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    Default Venezuela, Iran & others: a coalition? (New title)

    Mod's Note:This thread was called: The "Newest" New World Order - a Coalition of Antagonistic Lilliputians ™ ? until 30/12/2010 and re-named for clarity as Venezuela, Iran & others: a coalition?

    Maybe a call to that new kid with the funny haircut in Pyongyang.
    A little innocent help from Russia, a little under-the-table help from China.
    Good way to take out the Evil Empire of the Northern Hemisphere.

    TEHRAN, Iran – The leaders of Iran and Venezuela hailed what they called their strong strategic relationship on Wednesday, saying they are united in efforts to establish a "new world order" that will eliminate Western dominance over global affairs.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101021/...JhbnZlbmV6dWVs

    nb : yes, it's spells out C.O.A.L. (every group of bad guys needs a single-syllable abbreviated name)
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    CARACAS (Reuters) – Cuban intelligence services directly advise Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez in what a U.S. diplomat called the "Axis of Mischief," according to a State Department cable released by the WikiLeaks website.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101202/...eaks_venezuela
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    Found this while looking for something else -

    The Chinese mafia has reportedly collaborated with "Islamic terrorist groups" in the region (United States April 2003; Combined Arms Center Military Review July-August 2002). Information about their relationship with the local Paraguayan population was scarce among the sources consulted by the Research Directorate. Country Reports 2003 stated that Chinese groups had "reportedly threatened the life of Ultima Hora journalist Gustavo Garcia for investigating them" (Sec. 2).
    http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/countr...f61642c,0.html
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    Among the two most alarming revelations is the already completed sale and delivery, to Venezuela by Russia, of nearly 2,000 advanced, shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles capable of hitting aircraft as high as 19,000 feet. Equally and perhaps more alarming is an October agreement between Iran and Venezuela. The agreement establishes a joint ground-to-ground missile base on Venezuelan soil and calls for the sharing of missile technology and the training of technicians and officers. In addition, Venezuela may use the missiles as it chooses for “national needs” and in case of “emergency.” Several types of missiles will be deployed, giving Venezuela the ability to strike targets throughout South and Central America and throughout the U.S.
    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/iran-sh...-to-venezuela/

    Note scale of Venezuelan oil imports to US here
    http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/p...nt/import.html
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    Iran is planning to place medium-range missiles on Venezuelan soil, based on western information sources[1], according to an article in the German daily, Die Welt, of November 25, 2010. According to the article, an agreement between the two countries was signed during the last visit o Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to Tehran on October19, 2010. The previously undisclosed contract provides for the establishment of a jointly operated military base in Venezuela, and the joint development of ground-to-ground missiles.

    At a moment when NATO members found an agreement, in the recent Lisbon summit (19-20 November 2010), to develop a Missile Defence capability to protect NATO's populations and territories in Europe against ballistic missile attacks from the East (namely, Iran), Iran's counter-move consists in establishing a strategic base in the South American continent - in the United States's soft underbelly.

    According to Die Welt, Venezuela has agreed to allow Iran to establish a military base manned by Iranian missile officers, soldiers of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Venezuelan missile officers. In addition, Iran has given permission for the missiles to be used in case of an "emergency". In return, the agreement states that Venezuela can use these facilities for "national needs" – radically increasing the threat to neighbors like Colombia. The German daily claims that according to the agreement, Iranian Shahab 3 (range 1300-1500 km), Scud-B (285-330 km) and Scud-C (300, 500 and 700 km) will be deployed in the proposed base. It says that Iran also pledged to help Venezuela in rocket technology expertise, including intensive training of officers
    http://www.hudson-ny.org/1714/iran-m...s-in-venezuela
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    Default Cuban missile crisis - a replay further south?

    AdamG,

    Let us for a moment assume the news report is true.

    Given the capacity of US intelligence, why has this not been noted before and placed in the public domain? If it has been noted, but not placed in the public domain - ponder that.

