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    Hackers from the group Anonymous have broadcast a private conference call between the FBI and Scotland Yard exposing details of an international cybercrime investigation, the FBI has confirmed.

    The FBI and Scotland Yard admitted that the security of the call had been breached.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...-scotland-yard
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    I made mention of this in the Haditha thread, but Anonymous is beginning to become a threat to national security.

    Am I just paranoid about the perception, versus a bona fide threat?

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    Default Cross-reference

    In Haditha thread, my post re: Anonymous and V for Vendetta.

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    Angry Bona fide threat, in my book

    Quote Originally Posted by jcustis View Post
    I made mention of this in the Haditha thread, but Anonymous is beginning to become a threat to national security.

    Am I just paranoid about the perception, versus a bona fide threat?
    Having been on the receiving end of AntiSec's very thorough and devastating hack over Christmas, and spending several weeks digging into the Anonymous/AntiSec activities (and still waiting for the other shoe to drop), the threat is real and growing.

    However, I perceive that there are some confusing dynamics in play that the media doesn't bother to clarify.

    AntiSec is a highly malicious offshoot from Anonymous. However, any 7th grade computer whiz who plays around with hacking can "become" Anonymous simply by claiming to be -- the nature of the beast being what it is. But the AntiSec subset is much more specialised, and is likely to be a very small clique. The attack on STRATFOR was a large departure from previous Anonymous DDoS and site defacing activities.

    The dude Sabu (#RealSabu) is tied to AntiSec, but from what I've seen the publicity 'ho "Anonymous spokesman" Barrett Brown is self-appointed and has no direct involvement with the highly destructive AntiSec activities. Anonymous is a nebulous and disorganised 'movement' -- not the monolithic 'group' that the press makes it out to be -- making a self-styled spokesman rather difficult to take seriously. The Twitter feeds for AntiSec and RealSabu display only dismissive disdain for Barrett Brown's "spokesman" activities.

    By the way, I'm not defending anyone...I detest them all, and happily use printed Guy Fawkes masks for targets at the range, often. But, as y'all know, the threat cannot be effectively addressed until it is accurately identified and pinned down.
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    Can we start killing these guys/gals now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett Patron View Post
    Can we start killing these guys/gals now?
    There's a so-called "irony" smiley .
    You can add it on top of a post (see above) or in text with ";" followed directly by a ")".

    I assume you forgot this, for otherwise I gotta say I'd disrespect you and your ethics totally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett Patron View Post
    Can we start killing these guys/gals now?
    If we can't arrest them, what makes you think that we can locate them to kill them? I doubt they're hiding out in Waziristan.

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    Default A dilemma

    We're in trouble on this one.

    Our agents inside the OAS can't pin him down, since not even the OAS knows who he is.

    Action Service can't destroy him; they don't know who to destroy.

    The gendarmes, all forty-eight thousand of them, can't pursue him; they don't know who to pursue.

    The police can't arrest him. How can they? They don't know who to arrest.

    Without a name, all other proposals are meaningless. The first task, then, is to find it. We get a name, we get a passport and a face. And with a face, we get an arrest. But to find his name, and to do it in secret, is a job of pure detective work.
    ...
    I don't think I've ever heard of a political killer in this country. It's not our style, is it?
    ...
    We can't find him. He's vanished, just disappeared off the face of the earth. I don't think we really ever had any idea what kind of a man you've been pursuing for the last two weeks.
    ...
    There's no question of Her Majesty's Government ever conceding the fact that this Jackal was an Englishman. So far as one can see, there was a period when an Englishman came under suspicion, but he has now been cleared. Certainly, the Jackal masqueraded as an Englishman, but he also masqueraded as a Dane and as a Frenchman. So there's no way of proving his identity at all.
    ...
    But if the Jackal wasn't Calthrop, then who the hell was he?
    LINK.

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    Default Dilemma and more

    Well, I agree with the “dilemma” word, but the dilemma is bigger than that. In this case, you first have a US Congressman criminalizing a legal combat action under the Laws of War with unsubstantiated allegations. He creates such a media frenzy, his political sound bits become a public perception which the senior leadership of the military responds to after they are won over by the perceptions. The military legal system sorts out all the truths and bad perceptions (to a degree). Now, instead of recognizing that a system worked we have enable criminals and cowards to legitimize themselves by hacking a legal defense team website. As one who has corresponded with the defense team, I am proud and flattered to see my name displayed and associated with the defense team on the hacker’s site. Mentioned in “dispatches” …I am honored.
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