous beyond words. But you can sense even now that our Fourth Estate is pushing it ever so gently in the direction of the same memory hole down which went Nixon's treasonous behavior as regards the Paris Peace Talks and the possibility that the Reagan campaign monkeywrenched the release of the hostages in Iran in 1980. The way this works is that the elite political media decides something is so unthinkable that the children—that's the rest of us—are too delicate to handle it.
Well, kids, the unthinkable already has happened. You might as well cover it as fully as possible
11-12-2016
OUTLAW 09

Democracy, complacency, Trumpistan: The Unthinkable Becomes Normal, Authoritarian GOP won't stop it http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...are-di#…

America is not Ukraine, tho Putin's working on it: "Eerie Parallels Between US Election And Downfall of Ukraine"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregsate.../#1f30742003ce

For Putin, Trump is not an end in himself but a means to weaken the US and the#West
http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/11/1...and-the-west/#
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11-12-2016
OUTLAW 09

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Originally Posted by Bill Moore

I agree with you on this one, another thread taken over by a hundred meaningless twitter posts, and no space allowed for debate. While he challenged you to respond to his excessive number of posts, he hasn't responded to the criticism of Clinton. This thread is almost effectively dead.

Love it when people fail to remember the endless and countless so called investigations that were to reveal just how corrupt the Clintons were and are suppose to be.....DO I seriously need to repeat all of them in a very long list to readers such as Bill and Slapout...since the 90s...WHAT is that 20 or so odd years an still counting....AND over what 14 different investigations.....

AND remember their close personal friend who was an advisor who committed suicide....do I need to respinn what was spun by the Republicans for three long years when the DC Police had long before declared it a suicide due to personal reasons....AND lo an behold it came up again via Trump and company.....

Some complain that Bill got a massive speakers fee in the 100s of thousands of dollars...BUT WAIT it went into the Foundation and was IRS declared and taxed as earned income....BUT WHEN all politicians and ex Presidents hit the speakers and lobbyist circuit earning also hundreds of thousands of dollars WE declare BUT hey they earned it....BUT WAIT do we question currently the outside earnings of our own House Reps and Senators..THAT occur every single day of the year........NO...

BUT at the end of the day AFTER all those countless and endless investigations driven primarily by Republicans WHERE any charges ever filed against either of them......

Oh...and that Whitewater land deal mess the Republicans screamed about for years.....never a single charge and in the end it actually had been handled correctly.....confirmed if one took the time to read the IRS findings to be completely and truly "legal"....

Oh......and that so called pay for play accusations against Clinton for the Clinton Foundation donations in exchange for favors by the then DoS Clinton....AND pounded by Trump in each of his rallies as "that corruption swamp of the Clintons...hang her...arrest her...throw her in jail".....

WILL highly recommend you both go back to the WikiLeaks email dumps which actually when one excludes the fake Russian placed emails CLEARLY states she definitely separated office and play......BUT hey you both overlooked that tad bit of information in all the WikiLeaks chatter.

BTW...this is the same WikiLeaks that we now know was feed those hacked emails by the Russian state sponsored hacking groups...AND we know that the Russian propaganda media released a statement that Wikileaks released BUT TWO DAYS before Wikileaks released the same exact press release...strange is it not that the Russian government could read the computer of WikiLeaks and knew in advance what was to be released word for word....

Nothing like actually ignoring WikiLeaks inadvertently supporting Clinton with in those emails....

HER use of a private email server...WELL three other DoS's in the last 30 years DID the same exact thing.....BUT that never seemed to get through the chatter...

AND THOSE TWO MILLION emails deleted from all of the Bush computers WHERE NOT A VIOLATION of federal law...AND not pursued by the incoming Obama........AND those 4000 Trump company emails deleted THAT the federal court told Trump to not delete as they were evidence in a fraud case...one should never thrown stones at a glass house as they can come back at you....NOTICE Trump was not called "a scheming crook trying to hide damming evidence from a federal court" was he?
Come on guys we complained about Bill's sexual adventures in the WH BUT YET WHEN we have the next President claiming he grabs women by their "pu...ies" WE declare that what "locker room talk" ....but consenting sexual encounters between two adults we seem to have problems with these days VS sexual assaults as defined by law by the now new President....

WHEN 12 and still counting women over a period of 20 years come forward and state he treated them exactly as his videos indicates...we call them lairs and Trump wants to sue them.....WHEN he comes into the WH with 72 pending state and federal court cases we call him a great businessman....WHEN he has had a total of SIX bankruptcies and has to service monthly a debt load of 650M USDs we call him a REALLY GREAT businessman.....

WHEN a sitting Republican Representative cheers the fact he got the security funding for the Benghzi Consulate cut months before the attack as a sign of Republican success against the then DoS Clinton and then later American personnel get killed...."IT was the fault of that corrupt Clinton".....AND WE ignore the Reps comments and actions that contributed directly to their deaths....AND we ignore DoD held back a DELTA team that was waiting on the tarmac because DoD could not get their act in order to respond to the WH.......

WHEN you critique me be ready to respond to facts line by line....

SO when we accept in the realm of public debate statements by the now new President ..."she is a crook...needs to be in jail...I will jail her when I take over...she sold out the DoS for money....."

We are suppose to what accept that as the new standard of political discourse....????

I chose a new nationality simply because I feel that both Trump and the current Republican Party no longer represent the values that I felt for years the US represented and with my wounds and spilled blood for this country in 18 long months of pure combat and in serving in two other wars I have long ago earned the right to be critical...far more critical than say a Slapout that accepts what he apparently "hears" to be the gospel and truth...

BTW Slapout I was not a supporter of the VN far from it but when my country asked me...well maybe ordered me to VN.....I went and did my best and lost a lot of close friends along the way.....which you have never experienced.

So I have the inherent right to critisize when I think the US is headed the wrong way....

Slapout and Bill...the floor is open for debate....now prove me wrong...

Listening......

BTW....here is the inherent kicker now...IF you really look at the email issue with Clinton....WHEN you are in public service even as a First Lady you are inherently open to FOIA requests...and both Clintons have been literally hounded by FOIAs for 20 years....BUT a private personal server does not fall under FOIA....

NOW that Trump is a government paid employee HE is fully liable now to fulfill ALL FOIAs coming into his office....there are hundreds now lining up to file FOIAs on every single aspect of his business and personal life....he will shortly learn what the Clintons have felt like living under FOIA.

QUESTION is...is that private server sitting in his Trump Tower used for months for direct conversation with someone in the Russian Alpha Bank located in the heart of Moscow going to be declared "private"...BTW the server was scrubbed clean and reconfigured after it become known that it was chatting with Russia....

AND this does not worry the both of you...it does me?

BTW...one could argue that Clinton have gotten the same punishment as did General Petraeus who also got caught with classified materials....BIG difference though...Petraeus "parked classified" information in a email draft and parked it in his email draft box for his girlfriend a journalist to log into his account and then read the draft email....that is a deliberate and clear violation of security regs....and the method used to transfer that info was a deliberate attempt to hide that he knew what he was doing....end of story...
11-12-2016
OUTLAW 09

American true democracy hard at work in the strangest of places...sparked by the election of Trump.......

Today over 3000 US citizens....ex pats....US students studying for 300 Euros a semester on four major Berlin Universities to include THREE I met that were studying medicine and three studying international law also at that 300 Euros per semester...so basically free.AND all with 100% healthcare costing 30 Euros a month a student rate.....HS students from the JFK International School.......kids whose parents were working inside the Embassy.......a lot of US business people.... men and women who work in US based international trading and service companies here in Berlin....and a lot of military retirees.....

WHO all voted BTW.....

ALL demonstrating in front of the US Embassy next to the world famous Brandenburger Tor

AGAINST Trump and his views on Europe and the role women play in the US society and the protection of minorities something Germans as a whole feel strongly about since over 20M Germans were refugees at the end of the war and or ethnically cleansed from Poland and the Czech Republic....and yes US citizens also know German history when it comes to refugees....

SO when Trump critiqued Merkel and Germany he hit a super raw nerve with Germans....which did not go down well....even with the common German on the streets
11-12-2016
Dishonesty

Outlaw 09 Please turn off your computer! Go outside!