    Now back to the Cuban missile crisis. There are some remarkable similarities. Now will we see a re-run in 2011?

    A quick reaction.
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    Default Hugo's Chutzpah

    Bad boy Hugo refuses to accept as 'Ambassador' the individual who has publicly assailed his government, and accused it of arming drug sellers in Columbia. The psuedo-Ambassador also said he would “safeguard American economic interests and investments,” should he serve in Caracas. I' m sure most host countries would welcome such advance planning.

    http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/5886

    On an earlier occasion, nominee Palmer had stated:
    When asked what his top areas of concern are, Palmer cited “threats to human rights and fundamental freedoms” in Venezuela, including threats to “freedom of expression and of the press, the right to own private property, and freedom of association for civil society.” He further criticized “the increasing centralization of power in the executive branch,” and President Chavez’s “explicit rejection of the separation of powers.
    http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/5560

    Just right for a working relationship.

    The context includes some of the Wikileaks material, such as this summary of US intentions to "reassert US leadership in the region":

    Kelly, who played a primary role as "mediator" during last year's coup d'etat in Honduras against President Manuel Zelaya, classifies President Hugo Chavez as an "enemy" in his report. "Know the enemy: We have to better understand how Chavez thinks and what he intends...To effectively counter the threat he represents, we need to know better his objectives and how he intends to pursue them. This requires better intelligence in all of our countries". Further on in the memo, Kelly confesses that President Chavez is a "formidable foe", but, he adds, "he certainly can be taken.
    http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/5870

    Further:

    Kelly also revealed the pressure Washington has been applying to Mercosur (Market of the South) to not accept Venezuela as a full member in the regional trade bloc. "With regard to Mercosur, we should not be timid in stating that Venezuela's membership will torpedo US interest in even considering direct negotiations with the trading bloc.
    Economic warfare always a crucial diplomatic effort.

    Congratulations to the Obama administration for using the Foreign Service Apparatus to demonstrate continuity with little Bush.
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    Cool On Hugo...

    President Chavez has so much hate for the U.S. that he has placed blinders on the range of possibiltities that could actually benefit Veenzuaelans and the people of South America. I submit the following "What ifs" for consideration and debate:

    What if: the U.S. and Cuba expanded diplomatic relations and sought a cooperative agreement to promote stability in the Western Hemisphere through collaboration and unity of vision? How could that shape the future security of the Western Hemisphere??? If the two ideological competitors in the Western Hemisphere finally dropped the rhetoric and pushed for the benefit of its citizens... What if???

    What if: Hugo Chavez realized that Islamists are "BAD" and that the Islamists (I.E. Iran) are just using him to gain access to the U.S. Although the U.S. has its faults (y suele de sulfur), it is really the best thing going... (author's prejudice). What if???

    What if: Hugo worked to capitalize on NAFTA and expand the benefits to South America through a cooperative economic and security agreement with the U.S. , instead of wasting Venezuelan resources to counter "U.S. Imperialists." Opening diplomatic relations could open economic opportunity and enable the "Bolivarian Movement" to provide jobs for "the people" throughout South America. If Chavez's true intention is empowering the people, then this should be a "rational" option... What if???

    What if: The Wayuu tribe that converted en masse to Islam and openly welcomed Hezbollah under the auspices of the Chavez government realized that Islam is not synonymous with Islamism, rejected radical Islam (and Hezbollah) and sought to eradicate Islamists (see Bale's definition for Islamism). What if???

    What if: The U.S., Cuba, and Brazil stopped using "the people" as the reason for their actions and actually worked together to actually benefit "the people" instead of their own political standing (U.S. included). Government for by the people for the people- just saying... What if???

    FOSHIZZLE SENDS

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    Default Nomination of Larry Palmer for Ambassador to Venezuela

    This link has a detailed explanation of what happened with the Venezuela nomination:

    http://americasquarterly.org/node/2058

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