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    I spend a lot of time playing with weapons...

    I spend a lot of time playing with weapons optics. To discuss it seriously you need to talk specifics. "Red-dots" for example may have no magnification power what so ever.

    What you have from the...
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    I think I am safe to say that I was pretty...

    I think I am safe to say that I was pretty familiar with the content of that article before it was published, though I place no claim as to authorship! :D
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    Don't need to read it. I spend a lot of time...

    Don't need to read it. I spend a lot of time pointing out why what in the manual is complete rubbish. Most of what is wrong today is because of what is written in the manual.

    Siting a FOB is...
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    ...and what standard defensive principle would...

    ...and what standard defensive principle would those be?

    A FOB is a facility from which to mount operations, and the location itself may provide operational advantages, such as surveillance of a...
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    The "little forts" in Helmand are FOBs. - Patrol...

    The "little forts" in Helmand are FOBs. - Patrol Bases. I was referring to the conduct of defence in combat operations. Two entirely different conditions.
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    Just some rather obvious things to consider. ...

    Just some rather obvious things to consider.

    a.) Reverse slope is only relative to one direction of enemy threat.
    b.) What reverse slope actually means is not positioning your defensive position...
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    B*stard!! Oh thanks mate..... Now I'll never get...

    B*stard!! Oh thanks mate..... Now I'll never get any work done. How I didn't know about this, I cannot fathom!

    ...load up the printer.... it's going to be a long night! :D
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    What you "wish" is actually the debate. That's...

    What you "wish" is actually the debate. That's what the discussion has been focussed on. BUT- the issues come down to rigourous operational analysis, and feed back from theatre.
    Having had a...
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    Well good luck to the man carrying it. At best...

    Well good luck to the man carrying it.
    At best it's a poor-mans DMR and probably not a very good one either because the ammunition is probably of very poor quality the barrel's gone to rats, with...
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    So lots of .303 SMLE are being encountered in...

    So lots of .303 SMLE are being encountered in Theatre?
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    Not sure I understand. Locating the enemy...

    Not sure I understand.
    Locating the enemy "battle Drill 3" in the old days has always been about the single most challenging aspect of dismounted operations. Once you've located him, 50-80% of your...
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    Well that's strangely similar to, "standard...

    Well that's strangely similar to, "standard really has to be the minimum acceptable, and the standard the equates to what can be achieved and maintained in terms of time and money".

    For Rifle or...
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    I believe we do. You may be right. The real...

    I believe we do.


    You may be right. The real issue is that standard really has to be the minimum acceptable, and the standard the equates to what can be achieved and maintained in terms of time...
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    The problem is what to select. What standard do...

    The problem is what to select. What standard do you want, that is relevant to operations?
    IMO, and in my day -the British Army actually wasted a vast amount of money, doing range training that did...
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    The 3-4 days on the range is just to get him...

    The 3-4 days on the range is just to get him ready to go and do field firing and actual applications of fire. He's safe, and he has a measurable standard on which to build.

    ...and the standard...
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    I think I agree, if you are saying that being a...

    I think I agree, if you are saying that being a good shot on the range has almost nothing to do with shooting stressful operational conditions.

    Again, I think I agree, but the debate that I have...
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    Some context may help here. That is the standard...

    Some context may help here.
    That is the standard to basic British Army SASC FSR standard, dating from the 1890's. It is believed to have been based on game shooting standards used to qualify guest...
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    Well there's a difference between "grouping" and...

    Well there's a difference between "grouping" and "hand-held" dispersion. Grouping is usually done in relation to "zeroing" but it has very obvious relevance to the effective range that you can...
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    Not sure anyone has ever gathered the data, but...

    Not sure anyone has ever gathered the data, but we know from field trials that soldiers with effective optic sights hit more targets at greater range then without.


    There is a massive amount of...
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    Extensive testing, and extensive operational...

    Extensive testing, and extensive operational experience. It basically the most effective thing you can do to enhance a weapon. The British Army could have block issued an optic sight in 1976, but it...
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    I cannot say I do. I think he and Liddell-Hart...

    I cannot say I do. I think he and Liddell-Hart did immense damage to the British Army. I've just given up with reading and re-reading Naveh. His work has, IMO, little or no contribution to military...
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    Research is carried out. I,personally have spent...

    Research is carried out. I,personally have spent a great deal of the last 8 years doing it, and talking to those who do it. That's my opinion based on research, and how far back? Based on data, since...
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    March and shoot qualifying times haven't changed,...

    March and shoot qualifying times haven't changed, in some 35 years, and they didn't even formally exist until the mid 1970's. Details alter but the basics have all stayed the same.
    ...and I really...
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    Well I cannot speak for the US, but the UK...

    Well I cannot speak for the US, but the UK infantry are probably just as fit and just as robust as in past times. The same is probably true for their shooting.

    ..... but there are a number of...
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    I fully concur that it is a skill that would have...

    I fully concur that it is a skill that would have application in more regular warfare. Our "ideal" target was enemy bridging or ferry sites, to try and disrupt work rates etc - but it does require a...
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