How many Trump voters have seen in their lifetimes the Hitler execution chambers here in Berlin...the mass execution/concentration sites for Jews here in Germany and the Czech Republic and how many have seen the Saddam execution chambers...

I have and I hate them.....I have close Jewish (Israeli/Russian) friends here in Berlin that are telling me they see the second coming...of a new democratically elected by US citizens of a second Hitler....

Only one problem with 2nd Hitler/Trump
Ivanka Trump was raised Presbyterian BUT CONVERTED TO JUDAISM IN 2009 to marry husband Jared Kushner.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/us-election...ual-first-lady
11-12-2016
OUTLAW 09

Ah......the bromance between the Russian SVR compromised Trump and Putin steadily grows....

NOW we see his FP taking shape rather quickly when it comes to Russia..his support for a genocidal dictator and Iran in Syria .....

Trump to call Putin after his ‘beautiful letter'

SO Trump is in love with the idea that he is supporting his bromance pal Putin and the second bromance dictator Assad.....SO is now Trump stating for the record a US sitting President supports the use of CWs against unarmed civilians???????

Kremlin "regrets" & is "disturbed" by official recognition by the OPCW#Assad under #Putin control used chemical WMD in #Syria http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sy...idUSKBN1361BE#
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11-12-2016
OUTLAW 09

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Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09

Ah......the bromance between the Russian SVR compromised Trump and Putin steadily grows....

NOW we see his FP taking shape rather quickly when it comes to Russia..his support for a genocidal dictator and Iran in Syria .....

Trump to call Putin after his ‘beautiful letter'

AND from the UK Brexit group of supporters...........

"We do not see the need for an additional meeting" - Boris to skip EU FM's dinner discussing Trump win.

Blunderbus move that will rouse high suspicions and shows no understanding of where Paris/Berlin see the election.
11-12-2016
Bill Moore

Assuming half of these are legitimate versus anti Trump propaganda it is a disturbing trend that Trump better speak out against. There is no doubt Trump also attracted a bunch of low lifes with his inexcusable rhetoric in addition to people who just want change. This is worth watching, but I bet many of these incidents were generated by his opposition to create the perception this is a white supremacist movement. If it actually turns into one then I will turn against it. I'm currently in a state of denial.
11-12-2016
OUTLAW 09

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Originally Posted by Bill Moore

Assuming half of these are legitimate versus anti Trump propaganda it is a disturbing trend that Trump better speak out against. There is no doubt Trump also attracted a bunch of low lifes with his inexcusable rhetoric in addition to people who just want change. This is worth watching, but I bet many of these incidents were generated by his opposition to create the perception this is a white supremacist movement. If it actually turns into one then I will turn against it. I'm currently in a state of denial.

Bill..this trend of white supremacist activity has been flying largely under the radar and building over the last years ..the FBI had basically backed away from it "fighting jihadists" was the excuse and "besides they are law abiding US citizens and not hurting anyone"....BUT we have currently 270 armed white militias inside the US....

BTW...REMEMBER we truly never got to the bottom of the Oklahoma City bombing did we....or did two guys simply mix by hand a 5000lb chemical fertilizer IED style bomb ....surely you must still have questions about that attack??????

BUT if you seriously look at the Trump rhetoric the last three months of the campaign with his "Breitbart guru Benon"...the rhetoric took a massive turn to the "alt Right" KKK direction....when he arrived and took over...AND it took a strong anti Semitic turn as well...or did we all "forget the Trump "dustup" when the Jewish Star of David was used in an anti Semitic ad and Trump claimed to have thought it was a "sheriffs badge"..come on ...and his son retweeted five white supremacist and when called out had no idea they were anti Semitic.....

I know this commenter and he has never posted "fakes"...these are real and accurate...BUT here is what we did not notice after Brexit in UK...the exact same hatred broke into the open and hate crimes are climbing as well in UK...

REMEMBER Brexit was also fought using the battle slogans of immigration and globalization...exactly as it was used with Trump....

AND who just walked into the Trump Tower today for a visit...the former leader of UKIP the ulta nationalist group in UK that drove Brexit.....

I confirmed the hate SMS that went out to Black students at Penn..it was real and whoever sent it had the accurate names/cell numbers of all Black students....which means someone accessed their main database....

% of Americans “proud” about election outcome, per Gallup
2008: 67%
2012: 48%
2016: 32%
11-12-2016
Bill Moore

Ok Outlaw, let us now bring some balance into the discussion. The democrats have been caught red handed promoted violent protests in an attempt to get their way. The current violent protests are not condemned by Democratic party leaders, instead they are quietly promoted. Shameful, and much closer to anything Trump has done so far. Many of the dems reject the Constitutional process for change in government, and our President quietly supports this. There have many attacks on Trump supporters since the election, and just as many kill whites comments as the racist attacks you posted. Action equals reaction, and sadly, very sadly our national leaders are promoting this. They're practicing a form of UW against their own country men, because even with MSM on their side they still lost, and they can't accept the result of the election.

Your posts are bias to the extreme. You simply post Twitter comments that reinforce your view, but fail to respond to legitimate challenges with reason. We have a lot in common, and while I found both candidates to be deplorable, yet you only address the perceived faults of one.
11-12-2016
OUTLAW 09

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Originally Posted by Bill Moore

Ok Outlaw, let us now bring some balance into the discussion. The democrats have been caught red handed promoted violent protests in an attempt to get their way. The current violent protests are not condemned by Democratic party leaders, instead they are quietly promoted. Shameful, and much closer to anything Trump has done so far. Many of the dems reject the Constitutional process for change in government, and our President quietly supports this. There have many attacks on Trump supporters since the election, and just as many kill whites comments as the racist attacks you posted. Action equals reaction, and sadly, very sadly our national leaders are promoting this. They're practicing a form of UW against their own country men, because even with MSM on their side they still lost, and they can't accept the result of the election.

Your posts are bias to the extreme. You simply post Twitter comments that reinforce your view, but fail to respond to legitimate challenges with reason. We have a lot in common, and while I found both candidates to be deplorable, yet you only address the perceived faults of one.

I answered the Clinton accusations I feel quite openly and directly previously...secondly the current demonstrations are if one really thinks it through a direct result and responsibility of a single man and his surrogates who pounded away at the racist and anti Semitic messaging for 18 long months....

BUT a side comment Clinton did not win Trump did so he is the center of attention here in this thread that was started...

Thirdly....demonstrating is a US god given right under the rubric of free speech just as are the racists comments by Trump and company....comes with the territory these days...remember Trump would incite during his rallies aggression against the journalists that were covering his rallies and who were just doing their jobs to pay the bills.....who were spit on and sometimes roughed up and or needed security to protect them in order to just the exit rally....BUT did the MSM or general public say anything but burn trash cans and smash a few car windows and the whole world falls apart....one sided do you not think????

For 111 days Trump never held a single press conference..he never allowed press on his plane...he has stated the press lies, are corrupt and he never reads MSM and the WaPo and NYTs should be sued over what they wrote about him as it was all false.......BUT he trusts the heck out of social media and twitter...make sense to you?

Would you though then admit that publicly ridiculing and browbeating journalists verbally into a state of fear is just as bad as those
demonstrating and using violence...I would ????

Remember if you really take the time to look at who is involved you will see a lot of women....WHY is the question...because you had a sexual predator tell them to their faces during public debate he is going to take away the rights women have fought for over the last 30 years starting with Wade v Roe and continuing onto birth control etc......AND he stated in his 2005 video the right to sexually assault women....remember we as men do not walk in their shoes everyday at work...at the gym or when they are out walking alone are we???

If you noticed a number of the racist harassment postings were from women....I could have easily posted another 50 or so ....from all over the country...

BUT WAIT..."that was all just locker room talk".....THAT is not what women in the US experience daily in their lives....

What if you are Latina...you have been declared rapists and murderers....and you are going to be deported.....if you are Muslim you have been declared to be terrorists..if you are black you are a drug dealer....and you do not like to work..AND yet you wonder why they burn trash cans?

Remember this new President insulted a Muslim family whose Muslim son an Army CAPT was killed defending the rights of Trump....and continued to insult them for days via Twitter and yet his wife speaks against cyber bullying...via twitter...make sense to you?

