Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Gaddafi's sub-Saharan mercenaries

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Council Member AdamG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Hiding from the Dreaded Burrito Gang
    Posts
    3,096

    Default Gaddafi's sub-Saharan mercenaries

    This is an interesting twist.

    Khamis Gaddafi, a son of Libya ruler Moammar Gaddafi, recruited French-speaking Sub-Saharan African mercenaries to shoot live rounds at pro-democracy protestors, reported Al Arabiya, citing sources in the city of Benghazi.

    These sources claim this knowledge because they’ve captured some of the mercenaries, who confessed their identity and the fact that Khamis Gaddafi hired them.
    The sources also said they saw non-Libyan mercenaries flown in from other African countries land in the Benina International Airport near Benghazi.
    Read more: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/1146...#ixzz1Edg935tB

    For the doubting Thomas'


    An alleged African mercenary is lyched by an enfuriated mob of protestors. The image is taken from a video posted on YouTube.
    http://observers.france24.com/conten...youth-movement
    Last edited by AdamG; 02-21-2011 at 11:48 PM.
    A scrimmage in a Border Station
    A canter down some dark defile
    Two thousand pounds of education
    Drops to a ten-rupee jezail


    http://i.imgur.com/IPT1uLH.jpg

  2. #2
    Council Member AdamG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Hiding from the Dreaded Burrito Gang
    Posts
    3,096

    Default

    Credible Western intelligence reports say that Muammar Gaddafi has fled Libya and is on his way to exile in Venezuela, according to William Hague, the foreign secretary.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...rotesters.html

    Two Libyan Air Force Mirage jet fighters unexpectedly flew to Malta this afternoon with their pilots claiming they escaped to Malta after having been ordered to bomb protesters who have taken control of the second city of Benghazi.
    The pilots told the Maltese authorities that they left from a base near Tripoli. Their aircraft were armed with air to ground rockets.
    http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles...licopters-land
    A scrimmage in a Border Station
    A canter down some dark defile
    Two thousand pounds of education
    Drops to a ten-rupee jezail


    http://i.imgur.com/IPT1uLH.jpg

  3. #3
    Council Member Dayuhan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Latitude 17° 5' 11N, Longitude 120° 54' 24E, altitude 1499m. Right where I want to be.
    Posts
    3,137

    Default

    Credible Western intelligence reports say that Muammar Gaddafi has fled Libya and is on his way to exile in Venezuela, according to William Hague, the foreign secretary.
    From the shores of Tripoli to the Halls of Montezuma... or at least the halls of Hugo. It would be interesting and probably a bit surreal to have a recording of their conversation.

    It's been denied, though.

    Looks like a very bloody one, but it's hard to see how he'll hang on. Guess the key question is how much of the military will stay loyal.

    Interesting quotes...

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1915258/

    Amr Moussa, Secretary-General of the Arab League, summed up the cause of people’s fury in one word: “humiliation.” More than economic hardship, it is humiliation that has most rankled the people.
    “I expect things in Libya to end as they did in Romania,” the Western diplomat said, referring to the 1989 demise of the Nicolae Ceausescu regime. “They hunted down and executed the leader,” he said.

  4. #4
    Council Member M-A Lagrange's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    In Barsoom, as a fact!
    Posts
    976

    Default

    Don't wanna be the bird bringing bad news but according to French news paper Le Monde:
    Libyan air planes opened fire with live rounds on crowd in Tripoly and the Gaddafi made a 22 seconds apparition on TV to deny he was in Venezuela.
    The army (or mercenaries) opened fire with live round on protesters and to day the situation is "quiete".
    (http://fr.news.yahoo.com/64/20110222...e-acb1c83.html)

    Does not really looks like it will turn as in Romania. But the battle is short and the days are long.
    Still, good luck guy for bringing him down.

  5. #5
    Council Member AdamG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Hiding from the Dreaded Burrito Gang
    Posts
    3,096

    Default

    In sharp contrast to Egypt’s widely respected armed forces, the Libyan army, air force and navy, led by the self-styled Col. Moammar Gadhafi, is regarded as a grim, murderous joke, even compared to other African militaries.

