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Jul06 #Avdiivka @untrikoy Direct hit on watch post 2 shells, finished w/RPG-18 Mukha. 1 KIA body was like jelly, 1 wounded died later, 3 WIA
Horlivka Municipal department of surgery @rjpthjuljytwr [fb, pro-RU source] 3 wounded "republic's servicemen", delivered fr/#Zaytseve, die
Trump advisor.......
Carter Page sees Ukraine as runaway province of Russia, excused aggression, saying US wd stop Quebec if tried to secede from Canada
If I recall the US never got involved in the succession drive by Quebec as it viewed t a Canadian problem.....
Russian troops are getting more and more involved in the actual ground fighting as their mercenaries are not making much headway.......
Eight #Russian servicemen killed & nine wounded in #Donbas earlier this week
http://uawire.org/news/ukranian-inte...-in-the-donbas …
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Russian troops, waging war against Ukraine in the Donbas, continue to bear significant losses. According to the Main Directorate of Intelligence of Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense, eight Russian servicemen were killed earlier this week.
“On the 5th of July, eight Russian servicemen of the 3rd Independent Motorized Rifle Brigade (Horlivka), the 11th Independent Motorized Rifle Regiment (Makiivka), the 9th Independent Assault Motorized Rifle Regiment of the Naval Infantry (Novoazovsk) and the Independent Reconnaissance Battalion (Donetsk) were killed and 9 wounded,” the statement said.
The greatest losses were sustained by the Russian troops stationed in Novoazovsk. These Russian units have recently intensified sabotage, reconnaissance missions and the shelling of Ukrainian forces in Mariupol. At the same time their morale, as well as that of the 1st Army Corps (Donetsk) of the Russian Armed Forces, remains extremely low.
On the 5th of July, eight separatists left the front lines in eastern Ukraine and expressed their unwillingness to continue their combat service after witnessing five bodies and four seriously injured fellow soldiers being transported off the front line, the Main Directorate of Intelligence of Ukraine reported.
New russian weapons detected in Eastern Ukraine (2014-2016)
http://olarh.at/voentorg/
Russia concerned by redeployment of NATO-trained Ukrainian units towards Donbass
http://tass.ru/en/politics/886821 …
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MOSCOW, July 7. /TASS/. Russia is concerned by the redeployment towards Donbass of the Ukrainian army units trained by NATO instructors, the Russian ambassador to NATO, Alexander Grushko, said in an interview published by Kommersant Daily.
"Assistance programs NATO is implementing in Ukraine play into the hands of the ‘party of war’ and incite the feeling of a possible military revenge among some forces in Kiev," Grushko said. "We’re also concerned by the redeployment of units trained by NATO instructors to the line of contact in Donbass."
Grushko also expressed concern over the fact NATO’s political course had taken the shape of military planning.
"That’s really dangerous, because the military planning that targets Russia will unavoidably generate hostile policies," he said.
"NATO will have to explain to society all the time why is its spending so hugely to rebuff the threat from the East," Grushko said. "It’s clear to everyone a threat of this kind doesn’t exist.".
One simulation shows that a Russian invasion of the #Baltics would be over in < 3 days.
https://www.gisreportsonline.com/ins...ense,1886.html …
Currently @RT_com is explaining that the intervention in #Libya was indefensible, but any opposition to Russia in Ukraine is warmongering.
http://europe.newsweek.com/putin-cal...arabakh-478285
Obama and Putin talk by each other........again......
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Russian President Vladimir Putin phoned U.S. counterpart Barack Obama to discuss Syria, Ukraine and the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
The readouts from Wednesday’s conversation published by the White House and Kremlin had some notable differences, with each leader stressing their side on each issue.
According to the Kremlin’s statement, during their discussion on Syria, Putin called on Obama to find a way to separate militant groups from the moderate Syrian opposition in order to continue peace talks. Meanwhile, according to the White House, Obama stressed to Putin “the failure of the Syrian regime” to comply with the ceasefire and urged Russia to pressure its ally towards compliance.
The Kremlin also said that Obama “gave high praise to Russia’s efforts” in regulating the conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenian-backed forces in Nagorno Karabakh. The White House makes no mention of this, but instead affirms Obama’s willingness to maintain U.S. efforts in peace initiatives in the region.
The two leaders also appeared to be talking past each other when it came to Ukraine, with Putin insisting the U.S. see the importance of including the Russian-backed separatist groups in dialogue.
Ukraine considers Russia to be behind the separatists so it has repeatedly called for Russian officials to represent the separatist forces in peace talks, while Russia denies this and argues that the dispute is domestic. For that reason Obama asked Putin to ensure the uptick in violence in eastern Ukraine is reversed and Russia implement the ceasefire agreed by all sides last year.
Relatively quiet Russian party tonight.....
Starting at around 21:00 it is getting a little louder and more activity....
