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    Default IISS Strategic Comment: Strait of Hormuz: Iran's disruptive military options

    Worth reading I suggest. Which opens with:
    ..an assessment of military capabilities deployed in the area, and of probable tactics, suggests that Iran would find it difficult or unpalatable to cause major disruption.
    Ends with two options and this passage:
    Though facing vastly superior military capabilities, Iran has a number of military options in the Gulf. While it may not be able to carry out its threat to 'close' the strait, it could cause significant disruption to shipping – and also invite a hostile response
    Link:http://www.iiss.org/publications/str...itary-options/
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    Default How Israel might strike at Iran (BBC News)

    A slightly longer than usual commentary, largely based on the work of IISS, with two parts:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17115643
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    http://www.der-postillon.com/2012/01...-kurz-vor.html

    A satire (in German) that reminds us that Iran has been on the doorstep to nuclear weapons for 20 years now (according to Western fearmongers).

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    Default Influencing Iran: A Fourth Way?

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    Report: Iran planned to bomb Israeli ship in Suez Canal
    Egyptian paper Al-Ahram reports that two Egyptian citizens received instructions from Iranian agents to attack an Israeli ship, and offered a third man 50 million Egyptian pounds to carry out the act.
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...canal-1.420463
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    Default What Would an Air Attack on Iran Look Like?

    An updated RUSI analysis, summarised as:
    A ground invasion is impossible. But Israel lacks the long-range assets unilaterally to neutralise a dispersed Iranian nuclear capability, whereas a large US co-ordinated air campaign against Iranian nuclear weapon facilities is eminently feasible. Nevertheless the effectiveness and fallout from such a campaign remains in doubt.
    The author wrote a similar piece six years ago and makes some interesting points, the one about Iran's unique concrete is new to me:
    Iran is an earthquake zone, so its engineers have developed some of the toughest building materials in the world. Such materials will be used to protect hidden nuclear installations from the artificial equivalent of small earthquakes. US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta recently admitted that the US Air Force's new MOP bunker-busting bomb now needs an upgrade to take on the deepest Iranian bunkers. But even that may not be enough, thanks to Iran's mastery of smart 'ultra-high performance concrete'.
    Link:http://www.rusi.org/analysis/comment...4F7572130F2E4/
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    Default Why Israel Will Attack Iran

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    Default Striking Iran: a strategist's viewpoint

    Patrick Porter's blog has a comment 'Iran: its 60/40, not 90/10' and opens with:
    The issue of whether and under what circumstances to use military force to disrupt Iran’s nuclear programme is a 60/40, not a 90/10. In other words, it is a more marginal decision than polemicists on either side often recognise.

    Which is the greater evil? An Iranian bomb, or a preventative war against Iran?

    A view, for what its worth: military action is probably a greater evil than Tehran’s uranium enrichment programme. But an actual weaponised nuclear capability is probably a greater evil than war.
    This later point struck me:
    To make that ‘worth it’, its capabilities should be seriously degraded. Bluntly, they will hate us -even more- so the resort to force, if it comes, had better make them fear us.
    Link:http://offshorebalancer.wordpress.co...6040-not-9010/
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    Patsies have their uses.

    TEHRAN — Iranian security forces have arrested an Israeli-backed “terrorist team” that was planning attacks inside Iran, the Intelligence Ministry announced Tuesday, four days before crucial nuclear talks with world powers.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...I8S_story.html
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    Default Analysis & Therapy: Israeli positions on striking Iran (Part 1)

    Hamid Hussain, an occasional SWC contributor, has sent this commentary on; I have very slightly changed the wording and the title is mine - inspired by text in part two.

    The Chief of Staff (COS) of the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) Lieutenant General Benny Gantz gave a balanced interview to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz on April 25, 2012. In this he stated that pressure against Iran was working and he did not endorse the call for military action advocated by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu:http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...apons-1.426389

    This resulted in speculation that the military leadership were at odds with the prime minister on the issue of a military strike against Iranian nuclear facilities. Senior Israeli decision makers are fully aware of the impact of a nuclear Iran on the region but they are not unanimous about a military strike to rollback the Iranian nuclear program.

    Tensions have been mounting over the last few years between Israel and Iran over the issue of the Iranian nuclear program. Mysterious fires at some Iranian facilities, computer crashes and the assassination of some Iranian nuclear scientists in the last two years are not accidents. Almost everyone believes that Israel is launching a covert war against Iran. An inevitable retaliation materialized early this year when Iranian agents targeted Israeli diplomats in Delhi, Bangkok and the Georgian capital Tbilisi.

    There is a consensus among Israeli policy makers about containment of Tehran, however there are differences over the use of military strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities.

