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    Mike: "So, how does a country without much...

    Mike:

    "So, how does a country without much administration to begin with handle even the basic aspects of tax collection ? Unless the government is supported by foreign funding, it would probably...
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    Dayuhan: "What if the local people - who are,...

    Dayuhan:

    "What if the local people - who are, after all, supposed to be the raison d'etre of the government - are fundamentally suspicious of the idea of centralized Government? What if they see...
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    " But it's an old concept. The may-may in DRC...

    " But it's an old concept. The may-may in DRC went up to the point to take hostages to get aid. Even government official who were on their side.
    The result in the end is quite conter productive as...
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    I think that is the point. Without an...

    I think that is the point.

    Without an effective subnational governance plan emenating from the center, each area will set it's own course, which we will then support instead.

    At that point, you...
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    Relax: Step 1 is still security, and to hold...

    Relax:

    Step 1 is still security, and to hold it until Step 2 can get done.

    Oh, did I mention that step 2 is usually considered a process of social and economic advancement that takes place over...
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    Dayuhan: As I understand it, many areas of...

    Dayuhan:

    As I understand it, many areas of Afghanistan were, in effect, self-governing and stable enough, in their own way, but decades of conflict leveled or destabilized a lot of old structures...
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    Be skeptical. Be very skeptical. Make each...

    Be skeptical. Be very skeptical. Make each proposed effort justify itseld in the actual circumstance.

    Reconstruction, in the real world, means fixing things that are broken, putting the shelves...
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    Be skeptical. Be very skeptical. Make each...

    Be skeptical. Be very skeptical. Make each proposed effort justify itseld in the actual circumstance.

    Reconstruction, in the real world, means fixing things that are broken, putting the shelves...
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    Dayuhan: Like Mike, I think soldiers are just...

    Dayuhan:

    Like Mike, I think soldiers are just first responders, not builders or operators.

    But the current set in Afghanistan, is, as I reckon it---5,000 civilian experts, based on a Carr...
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    Steve: There are still plenty of little bugs...

    Steve:

    There are still plenty of little bugs for Macs.Even my Win/Mac w/Parellels gets some things that are fluky. Maybe a patch or update?

    Re: Water

    All well and good. but reducing...
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    Along with a brief explanation of why that 7 to...

    Along with a brief explanation of why that 7 to 15 is important, and its variabilities (temperature, etc...). And simple version of how to treat water, or detect water borne illnesses.

    And some...
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    MA- Maybe not a big market, but definitely a...

    MA-


    Maybe not a big market, but definitely a book (or source) that has to be created.

    Is that where we can contribute?

    The SWJ Civil/Military for Dummies Handbook with lessons learned.
    ...
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    Back to the same issues

    Lessons Learned

    So many of these COIN, Civ/Mil Manuals use bullets, jargon, and slogans for civ/mil stuff, but contain little practical information about specific how tos that somebody could use...
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    Takings

    Dahayun:

    "As soon as they knew the road project would be funded (and well before it was announced) they were already muscling in, acquiring legal rights to land and positioning themselves to...
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    Ps

    I'm signed up for a CSIS briefing on the London Conference on Monday afternoon. Two ambassadors will go over it.

    State is coming out with a big report and recommendations on Afghan civ strategies...
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    Sorry. Had to crank out my requisite 80 pages...

    Sorry. Had to crank out my requisite 80 pages plus exhibits. Done at last.

    We have talked about this stuff through Global Planner's Network for the Afghan gov (a member). Digital advising. I can...
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    DLA Piper, sorry. I think, for the experiment,...

    DLA Piper, sorry.

    I think, for the experiment, you flip the problem around to ask about an appropriate end state, then back fill into the solutions and needs, rather than the top-down (We have...
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    Figuring it out...

    There is no military solution (Defeating the enemy vs. minimizing opposition, threats).

    There is no civilian solution. We can not send enough civilians to accomplish the job (security, resource...
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    Mike: Same here---I am swamped with expert...

    Mike:

    Same here---I am swamped with expert reports for a really confusing 10-year-old Class Action case (on remand for final determination of damages)---so I pop on here for a break from that...
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    Mike: Generally, when yopu go into a store to...

    Mike:

    Generally, when yopu go into a store to pruchase a good, you get what you pay for.

    When you go into a country to nation-build, quite often you end up with a $53 Billion Fiasco, the term...
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    Islands & Pirates

    MA Lagrange:

    Very good analogy.

    As a relative youngster, Uncle Sam decided that I would enjoy wandering the Countryside in Germany, in and around Hof (the interior German Border). As I walked...
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    The Wealth of Nations

    Well....

    Probably just icing on Dahayun's cake, but I come out of two edu-theories of nations and national structure/wealth.

    Without dispute, a nation that soaks itself dry, which produces...
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