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    At the next NATO meeting....

    Can the representatives from Holland and Turkey please explain to us just WTH is going on???

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    Turkey referendum: Riot police use water cannon and horses to disperse protesters outside Turkish consulate in Rotterdam
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world...try-1.3007083#

    In a number of the videos and photos coming out of the clearance of the demo by Dutch riot police you will notice groups of young Turkish men throwing the fascist Grey Wolf hand signs...

    The Turkish Grey Wolf group is in fact a hard core 300% fascist group responsible in the 80/90s on the streets in Germany violence against those Turks who were considered to be leftist and or liberal/secular .

    Grey Wolf fighters have been spotted fighting together with FSA and the Turkish Army in Syria....

    So it is unusual to have Turkey call the Dutch Nazi's and fascists when they themselves are fascists...

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    Erdogan's hypocrisy knows no limits....

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    #Live: Turkish President @RT_Erdogan says #Netherlands will pay the price for setting the dogs on Turks in Netherlands.

    If one looks back at the demos being conducted all across Turley originally against the Erdogan corruption and son charges..Erdogan used water cannons..dogs...roit gas and brutality against anyone in those demonstrations and they were Turks beating up on Turks.....

    Not Dutch police telling Turkish rioters they must disperse before going into action...as they had no demo permit...

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    BREAK Erdogan: "We will teach them international diplomacy"
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/eur

    Erdogan AKP protest against #Netherlands with pressing oranges and drinking juice, orange=Dutch royal color

    WELL at least it is heathy and Turkey has a lot of oranges...

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    "At some point moral price of including Ankara in NATO, an alliance of democracies, will outweigh strat. benefits"
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/ergodan...st-1489090280#

    Denmark rejects a Turkish official visit request for political rallies....

    Reupping a blog on Erdogan's use of fights with the West as a tool in in electoral politics. From March... 2014
    http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debat...ns-elections/#

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    .@MFATurkey's statement regarding the relations between Turkey and the Netherlands
    http://bit.ly/2mWhRLD

    Çavuşoğlu, fresh from calling European countries fascist, says that they have kings and queens with powers like the presidential system

    Depicts just little Turkish politicians really understand European countries with this type of argument....

    NOW Erdogan is just plain stupid....Dutch and German tourists have been the backbone of the Turkish tourist industry for years and that is now about to fall to zero....

    Erdoğan threatens to revoke clearance for Dutch planes after row over FM visit -
    http://buff.ly/2mf3gHN
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    WTHeck has the Turkish leadership be drinking to much of lately?????

    Pres Advisor Ertem: "Dutch firms must not be afraid of Turkey... As the EU goes towards fascism, Turkey is the safest country for firms."


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    WHAT is interesting is that the German and Dutch rants and activities directed against them by Erdogan started right after his last Putin visit.

    Timing is extremely interesting....

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    Professor Tahir Abbas, now @ RUSI was in Turkey teaching for several years till 2016 and has this commentary on the Dutch-Turkish spat:http://tahirabbas.co.uk/index.php/du...ot-make-right/

    The reporting here is very poor IMHO. I do wonder if the planned AKP and President Erdogan supporting rallies are seen locally as threats to public order, with possible Kurdish / ISIS attacks and opponents of the AKP holding protests, including the PKK which has had some support in Western Europe.

    Add in the wider context, especially with elections looming and the "strong arm" tactics seen in Turkey of late - Turkey's actions will not have had much support.
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    A different theme, with a documentary (47 mins), by a BBC World Service reporter, a Chechen-Jordanian:
    In this outstanding investigation, journalist Murad Batal Shishani uncovers the clandestine international network of Russian assassins dispatched by the Kremlin to liquidate Russia's enemies abroad. Turkey has become a haven for Caucasian and Central Asian Islamist fighters fleeing threats at home. The killings highlight the intrusion of criminal elements into Russian security services, as well as how Istanbul is becoming a secret international battleground, as Islamists and spies flock to the city.
    Link:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-39186749
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    "Turkish consul general lied about minister's plan & used multiple convoys in attempt to throw off police" - mayor of #Rotterdam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    Professor Tahir Abbas, now @ RUSI was in Turkey teaching for several years till 2016 and has this commentary on the Dutch-Turkish spat:http://tahirabbas.co.uk/index.php/du...ot-make-right/

    The reporting here is very poor IMHO. I do wonder if the planned AKP and President Erdogan supporting rallies are seen locally as threats to public order, with possible Kurdish / ISIS attacks and opponents of the AKP holding protests, including the PKK which has had some support in Western Europe.

