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    Default The foster mother who didn't know

    Last week an Iraqi teenage asylum seeker Ahmed Hassan, who had been in foster care for two years, was convicted for a bomb attack on the London Underground, the bomb was faulty and only partly worked, injuring fifty-one. The foster parents knew nothing about his intentions, nor that for a year he had been subject of a counter-radicalisation action. Hassan awaits sentencing.

    The carers were interviewed by ITV and this link is a detailed account. It ends with:
    We've asked ourselves time and time again 'what did we miss?
    Link:http://www.itv.com/news/2018-03-19/s...suspected-him/
    The BBC News report is shorter:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43463856
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    Default What & Who in Belgium

    A fascinating blog article from Belgium by:
    a journalist working for the Belgian newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws
    The explanation:
    Families of terror suspects often suffer from all kind of prejudice. It is thought that they are covering for their relatives, that they have contributed to the radicalization themselves, or that they quietly are proud. Sometimes that is true — but it seems rather rare, according to research published in the Belgian newspaper ‘Het Laatste Nieuws’. We examined how people landed on the Belgian list of foreign fighters and recruiters — and found that on a total number of 450 cases where authorities acted on external tip-offs, family members who raised the alarm were the most important factor.

    (More on the research process): We based our research on a list of 811 suspected foreign terrorist fighters, people willing to leave for jihad, and recruiters — compiled by the Belgian federal government’s Coordination Unit for Threat Analysis (CUTA, also known as OCAD in Dutch and OCAM in French). Since the allegations often haven’t been proven in court, we don’t mention full identities unless an individual was publicly named and/or convicted already for a terrorist offense. It is crucial to add that a single allegation like the ones we mention, never was enough to be put on the list. That happened only after further investigations resulted in additional evidence. Finally, it has to be stressed that the percentages do not refer to the total number of suspects, but only to the 450 cases for which the list explicitly mentions an external tip-off as first indication or decisive confirmation of the suspected radicalism.
    In a possibly unique way they explain the 'external sources' who provided tip-offs:

    1. 26% denounced by relatives
    2. 25% were flagged by foreign partners (notably Turkey)
    3. 13% gave too much away on social media
    4. 5% were exposed by public sources
    5. 4% spilled the beans themselves (one wrote to the Belgian King)
    6. 2% detected at schools / universities
    7. 1% reported by employers / co-workers
    8. 24% could not be classified (amendment after author update)


    The individuals merely detected by police and intelligence work (or without any mention of external sources, at least) were not included in the 450 cases I've studied, so they are the remainder of the total number of 811.
    Link:https://emmejihad.wordpress.com/2018...amily-members/
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    Default Widow of Westminster attacker 'sorry she was not more vigilant'

    Both the mother and wife of Khalid Masood, who killed four pedestrians and a police officer in a car and knife attack @ Westminster Bridge and the Palace of Westminster in March 2017, have offered their evidence on what they knew beforehand.
    Link:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ry-personality
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    Default Man charged over US mid-term elections 'bomb plot'

    A "lone wolf" example of a plot detected and in the USA:
    A man who planned to blow himself up in Washington DC on the day of next month's mid-term elections has been held and charged, US prosecutors say.They say Paul Rosenfeld, 56, built a 200lb (91kg) explosive device and wanted to detonate it on the National Mall in the capital on 6 November.
    They say he wanted to draw attention to his belief in "sortition" - a political theory that advocates the random selection of government officials.
    This came after an individual had received letters and text messages from the suspect about the plot, and had alerted the authorities.
    Link:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...on-day-n918771 and cited text from https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45818990


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    Default After Melbourne: a view from Australia Part 2

    From an Australian newspaper, written after the Melbourne street attack (where three were stabbed, one died and culprit was shot dead):
    Most terrorism experts are agreed that the untempered lecturing of Muslim communities is counterproductive. It denies their history of co-operation and hints at some sinister recalcitrance. But it’s unlikely that these very public addresses are intended for Islamic leaders – they’re meant to reinforce a general impression of the government’s strength, even if it may perversely undermine it.
    I spoke with one federal police officer with extensive experience in community policing and liaison with mosques. “Generally, the relationship between police and the Muslim community is good,” they said. “Counterterrorist and intelligence agencies understand that we get a lot of our intelligence from within the Islamic community, so it is important to foster a strong and lasting relationship. Generally, there is a multicultural liaison officer in each city, [for example] the City of Dandenong, that works directly with all the different communities and their leaders. These liaison officers are often the first point of contact between the community leaders and police. Some of the mosques tend to not be as receptive and are sceptical of police, while others have integrated well and collaborate well with police, sharing information openly and freely.
    “My concern from a policing perspective is to not demonise the Muslim community. They are our primary source of intelligence in relation to radicalised individuals. I don’t think the greater community appreciate that this is where we get our intelligence from – members within that community. They have to continue to feel comfortable in coming forward and co-operating with police.”
    Peter Lentini reinforced this: “The record needs to be set straight: when these problems started... take an investigation like [Operation] Pendennis – they actually began with tips from Muslim communities themselves. So that myth is shattered. That’s extremely important. It demonstrates that Muslims follow the law. I’ve written extensively on this, as have others. Many of these people have come from circumstances that anyone in a uniform is someone who may harm them. So for them to come to police, it’s a big vote of confidence in the state.
    Link:https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/...15423732007149

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