So yes while I do not condone the violence...I can though fully understand why it is occurring...BUT as of yet I see not a solid piece of evidence tying the "Democratic Party" to it....

BTW...it is tradition in Paris and Berlin to burn cars during Christmas and New Year...over 200 cars in both locations both go up in smoke so hey the US has it far easier...believe me and yet the earth still spins around the sun and we all survive.

You are right I am bias because opposite of what Trump did when he received four draft notices that he got out of by using a doctors note stating he had a bone spur...and in a recent interview he could not remember which foot.....I served....

BTW there was a man in my Ft. Polk basic training unit who had been drafted who was a lumberjack from Alabama who had an axe accident prior to being drafted ...the axe had hit his foot leaving a deep scar..which when we did long road marches he would limp all the way and the foot would be bloody when he took off his boot....he tried to get a deferment for the injury multiple times even with doctors surgery notes...but after training he was assigned to the infantry and was killed in VN...leaving a wile and two children behind and his wife received only 10K as the death benefit...and Trump continued to party hard .....fighting off women as he stated....

He served with a bloody foot and limped the whole time he was in training and was killed in VN...WHILE our new President was "deferred FOUR times" for a bone spur he cannot remember which foot it was in ..AND when he was asked about it......he stated..."his war was fighting off the women"......YOU are darn right I am biased....I have earned the right to be biased when I think someone and something is destroying the fabric of US democracy....

YET a sexual predator...a businessman with SIX bankruptcies WHO failed to show us his tax returns BECAUSE we would not understand them whose last wife worked illegally in the US and who we do not know what his ties are to Russia.....AND who will place his businesses into a blind trust run by his sons and daughter WHO definitely will not talk to him about his own businesses TWO full days after telling us publicly he would follow what previous Presidents had done.......will led us into what?????

So those that are currently demonstrating are suppose to "trust" this President who was elected with only 26% of the total voting electorate AFTER what he has said for 18 long months...come on even you can see the dots.....I did and have seen them for 18 long months.....

REMEMBER what I posted at another SWC thread awhile ago..."people love populists until they are elected and in power"....AND presto 2-3 full days into this new administration Trump as flip flopped so badly on virtually all of his major themes no one that supported him really knows what they signed up for...but sign up they did....BUT we do now know one thing..he is definitely in bed with Russia...

ALL we have heard for the last week or so is his surrogates running from interview to interview trying to "interpret for us" WHAT they think Trump really meant when he made public statements at his own rallies....bad really bad....
11-12-2016
OUTLAW 09

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NPR's Beirut correspondent Alice Fordham weighs in on one pressing international issue facing President-elect Trump – the war in Syria

Donald Trump set to ditch Free Syrian Army and side with Assad and Putin instead
http://ind.pn/2fZQiz5

THIS is the perfect example of inexperience trying to act like he is the greatest leader of all times....THIS move will drive 100,000 experienced FSA fighters straight into the arms of JFS (AQ) and IS....WHICH is what Trump appears to not fully have understood...it is exactly what Assad/Putin wants....Assad wants the West to see him as the only viable solution to IS....WHEN there is no FSA...AND Trump is handing it to him on a silver platter....THE core question is WHY?????

WHY is Trump stumbling all over himself to please Putin????

Compromised maybe from his trips to Moscow...SOME in the IC think so.????
11-12-2016
davidbfpo

Nervous in London

The new RUSI Director, Karin von Hippel, a SME from within 'The Beltway', spoke on BBC Radio Four this week and in three minutes gives her viewpoint:https://rusi.org/multimedia/assessin...icy-priorities

Her Deputy, a British defence academic, Malcolm Chalmers, has a longer written commentary and as RUSI is close to Whitehall-Westminster thinking, it appears he is worried. For example:

Quote:

It is too early to predict what Trump will do when he assumes office on 20 January. But it is already incumbent upon the British government to begin some serious thinking on the basis of what he might do.....Third, the Ministry of Defence should begin to review areas in which British conventional capabilities are overly reliant on US support....Questions must now also be asked about the strategic dependency that reliance on US military systems, including US black-box software, is creating, and whether the consequent risks remain acceptable in the new circumstances in which we find ourselves.

Link:https://rusi.org/commentary/preparin...trumpian-world
11-13-2016
Bill Moore

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidbfpo

The new RUSI Director, Karin von Hippel, a SME from within 'The Beltway', spoke on BBC Radio Four this week and in three minutes gives her viewpoint:https://rusi.org/multimedia/assessin...icy-priorities

Her Deputy, a British defence academic, Malcolm Chalmers, has a longer written commentary and as RUSI is close to Whitehall-Westminster thinking, it appears he is worried. For example:
Link:https://rusi.org/commentary/preparin...trumpian-world

Both excellent commentaries, and I suspect the entire world will hold its breath to see what Trump will actually do versus his bombastic rhetoric. England, perhaps more than any other country, is most concerned with Trump's future policies, especially after Brexit. I suppose it is possible he'll create a fissure in the special relationship between England and the U.S., so closer ties with France and Germany would be good hedging options for England.

Other countries are concerned also, if Trump doesn't follow through with the Trans Pacific Partnership trade agreement, that will harm our relationship with many Asian countries, in fact it could kill the rebalance to the Asia-Pacific. At least for the short term, few conditions last forever. However, Clinton also backpedaled during the election and indicated she would also do away with it, so who knows if one is better than the other in that regard.

Will Trump really get closer to Russia? That is one of my bigger concerns, and if he does will it further undermine U.S. credibility around the globe? The terrorist threat is serious, but giving Russia a free hand to pursue their global interests by tossing their military might around to defend thugs is a greater threat longer term.

While the Brits have no idea what Trump will "really" do, you shouldn't feel lonely, we don't either. Let's see who he puts in key positions, and what actions he actually pursues when he gets in office before we start passing judgment.

I suspect he'll do something about illegal immigration, and if he simply tells law enforcement to enforce the current laws (there is a current freeze on in our country to do so via executive order) that should be sufficient. For health care, he needs to revamp the affordable care act with safety caveats, which he has already said he will do. For example, he said he will maintain being able to keep your children on your insurance until they're 25 y/0, and prohibit insurance companies from denying insurance for preexisting conditions. In many ways Trump is more of a democrat than a Republican when you honestly evaluate his positions. This even makes him more unpredictable.

If worse comes to worse and he ends up getting impeached for whatever in the future, at least the Vice President is level headed and respectable.
11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidbfpo

The new RUSI Director, Karin von Hippel, a SME from within 'The Beltway', spoke on BBC Radio Four this week and in three minutes gives her viewpoint:https://rusi.org/multimedia/assessin...icy-priorities

Her Deputy, a British defence academic, Malcolm Chalmers, has a longer written commentary and as RUSI is close to Whitehall-Westminster thinking, it appears he is worried. For example:
Link:https://rusi.org/commentary/preparin...trumpian-world

Interesting a number of reasons..also goes to Bill's comment about the VP...

Everyone here beats me up on over use of twitter BUT I come from the world of open source...open source when done correctly provides 80% of all intel the technical side 20% is largely used to confirm the 80% and for targeting purposes....

Twitter while it appears to be crazy does allow a far more thorough chase of info than does current MSM...TV and talking heads on Sunday...AND this is key all achieved from years past..so you can call up Trump rants from 2012 or 2008 or even back to 2004....AND those YouTube videos the same way and there are now some really good social media open source analysts out there and the number in growing daily and they get more tools to work with....

I did not post it yesterday BUT I stood up and saluted the following info.....

Check all available MSM articles and the tweet confirmed it....a US Professor at a major Us university has a 13 point model he uses ...and not accepted by the pollers....but using his model he correctly predicted Trump winning as earlier as FIVE months ago....and using the model he has correctly called all elections since 1980...

He has now come out and stated Trump will be impeached and or resign within the year and Pence will take over..that would throw the VP position then to the speaker of the house Ryan...he was not sure whether resign do to his business frauds which is my tip or impeachment is my other tip due to his Russian connections....

HERE is the kicker...why he even answered...Trump cannot be controlled ....Pence can....go back and thoroughly review Pence statements..it is like he was the one running for President......

