China's official defence spending to rise by 11.2% in 2012
China's official defence spending will rise by 11.2% in 2012, pushing it above $100bn (£65bn) for the first time, the government has announced.
Beijing's defence budget has risen each year for two decades to become the world's second-biggest, behind the US.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-17249476
They can afford to increase their budget without borrowing moneyChina's official defence spending will rise by 11.2% in 2012, pushing it above $100bn (£65bn) for the first time, the government has announced.
Beijing's defence budget has risen each year for two decades to become the world's second-biggest, behind the US..
A tiny step exercise
A platoon level exercise involving infantry is hardly awesome. In fact IIRC there is a post on a similar level exercise between India and PRC, in China - now that was significant politically given their history of hostility.
Indonesia has had little international military co-operation for a long time, the only exception I am aware of is limited military engagement with Australia; there has been significant Australian Federal Police engagement with Indonesia for many years.
Not sure whether Indonesia contributes or has contributed to UN missions either, although I recollect a presence in Cambodia many years ago. Ah, just checked they currently have just under 2k committed (police & military) and mainly with UNIFIL.
If this tiny step develops, especially with naval exercises then I'd be impressed.
davidbfpo
Indonesia participates in a number of regional military exercises, and has participated in multinational Naval exercises with India. Indonesia is a nation to watch as it is an up and coming regional economic power that is making significant investments in modernizing its military (long overdue). As the world's largest Muslim majority nation its potential to be major regional actor in the next few years if their economy continues to expand has implications because it can demonstrate that a Muslim nation can succeed economically without huge reserves of oil (though Indonesia is an oil producing nation) and democratic government. In addition to their peacekeeping efforts in Lebanon they sent sent observers to the disputed Thailand-Cambodia border region. I believe they sent peace keepers to Sudan also. I don't think they're part of the multinational counter piracy task force off Somalia, but their Navy did resolve an incident there last year.
Ray, how do any of these quotes and links suggest that a small infantry exercise focused on insurgency is related to "containing China", or that any South/Southeast Asian military cooperation is caused by a US policy position?
Of course SE Asian nations, and India, are keeping a wary eye on China's military emergence. That's not because the US tells them to, it's because they're neighbors and naturally concerned. Not necessarily fearful, yet, but concerned. That does not mean, of course, that this specific exercise had anything to do with "containing China"... the nature of the exercise suggests that it didn't.
It's fairly obvious that countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam or the Philippines cannot compete with China in the acquisition or deployment of conventional military forces. That doesn't mean they have no options. I'd think they'd be well advised to look closely at the asymmetric naval model employed by the Iranians: focus on small, fast, missile-equipped patrol boats and land-based missiles. They wouldn't be able to defeat the Chinese, just as the Iranians can't defeat the US navy, but they could pose enough of a threat to commerce and to the straits of Malacca that to provide a real disincentive to conflict.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary”
H.L. Mencken
The Nations are not doing at the US bidding but definitely, like it or not, there is a convergence towards the US' strategic vision in Asia Pacific.
The commonality of interests, spurred by the sudden change from the Peaceful Rise philosophy of China to the current aggressive hegemonic posture, has encouraged the closing of ranks amongst the nations. These exercises, though small in size, is basically to establish the core groups, which will impart instructions back home. Therefore, though small in outward appearance is contributory to training the soldiers back home. There is where the importance of these interactivity lies.
Singapore, for instance, extensively uses Indian Armed Forces assets to keep themselves fighting trim.
Posted by Ray,
I like itThe Nations are not doing at the US bidding but definitely, like it or not, there is a convergence towards the US' strategic vision in Asia Pacific.
Agreed, but also think we're in a time where alliances are more likely to shift with changes in the wind. The regional states will adapt a hedging strategy to minimize the hegemonic influence of the regions three powers (U.S., China and India). This will force the regional powers to moderate their behavior and act in a way that is non-threatening if they want to maintain influence in the region. In the long run this may be good for all concerned. Unless the Chinese are stupid, and I suspect that is NOT the case, I think they'll be forced to moderate their behavior once they realize acting like the regional bully isn't working.The commonality of interests, spurred by the sudden change from the Peaceful Rise philosophy of China to the current aggressive hegemonic posture, has encouraged the closing of ranks amongst the nations.
Multinational exercises have implications well beyond the small scale engagement. There are diplomatic discussions and agreements between the countries that facilitate these exercises, and these excerises, even small in scale send a message to the international community. At the tactical level the knowledge gained is often valuable, and as you said the knowledge is further proliferated when the exercise participants return.These exercises, though small in size, is basically to establish the core groups, which will impart instructions back home.
Is it really "The US's strategic vision" or are a number of nations developing their own strategic visions that overlap in various ways... and not in others. Indonesian participation in a COIN exercise with India, for example, might be aimed largely at demonstrating independence from the US and Australia, the traditional military supporters. That may or may not be part of an American strategic vision.Originally Posted by Ray
"Aggressive hegemonic" would be an overstatement... it's not like they're emulating the US and sending troops into faraway countries. Still, a more assertive posture than before and one to which regional states will respond in their own ways, which will sometimes overlap. More a continuing round of pushing and shoving around the edges than desperate resistance to a hegemonic power.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary”
H.L. Mencken
Platoon exercise -v- ex-Defence Minister
An Indonesian former defence minister has commented, under the headline 'China’s Military Buildup No Cause for Concern: Juwono':Link:http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/news/...-juwono/502965Former Defense Minister Juwono Sudarsono says he believes China’s move to boost military spending by 11 percent this year won’t jeopardize East Asia’s stability as it merely represented an “annual ritual” reflecting “the tussle between the government and the military.”
Hat tip to Lowy Institute (Australia)
davidbfpo
China has a long way to go before they can emulate the US."Aggressive hegemonic" would be an overstatement... it's not like they're emulating the US and sending troops into faraway countries. Still, a more assertive posture than before and one to which regional states will respond in their own ways, which will sometimes overlap. More a continuing round of pushing and shoving around the edges than desperate resistance to a hegemonic power.
Indeed there will be pushing and shoving, but the nations are getting ready not to be pushed too far.
The manner in which Vietnam, an old enemy of the US, readily took the US help and conducted naval exercises with the US in the South China Sea, as also the manner in which Philippines took the US help and allowing the US troops to 'rotate' US troops being stationed in the Subic Bay base (from where they forced the US to quit) is indicative of the 'concerns' these nations have towards the Chinese moves.
What makes the Nations wary is that China has scant regards for what the world order feels. They do exactly what they want and that to many is scary!
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