21:20 #Marinka @rjpthjuljytwr [ok.ru] booms begin
#Donetsk #Tekstilschik can hear heavy ones, W
21:25 #Makiivka @VasyaMakeevskiy Booms are heard coming from #Yakovlivka-#Mineralne direction. Machine gun bursts are heard too
21:30 #Yasynuvata @GirkinGirkin "Something landed near #Vorovskoho St, loud, very loud"
21:30 #Donetsk @rjpthjuljytwr [fb]
#Mariupol fork: far single powerful booms
#Moskva: active heavies for 20min so far, Direction: N, far off
Or it could be that the Kremlin believes that the decision has already been made and its aggressive moves are an attempt to change it...Quote:
Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
I believe that Putin was taken aback by the Ukrainian Revolution and that his overreaction in Crimea and Donbas has caused consternation in Russia's non-aligned neighbors.
Do you have a source for this? There is nothing on the NATO or SHAPE websites...Quote:
Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
1. that is the reason Putin is always seemingly underestimating the impact of his actions towards both Finland and Sweden...if you look at the internal polling two years ago done around the question of whether both societies wanted to join NATO...you would be surprised that the majority did not want to join but after two steady years of Russian threats, Russian nuclear strike exercises, Baltic MiG/SU over flights with their transponders off/darn near colliding with a SAS airliner on take off and harassment of the electrical power line laying ship in the Baltic that was linking Sweden to the Baltics...and virtually similar actions against Finland...then the Russians wonder why the public opinion swung against Putin..and for NATO membership...and this does not include the several spy sub adventures by the Naval Spetsnaz....Quote:
Originally Posted by Azor
We have seen the same public opinion swing develop in Ukraine where at during the Maidan....the public polling was showing extremely low numbers wanting to join NATO but after Crimea and the invasion of eastern Ukraine and two solid years of constant fighting the latest polling's show a 78% in favor of now joining and the Ukrainians are letting the UK know THEY are fighting physically to join the EU and push back on Russian military aggression....
Why would he be surprised by the sudden majority wanting to join NATO..if anyone is to blame it is Putin himself...
2. posted comment came as a breaking news out of Warsaw NATO meeting circles....does not surprise me in the least...was an intended leak to let Russia to understand this time around that NATO was taking a firm stand on a number of issues concerning Russia and her military......
If one thinks it through it is a normal and logical Command and Control move...in previous multi national AD exercises where say Patriots, THADD and the Israeli say Iron Domes are linked...it is always the field unit commander who makes the call on inbound missiles based on the standing long in advanced approved ROE.....rules of engagement.....BTW......these ROEs are actually already approved by the National Command Authorities of each nation that participates in the missile defense shield so I am not so sure why this public statement is of interest as it just cements current command reality....
BTW the decision making is very quick after ID of the inbound missiles.
Suspect this was a not so subtle warning concerning the current Russian fielded mobile nuclear capable tactical ballistic missiles and their upgraded versions which are now coming online...probably a very elegant way to negate the Russian stated first strike use of tactical nuclear missiles as a "de-escalation strike"......which they are fully capable of in fact hitting...
IMHO..this is exactly why Russia is voicing loudly their dislike.....NATO had offered Russia from the very beginning a chance to work with NATO inside the C&C centers to counter their fears...BUT it was Putin who backed away....NATO at Warsaw just reminded him of that fact.
Putin knows fully well that their strategic ICBMs shields are not in any way effected nor their second strike ICBMs......
What many in the US decision making circles need to urgently check are the ever growing actual number of nuclear warheads over the agreed to treaty numbers.....Russia is ever so quietly increasing them I think actually wanting to see if the US slams down on them but they know the Obama/Rhodes WH will never slam them....
Approximate frontline in #Avdiivka Industrial area #Promka
HD:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/jvce9x1m2jhd51f …
IF this is an accurate map and Russia & co. took the industrial complex east of Promka, the Minsk line shifts again.
Azor...will post something later today on this simple fact...Putin is deadly afraid of the "color revolts" and that is at the core of Georgia and Ukraine....why...it is exactly the Maidan events that scare him the most as Maidan showed to the Russians that they can in fact as a civil society throw off the massive Soviet style corruption and the oligarch system also a left over of the collapse of the SU....and that a civil society can in fact demand and fight for the rule of law, good governance and transparency.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Azor
Azor...this goes to the heart of why Putin always seems to not understand NATO nor the West in general.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Azor
Russian tabloid MK: Believing NATO battalions will protect Baltic from Russia "is like believing you can use a fly swat against a mad bear"
WHAT is missing from this statement by a Russian MSM propaganda outlet is the simple fact that it is not the numbers of troops that count BUT that that NATO BN being attacked inside a NATO member state.....
This NATO BN becomes the Article 5 "trip wire" thus triggering automatically Article 5 to go to war.....that is why Poland, and the Baltics want them there...it ensures them of NATO Article 5 support.
We saw this same thing during the Cold War on the inner German border...where the US Army Cavalry units both with their Cobras and ground armored mech units were constantly patrolling the inner German border ALL with the explicit knowledge that if the Soviets ever did cross over they were toast militarily speaking but their being engaged directly by Soviet troops triggered automatically NATO Article 5....and they were designed to initially to simply slow down the Soviet forces giving time for other units behind them to go to war status and get out of their bases and into defensive positions.
