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    The larger issue is that we don't issue laser...

    The larger issue is that we don't issue laser designators in large enough numbers to make these things viable.
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    While APKWS is a great idea, it is not indirect...

    While APKWS is a great idea, it is not indirect fire. It is very different than the systems that this thread was created to discuss.
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    Guided missiles in direct fire are very different...

    Guided missiles in direct fire are very different from indirect fire...

    We need not bounce back and forth between different kinds.
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    Probably an American thing. I'm a huge fan of...

    Probably an American thing.

    I'm a huge fan of the guided stuff, but they take a lot more work. You have to have a small target location error which required a mensurated grid, or you have to uses...
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    Technically all missiles (and some rockets) are...

    Technically all missiles (and some rockets) are guided.

    Somehow he is on the topic of direct fire systems, which is very different from where this thread started.
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    Doctrinally ECR is twice the radius at which you...

    Doctrinally ECR is twice the radius at which you can expect one shell fragment per meter. There are other measures of lethality now.

    As for ammunition choice, I'm not entirely sure what is...
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    Check. I'm going to be an MLRS guy here in a few...

    Check. I'm going to be an MLRS guy here in a few months.

    DPICM isn't used in either theater right now, which marginalizes the system from the start. The M31 provides a 51.5 pound HE warhead and...
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    Unguided MLRS isn't particularly accurate, nor is...

    Unguided MLRS isn't particularly accurate, nor is the range that far. Even the extended range munitions can't get much further than some of the newer 52 caliber pieces. That said, you can fit a lot...
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    What about the limitations of the smaller shell? ...

    What about the limitations of the smaller shell? Not only can you fit less explosive or payload, but the incremental modernization of the 155 means that M795 from the DPICM family has an ECR of...
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