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    Somebody say Amen!

    Somebody say Amen!
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    In 1997 the USAWC published a study by retired...

    In 1997 the USAWC published a study by retired Col.'s Mendel and Munger which had broad impact in LE circles called Strategic Planning and the Drug Threat. In the study they teach a framework for LE...
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    Ski I would agree with you about how IO...

    Ski I would agree with you about how IO operations are currently being conducted, but that doesn't mean we should not be learning how to use them. Are enemies are very good at it, and I think we...
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    Ski, Ring #4 Population groups deals with just...

    Ski, Ring #4 Population groups deals with just the subject you are talking about, how to effect groups with non-lethal means. Largely through what we are calling IO operations. Also Col. Warden was...
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    Outstanding!!! This is exactly why I believe EBO...

    Outstanding!!! This is exactly why I believe EBO is more applicable to COIN warfare than most people give it credit for.
    1- if no COG exists create one!!!!and this may be the greatest opportunity ...
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    Absolutely agree..Col. Warden defined them as the...

    Absolutely agree..Col. Warden defined them as the point of GREATEST leverage on the system.
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    Rant Some More

    Bill,Tom, I have read Galula and unless my memory is that bad he stated that there were 4! primary factors.
    1-A cause
    2-Weak government.
    3-Terrain
    4-Outside help.
    That would indicate at least...
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    Jed, what are your thoghts on this article? For...

    Jed, what are your thoghts on this article? For that matter anybody else that would like to jump in here?
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    Lastdingo, didn't Clausewitz talk about war of...

    Lastdingo, didn't Clausewitz talk about war of limited objectives? Do you think he was talking about small wars in that context. Briefly I remember sections where he talks about seizing a vital...
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    Troufion, agree 100% that is why I said a long...

    Troufion, agree 100% that is why I said a long time ago before you got here that the LE concept of Motive,Means,and Opportunity is a better way to think about Guerilla warfare Strategy then the...
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    Milan N. Vego

    Professor vego wrote an article in new JFQ edition that has a bearing on this discussion.

    His Opinion COG=Schwerpunkt which= Point of main emphasis.

    Here is the link....
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    Reading my mind

    Jed, you are dead on it. Displacement may not be a center of gravity, but it is one of, if not the most important concept in LE and COIN. I was going to write about this in the application of the...
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    the Other Holy Trinity

    This is little off track but maybe useful. In police world we use the problem/crime or disorder triangle. That is our Holy Trinity. They could also be thought of as centers of gravity. I will try to...
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    RTK, maybe change area of influence to point of...

    RTK, maybe change area of influence to point of influence? I think one purpose of defining a COG is to allow concentration, area seems to broad, point seems more focused?? What do you think? Anybody...
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    What if you defined a COG as a person,place,or...

    What if you defined a COG as a person,place,or thing that can exert power over the system?
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    RTK, great paper thanks for posting.

    RTK, great paper thanks for posting.
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    Question for anyone who wants to take a shot

    What is the defeat mechanism we should use to win?
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    Bubba wants you to know

    Dear RTK,
    Bubba wants you to know "he ain't got no neighbors" He don't live on know block neither, he has a trailer like all regular folks does.
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    Several of you have just given good explinations...

    Several of you have just given good explinations of what EBO realy is. Our enemy understands it better then we do. Specifically you are talking about Col. Wardens ring #4 connection to population...
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    Stealth People and the Center of Gravity

    Yes, I believe it does. The definition of COG I like best came from a Navy article I once read. The quote may be imprecise but it described a COG as something you take away from the enemy so he...
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