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    Whenever there's talk about 'future tanks' keep in mind that it's likely only about Western future tank projects or even only about requirements.

    Meanwhile East and South Asia is mass-producing the classic MBT and (thinly armoured) IFV categories and judging by the numbers they define the future of tanks.

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    I really wondered how long it would take GM to put tracks on the Stryker and try to market it as a viable option for the GCV. I don't know this for a fact - total speculation.

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    yep, it's true. Here is a short news article on it.

    http://blog.thenewstribune.com/milit...-seen-at-jblm/

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    So it is now very roughly about 42 tons similar to the heavierst German Puma variant which of course has a "turret".

    At least the US has some scale to work with, which can't be said of the Italian efforts in this direction.
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    I wrote a comment here yesterday (deleted prior to submission).

    The short version is that I think BAe and the U.S.Army should be kept away from AFV development in general for the next decade. Give other institutions a chance.


    Oh, and I'd like to express my great relief that EADS does not merge with BAe.

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    I'm with Ken and many others here that the IFV or whatever you want to call it should be armored like a tank if it's fighting with tanks. keep the remote weapon station of at least a 50 caliber and and a useful troop load of 9+ and we just might have "weiner" here gents. I don't know if the entire vehicle was up armored or the added weight comes from the double-V hull and tracks. The other thing I like about this as a possible replacement for the M2 - cost (if it keeps our guys safe that is). The cost of the GCV pictured on this thread, but earlier posts was going to be between 9-11 million each - WTF! I would imagine this baby is gonna run 5-6 million. The more knowledeable here will know and can set me straight about its viability as a replacement for the M2.

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    A question for the more knowledgeable guys out there.

    It seems that quite a few here think that infantry organized to fight alongside MBTs need a carrier with MBT-like qualities, especially armor and mobility, minus the firepower. The Merkava - Namer combination has been named as a good example. Considering the low numbers of vehicles purchased, especially in Europe, and the advantages of a mostly shared vehicle does it make sense to go with a standard front engine configuration for new MBT projects?

    Thanks.
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