    These differences have created tensions among senior Israeli policy makers and had an impact on the selection of COS of IDF last year. In late 2010, five major generals were considered for the post of COS. The list included Gadi Eizenkot, Avi Mizrachi, Gadi Shamni, Benny Gantz and Yaov Galant:http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139238

    All are respected professional officers and have gone through the usual pattern of tours in senior command and staff positions. Eizenkot served as Military Secretary (MS) to Barak and also served as commander of Northern command. Shamni; a paratrooper served as MS to prime minister and commander of Central command and Mizrachi; an armor officer served as head of Central command. Gantz; a paratrooper had served as commander of Northern Command and Deputy COS. Galant, then commanding Southern Command was unique in the sense that he was from the navy. Galant was the most hawkish of the group.

    In my view, Galant was picked by Netanyahu and Barak thinking that he would go along with their hard line policy against Iran especially a military strike. This is also supported by the fact that another hawk; a reservist officer Major General Yair Naveh was also appointed as Deputy COS. Naveh had been accused of ordering assassination of Palestinians against guidelines issued by Israeli high court. When reminded of court’s guidelines, he remarked:
    Leave me alone and don't bother me with High Court guidelines.
    From:http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...chief-1.341059

    Galant was the first naval officer nominated for the COS position. Galant handed over his command to Major General Tal Russo after announcement of his nomination to be groomed for the COS position close to the power center. Galant had differences with army chief Gabi Ashkenazi dating back to 2009, when during the 2009 Gaza operation called Operation Cast Lead both had clashed (Galant was commander of the forces operating in Gaza and was against halting the attack). Ashkenazi didn’t appoint him as his deputy because of this bad blood:http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=185608

    Galant’s opponents tried to scuttle his appointment and a paper emerged that suggested that Galant tried to portray his competitors in a negative light to secure his own position. It was alleged that a reserve lieutenant colonel and former intelligence officer Boaz Harpaz who was close to Ashkenazi was involved in this affair:http://www.jpost.com/Features/FrontL...aspx?id=206695

    Later, Harpaz admitted that he had forged the document:http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Ar...aspx?id=205399

    Galant dodged this bullet but a subsequent shot alleging misuse of government land proved to be fatal. In early February 2012, days before assuming his new post of COS, Attorney General (AG) Yehuda Weinstein completed his investigations about the land controversy involving Galant:http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...023817,00.html

    It was alleged that Galant had illegally used land next to his house and built his driveway on public property. AG considered these charges serious thus forcing prime minister Netanyahu and defense minister Ehud Barak to cancel Galant’s appointment.

    It is known that Barak and Ashkenazi had a difficult time getting along and differences over the policy on Iran aggravated the situation. Ashkenazi started to push back against Netanyahu and Barak’s rhetoric on Iran:http://www.economist.com/blogs/claus...ew_chief_staff

    It soon came out into the open and Barak accused Ashkenazi of not respecting the defense minister’s authority. The most damaging accusation was that Ashkenazi was undermining Netanyahu and Barak by downplaying the Iranian threat. Barak alleged that Ashkenazi told the U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael Mullen, that jingoistic rhetoric of military strike against Iran by Netanyahu and Barak were empty words and that Israel has no military option:http://972mag.com/yedioth-idf-chief-...in-iran/10139/

    Barak was furious and questioned Ashkenazi’s professional and ethical standards in a television interview:http://www.jpost.com/Features/FrontL...aspx?id=206695

    Barak was forced to cancel Galant’s appointment just days before Ashkenazi’s retirement. The possibility of having not enough time to select a new candidate meant that Ashkenazi’s tenure could be extended until the new COS took charge. Barak showed his dislike by suggesting that Deputy COS Major General Yair Naveh could work as the temporary COS for sixty days until the appointment of new COS. Barak was criticized by his cabinet colleagues and he was forced to pick COS quickly appointing Benny Gantz:http://www.thejc.com/news/israel-new...-new-idf-chief

    On his part, Ashkenazi may have tried to stop Galant’s appointment as the new COS. In March 2012, the State Comptroller’s report in Harpaz case criticized Ashkenazi’s role in the affair:http://www.haaretz.com/news/national...ffair-1.416388

    The fall out from Ashkenazi-Barak clash is still haunting the relationship between the new COS and Barak, so that will affect the appointment of senior officers.

    In 2011, confusing signals were coming from Tel Aviv, and in the tussle between hawks and doves, doves were gaining the upper hand:http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7107FR20110201

    Last year, opponents of military action started to voice their concerns openly. Former head of Mossad, Ephraim Halevy warned that a military strike against Iran could result in serious consequences for the region:http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...143909,00.html

    Another former head Meir Dagan called the idea of an Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear facilities as:
    the stupidest thing I have ever heard
    Link:http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...heard-1.360367
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    Default Analysis & Therapy: Israeli positions on striking Iran (Part 2)

    Initially, only Netanyahu and Barak were passionate advocates of military option against Iran. They were able to convince foreign minister Avidgor Lieberman to their cause. Many cabinet members and senior military and intelligence officials are reported to be against the strike:http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...-iran-1.393214

    Interior Minister Eli Yishai, intelligence minister Dan Meridor, minister for strategic affairs and a former COS of IDF Moshe Yaalon and finance minister Yuval Steinitz are in the "dove" camp. There is also some pushing back from senior military and intelligence officials opposed to military strike against Iran:http://forward.com/articles/145804/i...on-iran/?p=all

    A well informed journalist Nahum Barnea wrote a piece for Yediot Aharonot in October 2011 voicing the concerns of security officials:http://didiremez.tumblr.com/post/120...ak-planning-to

    Opposition to military strike is almost unanimous among professional security officials. In 2010-2011, heads of all important institutions including COS Gabi Ashkenazi, head of Mossad Meir Dagan, Director of Aman (Military Intelligence) Amos Yadlin and head of Shin Bet (Internal Security) Yuval Diskin were against military strike.

