LifeNews: Cars Found, Suspects Videotaped in Nemtsov Murder but Investi Committee Rejectshttp://lifenews.ru/news/150535Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
Investigation committee knows the killers?????
European social media picked up this specific CCTV camera in Moscow:
This Kremlin surveillance camera was pointing directly at the spot when Boris #Nemtsov was murdered last night: pic.twitter.com/RouhA2aBkn
NOTICE: pointed directly at the murder scene--what will the Russian “transparency” show us in the coming days????
REMEMBER: those that have been in Moscow and around the Kremlin--there is not a inch of space not covered by MIA and FSB CCTV cameras.
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LifeNews: Cars Found, Suspects Videotaped in Nemtsov Murder but Investi Committee Rejectshttp://lifenews.ru/news/150535
Investigation committee knows the killers?????
Last edited by davidbfpo; 02-28-2015 at 05:06 PM.
Comment from a leading Black Wolf Russian biker gang member:
Read it carefully as it reflects the true fear of Maidan.
Zaldostanov, one of Antimaidan founders: 'Fear of death is the only way to stop Maidan in Rissia'
via @Roman_Yhnovec pic.twitter.com/F4ucj30Rhc
John Schindler @20committee
I know 1sthand of cases when FSB "tails" stopped crimes against surveillance targets. In this case, at best, FSB chose to let Nemtsov die
Nemtsov had been under 24/7 human & tech FSB surveillance for many years. Nothing happened to him that the Kremlin didn't allow to happen.
John Schindler @20committee
Unless you, too, have experienced 24/7 FSB surveillance on their own turf, spare us the lectures: Kremlin knew everything Nemtsov did.
A film by #Nemtsov dissecting #Kremlin reports and proving that #Russia is behind #MH17
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/02/2...emlin-sources/ … pic.twitter.com/AlANQVmTau
Boris Nemtsov was to disclose Russia's part in Ukraine conflict, Ukraine's president said Feb 28, @interfaxua reports http://social.stratfor.com/4LH
Chubais take on #Nemtsov assassination points at building tension over propaganda in Russia http://www.novayagazeta.ru/news/1692011.html … pic.twitter.com/AV1TH8xPKr
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One of the bravest FRONT-ON confrontations with Putin on #Nemtsov in the Russian media...from Moskovski Komsomoletshttp://www.mk.ru/politics/2015/02/28...atory-kto.html …
AWAITING the translation as social media has asked for it.
Telegraph News ✔ @TelegraphNews
Boris #Nemtsov murder: 'Putin now governs mostly through terror and propaganda'http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/p...ropaganda.html … pic.twitter.com/WJZZqxZdFo
Carl Bildt ✔ @carlbildt Former Swedish FM
Murder of Boris Nemtsov is the Donbass war coming to Moscow. Read what he wrote on the aggression against Ukraine. http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-e...ne-362884.html
Light the match and stand back. Poster from last weekend of Nemtsov as "Organizer of Maidan," pic.twitter.com/DbOyYxi0wN
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Russian disinformation hard at work:
Ben Judah @b_judah
There is a buzzing rumour that Nemtsov may have been involved in some sort of Khodorkovsky gambit in the Kremlin
Incredible. Kremlin blog army continues character assassination even after death >> https://twitter.com/FangornTree/stat...05056854077440 … pic.twitter.com/TDQ5dnqOPi
Here's another one for your troll collection:
https://twitter.com/LandDestroyer/st...53096465178625 …
KREMLIN TROLL ALERT (KTA) /RT @NukeRusich
Key talking points given to Kremlin blog army: "Liberals invite people to funeral march as if it is a party. Don't go out tomorrow
Putin's spokesman Peskov says Nemtsov was hardly more prominent than an average citizen http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2677648
After almost a whole day of radio silence, Kremlin's key trolls got new instructions. Check them out https://twitter.com/christogrozev/lists/kremlinbots …
Ben Judah @b_judah
Nemtsov first warned Russia was turning into a Putin dictatorship ten years ago.
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Is Russia falling off the rails in slow motion??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DWntEfIykw … #Putin crowd: #Nemtsov="sacrificial lamb" to #Maidan-ize #Russia; was w/ 23yo from #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/vsIIOvyiUb
Carl Bildt ✔ @carlbildt
This unfortunately is Russia today: Pravda says 90% probability that CIA killed "their Russian agent Nemtsov". http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/col...ov_murdered-0/
#Nemtsov was bugged, tailed, filmed, monitored by the secret police -FSB. Murder was ordered or tolerated by Kremlin. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/p...ropaganda.html …
Leonid Ragozin @leonidragozin
Just count the smear campaigns against Nemtsov on the government TV - so much for his "unimportance"
mirhond--care to comment--Moscow TV is now at five different stories smearing your "political weight was about zero" person as you yourself stated.Boris Nemtsov, opposition politician asassinated near Kremlin, four bullets on the brige, Columbia-stile.
I, personally, have no idea who would benefit from this, Nemtsov was well-known, but his political weight was about zero. Although, opposition finally got a sacrificiall lamb.
Leonid Ragozin @leonidragozin
Just count the smear campaigns against Nemtsov on the government TV - so much for his "unimportance"
Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 02-28-2015 at 06:29 PM.
After pretty much every prominent victim, beside the many not-so-famous ones , the similar stories seems to spread speedily. Not the man or his friends in power which have been subject to revelations, criticism and attacks for their abuses and riches are behind the murders because they 'don't pose a threat', 'are not worth the risk', 'just cause a media uproar' and so forth. Beside spitting on the corpses of the victim this does not take into account an old logic of regimes* and criminal organizations like the mafia. By killing seemingly irrationally nobody can feel save even if one is indeed objectively currently not a big threat. Exactly for those reasons it is one way to spread fear far and wide.
Of course that this strategy is not limited to killings as it employs a wide field of threats, violence and instruments but killings like in Russia can be the irreplaceable spikes to make it overall work with high level of fear. Of course a regime might get it's calculations from time to time wrong and face a far bigger problem after one of those acts but that is just part of the cruel human game that mistakes get made. Then again it is hardly worth to mention such things on the Small War Council given things like surprise, causing confusion, keeping the enemy on his toes/off balance/etc and so forth...
*China operates in a similar way against media outlets for example when it comes to corruption stories. A hundred papers might run the same story but one can get singled out for no superficial reasons apart from the inner logic to make everyone else uneasy or fearful. To some extent it is the fear of the unknown, that one can not calculate the reaction of the power. The (mostly predictable) rule of law is indeed for good reasons one cornerstone of a free and democratic society....
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... "We need officers capable of following systematically the path of logical argument to its conclusion, with disciplined intellect, strong in character and nerve to execute what the intellect dictates"
General Ludwig Beck (1880-1944);
Speech at the Kriegsakademie, 1935
As the day nears its end, Kremlin troll army & their re-tweeters tweeted "sacrificial victim" 6,500 times, "provocation + Nemtsov" 15,000x.
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Michael McFaul ✔ @McFaul
For English readers of this feed, you would be shocked to see how many Russians have tweeted that the "USA killed Nemtsov." Tragic.
#Donbas thug #Zakharchenko accuses #Chechnya thug #Kadyrov of murdering #Nemtsov...
50% of Zakharchenko's soldiers are Chechens
Russian federal TV channel releases video surveillance footage of Nemtsov's murder (video)
http://www.unian.info/world/1050001-...der-video.html … pic.twitter.com/Xka2b49AC1
#Nemtsov's final words: "We are drowning" in Putin's corruption, war & "Goebbels-like propaganda."@newsweek http://www.newsweek.com/final-interv...nemtsov-310392
#Russia has highest % of police globally, 4,000 men guard the Kremlin, but for 12min no police came to aid #Nemtsov. pic.twitter.com/yqdvsFPSWd
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Russian Communists preparing for demo today "against liberals on the streets and in govt": pic.twitter.com/eHb6b7sLRACatherineFitzpatrick @catfitz
I agree with @iponomarev that "audience" for murder is liberal intelligentisa in Russia and West, not "Russian public" to say "back off".
