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So what you are saying is that the media creates the political will to act. It did that in Victorian times.
Politically relevant. Not militarily effective.

There have never been any solely...

Concur. Apology if I seemed unreasonable - not my intent.


a.) Who is still in Power?
b.) Was it that she was killed, or that the killing was filmed?
c.) There is virtually none/if any live...

If it's not war, why are we worried? Only wars can effectively set forth policy using violence. The lesson of 911 is that it didn't work. More US troops now in the ME than when he started and AQ is...

I think this question is very germane to the issue under discussion.

Apologies. I just assumed the spelling was for the constellation - Ursa Major - Maj, and me having studied Latin for 8 years! My mistake.


Cannot speak for the Fulda Gap. My turf was the 1 BR...

UrsaMajor:

Going round in circles here, because I am clearly not explaining myself in my answers.

a.) All I do and write is predicated on that fact I think we (US and UK) need a good deal of...

Sorry, I don't understand the question.


It's not a presumption. It's not an issue of competency per se. It's an issue of evidence. When has NATO or the US fought a true peer competitor, since...

OK, but when has this ever not been blindingly obvious? It is very raison d'etre of Irregular Forces.


Again obvious - and it also side steps the very debatable idea that the US and NATO are...

OK, but NOTHING here is new. It's a re-stating of a 30-year-old fact bar the part that the NK are now less than convinced about their efficacy of their armour. Wow? Who saw that coming. This is...

a.) Call me Wilf - quicker to write.

b.) My hubris may well have caused me to be less than adequate with my elucidation of Ways and means versus Who and where.
The distinction I am attempting to...

Again the ways and means, not who and where. North Vietnam, conducted an insurgency in South Vietnam, to replace the existing government. The PLO had similar ambitions. Insurgency is merely a tool,...

Well this pertains to my "ways and means" and not who and where. What insurgency is occurring within the UK?

Whoah there boyo. I know both Lind and Hammes. I cannot speak for all here, but I am firmly against, Manoeuvre Warfare and 4GW. In no way do I hold any contempt or disdain for either man. I think...

Well we could put in another way, and that is these pictures became emblematic of US Strategic failure, but I can't see how a picture of very minor tactical actions can inflate the worth of the...

You can't go on being a Guards officer if you start making incisive and intelligent observations like that! Rupert and Tarquin will get very miffed!

....but yes, this is the nature of the debate....

Coldstreamer me old mate,

From ADP LAND OPERATIONS Page 4-5


THIS IS UK DOCTRINE!
So, a goofed tactical action - bombing a UN kindergarten - is only a goof if it creates lasting and decisive...

Hi Bob! My name is Wilf and I'm not a strategist, and even if I was I could give up anytime. I just choose not to... :wry:

Strategy to me is the practical conduct/expression of your foreign...

I have to say that this is what I take from the paper, I have now read. It is a pure Gray classic.
In Israel there simply is no "Airpower debate". Freedom to employ the air environment is just...

Thanks for the support, but I fear there is only one seat in my Kamikaze!
My concern is the same. Not all insurgencies are the same, not all insurgents are the same.


Sorry, but idea of the...

OK, now DL'd the document and it turns out to be one other than I thought! :o
I assumed I head read it... but apparently I have not even seen it before.

I'll be back!

Damn straight, and the reason is simple. An Insurgency is armed military force. Therefore it requires armed military force to prevent it gaining it's political objectives by military means.
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...and here we go again...

Do you think those that created the Genocide in Rwanda could have used the internet to create it? ...or was Government Radio a better choice?

If you are telling me...

My reading of the document concerned gives a very clear indication of the limitations of air power and how it's advocates have consistently fallen foul of reality.

It's men like Colin Gray that...

Agreed, but it does mean that when the Brits make observations about COIN, they come with a great deal more informed judgement than from other armies.

Maybe a valid opinion, but there is a flip...

So what you are saying is that there is a political dimension to all forms of warfare.


OK, but we always did realise it. We are extremely good at realising it. There is no debate and it is not...