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    Almost incapable insurgents may provide years for...

    Almost incapable insurgents may provide years for trial & error, but modern land war is quick. Days or weeks suffice to break a medium-sized army. It has been like that for centuries, actually.

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    Who did it? kaur and I discussed tactical...

    Who did it?

    kaur and I discussed tactical indirect fire missiles such as Netfires, Lahat or Nimrod.

    The employment of LAHAT in a direct fire role from this kind of vulnerable vehicle would be...
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    The actual count of "Stinger" kills in AFG was...

    The actual count of "Stinger" kills in AFG was rather moderate, especially if seen in context of the county's size and the time period. Their effect was almost entirely a repulsion effect. The...
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    I remember that even sling, bow, catapult and...

    I remember that even sling, bow, catapult and crossbow projectiles are typically called "missiles" in literature...
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    It depends. It's just a piece of hardware. Not...

    It depends.

    It's just a piece of hardware. Not all will be fired, not all fired missiles will hit. Not all terrains are suitable for their employment. Hardware-based protection is just as possible...
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    A wheeled motorised infantry battle group with...

    A wheeled motorised infantry battle group with the greatest possible diversity of calibres and a large diversity of vehicles. Whoever invented this scheme didn't grasp the idea of commonality,...
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    Assuming it's still the old course correction...

    Assuming it's still the old course correction stuff:

    1. radar tracks projectile/rocket
    2. computer predicts miss, calculates required correction
    3. radio tells projectile to brake
    4. projectile...
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    Netfires is dead because of its idiotic costs and...

    Netfires is dead because of its idiotic costs and technical incompetence of its developer.

    http://defensetech.org/2010/04/23/army-cancels-nlos-ls-missile-system/#axzz0lx7cXmIU
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    Dunno, but I suspect there's a general problem...

    Dunno, but I suspect there's a general problem with non line of sight fire optic guided missiles with infrared seekers.
    All such projects seem to die.

    An EuroSpike engineer claimed to me that the...
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    It's too expensive because of the multi-mode...

    It's too expensive because of the multi-mode seeker. That was known in advance. I've always said it's too expensive. :cool:
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    That photo was done AFTER the decision, after the...

    That photo was done AFTER the decision, after the breakthrough - south of the city. Terrain is almost irrelevant at that point.

    Yet, it shows that even in that flat region there was little hope of...
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    Do you expect the Russians to fight like the...

    Do you expect the Russians to fight like the Israelis of 2006? Even the Israelis of 2009 wouldn't do that.

    Why should we emphasize the lessons of the South Ossetian War? It looked A LOT like WW2...
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    WW2 is a better base for thought than Israel's...

    WW2 is a better base for thought than Israel's meddling with paramilitaries in regard to Baltic defence, Kaur.
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    Why would you care about weight if you don't...

    Why would you care about weight if you don't intend to move it much?
    The price is much more important.

    A container full of missiles is expensive enough to actually force an army to use it only at...
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    120mm mortar minimum range is more like 400 m. ...

    120mm mortar minimum range is more like 400 m.

    105mm guns can usually be used in direct fire (some even have shields), so minimum range is not really an applicable concept unless you need to...
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    I've got a concept in mind -...

    I've got a concept in mind - technologies/concepts creep inside the armed services from big/heavy/expensive to compact/light/cheap and become useful to more and more units and lower levels of...
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    Merlin had mm wavelength radar. Wilf, I listed...

    Merlin had mm wavelength radar.
    Wilf, I listed the three munition as most well-known guided examples. They are really well-known, while many other munitions (some of which in service) are almost...
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    Yes, on the 10th page. I get an automatic...

    Yes, on the 10th page.

    I get an automatic redirect to google.de.
    (I enter the search at .com and get a result page like this:...
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    You cheated by adding "120mm" to your search ;) ...

    You cheated by adding "120mm" to your search ;)

    I attempted to recover the table in .htm that I remembered with several google searches and found almost exclusively U.S.-related results.
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    Wilf, there are dozens of projects - and have...

    Wilf, there are dozens of projects - and have been since many years.
    The today American PGMM effort has its roots in a German 120mm LG bomb project of the 80's and is the best known (together with...
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    It seems to be a redundant and therefore...

    It seems to be a redundant and therefore unnecessary program to me as well.
    The mode of operation (launch from possibly even unattended containers) seems to be a NCW concept from a clean sheet, not...
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    That doesn't mean much. The South Ossetia War...

    That doesn't mean much.
    The South Ossetia War was a 1960's war apparently. Pretty much all modern technology could have had a huge impact if applied properly in that conflict.

    The primary lesson...
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    *confused* Do you mean "Where does this PGMM...

    *confused*

    Do you mean "Where does this PGMM being more expensive then PAM..."?
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    155mm is better represented by systems like...

    155mm is better represented by systems like PzH2000, M109A6 or Caesar than by the specialty gun M777.

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    Let's wait for what happens about the DPICM / cluster / dumb submunitions / explosive...
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