What will Trump do...I am surprised by why many even discuss this...Trump is an ego driven "I" person only concerned about appearances of wealth and money around him...go back and reread all unnamed comments in articles about his inner staff since say eight months....

Here is the craziness around Trump...once he gets an idea he simply stays with that idea...take Syria....he started eight months ago in statements during a rally and in the first two debates...and presto we hear that is what he is doing to the true determent of Europe and the US by driving 100,000 well traine urban warfare moderate for Syria fighters into the arms of JFS and IS...meaning the guerrilla war will continue in Syria for at least another 10-20 years....EVEN if he joins with Assad and Putin...and we the US will take some serious future hits as will Europe for that single move...

Will he formally recognize the Russian annexation of Crimea in his current love affair with Putin..he is seriously trying to figure out just how to....not a question of IF but rather WHEN....

When he slowly decouple from NATO..yes he will using money as the argment ..he already set that in play with his countless comments on it.....

Will he throttle back US NATO exercises...WE saw the Putin spokesman already state that as the minimum for dealing with Putin and he known the ongoing love affair is true....

THIS is the given take him at his word...seriously this guy is surprisingly easy to read...meaning "what you see is what you are getting" end of story.

My more serious concern is the racism he has unleashed inside the US.....which in some ways can be used to crack down heavily and install new security control laws over American right to protest and free speech....ANd his serious love affair with Putin....

Right now I can seriously list SIX major items that in the normal clearance world of say 1975 would have raised immediate red flags with his clearance paperwork and it would have been siting on the DIS Directors desk as a potential "Soviet agent of influence"....and the file would have been handed off to INSCOM......

Even former CIA/NAS Directors tried to quietly raise this same exact reason as a major concern and they did not mince words...they openly called Trump "an agent of influence for Russia"...

I personally have raise similar red flags on three US COLs who were ASA/NSA on actually much less and it cost them their jobs....

BUT here were are years later and it seems no one even cares outside of social media and a few of the top MSM.....those that voted for him never gave it a thought....

I will post those six reasons later today here....

BUT here is the problem.......just how many of those voting for Trump have actually travelled to Russia ie Moscow and who have filled out the visa paperwork that takes several weeks to get approved....think about it..in the age of computers it still takes the Russians several weeks to issue even a tourist visa....WHY because they run their internal database of records and see if the individuals is worth approaching or not....same exact process when I camped my way through the Soviet Union in 1972 and 1973...then it took 30 days to get a tourist visa...

A tiger can never lose it's stripes is an old saying but the KGB and now FSB and it's overseas intel unit SVR and the old Soviet/new Russian military intel GRU......they never even changed the name of GRU.....are some serous tigers when it comes to recruiting Americans....

In 2012/2013 Trump was signaling inside the US he was wanting to run for President and with all the mass media he got in those days...convince me the FSB/SVR and GRU did not know this and were simply waiting and waiting and waiting until the day was right....and that was around his businesses and his well known now private life and a "love of women"....

One thing Americans and Europeans do not realize...FSB/SVR and GRU as some of the worlds greatest "waiters" and have the memory of an elephant...that goes back to the 70s....our services have never been good at "waiting".....

An IMHO Trump has indeed been "compromised" via a "wet operation" which the Soviets and Czechs were really good at in the 70s.....IMHO video footage exists...and Trump knows it...

Again I will post those six items and parallel to them his last known stance on FP issues...ranging from NATO to Ukraine to Syria......

Believe me when I say we have a serious problem...both internally and externally.....

Bill fully knows what the statement "defend the United States against all enemies near and far" means for military and government employees...Trump has never in his life made that verbal statement/commitment....
11-13-2016
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I am back into posting here as I was right where the Trump Syrian policy was going....he has as well as his surrogates stated they want to do joint operations with BOTH Assad a proven genocidal dictator who is currently using CWs and Putin against IS.......

THIS will be one of the biggest blunders from Trump if done for years going forth..he will have been responsible for driving 100,000 armed and experienced urban warfare moderate Syrian FSA fighters into the welcoming arms of JFS (AQ) AND IS as they will have seen that the US has no interest in kicking out Assad and is in a bromance with Putin....

THIS move will certainly ensure fighting in the ME for the next 20 odd years and not to say provoke a response from KSA...Qatar..GCC. and Turkey....NOT LEAST Israel who informed Russian via their PM visit this week Israel will not tolerate Iran inside Syria....as they have Hezbollah on one border already and they do not want Iran on the Golan Heights border...

Dr Shajul Islam @DrShajulIslam
4 #RUSSIAN BUNKER BUSTERS on our hospital just now! Lost underground operating room, £60k equipment, 3 ambulances, medication warehouse!
11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

Slapout and those that voted for Trump...pay close attention to this posting as it sets the stage for a posting on Trumps deep ties to and with Russia..

As an avid supporter of social media from an open source analysis side simply because it covers when one takes the time to vet the commenters far far more than any amount of MSM will get you and the US IC community gets 80% of it's current intel via HUMINT which is really open source.....

Open source can often tell you what is someone thinking/doing/working OR what is behind a specific door because the high tech side cannot provide that sort of info.....

NOW to Trumps infatuation with money....and is it possibly his Achilles heel with Russia and is being potentially exploited by the Russian foreign intelligence service SVR and or the Russian military intelligence service GRU and due to his love of the fast lane even at 70 of sex....drugs....rock and roll.....

IF we take open source comments we will notice in in a Fortune Magazine interview in mid 2000 Trump openly and unabashed stated...."you know if I would run for President I could actually make money".......

Reference Trumps inherent and outspoken racism...he drove the birther movement against Obama from 2008 onwards AND was one of the loudest spokesperson on the birth certificate issue...and his countless racist comments during his rallies never changed in 2016...be it against Latinos...blacks..women...Muslims..and last not but least Jews...when he went anti Semitic

Jump now to 2016 and his outspoken denial to open up his tax returns with the statement you and I to dumb to understand them also voiced by his oldest son.......

WHY would they both state that????

During the last set of rallies Trump kept stating he is spending 100M USDs (although FEC filings only indicated a max of 66M USDs so where is Trump digging out the remaining 34M USDs for himself....of his own money...BUT WAIT...this money has not been donated which all candidates from both parties have always done....THIS money was "loaned with a 6% per cent a compounded monthly twist" SO all his voters basically paid for his own campaign....and no money will flow back to the RNC for future election uses......AND true to the Fortune Mag interview in 2000 HE is making money on the election...

SECONDLY....the last FEC filing indicates that it is possible as the forms were so vaguely filled out deliberately by the way BUT still it indicates that an approximate 12-17M USDs will be flowing and or have flowed to companies directly owned by Trump to cover election expenses like the rooms that he uses in Trump Towers for his HQs where he even TRIPLED the monthly rent ....as per FEC filings.....

NOW take a look at the business empire created by Trump....over 500 companies....and he sits on the boards of most of them...MOST or ALL have something to do licensing of his products and around licensing for golf etc....YES where he has a strong property aspect there he has gone he had SIX bankruptcies and US banks refuse to deal with him since 2006.....forcing Trump into getting debt loans....debt service loans and construction loans from overseas banks....WHICH ones we do not know as he failed to open up his tax returns which would fully indicated who funds him and his operations......

NOW this is where social media kicks back in...for the last three weeks there has been circulating a series of Russian documents that are not fakes as they were issued by an official Russian department complete with seals and telephone numbers of the office which can be double checked for accuracy.....

In that list WHICH is strictly pertaining to Trump it LISTS a total of 249 Russian companies all bearing the name Donald Trump...am betting these are his Russian licensing deals and remember he stated in 2016 that he sits on all the boards of his empire as he earns money for being a board member...I am suspecting the Russian office is their equivalent to what we have at Treasury as to what foreigner owns what inside your country..

THAT list has somehow been totally ignored by US MSM...although the accuracy is easy to check...WHY is that???? ALL company names are there their addresses are there major copartners are listed and what they do is included...

Back to 2012/2013 when he was invited to bring his Miss Universe and Miss World to Moscow at the behest of two Russian oligarchs close to Putin's inner circle who wined and dined him while he was on Moscow and who wanted to invest in both businesses. All the while Trump was attempting to interest them in a Trump Tower in Moscow...the Russiasn kept him dangling as they say in the business and never really committed...even Trump's son came back who a round of met and greets and property plans...no takers which is actually strange as Russian oligarch like to invest in property...

