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    Default 2010 Fires Seminar - Fort Sill, OK

    The 2010 Fires Seminar began today, 17 May 2010 and will run through 21 May 2010. I'll be posting summaries from each day's key leader briefs for everyone's knowledge and would love feedback.

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    Default GEN Dempsey remarks at the Fires Seminar

    GEN Dempsey Notes – TRADOC Enterprise
    Today, during GEN Dempsey’s discussion at the Fires Seminar, he discussed two broad mission sets. He defined these mission sets as, 1) wide areas of security, and 2) maneuver. GEN Dempsey stated our approach to both types needs balance and we can’t sub-optimize one for the other. Also, GEN Dempsey commented on development of the institution noting that in this century, we can’t be content to redesign ourselves every fifteen years. As the Army moves forward, he feels that the Army needs to adapt the institution on a possible two-year timeframe, transitioning from the current four-six year timeframe we currently operate in and do so with intent to redesign again every five years. For more of GEN Dempsey’s remarks and to watch other Fires Seminar briefings, log on to DCO-Connect at:
    https://connect.dco.dod.mil/r75632489
    Also, the presentations that speakers give will be posted on the Fires Knowledge Network on AKO.

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    MG Halverson Notes – State of the Fires
    MG Halverson, (Commander of the Fires Center of Excellence, FCoE), discussed a wide array of topics during his portion of the seminar. Some of which included a discussion on the integration of Fires Doctrine with the ACC, 3-0, and Army Operating Concepts. MG Halverson said that we must set the intellectual foundation to stay relevant in today’s operating environment and that we have to have the right approach to maintain our core competencies at all levels.
    He also took time to elaborate and dispel some “myths” about the Fires community. Some of his key points were that the Fires Force is a deployed force, adding that Field Artillery units are firing between 4000-6000 rounds per month in OEF and fire support is being used at all levels. And, AC and ARNG Air Defense units are deployed or preparing for deployment with CRAM missions, with 42% of the current Patriot force is forward stationed or deployed.
    MG Halverson also spoke of issues that the FCoE is currently. Some of the points of this discussion were:
    1.) What Fires C2 capabilities are required at various echelons?
    2.) What Fires capabilities are required at the IBCT level?
    Precision, near precision, conventional munitions mix
    Organic v. task organized
    Possible composite units
    3.) What AMD capabilities are required at the tactical levels?
    BCT – Corps
    IFPC/C-RAM/CUAS/ and CMD
    Lastly, he discussed his Top 6 Fires Gaps where he mentioned that these were the areas that needed to be addressed as we move forward as a Center of Excellence. There was then an open discussion on how best to address the shortfalls:
    1.) Lack of organic precision indirect Fires capabilities in the IBCT
    2.) Lack of ability to detect, ID, track and intercept Low/Slow UAS threats to the lowest tactical level (BCT –Div)
    3.) Lack of lightweight accurate target location designation systems to support dismounted Soldiers in the IBCT
    4.) Lack of ability to protect forces from rocket, artillery, and mortar projectiles down to the lowest tactical level
    5.) Lack of an Accurate 360 degree targeting capability to accurately employ munitions at extended ranges (BCT – FiB(Div))
    6.) Lack of ability to integrate Army and JIIM air missile defense capabilities across all echelons

    For more of MG Halverson’s remarks and to watch other Fires Seminar briefings, log on to DCO-Connect at:
    https://connect.dco.dod.mil/r75632489
    Also, the presentations that speakers give will be posted on the Fires Knowledge Network on AKO.

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    Thanks for the updates on the seminar.
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    Default Mr. Dale Ormond's Remarks

    Mr. Dale Ormond – Deputy Commander of the Combine Arms Center
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    For his brief, Mr. Ormond reiterated a fact that in the past, situational awareness came from a top-down approach, but now it comes from the bottom-up. He said that today, we need creative thinkers and adaptive leaders in the Army and on today’s battlefields. He relayed to the audience that it was GEN Dempsey’s number one priority.
    Mr. Ormond discussed how, when we begin our initial entry phases of our Army experience, we place a significant emphasis on tactically training our men and women and how, as we move up in rank, we train less and less. This has led to a slippery slope in some regards to where there are perceptions that you have to “stay in the fight” in order to move up in rank and that these people have been unable, or have little, broadening experiences. He mentioned that having these different experiences and learning other perspectives allow for success at a strategic level. A 40-minute discussion began immediate following his brief on several issues ranging from how to best implement CCC (among other courses) to building competencies in an era persistent conflict. It was a great discussion and highly encourage people to check out video on DCO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Blair View Post
    Thanks for the updates on the seminar.
    Concur. Good job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randal Knight View Post
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    2.) Lack of ability to detect, ID, track and intercept Low/Slow UAS threats to the lowest tactical level (BCT –Div)
    Concur. This is a major problem.
    3.) Lack of lightweight accurate target location designation systems to support dismounted Soldiers in the IBCT
    Why? The equipment exists and is even combat proven
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    3.) Lack of lightweight accurate target location designation systems to support dismounted Soldiers in the IBCT
    1) A compass, binos, a protractor, and a map are not that heavy.
    2) The VECTOR system is fielded, works pretty well, and is not that heavy.

    Look at your target location training, and fix it. Then look at your PT program, and fix that. If both of those are good and you're still having problems, then look at a new system.

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    I don't know what gear they use, but a 13F assigned to the 75th Regiment carries around 120 pounds of gear.

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