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    Can we start killing these guys/gals now?

    Can we start killing these guys/gals now?
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    We need an answer to this if cyberspace is going...

    We need an answer to this if cyberspace is going to be credibly dubbed a "warfighting" domain.
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    Defense and Offense are different and...

    Defense and Offense are different and simultaneous. Parallel, but interlocked efforts. That is probably what makes this a unique warfighting domain.
  4. At least the 82d Chorus is relatively small and...

    At least the 82d Chorus is relatively small and low impact. I'm talking big expenditures like the Army Soldier Show - talk about a drain on resources!

    BJP
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    Gents: we need some intellectual honesty and...

    Gents: we need some intellectual honesty and parameters in this debate.

    Are we talking about this topic in broad and academic terms, unconstrained by actual policy? Clearly two correspondents...
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    So, all you've done is say, that cyberspace...

    So, all you've done is say, that cyberspace operations are another dimension of the physical domains. Using your thought process, if I shoot an ICBM, the missle is the "domain" that just happens to...
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    If cyberspace isn't a "place" then where are we...

    If cyberspace isn't a "place" then where are we fighting? This global commons/contested commons argument loses some steam when you remember that nation-states do regulate use of the electromagnetic...
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    You can't think "outside the box" if you don't...

    You can't think "outside the box" if you don't know where the box is. You need doctrine if for no other reason than to have either a point of departure or something to ignore.

    Also, for the less...
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    It's been with us because the zealots want to...

    It's been with us because the zealots want to have it both ways..use "cyber" in a sentence and feel manly by saying "war"... :D
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    A mentor of mine sent this to me and I thought it...

    A mentor of mine sent this to me and I thought it was worth sharing...just to keep things in perspective...

    It's War!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyeKYQdYISg
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    All "asymmetry" means is not taking on an...

    All "asymmetry" means is not taking on an adversary they way that adversary battles you. If you saw the movie "Tin Cup", the protagonist challenges an opponent to a golf round using only garden...
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    Until it's in JP 1-02 and explained via a stand...

    Until it's in JP 1-02 and explained via a stand alone Joint Pub (e.g. JP 3-12), it would be just another opinion, however well researched.

    Right now, JP 1-02 does not even fully recognize...
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    Up until cyberspace was declared a separate...

    Up until cyberspace was declared a separate domain, the answer was "nothing". "Cyber" was covered under "Computer Network Operations" part of IO doctrine. The designation of this domain has truly...
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    Lets bear in mind...although there is an "air...

    Lets bear in mind...although there is an "air domain" both the maritime and land domains do claim a portion of the air above them for their operations as well. Further, there is almost always...
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    Again, without a cogent definition of "cyber"...

    Again, without a cogent definition of "cyber" this is a moot exercise.

    I know...broken record....but just putting a word in front of another doesn't not necessarily modify.
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    No. Command and Control means "command and...

    No. Command and Control means "command and control". Otherwise the Air Force wouldn't have changed all their Comms folks into "Cyber Warriors".

    Seriously? Literally means? Where is the...
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    I keep asking and it never gets an answer: ...

    I keep asking and it never gets an answer:

    What does "cyber" mean?

    If cyberspace is a domain, then we should be able to describe cogently what is meant by a cyber (sic) "war".

    Wouldn't...
  18. I'm not going to fight the birther fight here. ...

    I'm not going to fight the birther fight here. The response does amplify my larger point. It is not settled satisfactorily; instead it is festering. Some surmise that it serves a political purpose...
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    Yes. Number one qualification for martyrdom is...

    Yes. Number one qualification for martyrdom is death. That's a good start.




    Cannot agree with you here at all. These people are threatened directly because of the work they do at the...
  20. I am a reasonably intelligent man and not easily...

    I am a reasonably intelligent man and not easily swayed by hyperbole. I had a great deal of difficulty believing the claim. But two plus years later, it's still hanging out there. So it makes...
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    At what point are kinetics on the table? ...

    At what point are kinetics on the table?

    Seems to me that both Morrell or Barnes have a right to self defense, and that, by extension the US Gov't has a duty to vigorously find and defeat this...
  22. The media is confusing various aspects of the...

    The media is confusing various aspects of the military? Really? This is news?

    Most of those cats don't know the difference between a squad and a batallion. We expect them to understand the...
  23. US General Accused of Using "Psyop" on Americans in AFG

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/another-runaway-general-army-deploys-psy-ops-on-u-s-senators-20110223?page=1

    This is going to be a mess. Or an awful lot of fun.

    BJP
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    That, sir, is the spot-on question. Especially...

    That, sir, is the spot-on question. Especially so, considering the listed slate of speakers. Curious how they are properly credentialed to answer so specific a question (like "DOD").

    Yes, with a...
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    (Emphasis added) To properly address this, I...

    (Emphasis added)

    To properly address this, I would offer that it would have to be a Cabinet level position on par with State, DOD, etc. "Cyberspace" either transcends all the other domains (since...
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