NOW what is interesting WHEN Trump messed up and stated in a debate he and Putin had seen each other then...suddenly Trump and his campaign went to ground and denied any connections to and or with Putin....

BUT good ole social media dug up a 2013 video where he stated he had indeed met Putin and found him to be personably engaging.....

WHY would he and his campaign lie about that meeting in 2013?????

WHY would Trump still today no released his feral income tax returns?

MAYBE because of the following which would in fact be seen in those returns as any American who has overseas bank accounts and large amounts of cash must declare them to the IRS....

HERE is the Achilles heel hard at work....the estimated current debt load to be services monthly and yearly of the so called Trump Empire is a round solid 650M USDs and that ain't as they chump change...

It has been rumored again via social media that Trump has several large Chinese bankers as investors and Alpha BanK in Moscow...REMEMBER the internet server in the Trump Tower caught talking to a server located in Alpha Bank Moscow...both going dead when NYTs journalists were asking about them...????

NOW reenter the Trump son who has again pointed out by social media and not MSM officially stated in interviews pertaining to several ongoing court cases that Russian oligarchs have been large scale purchasers of Trumps various investment properties and condos.....

WGAIN we know far some very good UK journalists who have been following corruption money and Russian black monies that have flowed into UK and again via social media we know that Russian oligarchs and top Russian mob individuals use the form of investing into properties as a "legal way" to wash black money white....

SO is Trump beholden to Russian and Chinese investors and to Russian black oligarch and mob monies and OR has he been "compromised" by the Russian SVR and OR GRU based on his life style????

All we heard during his rallies was Clinton is a crook ad the Clinton Foundation was a swamp of corruption BUT Trump and his campaign repeatedly lies about his contacts to and with Russian officials....WHY was that?????

SO is in fact Trump now and in the future "ethically challenged"...YES he is as long as he never open his federal tax filings for reviews by any major US accounting firm.....

REMEMBER also both Trump and his campaign BOTH stated when asked by MSM after picking up on social media comments......he was asked about contacts to and with Russian officials....in AUG and again in SEPT/Oct both he and his campaign denied it..clearly and publicly denied it....

NOW exactly TWO full days after his election we get formal and accurate information out of Moscow from a named Russian top official...oh we were in constant touch with the Trump campaign..SO either the Russians are lying but in this case I do not think they are OR Trump is basically lying to his voters and those that voted against him....

The public and the Us security service demand an answer....

REMEMBER those that work in sensitive government positions and agencies since Snowdon a getting what is called a "life style and CI polygraph" done in order to just keep working....

MAYBE it is now time for one for Trump and those that work around him and or going to be working for him in the WH.....
11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

Decision time coming fast and heavy out of Europe for Trump and his multitude of advisors since he knows nothing about internal affairs and security treaties...

Sweden seeks assurances from Trump on recently signed #US defense agreement@NATOSource
11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

REMEMBER the FBI came to the sudden conclusion just before the election that there was no Trump Russian connections that they could "see"...BUT this a statement from the FBI Criminal Divison that could not even find a highly wanted Russian mobster living in a Trump property carrying the Trump main office and fax numbers on him when someone blew the whistle and told the FBI where he was.....REMEMBER this is the same very FBI that suddenly "found and announced more so called missing Clinton emails"..the very same Criminal Division....

BTW...Slapout just so you know the FBI has been always viewed as being a solid supporting Republican organization....since the Hoover days....

BUT the FBI CI Division has been rumored to have sought an received a Federal FISA Court order pertaining to the so called non talking to the Russian Alpha Bank server...

AND the very same CI Division has been interviewing extensively Carter Page and Manafort..two highly paid consultants for the Trump campaign that suddenly quite,,,BUT where still being paid as if they did not quit...WHO showed up with their lawyer in tow for those interviews and the IRS is looking into their declared earnings from Ukraine and it is rumored that neither filed the required federal paperwork as a paid "foreign agent"...

More on Trump Russian ties #DworkinReport
https://www.scribd.com/document/3307...tic-Coalition#
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11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

Slapout and those that voted for Trump...this next two months we are in for a very bumpy ride.......
NOW Trump and his surrogates are basically stating he is "above the rule of law"....no American he is not above the "rule of law".....Nixon found out the hard way when he left to avoid federal law violations.....

Giuliani to @jaketapper on ethics laws on conflicts of interests: "Those laws don't apply to the president."

So Slapout and company we Americans can now go out and rob banks and use the Trump statements to say to the police..."your laws do not apply to me and I am free to do what I want"...come on get real here.....
11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

I had posted yesterday a comment on the Breitbart Bannon who is setting up shop now in Europe to drive a new White Nationalist Movement in France and Germany.......

Team Trump tells me Bannon did NOT reach out to Marion Le Pen, a leader in a French conservative party, or anyone connected to her/her uncle

BUT WAIT she was responding to Bannon’s first contacting her…..

Marion Le Pen
Verified account
‏@Marion_M_Le_Pen
Je réponds oui à l'invitation de Stephen Bannon, directeur de la campagne #Trump, à travailler ensemble.

From Reuters though the opposite of what the Trump campaign again says…..
Riding the Trump wave, Breitbart is expanding its U.S. operations and launching sites in Germany and France
11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

Trump vows to immediately deport up to three million immigrants: interview - AFP
And Trump “ain’t a racist”??????
BUT he pleaded to be a unifier….not a divider…..

Kleptocracy Now™ #TrumpTrash Watch: Florida
http://usat.ly/2fGoNqT

Neo Nazi website The Daily Stormer published a twitter list of 50 Clinton supporters and said they should be harassed to commit suicide…….the Neo Nazi’s now feel vindicated by Trumps rhetoric and they feel they are now accepted in the US mainstream just as the Alt Right…..

Trump says 'certain areas' of border wall with Mexico could be fence
http://reut.rs/2g3r7eP

BUT WAIT Trump kept talking about concrete walls not a “fence” which is sure not going to stop anyone these days….what will his supporters think now?????
11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

Donald J. Trump
Verified account
‏@realDonaldTrump
The @nytimes states today that DJT believes "more countries should acquire nuclear weapons." How dishonest are they. I never said this!

BUT WAIT…he did in fact state this

Yes you literally did. Even Breitbart reported it
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/...clear-weapons/

The man cannot even what he said anymore…..beginning of Alzheimer’s….?????
11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

THE question of actually “legitimacy” rises it’s head one more time……
Clinton will finish with widest popular vote margin among Electoral College losers, excluding years (1824, 1876) where not all states voted.

Votes received by GOP presidential candidate in general election:
2008 - 59.9 million
2012 - 60.9 million
2016 - 61.2 million (est.)

Votes received by Democratic presidential candidate in general election:
2008 - 69.4 million
2012 - 65.9 million
2016 - 63.4 million (est.)
11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

Kellyanne Conway says on @FoxNewsSunday Harry Reid's comments are "beyond the pale," advises him to be careful in "legal sense"

(Reid called Trump a "sexual predator")

BUT WAIT…the discovery process would be painful for a Trump lawyer…..

For reasons too obvious to require explanation, it's a huge free speech threat for a President to threaten critics with legal action.
11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

`Now there is a hashtag #Trumpriot and Russian Propaganda Agency RT tries to stoke the fire

Russia's so protective of its Trump. RT loves showing US protests, but when against Putin or Trump, suddenly they're illegit & Soros funded

Anonymous accuse Assange of corrupting @wikileaks, conspiring w/ #Russia to promote #Trump, hide certain SyriaFiles
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=-t2Gj0dDz8c

Interestingly it is Anonymous calling out Wikileaks as proRussian controlled…
11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

It would be nice to have an update on this FBI investigation into Russian hacking of electoral systems of FL, WI, AZ etc.

FBI: 'Russian hackers' accessed Florida voter info, possible breaches in WI and AZ
11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

Henry Kissinger, Cold War era strongest hardballer, predicts Trump's temper calls for terrorists to attack America.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...utm_source=twb …

MUST READ “The choice is between cowardice and absolutism”
https://medium.com/letters-code/the-...bb8#.woaxqev76
Calling out modern fascism…..

