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    My two cents

    I could pontificate on any number of these postings, but I've said more than my piece in many other places. All I'll say is--at the time--the MANEUVER WARFARE HANDBOOK was all we had that told us...
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    Will be there....

    I'll be interested to see how this shapes up--wargaming helping us understand future warfare/security challenges. Anybody been able to tackle so-called "hybrid warfare" in a game?
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    Tabletop wargame resources

    There are quite a variety of tabletop formats for wargaming, so you'll have to be a bit more specific.

    There are "seminar-style games" and the best most recent resource for that is the book...
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    Slap, I think some of this is cultural. That is,...

    Slap, I think some of this is cultural. That is, the Germans still had that "residue" (and I don't know what else to call it) from the era of Frederick the Great. That is, obedience--particularly...
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    Reed11b: I don't mind the nitpicking and we...

    Reed11b:

    I don't mind the nitpicking and we do this kind of stuff around here all the time--but I'd suggest we move it into another thread or do it via PM. It's hard enough keeping people on...
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    Entropy asks: While one can do that in the...

    Entropy asks:


    While one can do that in the plan/concept of the operation, it's very hard to design, equip, and train to do one and still do well at the other. And if you do, you probably need...
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    Leadership and MW--there is a difference

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    Whose definition of MW are we using (Leonhard's? USMC? Other?). And at what scale? Tarawa and Omaha can possibly be justified as MW cases at the operational level, even if they...
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    Tightening the OODA Loop and Asset Allocation

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    Because we Marines typically live hand-to-mouth, we've been pretty inventive and innovative in rigging field expedient means. I wish the institution was better at formalizing...
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    Tightening the OODA and decentralizing assets

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    When I was working the Counterinsurgency Targeting and ISR study for the Joint Center for Operational Analysis (JCOA) here in Joint Forces Command, we looked at much the same...
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    Recon Pull and Unity of Effort

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    That indeed is the difficulty with the concept--a good intent, a common understanding between element leaders of who or what the main effort is, and strong lateral communications are...
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    Changing the scenario

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    Tarawa is actually a terrific case of recon-pull. I could also cite Omaha Beach. When the whole plan went to hell, local leaders took charge and improvised solutions with what...
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    There is no recon pull in Soviet school MW

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    I will give you a different scenario later on. I wasn't thinking of Active Defense here, quite honestly. Certainly I see why you might.

    The difference between the above and...
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    Functional Utility of Recon Pull--Leonhard's Caveat

    Reed11b writes about the utility of recon-pull:



    Okay, at the risk of completely hijacking this thread into a detailed discussion of reconnaissance-pull, I've simply got to address this...
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    Recon Pull a function of battlefield troop density?

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    I will argue that recon-pull was adopted at an extremely decentralized level BECAUSE of higher troop densities and "less maneuver space" in Western Europe. What space...
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    Soviet School Maneuver Warfare?

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    Probably can't articulate a better example of the Soviet School MW perspective than this, although it also applies to the Attrition style of warfare. What betrays Wilf's...
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    Differentiating reconnaissance pull

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    Not at all. One can find and exploit opportunity without recon-pull. It's just slower. Reconnaissance pull means that your picket line/recon screen/forward elements find the...
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    Challenge to MW Essential Premise #2--Part 3

    Challenge: If one admits that the OODA Loop concept does apply to aggregates of entities fighting aggregates of entities (i.e., it is indeed valid), how can one know that one is being effectively...
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    Challenge to MW Essential Premise #2--Part 2

    Challenge: What makes us think the OODA Loop concept—if we believe it works to explain single entity versus single entity conflict—can apply to understanding aggregates of entities fighting...
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    Challenge to MW Essential Premise #2--Part 1

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    Challenge: If the OODA Loop concept was originally designed to explain how the F-86 could generate a higher and better tempo in “fast transients” against a MiG-15 in a Korean War...
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    Challenge to MW Essential Premise #2--Part 3

    Challenge: If one admits that the OODA Loop concept does apply to aggregates of entities fighting aggregates of entities (i.e., it is indeed valid), how can one know that one is being effectively...
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    Challenge to MW Essential Premise #2--Part 2

    Challenge: What makes us think the OODA Loop concept—if we believe it works to explain single entity versus single entity conflict—can apply to understanding aggregates of entities fighting...
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    Challenge to MW Essential Premise #2--Part 1

    To recap:



    Challenge: If the OODA Loop concept was originally designed to explain how the F-86 could generate a higher and better tempo in “fast transients” against a MiG-15 in a Korean War...
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    Challenges to MW Essential Premise #1

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    So here are the quibbles/challenges to this idea and the USMC Maneuver Warfare doctrinal responses:

    Challenge: Speed alone is not enough. Even speed with focus means little if...
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    Ken White wrote: Exactly so.

    Ken White wrote:


    Exactly so.
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    Challenges to MW Essential Premise #1

    To recap:



    So here are the quibbles/challenges to this idea and the USMC Maneuver Warfare doctrinal responses:

    Challenge: Speed alone is not enough. Even speed with focus means little if...
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