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Jedburgh,

If I have an agenda it is only to explore the issue more fully and to ask relevant questions to those who possess significant operational experience.

I acknowledge your point about...

Given the discussion I'd break down the question into two parts:

Is torture effective at gettting the information you want?
Is torture effective at the strategic level - winning hearts and minds?

Looks like there are two questions here:

Is torture effective?

Is torture wrong?

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On question one how do you all know torture isn't effective if none of you have done it?

Interesting.

There has been an on-going debate between these two fellows on how to defeat Islamicism:

Robert Spencer, Jihadwatch.org
Spengler, Asia Times

R. Spencer seems to argue for the...

I've read this article. The primary problem seems to be that Clauswitz deals with States as primary actors and Van Creveld and others (Lind, Robb, Peters, etc.) acknowledge that we are moving in a...

On-going discussion with author John Robb on this website:


http://www.dunedain.net/bravenewwar/