THIS man claims to be this fantastic highly successful businessman and YET they cannot build their own website without stealing from others....just as the speech of his wife at the RP Convention was "lifted".....

.@realDonaldTrump transition website lifts passages from nonpartisan nonprofit
http://politi.co/2eTq1zT

Trump tried to "buy positive coverage with gifts"
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...overage-gifts/
11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

RP controls now the Presidency...SC....both houses of Congress and then potentially....

Democrats now control only 13 state legislatures (26%). If they lose 1 more they fall below the % needed to stop constitutional amendments.

THEN they can change the entire US Constitution at will.......remember I mentioned the concept of the US slipping into fascism...."with a friendly face"?

We are now not far from that happening in the coming years are we????
11-13-2016
OUTLAW 09

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/13/op...=tw-share&_r=1

SundayReview | Editorial
The Danger of Going Soft on Russia
By THE EDITORIAL BOARDNOV. 12, 2016

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Among the first world leaders to congratulate President-elect Donald Trump was Vladimir Putin. And why shouldn’t he?

Just when relations between Russia and the West are at their most precarious point since the Cold War, Mr. Trump has been Russia’s defender and the beneficiary of Moscow’s efforts to influence the presidential campaign.

At times he has seemed almost intoxicated by the Russian president, praising Mr. Putin’s firmness and insisting that the two could resolve any differences if they met. Meanwhile, he has shown little concern that Russia poses a major strategic challenge.

Few experts believe that Russia wants war with the West, but many worry that Mr. Putin’s aggressive behavior as he tries to revive Russian greatness (thus masking problems at home) could result in the kind of dangerous miscalculations that often lead to armed conflict.

Russia’s hacking of the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign to interfere in the election was brazen. Even worse were actions that threatened human life and global stability, like Mr. Putin’s airstrikes against civilians in Syria, his positioning of nuclear-capable weaponry near Poland and the Baltic States, his annexation of Crimea and the war he waged in eastern Ukraine.

He violated the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty by producing a ground-launched cruise missile and canceled a 16-year-old accord on reducing stockpiles of weapons-grade plutonium.

Despite this behavior, despite the obvious need for the next president to be alert to Mr. Putin’s mischief and to be willing to resist it, Mr. Trump has so far been Mr. Putin’s apologist.

Mr. Trump has dismissed the intelligence community’s finding that Russia was behind the hacking, displaying a disrespect for the facts and for the security institutions that compile them. On Thursday, a senior Russian official admitted that the Kremlin had been in contact with Trump allies during the campaign. While it’s not unusual for presidential campaigns to be in touch with foreign leaders, the situation raises heightened concerns given the hacking and the connections between a former senior Trump campaign official and the pro-Russia former president of Ukraine.

NOTE: WHY is the Trump campaign and Trump himself so adamant there was never any contact..COULD that lone server in Trump Tower and in the Russian Alpha Bank in Moscow be far more important that many think....it certainly was a connection between two people used for potentially intelligence reasons...WHO used it is the next question.....

WHEN MSM should have been chasing the Russian connections before the election which they somehow strangely did not BUT social media kept the story alive .....NOW it is a true US Intelligence Community CI issue....

Since Mr. Trump has refused to criticize the Kremlin, it’s important that Mr. Obama figure out, before he leaves office, how to punish Russia for the hacking in a way that demonstrates Washington’s determination to resist cyberattacks without further escalating the conflict. Getting the balance right will not be easy. Mr. Obama should also keep talking with Russia on mutually acceptable cyber-deterrence guidelines that set rules for regulating, defending against and deterring malicious intrusions in cyberspace.

The deteriorating relationship between Moscow and Washington is a long way from what was envisioned when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 and there were high hopes that Russia would become a democracy integrated with the West. In 2009, Mr. Obama authorized Hillary Clinton, his first secretary of state, to “reset” relations, aiming to foster cooperation.

The two sides worked together on an arms control treaty and the Iran nuclear deal, but on the whole the reset failed, largely because of Mr. Putin. Restoring Russia to power and to a central role in world affairs turned out to be more important to Mr. Putin, and the Russians, than peaceful or profitable ties with the West. His foreign policy is a fairly consistent continuation of Soviet policy — preventing Western encirclement by moving into Ukraine; fighting proxy battles to support Russian interests, as in Syria; and challenging American power wherever possible.

Continued....
11-14-2016
OUTLAW 09

Oh great, @RT_com is spending its time hyping up fear, instigating an image of total chaos & insecurity in #Europe ahead of #French election
11-14-2016
OUTLAW 09

I know Slapout and 60M others that voted for Trumpkin might not like the following but if we take the SWC posted comments of Winston Churchill to heart....HERE goes a rant that will definitely not be liked by many who voted for Trumpkin.....

IF we look at just how populism has unfolded over the last say SIX years across the globe and especially in the US....we need urgently to honesty be willing to admit that those that voted for Trumpkin have no earthly idea what ethno nationalism is...no earthly idea what fascism is...no earthly idea that the Us still is entrenched in racism directed at blacks and minorities and no earthly idea many do not support women's rights and her reproductive rights...AND those civil liberties and human rights..WELL not for non Whites is the answer....

AND for the US those that voted for Trumpkin failed to distance themselves from the KKK with their media outlet The Klansman and the US Neo Nazi Party and their media outlet The Stormer and the countless media outlets on the neo right and extreme right ie radio stations that drove home the messaging/narrative of the reemerging "alt Right"..."and white supremacy"....

BY not distancing themselves from this element within the Trumpkin voting mass...they actually inadvertently support ethno nationalism BUT what might be far more crazy is DO they in the end "identify" with those messages from the extreme right????

A history lesson for those that did not have much to do with Europe theses days.....

Hungary under Orban started out as a relatively strong supporter of a pro EU Party and who ever so gently moved that pro EU party to the far right ie "populist party" WHERE now he is formally known for his tight Putin connections and his "populist party" is now currently more and more anti EU....ALL the while still taking EU financial handouts to the tune of millions of Euros....WE are seeing the same exact maneuvering in France with Le Pen and in Poland..while at least Poland remains tightly committed to the EU and NATO

JUMP forward to the US...it is the general consensus that no independent can win in US elections...Trump was a and is still a closeted racist hidden in the garments of a "populist".....knowing he could not get elected as "independent populist" he needed a "populist party"...EXACTLY as Oran needed one before he shifted.....

SO Trumpkin started running in the RP primaries and if one really followed him he countless times stated he was not really a "true Republican" and played then the media and his constant racist..sexist and bigoted statements to a vaster audience than he has ever had....AND the messaging resonated....

THEN after winning the primaries he stood "legally alone" as the winner of the RP and then became the RP candidate for President WITHIN the RP.....

NOW kicks in the current Hungarian Orban model....Trumpkin never changed his rhetoric of racism...sexism. and bigotry......

NOW suddenly the old line political RP is now the new populist party led by a populist still using the same racist...sexist and bigoted messaging that he started with....

BUT now the so called old line RP is really no longer the true RP BUT the WHITE NATIONALIST PARTY.....

BTW..posted here was a Bannon tweet indicating he was moving his operations from Breitbart to Germany and France....THEN he was pushed back and told to shut up....in that SWJ posted tweet EVEN Bannon wrote the words...to create a WHITE NATIONAL PARTY....UNQUOTE...think that term through very carefully ...

Savor the words "white supremacist"

With the addition to the Trumpkin staff of Bannon who is a declared ultra nationalist...basically a "white supremacist" AND anti Semitic all strategic Trumpkin messaging ie propaganda will be coming through him and directed by him....for the next FOUR years...

AND those that do not believe it possible to have fascism with a friendly smile get ready for some changes you never expected to see in the US...

Just some highlights from the the last 18 months to refresh one mind about Trumpkin....and company....

1. REMEMBER when David Duke KKK leader endorsed Trumpkin..his response...WHO is David Duke...once it was explained to him...DID he push back on The Klansman editor supporting his election..NO he did not.

2. REMEMBER when he released one of his first anti Semitic ads with the Star of David and he took flak for it...EXPLAINING he though the Star of David was a sheriffs badge....come one guys....

