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I recall a video of a hyaena pack and a lion pack. There was a dead zebra or gnu on the ground, and the hyaenas were feasting on it.
The lions approached and both packs began to threaten each other with gesture and voices.
The lead female of the lion pack finally attacked and killed a hyaena, and the hyaenas withdrew.
We're a bit more sophisticated, of course.
Not much different, though.
MMMM Could anyone tell me
Exactly what the political agendas were for the Hatfields and the Mccoys
Or maybe even what the initial political reason for the mongolian leader to get a group of guys together to go get back his wife
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Heed Greyhawk's advice re: challenges ...
in drawing any firm conclusions on "primitive warfare".
Brief SWC thread here, where 120mm cites the 1995 dissertation "The Origin of War", by Dr. J.M.G. Van Der Dennen, which is still here. Interesting read; huge bibliography & discusses various theories. You will find a lot of controversy by following the obvious Google leads.
A proof of organized primitive warfare (Neolithic; one of many) is attached -"combate de arquero", from a Spanish cave (Morella la Vella, provincia de Castellón) - punch this.
Actually, it started about Civil War politics
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It was about land reform....as in you got it.....I want it.... let's fight about it.
the Hatfields fit for the Union, the McCoys for the Confederacy. That led to the first death of a wounded and home recuperating McCoy before the war was even over and then it later turned on a supposedly stolen pig and went downhill rapidly. No land involved...
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Actually, it may be helpful for you to present your thesis statement and who you're writing for. Somewhat difficult to point you down the right path without a bit more detail of where you think you want to go.
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Brief SWC thread
here, where 120mm cites the 1995 dissertation "The Origin of War", by Dr. J.M.G. Van Der Dennen, which is still
here. Interesting read; huge bibliography & discusses various theories. You will find a lot of controversy by following the obvious Google leads.
Here's a no-fee version of the linked article that began that thread.
One thing you might notice in the course of your research is that you're in an area that isn't without controversy. That said, religious texts and mythologies might also present some quotable material (authoritative only in that "adherents believed X happened").
Here's Wikipedia on the Battle of Megiddo ("the first battle to have been recorded in what is accepted as relatively reliable detail.") and same source on the Battle of Kadesh ("there is more evidence in the form of texts and wall reliefs for this battle than for any other battle in the Ancient Near East") which seem to be a bit too recent for your purposes :) but may be useful, even if only as brief introductory citations. I offer Wiki as a starting point, not definitive.
Off topic: Some will appreciate the irony of this comment re: Kadesh - "There is no consensus about the outcome or what took place, with views ranging from an Egyptian victory, a draw, and an Egyptian defeat (with the Egyptian accounts simply propaganda)."
Hopefully some day someone will figure it out.
Okay, read it. What timber land was involved?
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No feudin' over land, timber or otherwise that I can see. Where specifically did you see that?
You can also check this book LINK It has a little more detail than the wiki and it has no fighting over timber... :confused:
Oh and the pig was on Hatfield land -- but that wasn't the issue, it allegedly had McCoy notches; the issue was the pig, not the land.
I guess what I was trying to get at is
have we perhaps over the last few centuries began to assign cause and effect in inter societal interactions/ conflicts to strictly political machinations when quite often throughout history it may have been due more to needs/requirements for survival or support/security and the political pieces generally tended to determine how those where dealt with or in what manner?
Big question is Is there a major difference?
Actually he teaches History at
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On another thread Surferbeetle links to thread about Harvard graduate Niall Ferguson on the current financial situation...
Harvard and is an Oxford graduate. He's written several other books on economic history and history of the US and of the British Empire that aren't based on anything Galbraith ever did -- Galbraith did copy a fair bit from Keynes, though. Ferguson's almost as Socialistically inclined as those two were... :wry: