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    Yep. There are 21 in my generation--about half...

    Yep. There are 21 in my generation--about half did at least one tour, only one did 20, the rest were scattered in between. I would say here, though, that the attitudes could be vice versa. When I...
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    I always wonder how much dissonance occurs in...

    I always wonder how much dissonance occurs in discussions not by conflicting ideas but by unrealized differing definitions of words. Been thinking about this one....

    My kids are 25 and 29. I've...
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    Urk. How shall I count the ways............ ...

    Urk. How shall I count the ways............

    I'm not talking about singing Kumbayah together (I hate that song and I was never a flower child even when I was the right age) when I talk about...
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    Exactly. I don't know any anti military people,...

    Exactly. I don't know any anti military people, frankly. Most I know are perfectly willing to support the troops--except no one knows exactly how to do that either since most of us don't know...
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    Um, yeah. But it goes back to being innies and...

    Um, yeah. But it goes back to being innies and outies--as it were. :wry: Each in group talks to each other. I've been at the fringe and blink at both sides, frankly. But it's that communication gap...
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    This is a point I have been wondering about. We...

    This is a point I have been wondering about. We have never had a large standing army, in fact it seemed to me that it has been almost a point of pride NOT to have one, and the "citizen soldier" was...
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    Thank you, although I'm still a little dubious...

    Thank you, although I'm still a little dubious here about my point getting across. I am tact-challenged and detest terms like 'dialogue.':D In trying to be tactful and use current jargon I think I...
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    Before I respond I'll tell you all that I had...

    Before I respond I'll tell you all that I had been mulling over the post I made over the last eight hours and actually asked that it be pulled a bit earlier tonight, believing it was both off topic...
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    Try turning this around. This is a hot point for...

    Try turning this around. This is a hot point for me, particularly when reading military discussions from my civilian side.

    My sister and brother-in-law were in the Air Force. They had several...
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    Oddly enough I had noticed this with the female...

    Oddly enough I had noticed this with the female volunteers coming in after me. Most of them opted for EMS after finishing the obligatory basic instruction in firefighting--and couldn't understand why...
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    I became a volunteer firefighter in 1977, the...

    I became a volunteer firefighter in 1977, the county involved had just hired the first professional firefighter in the US the year before. I can tell you with absolute certainty that this kind of...
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    Hiya! My dad was a very young and very proud...

    Hiya! My dad was a very young and very proud sailor in WWII, but he was disappointed too :p Two of us did Civil Air Patrol instead of Sea Scouts and a third joined the AF!




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    It does take time, and it's only been 50-60 years...

    It does take time, and it's only been 50-60 years since the first changes such as access to univerities and careers really opened up, not to mention access to power such as elected offices and...
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    My daughter is 25; when I was her age women had...

    My daughter is 25; when I was her age women had just been admitted to the service academies and this was NOT what I was hearing then, I have at times wondered if things had changed at all for my...
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    You've pretty much summed it up, kehenry1. Thank...

    You've pretty much summed it up, kehenry1. Thank you.

    Maggie
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    And some of the firefighters I've worked with...

    And some of the firefighters I've worked with would agree with you. I, however, consider that the men were the ones causing the drama and problems....

    Maggie
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    I was a volunteer firefighter for 14 years. This...

    I was a volunteer firefighter for 14 years. This was a definite problem and infuriated me no end. The attitude had nothing to do with ability, the men I usually ran with were the ones doing the...
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