3. REMEMBER when Trumpkin repeatedly six months ago retweeted anti Semitic tweets from the Klan and the "alt Right" ..his statement..he did not know they wer anti Semitic....come on guys

4. REMEMBER his last campaign ad...truly anti Semitic and he did not even comment when called out on it...

5. REMEMBER when his son Eric retweeted countless "alt Right" Tweets and he did not repute them when he was called out....

6. REMEMBER all is his rally statements that where blatantly sexist....racist and bigoted....NONE of them ever called back....

LASTLY an all important point...JUST how long did Trumpkin drive the "birther issue" and lead that movement in a direct fashion...STARTING WHEN?????

THEN his speech where he stated he was going to be the President of all of us and the great uniter...BUT it took him until yesterday to call out the violence of his supporters against minorities and women....being reported literally from all over the US....AND some of it was posted here and some felt it was the work of a "Clinton organized opposition"....

AND most of ALL did he call out the Neo Nazi media outlet that listed the names of 50 Clinton supporters..mostly women and stated send emails..tweets...calls to this listed individuals and rive them to suicide....

NOTICE he did not repudiate "The Stomer" did he?

With the naming of Bannon...and believe me many Europeans fully understand US politics far better than most Americans...the morning headlines in some of the most influential German newspapers and yes German read a lot of newspapers...."Bannon the ultra nationalist" named to Trumpkin's Staff".....

"Ultra nationalist" is buzz speak for Nazi....

The debate over what the Trumpkin FP will and or could be has run it's course we now know with Bannon and the neocons that have drifted back towards the WH ..it will be aggressive to anything other than American..it will be Protectionist and it will be Ethno Nationalist in ideology..
BESIDES his bromance with Putin and his 300% alignment with Putin's FP tells us were we are going with Russia....
11-14-2016
OUTLAW 09

THIS confirms what I have been posting on SWJ since Brexit and now Trumpkin...immigration and the effects of globalization are just smokescreen for a populist/facist trend .....

Highly recommended article by @epkaufm. Fear of change most important reason for #Trump and #Brexit, not economy.
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpo...onomy-stupid/#
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11-14-2016
OUTLAW 09

ASK anyone who voted for Trumpkin just what is information warfare inside the Russian non linear warfare and you will get a totally blank stare coming back to you......and then ..what do you mean comes next?

Information warfare is the attempt to change an entire societies way of thinking and to accept your narrative as the "truth" and to distrust actual truth/facts....IT is all about Russian propaganda driving on the 6Ds....dismay...dismiss/deflect...distort....distract ALL designed to create doubt and distrust....

Editorial Opinion: "Lies in the Guise of News in the #Trump Era," via Nicholas Kristof in the @nytimeshttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/13/op...-iphone-share#

MANY Trumpkin voters would point to the sheer volume on Twitter as "proof" of the Trumping popularity and even Trumpkin mentioned the sheer number of followers on Twitter as proof of his message ebing correct...

BUT did they and Trumpkin ever comment on the proven information coming out of Europe that over 1/3rd of all proTrumpkin tweet were being generated by a Russian company paying young Macedonians to tweet proTrumpkin comments...THAt means on any given day 33% of Trumpkin social media supporters were Russian paid info warriors....

THINK about it?????
11-14-2016
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11-14-2016
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11-14-2016
OUTLAW 09

One-Hundred Years of Fear: America Has Abdicated Its Leadership of the West
http://spon.de/aeRLF via @SPIEGELONLINE
11-14-2016
OUTLAW 09

Charles Lister ‏@Charles_Lister

My brief comments on jihadist perceptions of #Trump’s victory in the U.S., plus implications for the region:

http://www.mei.edu/content/article/m...gn-policy-team … #Syria
11-14-2016
OUTLAW 09

Middle East
Donald Trump Likely to End Aid for Rebels Fighting Syrian Government
By DAVID E. SANGERNOV. 11, 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/wo...ump-syria.html

Military aid to rebels financed & delivered by regional sunni powers, what happens next is a test for GCC-Turk ties.

This could also force all factions including JFS and FSA to unite and fully merge when the moderate-radical limitations becomes irrelevant

THIS means 100,000 rebel fighters merging into JFS.....
11-14-2016
OUTLAW 09

Future Trump FP being driven by cash.......????

Trump’s Top Military Adviser Is Lobbying For Obscure Company With Ties To Turkish Government

Flynn wrote an op-ed on Tues. calling for extradition of Fethullah Gulen. It was a curious piece and unusual for a former DIA Director..........
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http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/11/tr...ser-is-lobbyin...

Quote:

An intelligence consulting firm founded by retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Donald Trump’s top military adviser, was recently hired as a lobbyist by an obscure Dutch company with ties to Turkey’s government and its president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

The revelation of that new lobbying contract, which has not been previously reported, raises several questions given that Trump is said to be considering Flynn, the former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), to take over as either Secretary of Defense or National Security Advisor.

It also raises questions about disclosure.

Flynn wrote an op-ed for The Hill on Tuesday, just before Trump’s stunning upset of Hillary Clinton, in which he heaped praise on Erdogan and called on the next president, whoever that would be, to accede his request to extradite the U.S.-based Muslim cleric Fethullah Gülen back to Turkey
11-14-2016
OUTLAW 09

Putin Says France 'Deceived' Russia On Syrian UN Resolution - Likely False
http://bit.ly/2eyKRWB

US info warfare on its self hard at work......fake site could though not be tracked so it could have come from outside the US
Google's top news link for 'final election results' goes to a fake news site with false numbers
http://wpo.st/4xBE2
11-15-2016
Azor

To Outlaw 09 and Crowbat

Gentlemen:

Once Trump assumes that presidency in January, how will the Free Syrian Army be impacted?

My impression of the current situation is that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are supplying the weapons to the FSA (including the TOWs), and the CIA's role is to vet those units that are being supplied.

If Trump terminates the CIA operation, it is reasonable to assume that Doha and Riyadh may increase their support for the rebels and do so in an unconstrained manner, supported by Ankara and Amman.

While Clinton would have imposed a no-fly zone over Aleppo possibly, Trump may well prove less restrictive in practice than Obama...

Thoughts?
11-15-2016
OUTLAW 09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azor

Gentlemen:

Once Trump assumes that presidency in January, how will the Free Syrian Army be impacted?

My impression of the current situation is that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are supplying the weapons to the FSA (including the TOWs), and the CIA's role is to vet those units that are being supplied.

If Trump terminates the CIA operation, it is reasonable to assume that Doha and Riyadh may increase their support for the rebels and do so in an unconstrained manner, supported by Ankara and Amman.

While Clinton would have imposed a no-fly zone over Aleppo possibly, Trump may well prove less restrictive in practice than Obama...

Thoughts?

Azor...interesting questions that some here at SWJ do not really want to discuss.....to fully understand Trumps FP one must discuss Trump himself and what has he stated during say not the campaign but even earlier..WHAT you hear from Trump is what you get....and people do not take that serious enough...they just think it was campaign rhetoric....

1. first concern is the serious CI question hanging directly over Trump and a number of his advisors past and current...

If you thoroughly and some here at SWJ did not want to go down that road. Thoroughly look at the period 2008 and 2012..Trump shifted and shifted hard to a proRussian stance on a number of things...in exactly the 2012/2013 timeframe when he was in Russia SO one must actually ask the core question.... WHY the shift and for what reasons when the RP has had a strong counter Russian policy since Reagan.

2. take the Ukraine....he shifted with direct influence the RP Platform on Ukraine from what the RP Congressional side wanted...strong support to Ukraine to a position matching exactly what Putin has been stating and then he and his campaign when confronted with the sudden shift denied as usual that they were behind it.....

3. he then stated the same exact Russian position in numerous rallies and debates

4. he strictly avoided meeting with the Ukrainian President during the recent UNGA when all candidates were pushing for photo ops..CHECK his statements on the Russian military annexation of Crimea..."he stated I can see me recognizing the Russian Crimea referendum".....CHECK his statements on the continued need to sanction Russia.."he can see eliminating those sanctions"....

5. take his position now on Syria ..your original question...you can match exactly what Putin has been pushing since their first proposal to work jointly with the US against supposedly IS to the exact same statements made repeatedly by Trump.

