Quote Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
I think 4, 5, and 6 can all contribute to that.
You were supposedly "looking at ends". 4, 5 and 6 are not ends but intermediate steps.


Our difference is probably fundamental. I am looking at national security, while you're probably rather in pursuit of giving a big stick to a government.

The latter is no end, though. It's a weapon.