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    We need an answer to this if cyberspace is going...

    We need an answer to this if cyberspace is going to be credibly dubbed a "warfighting" domain.
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    Defense and Offense are different and...

    Defense and Offense are different and simultaneous. Parallel, but interlocked efforts. That is probably what makes this a unique warfighting domain.
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    Gents: we need some intellectual honesty and...

    Gents: we need some intellectual honesty and parameters in this debate.

    Are we talking about this topic in broad and academic terms, unconstrained by actual policy? Clearly two correspondents...
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    So, all you've done is say, that cyberspace...

    So, all you've done is say, that cyberspace operations are another dimension of the physical domains. Using your thought process, if I shoot an ICBM, the missle is the "domain" that just happens to...
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    If cyberspace isn't a "place" then where are we...

    If cyberspace isn't a "place" then where are we fighting? This global commons/contested commons argument loses some steam when you remember that nation-states do regulate use of the electromagnetic...
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    You can't think "outside the box" if you don't...

    You can't think "outside the box" if you don't know where the box is. You need doctrine if for no other reason than to have either a point of departure or something to ignore.

    Also, for the less...
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    It's been with us because the zealots want to...

    It's been with us because the zealots want to have it both ways..use "cyber" in a sentence and feel manly by saying "war"... :D
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    A mentor of mine sent this to me and I thought it...

    A mentor of mine sent this to me and I thought it was worth sharing...just to keep things in perspective...

    It's War!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyeKYQdYISg
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    All "asymmetry" means is not taking on an...

    All "asymmetry" means is not taking on an adversary they way that adversary battles you. If you saw the movie "Tin Cup", the protagonist challenges an opponent to a golf round using only garden...
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    Until it's in JP 1-02 and explained via a stand...

    Until it's in JP 1-02 and explained via a stand alone Joint Pub (e.g. JP 3-12), it would be just another opinion, however well researched.

    Right now, JP 1-02 does not even fully recognize...
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    Up until cyberspace was declared a separate...

    Up until cyberspace was declared a separate domain, the answer was "nothing". "Cyber" was covered under "Computer Network Operations" part of IO doctrine. The designation of this domain has truly...
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    Lets bear in mind...although there is an "air...

    Lets bear in mind...although there is an "air domain" both the maritime and land domains do claim a portion of the air above them for their operations as well. Further, there is almost always...
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    Again, without a cogent definition of "cyber"...

    Again, without a cogent definition of "cyber" this is a moot exercise.

    I know...broken record....but just putting a word in front of another doesn't not necessarily modify.
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    No. Command and Control means "command and...

    No. Command and Control means "command and control". Otherwise the Air Force wouldn't have changed all their Comms folks into "Cyber Warriors".

    Seriously? Literally means? Where is the...
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    I keep asking and it never gets an answer: ...

    I keep asking and it never gets an answer:

    What does "cyber" mean?

    If cyberspace is a domain, then we should be able to describe cogently what is meant by a cyber (sic) "war".

    Wouldn't...
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