Sowing confusuion is my reason d'etre...
Quote:
Originally Posted by
selil
I'm getting the impression that most soldiers don't do a lot of hand to hand combat. I figure the few police officers/corrections officers on here likely have a greater understanding of non-fire-arm combat which actually kind of surprises me.
They don't and they should not. It can and should be generally avoided. There are however a few units that have a greater probability of such contact and need to be trained accordingly. For the bulk of the Army or Marines, that isn't necessary -- or desirable.
I don't know why that would be a surprise; sort of figures if you ask me. The soldiers job, essentially is to kill the bad guys; the cops is to restrain them with minimum damage.
Quote:
One comment that put me on my heels was the idea that restraint or arrest training could be done in only a few hours. How many layers to the ladder of force are their in an arrest situation?
Take off your Cop hat and put on your Marine cover. The first has many constraints in law and practice, the second has very few. A bruise in the wrong place can kill a cop's career. Not nearly as likely for the Marine. The Cop's job is to protect and to serve; the Marines to kill or be killed.
Quote:
I'm just more and more surprised at the numerous issues like going to ground (ever heard of between a rock and a hard place?)...
So was I...
Quote:
...and other things that make zero sense. In a jail riot you want to end the capability of an adversary rapidly not spar. Every technique I was taught in several years of training (Combined Arts Training System), was mostly based off actual fights and how to end them quickly. Just chalk this up to quietly puzzled.
The difference between the Cop and the Marine yet again. The Cop really, really wants to end that fight quickly and without undue harm to all involved. The Marine wants his fight to end even more quickly (because he invariably has other worries and things to do) and he is not and should not be too concerned -- not unconcerned in the case of detaining someone, just not too concerned -- with damage to the opponent.
Does a three button set then equal
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Coldstreamer
If he'd been a Coldstreamer someone would have offered him a drink and a girl...
two girls? ;)
Coldsteamer, Coldstreamer.....
You seem to be self-conscious and lacking esteem, Coldstreamer. ;)
Not to worry, it's not too late for you to become something special. :wry:
After all, there's still G Squadron, 22 SAS. :p