All NATO Cold War exercises until 1991 practiced this exact maneuver.....for example while the Cav units where being grind into the ground other NATO demo teams were destroying via prepared demo chambers all LOCs that could be used thus slowing down the Soviet Army also designed to give time for NATO to get into prepared defensive positions....all designed to hold the Rhine river as a natural defensive barrier....until the follow on of US and other NATO troops into the theater could arrive....that was the reasoning behind all the so called "Reforger" exercises.....
Many fail to remember that at the height of the Cold War say about 1975-80 there were over 450K NATO troops facing a Soviet Army plus Warsaw Pact forces of roughly the same number....
James J. Coyle: #Europe's forgotten war - fighting in the #Donbas has never stopped
http://bit.ly/29jKywl
Hundreds of explosions around #Donetsk and #Avdiivka. Force of fighting nr Debaltseve keeps @OSCE non-operational
Trade War: Putin steps on Ukrainian transit
http://www.unian.info/economics/1406...n-transit.html …
Nezav.Gaz: "Russia military thoroughly preparing for possible NATO attack..developing scenario by which Russia responds with nuclear strike"
Russian Military Drone Shot Down in Donbas
https://informnapalm.org/en/russian-...y-drone-donbas …
Trump adviser Carter Page praises China, Russia, hits US in Moscow speech
http://bloom.bg/29kWLRk
Sacramento hard core #Trump fascist is also a supporter of SS, Hezbollah, Assad and Putin. Natural combination.
Combined Rus-militant forces fired 56 times upon Ukr troops over the last day. 30 of the attacks were in Donetsk sector - ATO press centerQuote:
Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
Anything over 50 attacks a day is considered to be full scale warfare......this is no "Minsk 2 ceasefire" by any standards.....BUT WAIT we see the same thin in Syria...Assad declares a 72 hour regime of silence for Eid celebrations and just keeps right on bombing civilians....within minutes after the PR.....
Col. Lysenko: Yesterday, 2 UA soldiers KIA, 6 UA soldiers WIA, 2 more – in a land mine blast
http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/8-july-...ervicemen-were …
Col. Andriy Lysenko: Enemy losses: 7 militants killed & 9 – wounded in action
ATO spox: Jul 7, a local resident of Luhanske village, Donetsk region, got wounded at a land mine blast
ATO spokesperson: Militants applied 3 UAVs for reconnaissance in the Donetsk sector
Col. Andriy Lysenko: Yesterday, 25 enemy attacks at UA positions occurred in the Mariupol sector
ATO spox: Other hotspots in the Mariupol sector: Maryinka, Dokuchayevsk outskirts, Starohnativka
Col. Lysenko: Mariupol sector: militants shelled UA positions in Talakivka & Shyrokyne
Col. Andriy Lysenko: Yesterday, militants shelled UA positions in the northern outskirts of Horlivka for over 5 hours
ATO spox:Militants continue attempts of moving frontline near Avdiyivka to the west by actively shelling UA positions with mortars & cannons
Col. Lysenko: Most intensive enemy mortar shelling occurred near Luhanske village – 70 shells during 50 minutes
ATO spokesperson: Donetsk sector: mil situation remains most alarming: mortars are widely applied by the enemy
Col. Andriy Lysenko: Luhansk sector: For a single time, militants shelled UA positions in Popasna district
"Russia's aggression against Ukraine threatens our vision of a Europe that is whole, free and at peace," says Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
http://on.ft.com/29rBC6n
MFA Ukraine condemns Cyprus resolution on lifting Russian sanctions
http://www.unian.info/politics/14071...sanctions.html …
BUT WAIT....Cyprus is the center money laundering capital of the world from Russian "black money".
When they imposed bank restrictions when they were massively struggling with bank corruption that almost forced Cyprus into total bank collapse.......the only bank not affected by the Cyprus bank reforms which demanded they pass on 30% of their assets to the government was the single bank that dealth with the Russian oligarchs....
So not much of a surprise here...especially when Russia is trying to lease basing rights for their navy in Cyprus.....
'Hybrid Warfare a la Russe': Russian researcher to present book about Kremlin aggression
http://uatoday.tv/society/hybrid-war...on-690617.html …
Polish FM Waszczykowski at #NATOSummit: "Blah, blah, blah. We need Germany to understand strategic importance of eastern flank. Blah, blah."
Actually an important message from Poland to both the US and the Obama/Rhodes WH....
Poland FM: "Nobody misled Russia. Moscow was never promised imperial governance over its neighbors"
http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/8-july-...-russia-moscow …
What Putin is having a hard time with is that no one promised Russia a sphere of influence and or military sphere of influence when the Wall came down in 1991.....
PL’s FM #Waszczykowski quotes NATO's SekGen Spaak: To make peace w/ Russia is v. sound idea but there is a precondition: end occupation.
Albright at #WSEF16 - Putin cannot be provoked because he is the provocateur
http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/8-july-...ovoked-because …