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    Not so fast Stan... The following two quotes...

    Not so fast Stan...

    The following two quotes indicate that this is more likely just more talk about getting tough than actually doing so.



    I suggest what this indicates is that the political...
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    So they kill 2 of the 18 hostages on board but...

    So they kill 2 of the 18 hostages on board but what of the 17 pirates?
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    Look I'd have to do my homework on Somalia (to...

    Look I'd have to do my homework on Somalia (to see where it differs from the Africa I know) but I suggest that they are pretty "old testament" in their approach to life. Let that be the point of...
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    I suggest the commander will be given priorities...

    I suggest the commander will be given priorities and subject to a few factors on the ground would probably attempt to "secure" the hostages first (accepting that this will be more difficult if the...
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    If you speak to the navy they think blockade. The...

    If you speak to the navy they think blockade. The problem is that it is and expensive activity and there will always be loopholes that will be exploited.

    The current international problem is...
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    Depressing yes, surprising no.

    Depressing yes, surprising no.
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    I was thinking more along the lines of War...

    I was thinking more along the lines of War Tourism and to a lesser extent Extreme Tourism
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    Could be. I remember back to the days after...

    Could be. I remember back to the days after Victoria Falls town got mortared from Zambia when there was a increase in tourism (not massive) from yanks and Germans. Is there not a name for the people...
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    This is how you do it...

    Russian Cruise Companies May Be Offering Pirate Hunting Cruises
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    With the collapse of the state in Somalia 1991 it...

    With the collapse of the state in Somalia 1991 it is acknowledged that illegal dumping of hazardous waste off the coast of Somalia as well as illegal fishing took place.

    At this point we should...
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    I don't know. I would like to believe that at...

    I don't know. I would like to believe that at least some contentious issues get resolved by the politicians before someone needs to be shot. I asked Carl what he thought the qualifications of...
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    OK, I agree the history of dealing with this...

    OK, I agree the history of dealing with this particular piracy threat is bad. I also agree with what you suggest could have (and probably should have) been done.

    But lets deal with the now.
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    Good stuff Carl, agree 100%, saved me a few...

    Good stuff Carl, agree 100%, saved me a few replies.

    If a general needs 30 years experience and a bunch of courses with command experience at every level before he gets to command a small...
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    That sums it up pretty well. But your current...

    That sums it up pretty well. But your current solution appears to favour a political solution rather than a military one. Is that where you currently stand on this issue?
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    Ok, but while it would be easy to enact such...

    Ok, but while it would be easy to enact such legislation by process I suggest that to get all the G20 to do so in say... the next ten years would be well neigh impossible.

    Well it seems to me that...
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    From the same article. Isn't this interesting...

    From the same article. Isn't this interesting thinking:



    Yes, how dare the Indian navy be used to protect Indian shipping from the legitimate and understandable attentions of these Somali...
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    Hopefully it will encourage the Indian government...

    Hopefully it will encourage the Indian government to authorise their forces to take the action against pirates ashore. This may well be the turning point where the pirates have pushed their luck too...
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    There is only one response to a statement like...

    There is only one response to a statement like that and it is... Guantanamo.
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    Interesting. By which law is this?

    Interesting. By which law is this?
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    Then I suggest you find someone who has expressed...

    Then I suggest you find someone who has expressed such moral ambiguity and take it up with them.
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    This idea is worth consideration at a political...

    This idea is worth consideration at a political level. But while the G20 dither over this plan for the next 5-10 years I suggest some "military-style" contingency plans get worked through ;)

    In...
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    No reason to be confused. I summarised my...

    No reason to be confused.

    I summarised my position in post #440 of this thread. For more detail read through the applicable threads and all will be revealed.

    Note: check the date of the post...
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    So actually there is no sanctuary. Just that no...

    So actually there is no sanctuary. Just that no country (or coalition) has seen fit to seek the obvious land based solution to this problem.

    That you don't see the Somali based piracy as a...
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    Then humour me please. What does your following...

    Then humour me please. What does your following statement mean?

    "The invitation to discuss is extended to anyone who thinks that we should intervene against Somalia but for Ivory Coast and/or...
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    I suggest you need to revisit this assumption.

    I suggest you need to revisit this assumption.
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