#Nemtsov-companion & #murder-scene #witness captured and kept hidden by #FSB (#Bortnikov): Ms. #Durytska of #Ukrainehttps://translate.google.com/transla...%2F&edit-text= …
VICE News ✔ @vicenews
"Everyone needs to come to the conclusion that the Kremlin with its propaganda has crossed the line": http://bit.ly/1G422FQ
Meanwhile Moscow Times had no trouble publishing analysis that "climate of hate" is a valid opinion re Nemtsov murder http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/a...te/516716.html …
Knight: Any theory of Boris #Nemtsov murder that doesn't begin & end with Putin doesn't hold water. http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europ...murdered-video …
Great question—based on the massive Russia disinformation JUST why does western media tend to both indirectly support and or say nothing?
Garry Kasparov ✔ @Kasparov63
Was on BBC & they also invited Putin's spokesman Peskov. Why invite propagandists to spread more lies? Why treat them like normal people?
BLOG: Analyzing the CCTV footage that seems to have captured assassination of Boris #Nemtsov http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.co.uk/2...seemed-to.html … pic.twitter.com/IaeXrNnbX
GREAT OPEN SOURCE ANALYSIS WORK
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A short BBC report on how the murder is being reported and ends citing the head of RT:From the Twitter exchange to Russian TV:Stop making PR from bloodshed! What swine you are, on both sides. I'm speechless. You're no more than savages.Link:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31673512State-run channels devoted most of their bulletins to the story. Reports were respectful in tone, with comment from officials and MPs, and commemorative montages set to solemn music. The privately-owned pro-Kremlin rolling news channel LifeNews gave almost blanket coverage to the killing, but was tabloid in tone, concentrating on Mr Nemtsov's private life, such as his relationship with the young woman who was at his side when he died.
davidbfpo
Social media is summing up the current Nemtsov mourning march of silence in Moscow-one of the largest ever crowds in Moscow in literally years and not organized by Putin and company and not paid the 300 rubles per person to show up as was the recent Anti-Maidan march organized by the criminal biker gang Black Wolfs.
Came. THEY CAME, without orders and not for 300 rubles. Here is my real Russia. Proud" https://twitter.com/NEpytin/status
#Nemtsov marchers shout Russia without Putin, No to war, Russia will be free pic.twitter.com/6965oDYAom
Massive crowds, streaming live on @SvobodaRadio http://bit.ly/1CcIOfV pic.twitter.com/4Sm8ODbve0
4 bullets: Channel 1, NTV, RussiaToday, Russia24 #Nemtsov pic.twitter.com/39r9qTVZHE
Amazing pics coming out of Moscow rally in memory of Boris Nemtsov pic.twitter.com/YvihHNOTmE
Anna Duritskaya, with Nemtsov when killed, "under de facto house arrest" after giving evidence, can't go home to Kiev, lawyer tells @tvrain.
Today's Memorial March In Moscow May Be Largest Rally Since 2012 http://bit.ly/1zPvpVh
Organizers in #Moscow reported 70,000. Demonstrators at the funeral march of Boris #Nemtsov. #Russia pic.twitter.com/FQWgutQGuz
HUGE (via @svaboda) @meduza_en #Nemtsov pic.twitter.com/yFbfgIbwv9
And here comes the state propaganda after the massive crowds today:
#Russia TV just reminded us of REAL victim in #Nemtsov's murder:
#Putin, who now looks "bad" in eyes of evil West... pic.twitter.com/yQInvRB51M
@navalny had secret meeting w/ #Nemtsov,yet when he got home, reporter called asking what mtg was about. Krmln knew https://navalny.com/p/4154/
To remind: last interview of Boris #Nemtsov,hours before he was shot dead: http://empr.media/opinion/interviews...last-interview … |EMPR pic.twitter.com/oWvDwOMhR2
Current joke in Moscow:
Like all of the opposition, #Nemtsov was paid by @CIA & thus watched closely by the KGB. Who are so stupid they couldn't stop a US hit team.
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The key theme by Kremlin trolls is: "Protest march was a failure, too few people". Yep, seems so. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_BKjmiXIAADXuJ.jpg:large …
Carl Bildt ✔ @carlbildt
Seems around 50.000 people marched through this afternoon Moscow to honour the memory of Boris Nemtsov. Impressive. pic.twitter.com/TVtvlEJizK
Ben Judah @b_judah
With 50k people marching for Nemtsov that would make it one if the largest protests since 2012. They never reached much above 100k.
Top Russian propaganda machine and the French Neo Right
Sputnik ✔ @SputnikInt
#LePen is confident Russia will conduct fair probe into death of #Nemtsovhttp://bit.ly/18cBbbS pic.twitter.com/GcVGrnfy9D
Human Rights Watch ✔ @hrw
Russia doesn't have a good track record investigating the killings of Kremlin criticshttp://bit.ly/1AXGmXG #Nemtsov pic.twitter.com/DWAUncVqUF
Putin’s spokesperson throwing in everything that could have killed him including the kitchen sink.
Peskov on the #Nemtsov murder. He is clearly just throwing out any and every theory and hoping it stickshttps://ninajobe.wordpress.com/2015/03/01/pes
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We won't see this footage either:
Cameras on the #Moscow bridge where #Nemtsov was killed.
pic.twitter.com/2rM7m55lkB
Where is Poirot when we need him? Meduza with fine analysis of cctv. What's that snow plough doing? https://meduza.io/news/2015/02/28/tv...emtsova-kamery … (in Russian)
"My youth, my hopes, and the future of Russia: Nemtsov was a symbol of it all,” a linguistics teacher at the Nemtsov march today told me.
Theories about Possible Perpetrators of the Murder of Boris Nemtsov | The Interpreter http://bit.ly/1DGfBrB via @Interpreter_Mag
Saw multiple old pics on twitter claiming to be from today. It's so easy to avoid, use Chrome & do following steps: pic.twitter.com/K0ySHasnpO
Massive turnout in Moscow for opposition rally in honor of slain anti-Kremlin politician Nemtsov (via @EvgenyFeldman) pic.twitter.com/qvTAnzuA09
GREAT PHOTO!!
Boris Nemtsov was brusque, impatient, and rejected everything that Putin represents, by @Lucian_Kim http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._all_dt_tw_bot … via @slate
Bill Browder @Billbrowder
Boris Nemtsov fought for justice for Sergei Magnitsky. Now it is our duty for fight for justice for Boris Nemtsov pic.twitter.com/bp3Wvue0IO
Not that far-fetched. | Were Chechen Security Personnel Responsible For Nemtsov's Death? http://www.rferl.org/content/caucasu.../26875744.html …
Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 03-01-2015 at 05:12 PM.
That's pretty well explainable - Nemtsov was a member of The Family in 90's, but after Putin's succession he went astray, so even after death he commanded some respect from Yeltsin's cronies.
To Understand Outlaw, read Orwell, especially "Politics and English language" ^_^
In our time it is broadly true that political writing is bad writing. Where it is not true, it will generally be found that the writer is some kind of rebel, expressing his private opinions and not a ‘party line’. Orthodoxy, of whatever colour, seems to demand a lifeless, imitative style. The political dialects to be found in pamphlets, leading articles, manifestos, White papers and the speeches of undersecretaries do, of course, vary from party to party, but they are all alike in that one almost never finds in them a fresh, vivid, homemade turn of speech. When one watches some tired hack on the platform mechanically repeating the familiar phrases — bestial, atrocities, iron heel, bloodstained tyranny, free peoples of the world, stand shoulder to shoulder — one often has a curious feeling that one is not watching a live human being but some kind of dummy: a feeling which suddenly becomes stronger at moments when the light catches the speaker's spectacles and turns them into blank discs which seem to have no eyes behind them. And this is not altogether fanciful. A speaker who uses that kind of phraseology has gone some distance toward turning himself into a machine. The appropriate noises are coming out of his larynx, but his brain is not involved, as it would be if he were choosing his words for himself. If the speech he is making is one that he is accustomed to make over and over again, he may be almost unconscious of what he is saying, as one is when one utters the responses in church. And this reduced state of consciousness, if not indispensable, is at any rate favourable to political conformity.Hilarious!!"One the one hand, Russia must invade Ukraine because the Ukrainian state is repressive. (In fact, Ukraine is a democracy with free expression and is in every respect a freer country than Russia.)
Free speech Index, 2014
http://rsf.org/index2014/ru-index2014.php
Finland 1
USA 46
Ukraine 127
Russia 148
Reporters without borders: Summary of Attacks on Media
http://en.rsf.org/ukraine-summary-of...014,46265.html
and so forth18.02.2015 - Ukraine withdraws accreditation from reporters for Russian media
16.02.2015 - Journalist and blogger jailed on treason charges
10.02.2014 - Bill would jail those who “deny or defend” Russian aggression
03.01.2015 - Masked men attack TV station’s headquarters in Kiev
11.09.2014 - 35 Russian journalists banned from visiting Ukraine
09.09.2014 - 15 Russian TV stations formally banned
Last edited by mirhond; 03-01-2015 at 10:53 PM.
Haeresis est maxima opera maleficarum non credere.
so mirhond --let me get this straight--you are in effect stating for all see that the "freedom of speech and writing" is truly alive and well in the current Soviet Union sorry Russia???
come on mirhond even you do not believe that right?
let's see---the Russian FSB spent exactly TWO hours "investigating" a crime scene they then "washed away all forensics"---THEN they spent NINE hours tearing his apartment apart and taking all his computers--Seems that in the Soviet Union sorry Russia it is the victim that is investigated NOT the criminal---a totally new form of fighting criminal activity right???
LOOKING probably for the expose he was going to release on the Russian involvement in eastern Ukraine.
so mirhond---that rates as what in the Soviet Union sorry Russia---"freedom of speech and protection of investigative journalists"---really....?
PERFECT example of the great Soviet sorry Russian FSB investigative powers in the world's leading "freedom of speech and writing" nation.
check theses CCTVs located exactly at the scene of the execution--you cannot state "they were all not functioning" especially so close to the famous walls-
We won't see this footage either:
Cameras on the #Moscow bridge where #Nemtsov was killed.
pic.twitter.com/2rM7m55lkB
NOT a single photo or a video of the murderer or the execution team from this great famous investigative FSB team---strange is it not?????
one would think that in a open "freedom of speech" country you claim the SU sorry RU is--- the videos would be immediately released in what the SU sorry RU stated would be a "fair and transparent investigation into the execution". BUT I guess one could say "silence" is a form of "freedom of speech"?????
has not happened did it--well at least there is a reward----well so much for the so called SU sorry RU "freedom of speech"
but there has never been "freedom of speech" in the Soviet Union sorry Russia has it mirhond--but wait you are expressing it here at SWJ right?????
WAIT---found the "famous Russian freedom of speech" and it is called "propaganda"..........
The key theme by Kremlin trolls is: "Protest march was a failure, too few people". Yep, seems so. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_BKjmiXIAADXuJ.jpg:large …
BUT wait.......they cannot even count people at a demo-so "seeing freedom of speech" might be hard unless it hit them full in the face--strange???
hey mirhond---check this from the "land of freedom of speech called social media"---they were QUICKER than the FSB.....
Super enlarged part of #Nemtsov CCTV where follower can be seen disappearing after cleaning car passed. http://youtu.be/pUi9SIIYF4w
MORE GREAT examples of the "famous soviet sorry Russian "freedom of speech"
INFOGRAPHIC #Russian opposition members killed since #Putin rise to power. A long bloody trail. pic.twitter.com/vQTpMFUUce
Last edited by davidbfpo; 03-02-2015 at 11:59 AM.
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