How soldiers deal with the job of killing

[Firn]

That that kind of matchup existed indicates the hell that fat kid must have been going through. In one of the interviews with the body slammer he said this has been going on for years and I believe he said that he was the target of many. Getting picked on by somebody so much younger, smaller and weaker further indicates that there was a whole group tormenting that kid. The body slammee would not have gone through with such a mismatch if he didn't think he had a lot of backup.

It seems that way from the video. I think it was another cruel twist in a long and sad story - just look how the other persons react in that video.

I think that in general we humans are very good at coming up with arguments to support our reactions and the one of the group. Some of them hold water, others not so much, some are rather objective others rely on perceptions and some apply just for 'our' good side and not for the bad others.

(From Wikipeda, on the 'Indian mutiny')

In terms of sheer numbers, the casualties were much higher on the Indian side. A letter published after the fall of Delhi in the "Bombay Telegraph" and reproduced in the British press testified to the scale of the Indian casualties:

.... All the city's people found within the walls of the city of Delhi when our troops entered were bayoneted on the spot, and the number was considerable, as you may suppose, when I tell you that in some houses forty and fifty people were hiding. These were not mutineers but residents of the city, who trusted to our well-known mild rule for pardon. I am glad to say they were disappointed.[117]

Edward Vibart, a 19-year-old officer, recorded his experience:

It was literally murder... I have seen many bloody and awful sights lately but such a one as I witnessed yesterday I pray I never see again. The women were all spared but their screams on seeing their husbands and sons butchered, were most painful... Heaven knows I feel no pity, but when some old grey bearded man is brought and shot before your very eyes, hard must be that man's heart I think who can look on with indifference...

Being 'soft' against the enemy has been of course in general seen as a bigger weakness then being hard and tough. You don't want to be the weak guy and you want a brother in arm which is aggressive on the battlefield against the enemy.

Note that in the first case civilians among them women were killed, while in the second 'only' male civilians were murdered, showing that it depended also on the circumstances, the unit and the leadership. Revenge seemed to have been a strong motivator. The first is glad that they did not give any quarter, while the second says he feels no pity, but that some of the killings were hard on him.

Such actions seem to have partly justified by such reports, similar to the one, horrific murder, posted earlier by JMA.

The incidents of rape committed by Indian rebels against European women and girls appalled the British public. These atrocities were often used to justify the British reaction to the rebellion. British newspapers printed various eyewitness accounts of the rape of English women and girls. One such account published by The Times, regarding an incident where 48 English girls as young as 10 had been raped by Indian rebels in Delhi. Karl Marx later claimed that this was propaganda stating that the account was written by a clergyman in Bangalore, far from the events of the rebellion, though he produced no evidence to support this.[121]

Even when I today read the stories I feel the emotions.

[JMA]

Even when I today read the stories I feel the emotions.

That was 1857. Things were a little different for the Brits then.

But then fast forward to the 1980s and zimbabwe to the Gukurahundi genocide.

That great African liberator and darling of the political left Robert Mugabe committed a genocide in zimbabwe where men, women and children were massacred amongst the Ndebele people of that country. (20,000 confirmed but likely to have been much more.)

Not too much was heard out of North American and European universities over this of course.

Some light at the end of the tunnel though...Gukurahundi perpetrators face prosecution

Is it going to happen? Nah... no oil in zimbabwe you see and no balls in the West to address this genocide.

[ganulv]

That great African liberator and darling of the political left Robert Mugabe committed a genocide in zimbabwe where men, women and children were massacred amongst the Ndebele people of that country. (20,000 confirmed but likely to have been much more.)

Not too much was heard out of North American and European universities over this of course.

Some light at the end of the tunnel though...Gukurahundi perpetrators face prosecution

Is it going to happen? Nah... no oil in zimbabwe you see and no balls in the West to address this genocide.

On the other hand, in Central America one of the real bastards of recent history is having some of his dirty laundry aired for the world to see—his countrymen are well aware of who he is and what he’s done—before his time on earth is done.

[JMA]

On the other hand, in Central America one of the real bastards of recent history is having some of his dirty laundry aired for the world to see—his countrymen are well aware of who he is and what he’s done—before his time on earth is done.

They should nail him too, no question.

[ganulv]

They should nail him too, no question.

I would put decent money down that within a couple of weeks Efraín is going to be diagnosed with that incapacitating disease that former strongmen tend to suffer from after the indictment is read.

[JMA]

I would put decent money down that within a couple of weeks Efran is going to be diagnosed with that incapacitating disease that former strongmen tend to suffer from after the indictment is read.

Doesn't matter whether its a left wing thug or a right wing right thug they must all go down.