Trump is a perfect fit to the same Russian position even down to potentially fully supporting the Kurdish drive for statehood...AND check his comments on Israel and the Palestrian's where he stated he will move the US Embassy to Jerusalem.

He wants to fight IS jointly with ASSAD and Putin...will he go down that path? Check my first comments...he is for some strange reasons joined at the hip of Putin and the question is why....

If the US pulls it's connections ...one you have great resistance right now inside DoD to work jointly with Russia with good reason....IMHO I do believe the CIA has the same security concerns a number of current and former CI types have....Trump has been compromised during his 2012/2013 trips to Moscow and his great reliance on Russian oligarch monies and his 249 Trump companies inside Russia.

This concern was voiced by two former CIA/NSA Directors who went even further than I do and they called Trump directly "a Russian agent of influence"....buzz words for "he has been badly compromised security wise"....

BUT actually it might not be so bad for the anti Assad forces...as the Obama group has been influencing the delivery of TOWs/MANPADs and that restriction would come off and the rebels have been easily getting them into Syria....

Secondly...what has been strange is that Israel flatly told the Russian PM when he was just in Israel....Iran out of Syria BUT then we hear that while Trump wants to cancel the Iran Deal...which is dead anyway because Iran has seriously violated several critical parts....recently again confirmed by UNSC KSA wants the agreement held in place...WHY...I think the KSA is fearful that they will have to then drive to develop a nuclear counterweight to Iran and then you have an instant nuclear arms race...remember KSA does not have to develop one they just purchase one from Pakistan which that have supported for years in their nuclear developments....

With the US out of the picture then KSA..Qatar and their other Sunni sponsors are free to drive fully against Assad....question is what is the Turkish position and how much financial support does Erdogan then gets from the Sunni Front States....

There has been a floating rumor among the FSA groups that Turkey and Russia have "an agreement on Aleppo"...meaning Russia "allows Turkey to control the entire border area blacking the YPG/PKK in exchange for giving up Aleppo to Assad"...do not believe this as Aleppo has always been a red line publicly stated by Turkey....

Without US involvement the rebels and their sponsors are then free to drive against Assad which the US has under Obama been basically blocking for the last two years...something the Russians do not want...

The biggest problem though for Trump is he hangs himself onto Putin is that he would be highly successful in driving approx. 100,000 relatively well trained and combat experienced fighters into the open arms of JFS (AQ) and that would not be the "victory he promised the Trump supporters"....

You can sense the mutual joy by both IS and AQ in the Trump election..in one fall swoop Trump has confirmed their propaganda narrative about the West and the US and they both feel vindicated in their fight against the West and the US.....

Again my central concern is the Trump Russian connection and is the President of the US CI wise badly compromised to the point that US FP is Russian FP....

Just my opinion.....BTW back to the Trump security clearance and access issue...Trump announced that his entire businesses all 500 of them will be placed into a blind trust run by his family...and that will guarantee surely he does not hear a thing about the businesses for four long years...come on....

NOW he wants TS/SCI clearances for the exact same family members....IF you have been either in the military and or government TS/SCI and being read on is strictly on a need to know basis.....so are they also going to participate in his intelligence briefings and decisions AND at the same time not talk to him at all about his 500 businesses????

Also I posted initially on the Trump thread that got shut down the fact that while he was bashing Muslims daily in his rallies and debates HE via back channels informed Araba countries..." do not pay attention to the anti Muslim Arab rhetoric it is just campaigning rhetoric"...WHY because he has a lot of businesses in the entire ME and needs their investment monies to finance his so called empire because he is cut off from US banks...SO will in the end will his businesses determine his FP...IMHO I truly think so....BUT did he state that to his supporters and hundreds of rallies..no he did not....he just kept on bashing Muslims....

BUT again why do his children need TS/SCI clearances????

BTW..this goes in general for other FP areas and Trump.....

Chinese activists fear they will be forgotten as reality show president prepares extreme makeover of US-China ties
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ical-roadkill#

QUOTE from social media....
And they're still running his businesses -- so he's giving his businesses free access to trillions in dollars of American intelligence.

AZOR...this is in fact a serious issue inadvertently raised.....there are tons of business and economic intelligence passed on a daily basis from embassies around the world AND Trumps has over 500 businesses worldwide...
11-15-2016
OUTLAW 09

What a @realDonaldTrump Presidency Means for the Middle East. @ACmideast→
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...e-middle-east#

Russia Is About To Send $10 Billion Worth Of Weapons To The Leading State Sponsor Of Terrorism –
http://defconwarningsystem.com/2016/...of-terrorism/#

My @NewStatesman analysis on what the Kremlin wants from the first Trump-Putin summit.
http://www.newstatesman.com/world/eu...eady-big-deal#

AZOR....this is a serious concern for me personally as I have been posting repeatedly on the Ukraine thread from the very beginning....PUTIN wants badly a Yalta 2.0 agreement giving him total "influence over eastern and western Europe" and that is then recognized officially by the US".....that has been his goal since Georgia...Moldavia and now eastern Ukraine/Crimea .....he has been pushing and pushing the EU and Obama to do just such a deal.....SINCE 2006 he and his FM have repeatedly stated they wanted to see an economic region under Russian "influence" from Portugal to the Russian Far East and both have never come off of this "dream"...WITH Trump they see this as now being possible....WITH Clinton it would have never happened in their lifetimes....

If you think that this is not possible go back to the Trump statements about his abilities to do deals and then seriously relook Trumps Russian comments since 2012...THIS deal is coming.....

THIS confirms the Russian drift inside Trump's inner circle and one has to wonder why that is so...WHEN the Reagan RP has a clear vision of the Russian threat to the US.......?

Giuliani thinks Russia's invasions of its neighbors (Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova) and aggression against the Baltics, etc. etc are our fault?

Giuliani is rumored to be the coming next DoS...REMEMBER it was Guiliaini who in fact leaked the additional Clinton emails two full days before the FBI announcement about more emails.....as he has deep friends still inside the FBI and the FBI Director worked for the Giuliani law firm before becoming FBI director...
11-15-2016
OUTLAW 09

Azor...this is exactly what I am saying here ...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartandhp

What we never heard in the campaign is that Trump owns and or controls 249 Russian companies he has never explained to the voters....SO will his FP say with Putin reflect a desire to protect and improve his Russian business bottom lines or will he act in the interests of the US electorate and potentially lose tons of money in that decision????

Same goes for virtually the entire planet were he has business interests...especially the ME and their cash assets he needs to service a 650M USD debt load...

Trump has not released his tax returns especially those since 2012...and we do not know for sure... is his bromance with Putin due to say a large Russian bank loan at great low interest rates to service a massive debt load or has the business empire profited heavily from strong Russian oligarch property purchases one of their selected methods to launder untraceable black monies...AND that is the reason for his early rejection of Ukrainian US interests and his early drive to support both Putin and Assad in Syria ....this is a serious conflict of interest until resolved....

BUT Trump and his surrogates say ..."trust Trump he is rich so he will not be greedy"...BUT at the same time Giuliani stated on a Sunday talk show Trump is above the US conflict of interest laws and does not have to answer to them as President ....BUT is this not exactly how rich oligarchs think and act.....for them it is all about making even more money.....REMEMBER in a 2000 Fortune Magazine interview Trump stated that if he ran for President "he could make money at it"....

SO in the future instead of debating why a FP is strategic for the US will we see FP decisions made on the business bottom line of the Trump Empire or in the true interests of the US and YES even in the ME.....

Azor...this is exactly what I mean......read the Russian wording of the FM stated..current US discredited anti Russia policy"..SO does the Russian FM know in this statement that the coming Trump FP is "a friendly Russian policy"...based on Trumps initial statements I believer they believe that actually.???

MFA Russia ��
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@mfa_russia
#Ryabkov: #US expanded list of #sanctions reflect discredited anti-#Russia policy of outgoing Obama administration
http://sptnkne.ws/cG96

SIX Crimean Duma reps were placed on the sanctions list...

QESTION is will Trump continue them since he favors recognizing the Russian referendum as it was "legal"....he seems to have completely missed the "little green men" Russian invasion of Crimea....

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