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    Mackinlay's Perspective

    From John Macklinay's book Insurgent Archipelago he describes the components of current insurgencies post-Cold War on page 4 and 5 as

    Later, on pg 223 he goes on to describe insurgency as
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    New Kalyvas Article

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    Just received a new paper from Dr. Kalyvas at Yale and Laia Balcells at the Institute for Economic Analysis entitled "International System and Technologies of Rebellion: How the End of the...
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    Some evidence

    Yes, but...to what end?

    As highlighted in this article from the Christian Science Monitor...
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    Another perspective

    From The Dictionary of Modern War by Luttwak and Koehl, circa 1991:



    Using the current situation in Afghanistan as a case study, it would appear to me that Taliban is fighting for all of the...
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    Mike- Once again thanks for correcting me. What I...

    Mike- Once again thanks for correcting me. What I meant was Bonn, not Oslo. Germany, Norway, same same.
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    Applicable to Afghanistan too

    The same can be said of Afghanistan with the Taliban. Instead of incorporating them into any sort of power sharing agreement, they were intentionally excluded from the Oslo (Correction, BONN, thanks...
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    Mike- I thought I had explained my intentions...

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    I thought I had explained my intentions somewhat coherently in post #15. If that doesn't meet the mail, then I apologize for wasting your time. I certainly was not intending on having you...
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    Shout out to JMM99

    Thank you for the correction, not quite sure how that extra a got in there. Sorry to disappoint on not answering your questions. Isn't the discussion stimulating enough to entice you continue to...
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    paradigm shift

    Slapout,
    Understanding where your coming from is helpful. Do you think it still applies to the insurgencies that we are seeing today. Out of the numerous long term insurgencies since the fall of...
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    In his article entitled “What is Civil War?...

    In his article entitled “What is Civil War? Conceptual and Empirical Complexities of an Operational Definition,” Dr. Samabanis provides a distinctive and useful definition of civil war. The essence...
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    The form, function, and tactics employed in an...

    The form, function, and tactics employed in an insurgency are what typically qualify it in some manner as one of the many terms we hear applied to it. Thus, if the purpose of the insurgency is to...
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    That is very similar to the question I asked him...

    That is very similar to the question I asked him back. He implies that there is some connection to the amount of popular support. He has not responded back to me yet. Could it have something to do...
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    All- some more to chew on. This came from Dr....

    All- some more to chew on. This came from Dr. Sambanis at Yale who is also a leading civil war scholar who has worked with Drs. Collier and Hoeffler on multiple projects. He wrote "A reasonable way...
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    So the introduction of an (outside the state)...

    So the introduction of an (outside the state) third party would help to distinguish an insurgency from a civil war. Otherwise, any number of parties inside a state fighting for control over the...
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    Sir- Your explanation again takes me back to a...

    Sir- Your explanation again takes me back to a sliding scale of violence in conflict. With steps along the way. With insurgency residing somewhere near the bottom, and civil war higher on the steps...
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    Sir- Is insurgency really a strategy, or is it...

    Sir- Is insurgency really a strategy, or is it more just a tactic in the conduct of war? Maybe an operational approach in the broader context? Probably just confusing myself.

    For me it seems like...
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    Bob- Would you say that these root conditions are...

    Bob- Would you say that these root conditions are the same for either civil war or insurgency? Or are there different conditions that lead to different forms of warfare. I imagine that the initial...
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    Rex, very interesting thread. Do you think you...

    Rex, very interesting thread. Do you think you could possibly expand on the idea of control some? In the context you are using the word control, control of or over what? Not trying to nail you down...
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    Based on a lot of the recent discussion is there...

    Based on a lot of the recent discussion is there a need to distinguish between the political and military aspects of conflict. Could it be as simple as saying that civil war is primarily a military...
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    JP 3-0 (2008): Operational level of war. The...

    JP 3-0 (2008): Operational level of war. The level of war at which campaigns and major operations are planned, conducted, and sustained to achieve strategic objectives within theaters or other...
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    Personal Interest Explained

    Since there seems to be some issue with why I am looking for a distinction between insurgency and civil war, please allow me to illuminate.

    1. I find the lack of coherent difference between the...
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    The most immediate example I can think of is the...

    The most immediate example I can think of is the disposition and composition of the ANSF in Afghanistan. If we say that we are conducting a COIN strategy in Afghanistan then should force levels not...
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    I agree wholeheartedly with your statement. At...

    I agree wholeheartedly with your statement. At the tactical level, where the rubber meets the road, all war is war. However, I would argue that at the operational and strategic level there is...
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    Rex- Did you truly mean to say that civil war is...

    Rex-
    Did you truly mean to say that civil war is a subset of insurgency, or did you mean that insurgency is a subset of civil war? Your example 1 would lead me to believe that there is scale of...
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    Insurgency vs. Civil War

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    I am looking for some assistance trying to differentiate between insurgencies and civil wars. I have already read most of the literature on the benchmarks necessary to meet the international...
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