    The most interesting fact is that in a twelve month time period heads of all these organizations were changed but the new brass including COS Gantz, Mossad chief Tamir Pardo, Aman chief Aviv Kochavi and head of Shin Bet Yoram Cohen agreed with the assessment their respective predecessors:http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...n-nuke-threat/

    Now we have two groups of psychoanalysts and psychotherapists among Israeli leaders. One group headed by Netanyahu and Barak is arguing that Iranian leaders are ‘irrational’ and ‘psychotic’. They claim that the illness is so advanced that only electric shock therapy of massive military strike is the viable option to keep the world safe. The other group that includes senior Israeli military and intelligence officials are informing us that Iranian leaders are ‘rational’ and while they need some medication i.e. covert action but there is no need for drastic measures. They fear that a massive military strike can have many unintended consequences for the region.

    In Israeli decision making process, current balance is against military strike and it is likely that Israel will continue covert operations to slow down Iranian nuclear program while working with United States and Europe to tighten the sanction regime with the hope of changing the calculation of Iranian leadership. This means that Tel Aviv and Tehran will continue their little covert action dirty games of targeting each other’s interests all around the globe.
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    Did I already mention...?



    Iran has about as much reason to rationally think about nuclear deterrence as Israel has.


    (The graphic is humour, and not exactly up-to date in detail.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    Did I already mention...?



    Iran has about as much reason to rationally think about nuclear deterrence as Israel has.


    (The graphic is humour, and not exactly up-to date in detail.)
    Upon returning from his second World War-related trip abroad a family member of mine was tickled pink to learn that he had managed to get information about his general whereabouts past the letter censors a number of times, though no one at home had picked up on it. (I was told that he said words to the effect of, "Look at how many times I told you'uns first thing in the letter, 'I ran [X number of] miles to get to where I am again today.'") Anyway, in the mid-1940s the majority of folks in Western North Carolina apparently had little knowledge of a place called Iran and employees of the U.S. Government seem to have been a little hit-or-miss on the locale, as well. Seven decades on and I'm not sure the situation is all that much better.
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    Now we have two groups of psychoanalysts and psychotherapists among Israeli leaders.
    That...is a great line.
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    The usual suspects, Captain Renault?

    DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran has arrested the killers of two of its nuclear scientists, state media reported on Thursday, as the Islamic state continues to hunt down those it says are responsible for attempting to sabotage its nuclear program.

    The suspects are accused of assassinating a physicist at Iran's Atomic Energy Organisation (AEOI) and a deputy director at the Natanz uranium enrichment facility using magnetic bombs that were attached to the vehicles they were in.
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    Default One opinion...

    http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articl..._bomb_2-062112

    Why Iran Should Get the Bomb
    Nuclear Balancing Would Mean Stability

    The past several months have witnessed a heated debate over the best way for the United States and Israel to respond to Iran's nuclear activities. As the argument has raged, the United States has tightened its already robust sanctions regime against the Islamic Republic, and the European Union announced in January that it will begin an embargo on Iranian oil on July 1. Although the United States, the EU, and Iran have recently returned to the negotiating table, a palpable sense of crisis still looms.

    It should not. Most U.S., European, and Israeli commentators and policymakers warn that a nuclear-armed Iran would be the worst possible outcome of the current standoff. In fact, it would probably be the best possible result: the one most likely to restore stability to the Middle East...
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    Interesting, but it suffers from a couple of very questionable assumptions.

    The first is the assumption that Iran really wants the bomb and the second is that Iran wants the bomb because of Israel's bomb. Essentially he wrongly places Israel at the center of Iranian thinking.

    Iran's nuclear program was always about Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Iran didn't begin its program in the mid-1980's because of the Israeli bomb - far from it, since Iran and Israel were secret allies at the time. Iran's program was for developing a deterrent against Iraq and the strategic rationale for it went away in 2003.

    Israel? What can Israel do to Iran beyond a one-off air strike on a few fixed facilities? Israel isn't an existential threat to Iran - what exactly is Iran deterring by pursing a weapon (if, in fact, it is)? Attempting to build a bomb at this point is the surest way to precipitate conflict, not prevent it, so the idea that would somehow produce stability is laughable.
    Supporting "time-limited, scope limited military actions" for 20 years.

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    Default An Anthropological Comparative Study Of The European Oil Sanctions Against Iran

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    Default The Costs of War with Iran: An Intelligence Preparation of the Battlefield

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    Default IAEA Report on Iran Puts Israel in a Box

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