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    As we are stuck on semantics, no.

    Hi Ken,

    Sorry I can't buy the premise that all organized violence is "instrumental" minus violent acts that might be "recreational" in nature, though "fun" per se cannot be excluded as a byproduct...
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    Defining "instrumentality"

    Hi Wilf & Ken,

    My problem with your answers is the implicit breadth of your concept of what the word "instrumental" means in this context, which seems to be all violent actions north of an...
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    hmm

    Wilf Owen wrote:

    "People do not take up arms for fun. Violence is instrumental, not recreational"

    Instrumental for some. States, for example.

    Arguably "recreational violence" is an end in...
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    The German disease...

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    There must have been something in the water in Germany to produce such a large body of philosophers whose thinking powers were inverse to their writing skills. Clausewitz is far from the worst...
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    Errr....

    I'm pretty sure that Art Cebrowski never put it that way and that he was primarily ( and sensibly) concerned with systemically maximizing a comparative advantage in high tech possessed by the United...
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