    Nothing suggests Libya’s military possesses either the professionalism, the discipline, or commands the popular respect to fill a power vacuum or serve as a transitional structure to civilian government. Ever since the mercurial and increasingly erratic Col. Gadhafi seized power 42 years ago, Libya’s military has been a pawn in his wide schemes and ill-fated international adventures.
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1915393/

    However, a single brigade of the Revolutionary Guards Corps – estimated at about 3,000 soldiers – is better trained, better paid and supposedly loyal to the aging Col. Gadhafi. Drawn from the Guards is perhaps the oddest force in the militaries of the Arab world, a clutch of female soldiers who serve as the colonel’s close personal protection. They are – facetiously – known as the “Green Nuns” after Col. Gadhafi’s penchant for using that colour to mark ideologically significant elements in the personality cult that he has fostered.
    Last edited by AdamG; 02-22-2011 at 12:40 PM.
    A scrimmage in a Border Station
    A canter down some dark defile
    Two thousand pounds of education
    Drops to a ten-rupee jezail


    http://i.imgur.com/IPT1uLH.jpg

  6. #6
    Council Member Bob's World's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    2,706

    Default

    This would suggest that soon it will be former Libyan military personnel that will begin to show up in the mercenary ranks of other as they too will have to flee like their boss did to avoid the consequences of their actions over the years.
    Robert C. Jones
    Intellectus Supra Scientia
    (Understanding is more important than Knowledge)

    "The modern COIN mindset is when one arrogantly goes to some foreign land and attempts to make those who live there a lesser version of one's self. The FID mindset is when one humbly goes to some foreign land and seeks first to understand, and then to help in some small way for those who live there to be the best version of their own self." Colonel Robert C. Jones, US Army Special Forces (Retired)

  7. #7
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Durban, South Africa
    Posts
    3,902

    Default

    The quote was:

    Credible Western intelligence reports say that Muammar Gaddafi has fled Libya...
    Credible what? ... ROTFLMAO ...

  8. #8
    Council Member J Wolfsberger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    806

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by JMA View Post
    Credible Western intelligence reports say that Muammar Gaddafi has fled Libya...
    You probably misunderstood. I'm sure it was a reference to CNN.
    John Wolfsberger, Jr.

    An unruffled person with some useful skills.

  9. #9
    Council Member M-A Lagrange's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    In Barsoom, as a fact!
    Posts
    976

    Default After the battle

    From the French news paper Le Monde:
    Mercenaires Africains:
    Dans toutes les villes de l'est libyen, de Derna à Benghazi, on affirme que de tels mercenaires ont débarqué dans l'aéroport de Labrak, à 65km de Derna, et de celui de Benghazi dont le tarmac a ensuite été rendu hors d'usage par les habitants pour stopper l'arrivée de troupes supplémentaires. L'école publique de Chahhat, l'antique Cyrène, à environ 250km de Benghazi, a été reconvertie en cachots pour plus de 150 de ces prisonniers. Souvent blessés, allongés sous des couvertures, ils font face, muets, aux hommes qui les interrogent.
    Difficile d'imaginer Jabar Ahmad, 70 ans, en mercenaire sanguinaire. Carte d'identité à l'appui, il explique être originaire de Sabhab, ville du sud libyen, et "avoir reçu un billet d'avion gratuit à destination de Tripoli pour manifester en soutien du colonel". Il dit avoir été "le premier surpris" par l'atterrissage à Labrak, puis par le transfert en bus dans un camp militaire, au milieu des combats qui ont d'abord opposé les habitants et l'armée, puis l'armée entre elle, chars loyaux contre chars ralliés au peuple. Il a eu "tellement peur" qu'il s'est caché avant d'être pris puis torturé.
    Beaucoup d'autres donnent l'impression d'être comme lui, des Touaregs dépassés par la situation. Les combats sur place auraient fait 40 morts. Le camp militaire et ses chars abandonnés, qui bordent les ruines antiques, sont devenus le terrain de jeu des enfants. Les prisonniers sont pris en charge par les militaires qui ont fait défection.
    A Benghazi, la morgue du docteur Habib est encombrée. Elle contient des corps que personne n'est venu réclamer, dont ceux de colosses à la peau sombre. "Celui-ci s'appelle, selon ses papiers, Krown Nicolas Lacnka Wohoin, ne me dites pas que c'est un nom libyen ou touareg!", s'emporte le docteur. Cet homme a le crâne tailladé. "Des coups de sabre: des armes que les habitants de Benghazi ont utilisé le dernier jour de combat dimanche", explique-t-il.
    http://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/articl...or=AL-32280184

