And Libya goes on...

[taabistan]

You're right. Why do we even have borders? Let's get rid of those as well.

[ganulv]

The tension between local sovereignty and universal rights can be a productive one. But I do wish we had something like an interventionists’ Hippocratic Oath.

[AdamG]

It just got weirder.

BENGHAZI, Libya (AP) -- The Libyan rebels' military commander was killed by his comrades while in custody after he was arrested by the opposition's leadership on suspicion of treason, witnesses said Friday, in a sign of disarray that posed a major setback for the movement battling Moammar Gadhafi.

The slaying of Abdel-Fattah Younis raised fear and uncertainty in Benghazi, the de facto rebel capital. Thousands marched behind his coffin, wrapped in the rebels' tricolor flag, to the graveyard for his burial, chanting that he was a martyr "beloved by God." Troops fired a military salute as the coffin arrived, and angry and grieving supporters fired wildly into the air with automatic weapons.

At the graveside, Younis' son, Ashraf, broke down, crying and screaming as they lowered the body into the ground and - in a startling and risky display in a city that was the first to shed Gadhafi's rule nearly six months ago - pleaded hysterically for the return of the Libyan leader to bring stability.

"We want Moammar to come back! We want the green flag back!" he shouted at the crowd, referring to Gadhafi's national banner.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...07-29-11-49-41

[JMA]

Nightly Britain bombs Tripoli. Bar death, what do we achieve?

Jenkins misses a point that if the politicians decide that military intervention is necessary then the military must salute and get on with the job.

The thought of some chinless wonders in the civil service being able to constrain the will of an elected government is more scary than what the Bush/Blair combination got up to.

What has led to the failure is that the military were constrained in how they were carry out the intervention to the point of an emasculated effort.

Yes Cameron and Sarkozy were probably influenced to act through domestic political pressure but were unable to carry out any meaningful intervention without the US leading the charge.

A reluctant Obama agreed to a solid 48 hours to kick the intervention off but then through the council of his chorus of clowns came up with the "no boots on the ground" crap and left the rest up to hopelessly inadequate NATO assets while remaining firmly in charge.

Anyone remember the three stooges?

The West is not only in trouble on the economic side, international foreign policy is in a total shambles...