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    Don't mean to be a pedant, but you can't argue a...

    Don't mean to be a pedant, but you can't argue a violation of Geneva in one post and then make an analogy to civil law in the next. It's not even internally consistent. Similarly, I find...
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    Thank you as well. I think I understand better...

    Thank you as well. I think I understand better both where you're coming from and my own mind as well, which is one of the happy results of hashing out things like this . . . and it's no sin to agree...
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    I didn't find it very useful. I'd already seen...

    I didn't find it very useful. I'd already seen all the "context" it pointed out, and the claims of editing are fairly weak, since WL provided the full video (and I mostly ignored the inflammatory WL...
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    I think that sums up the distinction quite well...

    I think that sums up the distinction quite well (i.e., I think they're combatants, you don't). I would dispute the issue being primarily that of proximity (i.e., they're not just crossing the street...
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    So if the combat cameraman ditches his sidearm...

    So if the combat cameraman ditches his sidearm he's protected? Recce pilots? How about a MG a-gunner or tank driver? Obviously not; they're combatants. They bring sidearms along because there's...
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    In my opinion, using a SciFi flick adapted from a...

    In my opinion, using a SciFi flick adapted from a comic book as a cultural reference really doesn't add. And I think logical arguments are more impressive than armchair psychoanalysis.



    I've...
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    That's my view in a nutshell. As a retired...

    That's my view in a nutshell. As a retired attack aviator (Marine) and FAC in GWI, I've seen worse mistakes by well-meaning idiots (a couple far worse) and feel the major lasting issue here is the...
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    Do you any evidence that your version of events...

    Do you any evidence that your version of events is more than wishful thinking?

    Seriously, the problem with the innocent explanation is that two RPG-7s were discovered at the scene. The...
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    Yes, but if fellow combatants recover their...

    Yes, but if fellow combatants recover their wounded, they are legitimate targets. That is precisely what the witness statements in the investigation claimed here, and the most reasonable...
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    How about "escaping"? And your persistence in...

    How about "escaping"? And your persistence in assuming the people in the van are civilians is hardly convincing. The speed with which they arrived on the scene, despite generally deserted streets,...
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    You seem to think there is some universal...

    You seem to think there is some universal definition of self-defense that applies equally in a war zone during a firefight or in a civilian situation. There isn't. The insurgents were not...
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    Totally inapt. This isn't a backyard outing,...

    Totally inapt. This isn't a backyard outing, it's a wartime engagement in which the convoy in question had already been fired upon. This group of insurgents had offensive weapons, were obviously...
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    Nonsense. The recovered photo shows the US...

    Nonsense. The recovered photo shows the US convoy in easy range of the RPG. The Apache crew thought the camera was an RPG, but the actual RPG could've looked around the corner and fired in a matter...
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    The guys with the RPG and AKM are obviously...

    The guys with the RPG and AKM are obviously combatants, as are the guys supporting them. The Apache guy mistook the camera for another RPG, which is both understandable and doesn't materially change...
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