    I translate:

    African mercenaries :

    In all the East Libya cities, from Derna to Benghazi, it is reported that such mercenaries have come from the Labrak airport, 65 Km from Derna, and from the one in Benghazi which the tarmac has been damaged by the inhabitants to stop the arrival of supplementary troops. The Chahhat public school, the antique Cyren, has been converted into jail for more than 150 prisonners. Often wounded, lying under blankets, they face, mute, the men who interrogate them.
    Difficult to imagine Jabar Ahmad, 70 years old, as a bloody mercenary. With his ID cart as a proof, he explains that he is from Sabhad, a city from South Libya, and that he received a free plane ticket for Tripoli to a support demonstration for the colonel. He says that he was the first one to be surprised by landing in Labrak, then by his transfer in bus to a military camp, in the middle of the battle which first opposed the inhabitants and the army, then the army among them, loyal battle tanks against insurgents tanks. He was so afraid that he hided before being taken prisoner and then tortured.
    Many other give the impression to be as him, Touaregs over passed by the situation. The combats in sites would have made 40 cusualties. The military camp and abandoned tanks, which are bordering the antique ruins, are now playground for children. The prisoners are taken in charge by the military who defected.
    In Benghazi, Doctor Habib’s morgue is full. There is there corps that no one came to claim, as those of strong dark skin men. That one is called, according to his ID, Krown Nicolas Lacnka Wohoin, don’t tell me he is a Libyan Touareg, yield the doctor. The man has the skull slashed. Saber wounds: the weapons Benghazi people used the last combat day Sunday, he explains.

    Once again… will we ever know what really did happen there?
    But yes, the quoted name is definitively not Libyan neither Chadian nor even Congolese.

  10. #10
    Council Member AdamG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Hiding from the Dreaded Burrito Gang
    Posts
    3,096

    Default

    WASHINGTON—The government of Col. Moammar Gadhafi hasn't destroyed significant stockpiles of mustard gas and other chemical-weapons agents, raising fears in Washington about what could happen to them—and whether they may be used—as Libya slides further into chaos.

    Tripoli also maintains control of aging Scud B missiles, U.S. officials said, as well as 1,000 metric tons of uranium yellowcake and vast amounts of conventional weapons that Col. Gadhafi has channeled in the past to militants operating in countries like Sudan and Chad.

    Current and former U.S. officials said in interviews that Washington's counterproliferation operations against Libya over the past decade have scored gains, in particular the dismantling of Tripoli's nascent nuclear-weapons program and its Scud C missile stockpiles. But the level of instability in Libya, and Col. Gadhafi's history of brutality, continues to make the U.S. focus on the arms and chemical agents that remain, they said.

    "When you have a guy who's as irrational as Gadhafi with some serious weapons at his disposal, it's always a concern," said a U.S. official. "But we haven't yet seen him move to use any kind of mustard gas or chemical weapon" during the unrest.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories
    A scrimmage in a Border Station
    A canter down some dark defile
    Two thousand pounds of education
    Drops to a ten-rupee jezail


    http://i.imgur.com/IPT1uLH.jpg

Similar Threads

  1. Books and Other References on Modern Mercenaries
    By IntelTrooper in forum RFIs & Members' Projects
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 06-11-2009, 10:57 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •