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    Default The foster mother who didn't know

    Last week an Iraqi teenage asylum seeker Ahmed Hassan, who had been in foster care for two years, was convicted for a bomb attack on the London Underground, the bomb was faulty and only partly worked, injuring fifty-one. The foster parents knew nothing about his intentions, nor that for a year he had been subject of a counter-radicalisation action. Hassan awaits sentencing.

    The carers were interviewed by ITV and this link is a detailed account. It ends with:
    We've asked ourselves time and time again 'what did we miss?
    The BBC News report is shorter:
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    Default What & Who in Belgium

    A fascinating blog article from Belgium by:
    a journalist working for the Belgian newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws
    The explanation:
    Families of terror suspects often suffer from all kind of prejudice. It is thought that they are covering for their relatives, that they have contributed to the radicalization themselves, or that they quietly are proud. Sometimes that is true — but it seems rather rare, according to research published in the Belgian newspaper ‘Het Laatste Nieuws’. We examined how people landed on the Belgian list of foreign fighters and recruiters — and found that on a total number of 450 cases where authorities acted on external tip-offs, family members who raised the alarm were the most important factor.

    (More on the research process): We based our research on a list of 811 suspected foreign terrorist fighters, people willing to leave for jihad, and recruiters — compiled by the Belgian federal government’s Coordination Unit for Threat Analysis (CUTA, also known as OCAD in Dutch and OCAM in French). Since the allegations often haven’t been proven in court, we don’t mention full identities unless an individual was publicly named and/or convicted already for a terrorist offense. It is crucial to add that a single allegation like the ones we mention, never was enough to be put on the list. That happened only after further investigations resulted in additional evidence. Finally, it has to be stressed that the percentages do not refer to the total number of suspects, but only to the 450 cases for which the list explicitly mentions an external tip-off as first indication or decisive confirmation of the suspected radicalism.
    In a possibly unique way they explain the 'external sources' who provided tip-offs:

    1. 26% denounced by relatives
    2. 25% were flagged by foreign partners (notably Turkey)
    3. 13% gave too much away on social media
    4. 5% were exposed by public sources
    5. 4% spilled the beans themselves (one wrote to the Belgian King)
    6. 2% detected at schools / universities
    7. 1% reported by employers / co-workers
    8. 24% could not be classified (amendment after author update)

    The individuals merely detected by police and intelligence work (or without any mention of external sources, at least) were not included in the 450 cases I've studied, so they are the remainder of the total number of 811.
    Last edited by davidbfpo; 04-17-2018 at 03:01 PM. Reason: Amended after author update

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