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    Quote Originally Posted by 82redleg View Post
    The Constitution does? Please reference.

    I'm sure some progressive judicial ruling does, but that doesn't keep it being as wrong as I don't know what.

    And the sharia courts (as they exist in the UK and other places) are just a step. If you don't fear a religion that doesn't accept the separation of church and state, and demands that its followers use force to convert or make subservient non-believers, you are blind to the realities of Islam.
    This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

    Treaties are the primary source of international law. The other important source is custom, but most of customary law that matters has been ingrained in treaties.

    I don't know a nice way to put this, but the notion of a sharia threat is absolute nonsense.

    It's like this. The word "law" has multiple meanings. It's used to refer to guidelines which members of some organization agree to be bound by. There is a Boy Scout Law and the Mormon Church has a Law of Chastity. Adherence is voluntary by members of those organizations. It is NOT law in the sense of mandatory law passed by a legislature. It does NOT supersede local, state or Federal law.

    That is what some Muslim communities in Western nations have elected to do. Sharia rulings do not replace or supersede British law or American law any more than the Boy Scout Law or the Mormon Law of Chastity do.

    Things like this Oklahoma movement make Americans look like fools who don't understand the concept of law.

    And the notion that Islam "demands that its followers use force to convert" is simply--and I'm looking for the nicest word I can find--wrong. But that is irrelevant to the topic under discussion.
    Last edited by SteveMetz; 10-20-2010 at 10:57 PM.

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