Truck load of salt, perhaps..
Possibly. Mine and I suspect yours
were involved in the aftermath and the -- is there a foremath? :confused:
Anyhoo, cleaning up is hard to do.
When all's said and done, most folks do the best they can
with the hand they're dealt. Can't ask for more than that. We can and should ask that sometimes the dealers do a better job...
They don't always do the best they can with the deck they're given.
And Grossman derives from Marshall...
...who annoyed Hackworth by responding to his Vietnam criticisms that "war is war". :o
Hmm. You just named three flakes in one comment --
and got 'em in ascending order of flakiness, too.
My opinion, of course. Good job. ;)
War is war, no one should get annoyed at that. Warfare differs wildly from time to time and place to place and person to person. Marshall and Hackworth were legends in their own minds. Grossman is less dangerous but not all that much though he is getting smarter as he gets older. Marshall and Hackworth did not; Hack in fact, got worse.
Youse guys own a salt concession ...
or what ? ;)
Yes, I will heed your advice in reading the books - having read Marshall on Marshall, Hackworth on Marshall and Hackworth on Hackworth, following that advice will not be hard. Actually liked Hackworth's TV persona, lacking any personal knowledge of the man.
Grossman is an unknown quantity to me - anyway, those two books were for my personal consumption (perhaps, a better picture of my dad; probably not).
I growled my way through the first 20 pages of the first ROE book (which does have a lot of original documentation in later chapters). Let's say that the author and I have some basic differences on the Laws of War and ROE/RUFs. Which is not bad - scarcely worthwhile reading a book that completely agrees with me. Slow reading though. Hey, that's wrong - so, compose the counter-argument in my head. Next paragraph, same thing.
Regards to all you wise men :)
Mike
I think he'd gotten smarter by the time he wrote that,
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I'm reading On Combat for my Psychology 101 class. It's not bad so far.
I thought it was a lot better than "On Killing." Eight years later and the presence of co-authors probably helped. I've also talked to folks who've been to his recent lectures and apparently he's gotten still smarter. Some people do that as they age -- I, of course, elected not to do so... :D
I'm probably excessively suspicious of anyone who puts much reliance on psychology; while I acknowledge it's a discipline and has merits, I also believe people are very difficult to pigeon hole and that events can affect or change people in unexpected ways. I've seen veritable Tigers fall apart at small provocation and mousy types take on a Company -- literally. You never know what drives people...
Met both Hackworth and Marshall
As Vicky said, 'we were not amused.' LINK, LINK.
Marshall was a political, cheerful and sort of unfocused type IMO -- did have some good stories, though. At least he had a sense of humor and was funny.
Hackworth OTOH was one of those people you meet everywhere, not just in the service, and who are memorable only for the force of their egos and their focus on appearances.
My son met Grossman, says he's okay. More than he says about some other icons he's met who are named here on occasion... :wry:
True. Not likely to happen in the near future, though. No war, that is...
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War leads to war crimes, and the only sure way to avoid that seems to be to avoid war. Good example, discipline and control (good leadership) can only reduce the problem.
There's no white and black, and "our boys don't do that" is naive. Humans are almost the same everywhere, and they can turn ugly with an unpleasantly high chance once they've been subjected to war-like conditions.
Yes, true indeed. While those are true statements, a degree of naivete exists in the world. Putting anyone into a situation of danger is going to bring some pretty normal reactions -- even if those reactions would not be normal absent the danger. For example, in a similar story LINK, the headline is "Gaza invasion: 'If you're not sure – kill'."
Yes. Exactly what almost everyone in that situation should logically be expected do...