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    Iraqi households are not allowed RPGs. Also, the...

    Iraqi households are not allowed RPGs. Also, the presence of weapons in certain neighborhoods during certain periods by not-uniformed personnel could be considered hostile intent. Determinations of...
  2. This seems pretty wrong-headed to me. Yes, the...

    This seems pretty wrong-headed to me.

    Yes, the ROEs reflect strategic considerations. They must; especially in the environment we're in.

    I'm not sure why you think JA's add a PID component...
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    Not at all. "conflict of an international...

    Not at all. "conflict of an international character" means a conflict overtly between states. insurrections can be dealt with in a more robust and kinetic fashion than simple police actions....and,...
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    as a practical matter, considerably "worse"...

    as a practical matter, considerably "worse" engagements have been deemed to follow the relevant ROE. this one is of primarily of pedantic interest except for the hyped video.

    motorfirebox: I...
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    1. I completely agree with your last point. See...

    1. I completely agree with your last point. See the Marines as an example.

    2. We might have run into a major cultural difference here. just take leave beginning on Monday and ending on Friday?...
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    I have almost a decade's worth of major corporate...

    I have almost a decade's worth of major corporate experience in NY. (Agreed, that doesn't necessarily represent the norm across America.) And I was in academia once upon a time. Gave it up...
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    Ok, that's a fair point. I haven't been around...

    Ok, that's a fair point. I haven't been around long enough to have seen it. Point taken.
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    Possibly. But the few officers that I've met...

    Possibly.

    But the few officers that I've met that come from a similar background as myself agree with me (and bring it up themselves)...in private anyway.

    One of the things about having a...
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    You are way overestimating the exposure that many...

    You are way overestimating the exposure that many people have to the Army. When I went in I remember trying to explain it to one friend of mine in NY...her: "I don't know anything about the...
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    oh, ROTC may not be the primary mechanism by...

    oh, ROTC may not be the primary mechanism by which to reach this demographic (though if there was a serious CUNY ROTC program you might be surprised)...my post that started all this was just stating...
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    oh, and I thought Once an Eagle was a pretty...

    oh, and I thought Once an Eagle was a pretty poorly written book that displayed some passion in need of an editor.

    thus my moniker.
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    Boy, I do some work for a couple days, actually...

    Boy, I do some work for a couple days, actually get internet access and I see all this. (the BCT breakdowns are missing a couple officers btw.)

    1. I never said that people not from the coasts...
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    to try and refocus this so it doesn't become a...

    to try and refocus this so it doesn't become a free-for-all my point is this:

    1. The Army is racially diverse but culturally homogenous.

    2. Although the causes of this homogenity are...
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    You also failed to notice that I mentioned two...

    You also failed to notice that I mentioned two midwestern schools and one southern school as examples of "elite" schools. To make the engineers happy I'll add Caltech, CMU and MIT as examples.
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    1. I of course said nothing of the kind. (Ok, I...

    1. I of course said nothing of the kind. (Ok, I don't have much good to say about Killeen or Lawton or Fayettville. Have you been to any of those three?) Better reading comprehension please. For...
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    Why wouldn't cadets who grew up speaking Arabic...

    Why wouldn't cadets who grew up speaking Arabic or Mandarin or Russian be more ready? Why wouldn't cadets who spent two years in Israel in high school be more ready? Why wouldn't cadets who spent...
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    Agreed on the Army encouragement and...

    Agreed on the Army encouragement and incentivization of marriage...but that's part and parcel of Army culture too. And like I said, it discourages us single folks from entering. (Never mind that...
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    true on your conclusion. but kids from the...

    true on your conclusion. but kids from the coasts tend to be either a. from first-generation immigrant families or b. are the elites you speak of. in which case they've probably traveled...
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    I did some of my schooling in the midwest...

    I did some of my schooling in the midwest actually. I'm not quite sure where Podunk State is located; I just know that it exists. It's the place that apparently has a huge ROTC program which keeps...
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    I think we're probably in general agreement. ...

    I think we're probably in general agreement.

    1. My concern is that there are severe second-order consequences to the Army and the nation as a result (you have alluded to this as well I think).
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    I get the economics behind ROTC. But that also...

    I get the economics behind ROTC. But that also assumes that all ROTC candidates are equal. That 200 cadets from Podunk State are equivalent to 200 cadets from NYU (who come from across the country...
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    As for the marriage thing: Army officers used to...

    As for the marriage thing: Army officers used to get married later in life than equivalent civilians. Not so anymore. I'd suggest that's a result of where officers are from.
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    "Is that culture you refer to an Army imposed...

    "Is that culture you refer to an Army imposed culture or is it the culture of your 40% South plus 18% Midwest and perhaps a few of the others preferring those cultural icons to the alternatives you...
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    one interesting take: ...

    one interesting take:

    http://handle.dtic.mil/100.2/ADA493829
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    I'm referring to the Army commissioned officer...

    I'm referring to the Army commissioned officer culture (especially at the company grade level) being primarily southern/midwestern. NASCAR, fishing, pickups and dip v. hybrids and theater. Binge...
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