The new Libya: various aspects

[Graycap]

Pissing contest? No thanks.

I've my experiences and my knowledge and I've tried to share them with the limits given by the use of a language that is not my native one. That's all.
Too laborious, given my poor english, to try to explain my words when primary intentions don't seem to be constructive. You have quoted my words but I don't understand where I should find inconsistencies (pls let me in my ignorance... )

Anyway, reading this amazing forum, I've come to know your nickname for one of the most interesting and non-conventional member. For these reasons let me sketch you very little aspects: a country of minus than 3 million people with very little expectations and very friendly (the only arabs italian speaking and doing it very well...), no real taxation thanks to oil, senior levels run by European and Americans, no central power to speak of (and maintain through work and taxes) until the King has his "toys" in the europeans casinos, absolute cosmopolitan (a very big jew community for example), people work just as they found useful, fantastic weather and historic legacies of roman era that only Italy has.

Name it as you like and let's knock it off.

If I remember correctly one of the forum member used to have a citation in his signature that sounded something like that: real knowledge is experience.
Amen.

[AdamG]

China offered huge stockpiles of weapons to Colonel Moammar Gadhafi during the final months of his regime, according to papers that describe secret talks about shipments via Algeria and South Africa.

Documents obtained by The Globe and Mail show that state-controlled Chinese arms manufacturers were prepared to sell weapons and ammunition worth at least $200-million to the embattled Col. Gadhafi in late July, a violation of United Nations sanctions.

Appendices stapled to the memo, and scattered nearby, show the deadly items under discussion: truck-mounted rocket launchers; fuel-air explosive missiles; and anti-tank missiles, among others. Perhaps most controversially, the Chinese apparently offered Col. Gadhafi’s men the QW-18, a surface-to-air missile small enough for a soldier to carry on his shoulder – roughly similar to a U.S. Stinger, capable of bringing down some military aircraft.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2152875/

[Backwards Observer]

“Algeria played an important role, helping Gadhafi get his Chinese weapons,” Mr. Badi said. “That’s okay,” he added, with a mischievous grin, “because we will send weapons back for the revolutions in their countries.”

China offered Gadhafi huge stockpiles of arms: Libyan memos - Globe and Mail - Sept 3, 2011.

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The CIA worked closely with Moammar Gadhafi's intelligence services in the rendition of terror suspects to Libya for interrogation, according to documents seen Saturday by the AP, co-operation that could spark tensions between Washington and Libya's new rulers.

Documents show close ties between CIA, Gadhafi regime - Globe and Mail - Sept 3, 2011.

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"America played an important role, helping Gadhafi maintain his security apparatus," said an unnamed rebel source, "But that's okay..."

[M-A Lagrange]

Gaddafi 'Tracked Heading For Libyan Border' Colonel Muammar Gaddafi was last tracked heading for Libya's southern border, the man leading the hunt for the deposed leader has said.
Miltary official Hisham Buhagiar said reports indicated Col Gaddafi may have been in the region of the southern village of Ghwat three days ago.
The village is some 190 miles north of the border with Niger.

"He's out of Bani Walid I think. The last tracks, he was in the Ghwat area. People saw the cars going in that direction," Mr Buhagiar said.

"We have it from many sources that he's trying to go further south, towards Chad or Niger."
The news follows reports that some of Col Gaddafi's top officials, including security chief Mansour Daw, were riding in a convoy of vehicles which has already entered Niger.
Col Gaddafi's spokesman Moussa Ibrahim insisted the ousted dictator remained in Libya and that he and his sons were ready to fight to the death.
US officials also said they doubted Col Gaddafi had crossed the border yet and urged Niger to detain any senior officials from the regime.
US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta has said that, while Col Gaddafi is still on the run, there is no clue of his whereabouts.
Meanwhile anti-Gaddafi troops appear poised to take one of the colonel's last remaining strongholds by force after talks with tribal elders broke down.
The National Transitional Council (NTC) had been in negotiations for a peaceful handover of Bani Walid, currently occupied by armed Gaddafi loyalists.
But Sky's Emma Hurd said tribesmen had apparently come under fire from pro-Gaddafi fighters as they returned from the talks with a message of peace.

http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16064185

According to French newpapers, Burkina Faso denied they welcomed or might welcome Mr Gaddafi.
French news papers also report a convoy of approximately 10 vehicles with gold, $ and euros crossing the Niger border yesterday. NCT is claiming this is stolen reserves from Syrte central bank.

"Tard hier soir, dix véhicules chargés d'or, d'euros et de dollars sont passés au Niger via Djoufra avec l'aide de touaregs d'un tribu nigérienne", a déclaré Fathi Badja, président de la commission pour les affaires politiques et internationales du CNT. Ces richesses auraient été volées à l'agence de la Banque centrale libyenne à Syrte, selon le CNT.

http://fr.news.yahoo.com/un-convoi-l...161030932.html
Late yesterday evening, 10 vehicules loaded with gold, euros and dollars passed to Niger through Djoufra with nigerian touareg tribe support, reported Fathi Badja, the president of NCT political and international affairs commission. According to NCT, those values might have been stolen from Libyan central bank in Syrte.


The hunt is still on.