The Wikileaks collection

[davidbfpo]

Two contrasting comments on Wikileaks: by a RUSI analyst, which opens with:

The damage to US and allied interests lies less in the embarrassment the leaked cables may have caused and more in the real intelligence they have provided to well-organised and sophisticated international terrorist groups.

Link:http://www.rusi.org/analysis/comment...4D2DD4B6DB505/

By the more international outlook IISS, which IMHO is both wider and less alarmist.

Link:http://www.iiss.org/publications/str...-sharing-data/

[Stan]

From the folks at the Danger Room...

Work for the military? Couldn’t help but view a purloined WikiLeaks cable on your desktop?

The Pentagon has to insist you delete it.

This being the Pentagon, the memo tells information experts to “delete the affected file(s) by holding down the SHIFT key while pressing the DELETE key for Windows-based systems.”

Would those info professionals not know how to delete?

Much more hysteria at the link !

[davidbfpo]

Thanks to an Australian pointer:

This website Dazzlepod has already revolutionised the way you can access, comment on and search the cables.

Link:http://dazzlepod.com/cable/

[JMA]

From the folks at the Danger Room...

Much more hysteria at the link !

Still can't figure out why there is more hysteria about Assange than there was about Hanoi Jane. The idiots at Justice still haven't figured out what crime Assange has committed while aiding and abetting the enemy is clear cut.

[Stan]

Still can't figure out why there is more hysteria about Assange than there was about Hanoi Jane. The idiots at Justice still haven't figured out what crime Assange has committed while aiding and abetting the enemy is clear cut.

Hey JMA,
Just my opinion as always

At least Jane Fonda openly expressed regret for her misgivings, albeit much later.

Let's be fair, there wasn't an internet in 72 and there certainly wasn't much in the way of State cables to leak either.

If, and a big IF at that, one person dies due to Assange's meddling, he will definitely pay big and rightfully so.

The post from Danger Room is however a cop out for DOD. I say burn the SOBs that view and store leaked classified material. We made a deal with enlistment; so it's guilty by default or ignorance, and ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Regards, Stan

[JMA]

Hey JMA,
Just my opinion as always

At least Jane Fonda openly expressed regret for her misgivings, albeit much later.

Let's be fair, there wasn't an internet in 72 and there certainly wasn't much in the way of State cables to leak either.

If, and a big IF at that, one person dies due to Assange's meddling, he will definitely pay big and rightfully so.

The post from Danger Room is however a cop out for DOD. I say burn the SOBs that view and store leaked classified material. We made a deal with enlistment; so it's guilty by default or ignorance, and ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Regards, Stan

OK, so it took Hanoi Jane 16 years to apologise. So lets give Assange 15 years to apologise otherwise Justice can create a crime to nail him with. Deal?

[anonamatic]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41241414...s_in_security/

The unverified contention is that there's no link. I call bull#### on this.

Manning made statements to Adrian Lamo that contradict this. Assange has contradicted himself multiple times on the same subject, and there's the whole ftp site they set up just for Manning that's been documented as well.

[JMA]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41241414...s_in_security/

The unverified contention is that there's no link. I call bull#### on this.

Manning made statements to Adrian Lamo that contradict this. Assange has contradicted himself multiple times on the same subject, and there's the whole ftp site they set up just for Manning that's been documented as well.

Who cares? Wikileaks has confirmed to the world outside the US what they always suspected about US foreign policy. Wikileaks has now made it possible for US citizens to learn about the actions of those who "act in their name". Now the world waits to see if the US population will do anything about it or... just change to the next sports channel and ignore the whole thing.

[JMA]

Hey JMA,
Just my opinion as always

At least Jane Fonda openly expressed regret for her misgivings, albeit much later.

Let's be fair, there wasn't an internet in 72 and there certainly wasn't much in the way of State cables to leak either.

If, and a big IF at that, one person dies due to Assange's meddling, he will definitely pay big and rightfully so.

The post from Danger Room is however a cop out for DOD. I say burn the SOBs that view and store leaked classified material. We made a deal with enlistment; so it's guilty by default or ignorance, and ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Regards, Stan

Hi Stan, I am quite frankly not in the least bit concerned what happens to Manning or indeed Assange... but I am very pleased that this stuff has been released into the public domain.

Sure beats having to wait 30 odd years for the release through the Freedom of Information Act (or equivalents around the world) to find out exactly who got up to what and where. As soldiers have and are being held accountable for their actions on the battle field so should the #*@&#@ who worked in the State Department and the Brit Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

[Stan]

Hey JMA,
Sorry, I missed your post on cutting a deal for Assange.
I may need to confer with a legal entity herein as there will be some hefty profits in the balance

Hi Stan, I am quite frankly not in the least bit concerned what happens to Manning or indeed Assange... but I am very pleased that this stuff has been released into the public domain.

I have mixed feelings about everything being dumped onto the public domain, but since I don't link to Wikileaks (nor am I authorized to) my opinion on the matter is skewed.

The most recent releases in the Estonian press and responses by government officials have been positive, and those opinions were nothing "newsworthy" nor were they huge secrets. Sadly, my British and Swedish friends laughed hysterically at the bar last night over recently viewed leaks and I must admit, it's starting to sound like an adult version of kindergarten.

Sure beats having to wait 30 odd years for the release through the Freedom of Information Act (or equivalents around the world) to find out exactly who got up to what and where. As soldiers have and are being held accountable for their actions on the battle field so should the #*@&#@ who worked in the State Department and the Brit Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

Having worked around State personalities for over two decades, I'm only too well aware of the ease in which they share their unfounded opinions. All I can do (and did way back when) is shake my head. My final protest on the dark continent came when (then) February's People Magazine arrived and had a picture of Jack Nicholson on the cover with "You Don't Know Jack !" Having just lost another argument over what was really happening outside and the subsequent submission of that cable, I taped the cover of Jack on our door in the hallway

[Stan]

From the folks at FT.com

Snorre Valen, 26, a Norwegian musician and politician, said he chose to nominate WikiLeaks for promoting human rights and freedom of speech.

Some observers did not rate WikiLeaks’ chances of winning.

“To claim that [Mr Assange’s] actions have in some way promoted ‘fraternity among nations,’ to invoke the famous line in Alfred Nobel’s will, would be far-fetched, if not altogether inaccurate,” Scott London, a US journalist and Nobel Peace Prize specialist, told the AFP news agency.