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    Default Far-right extremists are quietly murdering police officers

    A report on 'Think Progress' via Twitter and sub-titled:
    Data shows dozens of officers have been murdered by the far-right over the last decade. But no one seems to be talking about it.
    Several graphics and a map that shows Florida is a "hot spot".
    Link:https://thinkprogress.org/far-right-...-eda32ddbd0b7/
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    A report on 'Think Progress' via Twitter and sub-titled:[/URL]
    Caveat: "Think Progress" is a Progressive/Leftist publication citing the SPLC as a source. Best to find another set of statistics on who those shooters were.
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    I would be very careful about using any reporting from the Southern Poverty Law Center, which has not been fit for purpose for some years now. In addition, you will often find circular confirmation where a Progressive publication cites the same data using different intermediary sources.

    The problem with Progressive definitions of "far-right terrorism" is that they are a catch-all for criminal and political violence carried out by non-Hispanic white Americans; if need be, Hispanics are included, such as was the case with George Zimmerman, who killed Trayvon Martin in 2012 (also in Florida). We find that Christian anti-abortion activists are lumped together with pagan white supremacists, neo-Fascists, neo-National Socialists, and radical Libertarians.

    In the case of TP/SPLC/ADL, the objective is to inflate the number of law enforcement fatalities. To this end, corrections officers are included, as well as officers murdered at traffic stops and serving warrants. With regard to methodology, if a white supremacist who is also a drug dealer responds violently to a warrant being served, is this an act of "far-right terrorism"? In that case, is every black American who kills a law enforcement officer for whatever reason and under whatever circumstances a black supremacist terrorist if they have any materials on the Nation of Islam or the Black Panther Party?

    When we look at data from the FBI's Law Enforcement Officer Killed and Assaulted Program (LEOKA) the following stands out:

    • Black Americans comprised a mean average of more than 39% of assailants of murdered law enforcement officers from 1996 to 2016
    • During this period, black Americans comprised more than 12% and less than 13% of the U.S. population



    When we look at data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics' Arrest-Related Deaths Program (ARD) the following stands out:

    • Black American deaths comprised a mean average of 35% of law enforcement homicides for the years 2003-2009, and 2011
    • For comparable LEOKA data, black Americans comprised a mean average of 44% of assailants of murdered law enforcement officers for the same period
    • The ARD data includes both justified and unjustified law enforcement homicides



    With regard to terrorism in the United States:

    • Some 229 people have been murdered in the US in terrorist acts after September 11, 2001 to present
    • 127 of these have been murdered during Islamist terrorism (55.46%)
    • 74 of these have been murdered during far-right terrorism (32.31%)
    • 28 of these have been murdered during non-far-right terrorism (12.23%)



    Compare these terrorism fatalities to these demographics:

    • 1% of the U.S. population is Muslim
    • 61% of the U.S. population is non-Hispanic white


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    Thanks Azor for this post. I am aware that SPLC has critics and engages in some strange actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    Thanks Azor for this post. I am aware that SPLC has critics and engages in some strange actions.

    Not a problem. I am a quantitative fellow by nature because I find that qualitative evidence is rather anecdotal and skews the perception of what should be objective facts.


    For instance, as an outsider stealing a glance into the circus tent that is America, you might ask why there is such inaction on firearms control given the massacres and high firearm death rates. This is why:


    • Gun control advocates combine firearm deaths for both homicides and suicides, and the latter do not convince advocates for the Second Amendment
    • White Americans, including Hispanics, comprise 72% of the U.S. population
    • The intentional homicide rate among white Americans is 1.90 per 100,000, despite being 4.90 for Americans overall (per UNDOC)
    • Although 1.90 is slightly higher than many other Western countries, albeit slightly lower than Belgium, it is not stark enough for enough white Americans to want more gun control on the whole
    • For black Americans on the whole, the intentional homicide rate is worse than that of Northern Ireland during the Troubles, and even Malaya during the Emergency
    • Basically, most white Americans live in a security environment comparable with their Western peers; most black Americans live in a security environment that is equivalent to a low-level warzone
    • For those that believe racism is non-existent in America, one only has to compare the media coverage of school massacres in predominately white areas with less security than 'inner city' schools, with the coverage of homicides in Chicago



    Of course, given Britain's rate of 0.90 and the fact that knives are simply less effective than guns, you might think that Americans are envious of the British. Some are, particularly the East Coast urban Democrats who gush over British and Commonwealth accents (Morgan, Noah, Oliver, Jeffries, etc). Yet enough white Americans believe that an unfettered Second Amendment protects them from tyrannical governance, despite the 'King of War' and casualties - artillery - being conspicuously absent from the list of permissible weapons. Enough also believe that it keeps them safe from violent criminals. Basically, it is no different than the illusion of control whereby people prefer to drive rather than fly, or people refusing to use seat-belts or airbags because sometimes these safety features cause death and injury.


    As for law enforcement officers in the US being more disposed to using deadly force? Well, at any time they can be dealing with an armed and intoxicated suspect; at any time, they can cross from Provence into Helmand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Thoughts?
    When the idea of 'children' includes those individuals up to age 25 in their statistics, there's an agenda afoot.
    As I said, caveats are in order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamG View Post
    When the idea of 'children' includes those individuals up to age 25 in their statistics, there's an agenda afoot.
    I didn't see that. That sounds rather typical of the SPLC's "methodology".

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    Custom, extra-secure BlackBerry phones remain a staple of the criminal underworld, and a recent bust just illustrated this point. Motherboard has learned that the FBI arrested Vincent Ramos, the founder of the well-established phone mod seller Phantom Secure, for allegedly aiding criminal organizations that include the Sinaloa drug cartel. The company altered BlackBerry and Android devices to disable common features (including the camera and web browsing) while adding Pretty Good Privacy for encrypted conversations. And it wasn't just turning a blind eye to the shady backgrounds of its customers, according to investigators -- it was fully aware of who was involved.
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    MS-13 has directed its members to “take out a cop” on Long Island — prompting the NYPD to put its officers on high alert, according to a new memo obtained by The Post. Police are hunting for the suspect, a tall, light-skinned Hispanic man with a thin build and a tattoo of three dots next to his eye.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/19...cop-in-ny.html
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