    Add in the wider context, especially with elections looming and the "strong arm" tactics seen in Turkey of late - Turkey's actions will not have had much support.
    March 6th, Turkish PM: “AKP wont do elex campaign in Holland due to elex in Holland. Shouldn’t be probs there after”

    Who changed decision?


    21 Nov 2012, #Turkey urgently requested #NATO air defence to protect border cities: #Germany/#Netherlands/#US acted
    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegDat...491475_EN.pdf#
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    Turkey: #Erdogan's chief aide İlnur evik says #Germany has imposed an undeclared arms embargo on #Turkey while Austria openly imposed one.

    Turkey: #Erdogan said today the West armed ALL terror groups in the Middle East, has evidence to prove it & West tries to deceive by lies.

    Dutch PM rejects outright Turkey's demand of apology for deporting Turkish minister, reportedly saying "Are you crazy?"

    Advisor to Turkish president @ikalin1: the West never got over the fact that the Turks took Istanbul (in 1453)

    NETHERLANDS | Mayor of #Rotterdam, Ahmed Aboutaleb, responds to #Erdogan by asking, 'Does he know I'm mayor of a city bombed by the #Nazis?'

    Turkish protestors in Holland:Protestor #1:"Bro shut up they can lock you up". Protestor #2: "What r u talkin about this not Turkey."

    Turkish FM: Dutch ambassador will not be able to set foot in Turkey
    http://buff.ly/2lQUoMg
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    BREAKING: Denmark postpones Turkish Prime Minister's visit to Copenhagen on back of Ankara's tensions with other European countries

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    BREAKING NEWS; Turkish flag in a building at #Dam square in central #Amsterdam. "It looks like they take over the square"

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    Erdoğanist columnist calls on gov’t to ‘set West on fire’ before it occupies Turkey

    http://stockholmcf.org/erdoganist-co...cupies-turkey/

    Appears Erdogan has as much paranoia as does Putin about being invaded....
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    NOTICE just how the Erdogan inflammatory comments/actions towards Holland covered this up completely???

    A scathing assessment of Turkey's constitutional changes by the Venice Commission:
    http://www.venice.coe.int/webforms/d...-AD(2017)005-e

    Well worth reading to fully understand where Erdogan is going...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    NOTICE just how the Erdogan inflammatory comments/actions towards Holland covered this up completely???

    A scathing assessment of Turkey's constitutional changes by the Venice Commission:
    http://www.venice.coe.int/webforms/d...-AD(2017)005-e

    Well worth reading to fully understand where Erdogan is going...
    Turkey's biggest foreign direct investor is #Netherlands, according to official data.

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    Hypocrisy at best: #Turkey violates Vienna convention by systematically denying consular services to critics abroad

    http://stockholmcf.org/turkish-govt-...ritics-abroad/

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    AFP news agency‏Verifizierter Account @AFP

    #UPDATE Erdogan accuses Merkel of 'supporting terrorists'

    Merkel spox: "Chancellor doesn't have the intention to participate in this contest of provocations. [...] Accusations are obviously absurd."


    Ankara (AFP) - Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Monday accused German Chancellor Angela Merkel of "supporting terrorists", in a spiralling row with EU states after the blocking of poll rallies by ministers.

    "Mrs Merkel, why are you hiding terrorists in your country?... Why are you not doing anything?" Erdogan said in an interview with A-Haber television, accusing Berlin of not responding to 4,500 dossiers sent by Ankara on terror suspects.

    "Mrs Merkel, you are supporting terrorists," he added.

    Erdogan said Germany, which Turkey has long accused of harbouring Kurdish militants and wanted suspects from the failed July 15 coup, was "giving support to terror in a ruthless way".

    He also lambasted Merkel for her public backing of Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte in the diplomatic crisis sparked by The Hague's refusal to let Turkish ministers hold rallies in the country ahead of an April 16 referendum on expanding Erdogan's powers.

    German authorities had also last week blocked rallies from taking place, infuriating Ankara.

    Referring to the developments across Europe in recent days, Erdogan reiterated his controversial comparison with the Third Reich.

    "Nazism, we can call this Neo-nazism. A new Nazism tendency," he said.
    A proErdogan commenter from Turkey gets into the act as well....

    Nmık Osmanlı‏ @Jon_Namik 57 Min.vor 57 Minuten
    @AFP We know it for 20 years. Germany supports PKK , DHKPC and other marksist terorists against Turkey. They do it in coordination with CIA
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    BREAKING: Turkish President Erdogan says will go to European Court of Human Rights over Netherlands Dispute.

    Not exactly sure how he will do this as it lays within the realm of each nation state on how they handle diplomatic personnel.....

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