Nine children among 16 dead after US serviceman attacks villagers

**JMA** · 04-09-2012

Originally Posted by carl

It sounds like making excuses for people who do evil things. It sounds like that because that is what it is. KingJaja, most of the guys here know exactly what it sounds like to the rest of the world.

OK, so you understand but do you care?

**carl** · 04-09-2012

Originally Posted by JMA

OK, so you understand but do you care?

Of course. But you are going somewhere with that question. Where?

**JMA** · 04-14-2012

Originally Posted by carl

Of course. But you are going somewhere with that question. Where?

As per other discussions on this theme the prevailing opinion from USians seemed to have been that as the US was not going to change (or could not change) the rest of the world should just learn to live with it.

You agree?

**carl** · 04-14-2012

The glacial pace of US legal procedures probably won't change. I wish it would but no matter what we want, the case will drag on and on, though there are many in the US who wish it wouldn't.

The world should not get used to this. No need to refrain from bringing this up in every official and unofficial forum available, often. Politeness doesn't go that far.

Things aren't completely hopeless though. Nobody who defended Calley 40 and more years ago will admit that they did today. And when this case is finally resolved, I am guessing the nature of the facts will be such that nobody will defend this thing for its actions. Somebody else mentioned this but the defenders aren't really defending the thing, their apparent defense is only a political weapon to urge withdrawal from Afghanistan. As the case proceeds the two things, the actions of the killer and the political position will become harder and harder to reconcile so they won't try.

So in the end, that this was evil will be accepted by all. But the world just doesn't have to learn to live with it US slowness, though I don't know what exactly can be done about it. I don't know what the USians can do about it in the short term and many of us are as frustrated as the world.

**carl** · 06-05-2013

The prisoner Bales pled out and apparently avoided the death penalty.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...0,856566.story

I figured this would go on for years and am glad I was wrong.

Judging from a very brief excerpt of his testimony as quoted in the article (which may not be enough to judge anything by), this guy will make a good subject for the FBI agents who study psychopaths.